MrA said:

What do you think? there are certainly lots of similarities.

Yes! Beck is a huge fan of Prince.

And yes, Beck is a scientologist.

Yes, I thought of the same thing the first time I bought a Beck CD. I think he's been very influenced by Prince.

The only similarities between Prince and Beck is the fact that they are great synthesists of music. They love to mash things up but I think Beck is a bit more extreme with it. But if Beck wants to go on a complete musical change of direction, he would where Prince doesn't really.

I mean, stuff on N.E.W.S. could have been on The Love Symbol album or even on SOTT. Guero and Sea Change are two entirely different albums.

And a "white Prince"? It's sad that some people can only see skin colour when trying to make a point or distuguish one person from another.

rdhull said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

i thought the 90s prince was the white prince?

no, the 90's is where he went full black militant era

Milty said:

The only similarities between Prince and Beck is the fact that they are great synthesists of music. They love to mash things up but I think Beck is a bit more extreme with it. But if Beck wants to go on a complete musical change of direction, he would where Prince doesn't really.

I mean, stuff on N.E.W.S. could have been on The Love Symbol album or even on SOTT. Guero and Sea Change are two entirely different albums.

And a "white Prince"? It's sad that some people can only see skin colour when trying to make a point or distuguish one person from another.

Some good points here. However, I've always found a large part of Beck's material as being completeley phony. He is a great sythesist indeed, but he seems to be too much of a copy and paste artist for me. Two turntables and a microphone indeed. Although, Sea Change is great.

NeonCraxx said:

Beck who?

Jeff Beck I think.

Jagar said:

NeonCraxx said:

Beck who?

Jeff Beck I think.

White Prince?

yep, this has been discussed many times

many folks don't like the "white Prince" thing, the racial connotations...

I prefer to say that Beck was one of the few rock artists of the 90s that definitely used some of Prince's tricks of the 80s...

but of course, Beck also owes a lot of to Dylan and The Talking Heads...

Nah, he's not strange and interesting enough to be.

Beck is a musician-poet who transcends genres even as he re-invents them.

spacedolphin said:

Beck is a musician-poet who transcends genres even as he re-invents them.

...You talkin' about the same dude who sang about sex and handcuffs slipping from wrists?

Or about how he thinks he's a loser so someone should kill him?

All subject matter that's been covered before by other artists - and done better.

Just because he isn't considered super-mainstream, doesn't automatically make him GOOD, by default. There's plenty of spit being spat out on both sides of that fence.

The White-Kanye Goofy Shit Farmer.

MrA said:

What do you think? there are certainly lots of similarities.

No such thing..................

rdhull said:

MrA said:

Im intrigued

Prince has done several Sea Change songs peppered throughout his career. I Love You But Dont Trust You, Wherever You Go, SISIA, How Come You Dont Call Me, Wally, Comeback, Truth cd etc. His Sea Change material has been scattered and maybe not as a complete one set deal but thats probably due to Prince being a corporation where he has to have some of everything to keep the Prince machine (workers, staff etc) running. He has to kitchen sink it.vAnd yes its like you said, Beck never did a Purple Rain akin to Prince stating that U2 and them can't do Housequake material. You can argue that beck can do some out there material but not at the level Prince did his Housequakes or Computer Blues..Prince can Sea Change at the drop of a panty..errr hat rather.

He has even made Sea Change type material of songs for proper albums at the ready but has not relased them.

Overall, Prince has been Sea Chang-ing way before Beck ever got his little skateboard poplockin kid heart broke.

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How come you dont call me?? sea change is a dark brooding folk album I dont know how a sexy piano song like how come you dont call me would fit on that album but then its all subjective anyway.

No.

rdhull said:

Wally,

rialb said:

BobGeorge909 said:

Prince is like Willie nelson too....I mean they're both old and they're both musicians...they both sing too.

Well, they are both extremely prolific. Check out Willie's discography, since 1978 he has pretty much gone toe to toe with Prince as far as volume is concerned.

If you look closely at Wille's work, you see tons of released cover songs or original songs written by somebody else. Still, Nelson has written a ton of songs, but many of them sound alike. His best selling album, Stardust, is a covers album from the late 70's. I don't really like Willie or country for that matter, but Prince hardly ever records cover songs. (Like 4 or 5 officially released?) There are a few artists who write as much or more than Prince, but I doubt any of them even touch the quality of Prince's released or unreleased songs. Not even Prince. We all know there a ton of unreleased songs better than Jughead, Daddy Pop, Wedding Feast, Dear Mr Man, Life O The Party, etc....

i think a better question would be 'is prince the black david byrne'?

but that would make beck the white david byrne, with no way of knowing which david byrne david byrne actually is...gray beck, maybe?

Weird. I posted a similar thread a few years back. Beck used to sound like Prince, now he has kind of went away.

I tend to now think Andre 3000 is the new Prince, but he's darker than butterball Prince. lol

2freaky4church1 said:

I tend to now think Andre 3000 is the new Prince,

Nope. At the end of the day, 3 Stacks is just a rapper while Prince is a musical genius.

There ain't no white Prince. Someone mentioned David Byrne of Talking Heads, he's about the closest white guy i can think of.

peedub said:

i think a better question would be 'is prince the black david byrne'?

but that would make beck the white david byrne, with no way of knowing which david byrne david byrne actually is...gray beck, maybe?

If anything Prince was/is the black Mick Jagger (and vice versa)

Dren5 said:

spacedolphin said:

Beck is a musician-poet who transcends genres even as he re-invents them.

...You talkin' about the same dude who sang about sex and handcuffs slipping from wrists?

Or about how he thinks he's a loser so someone should kill him?

All subject matter that's been covered before by other artists - and done better.

Just because he isn't considered super-mainstream, doesn't automatically make him GOOD, by default. There's plenty of spit being spat out on both sides of that fence.

oh, come on, that's like saying "isn't prince the guy who used to sing about 'shakin that ass' and

wanting to be your girlfriend".

is beck mainstream? is he underground? what difference does it make. people seem to enjoy his

music, a lot. his albums sell well and his peers (and most of the critics) seem to think he's one of

the best and most interesting artists around.

heck, if you'd ask prince, i'm sure he would say beck was a cool dude since he writes and records

most of his records by himself, plays many instruments, produces and arranges for others and is

able to put on one heck of a live show. (real music from real musicians blablabla).

but beyond all that. why do people always say "just because he's..... doesn't make him good" if

someone likes an artist or mentions comparisons to prince?

what do you guys think, that we sit around all day, reading magazines and just listen to the band

that they say is 'the most indi and ultra underground'? lol. people listen to music because they

like what they hear. you don't buy every cd by someone just because they're "hot" or mainstream

or not mainstream. that would be silly. who does that?

[sarcastic]No, Prince is clearly the black Beck[/sarcastic]

Stupid Amazon.com . I'll never forget that. And I like Beck, but didn't want to for a few minutes.

rebecka black is the male white prince!

Beck is an amazing musician... that being said. Beck is Beck the white Beck & Prince is Prince... the black Prince

I hate when people have to compare this to that, Beck s unique, Prince is unique.

Plus i really love both guys, but if you compare them of course since this a fansite people will say Prince & will say bad thing's about Beck. And i anyone has only heard Loser i HIGHLY reccomend checking out his work, listen to it you may enjoy it

Beck's 'Midnite Vultures' Lp is a very Princey album. I would have been chuffed if Prince released something of that calibre nowadays!

Beck takes chances, Prince does not.