JoeTyler said:

Azz said:

And yet you dislike several more tallented female artists....

do you know me? who are you? my sister? lol you'd be surprised if you only knew the big number of female artists that I like, many of whom are often called "CRAP" and "NO TALENT WHORES". You just don't know what the hell you're talking about. And, as far as 04-12 popular music goes, I don't think there's a more "talented" woman than Adele, that's the point...

and also, there's a big difference between "disliking" and "not truly digging the music"

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You posted in a thread that you disliked several female vocalists, such as Mariah Carey.

Why are you posting shit on the internet, if you don't expect people to read some of it.

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I'm still at the lines 'You could have had this all...'

^^

I noticed that at the Grammys too. Like she's just the baddest bitch.

Girl bye. And I like Adele btw.

JoeTyler said:

Terrib3Towel said:

Yes, I do find that post extremely..odd.

You call Whitney Houston "dull and boring" yet Adele's music is just as slow as Whitney's is/was. Hell, maybe even slower. Explain yourself.

if you guys are TRULY trying to force me into a pointless Adele vs Whitney fams war, I gotta say that yes, besides the hits, Whitney music was dull, and yes, Adele (and many other female artists) is like 1000000 better than Whitney, who was a singer. Adele is more than a singer...face it

funny how this thread has basically become a crazy war with MJ/Adele/Norah/Whitney/anti-current music/pro-current music/pro-organic music/anti-slow music/anti-female artists fams all shooting in every direction

this thread is a tragedy

It's not even like that. I just find it odd that's all. I mean Adele stands there and sings just like Whitney did.

But I respect your opinion, and I won't curse you out because I disagree with you. That's childish.

mancabdriver said:

Cloudbuster said:

mjscarousal said:

Are you honestly implying her album is on the SAME level as Thriller

For one thing, Adeles music isnt pop and it doesnt appeal to everybody as well as ALL demographics that you are suggesting. Michael and MAJOR crossover success world wide with Thriller and like alot have said it was more that JUST the album with why it was so popular and made a big impact

She's certainly appealing to all ages though.

My younger adopted sister who is 7 years old likes her music as does my mum who is 66.

It's happening.

She is but it is not the same as Thriller... Thriller was not only huge because of the album, the videos, performances made it major to. I like Adele I am not knocking her but people puting on the same level as Thriller are

Timmy84 said:

I'm gonna say this and then I'm bouncing but... (and this will probably piss some of y'all off but I don't give a fuck )

It's funny how we all go about "the sad state of the music industry" and "how no one is selling"...

BUT as soon as an artist starts to sell a crazy amount of numbers, we all question how someone could enjoy their music, how someone could buy it when in their opinion "there's better acts" and all that bullcrap...

And if that person happens to topple over someone's favorite artist in a certain COUNTRY we think we could bitch and ruin on someone else's parade because someone got taken down.

But yet we still bitch about the music "industry" and its "failure" to produce decent sales.

Seriously, y'all are funny.

Yea there is nothing wrong with that but going by this logic if Adele were to outsell The Beatles, Elvis, etc that means that she is making a big impact on music when that is not true.

Im happy for Adele and every time she breaks a record I applaud her... I rather her break MJs record than lets say someone like Beyonce or Rihanna because she makes good music.

HOWEVER

I think its delusional to insist that her album has had the same impact as Thriller. Thriller was not only big because of the singles but also because of the MUSIC VIDEOS and PERFORMANCES. ALSO, Thriller was more diverse musical and while 21 does appeal to alot Thriller appealed way more. It was a turning point that CHANGED POP CULTURE musically and music videos.

I like 21 (even though it is not the greatest thing ever invented but its refreshing to hear something different than generic shit) I also like Adele but it is not on the same level of impact and saying that fact doesnt mean people are complainging or not happy for her... but I be damn if I sit here and allow delusional people to insist 21 i has had the same cultural impact as Thriller JUST because it has sold more in the UK, so fuckin what?

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mjscarousal said:

Cloudbuster said:

She's certainly appealing to all ages though.

My younger adopted sister who is 7 years old likes her music as does my mum who is 66.

It's happening.

She is but it is not the same as Thriller... Thriller was not only huge because of the album, the videos, performances made it major to. I like Adele I am not knocking her but people puting on the same level as Thriller are

I'm with you.

The UK music press just love ripping on Mike anyway (maybe they're all P. Orgers) and have done since the Bad era. So obviously they're having a ball right now. However, if she can sell 20+ million of five successive studio albums like Mike did then there really will be something to talk about.

But that's about as likely as Prince making a truly great album again.

Cloudbuster said:

mjscarousal said:

She is but it is not the same as Thriller... Thriller was not only huge because of the album, the videos, performances made it major to. I like Adele I am not knocking her but people puting on the same level as Thriller are

I'm with you.

The UK music press just love ripping on Mike anyway (maybe they're all P. Orgers) and have done since the Bad era. So obviously they're having a ball right now. However, if she can sell 20+ million of five successive studio albums like Mike did then there really will be something to talk about.

But that's about as likely as Prince making a truly great album again.

Pretty much

But making a post like the one you just made means your bashing Adele to some people here

Thats not bashing thats... REALITY

mjscarousal said:

Pretty much

But making a post like the one you just made means your bashing Adele to some people here

Thats not bashing thats... REALITY

Yeah, well after posting here for 10 years I've realised that orgers and reality don't mix very well. Fuck 'em.

Cloudbuster said:

mjscarousal said:

Pretty much

But making a post like the one you just made means your bashing Adele to some people here

Thats not bashing thats... REALITY

Yeah, well after posting here for 10 years I've realised that orgers and reality don't mix very well. Fuck 'em.

I LOVE your motto...

Cloudbuster said:

mjscarousal said:

Pretty much

But making a post like the one you just made means your bashing Adele to some people here

Thats not bashing thats... REALITY

Yeah, well after posting here for 10 years I've realised that orgers and reality don't mix very well. Fuck 'em.

You can say that again.

mjscarousal said:

I LOVE your motto...

JoeTyler said:

NDRU said:

I haven't read the whole thread, but has anyone mentioned that the next one up on the list is fucking Oasis?!

so? lol

People say they don't get Adele's appeal, well I never got Oasis' appeal.

And I know they are huge worldwide, but in the US they are more like one or two hit wonders. So it's a little weird every time I am reminded of how huge they are.

ADELE SHOULD RE-DO THE THRILLER VIDEO TO A TEE. WHAT DO YOU THINK?

THRILLER, KILLER, HERE TONIIIGHT! CAUSE THIS IS THRILLA! SHE'D NAIL THAT PART..AND THE SPINS.

musicjunky318 said:

ADELE SHOULD RE-DO THE THRILLER VIDEO TO A TEE. WHAT DO YOU THINK?

Yeah, right. Adele should do...Adele.

musicjunky318 said:

THRILLER, KILLER, HERE TONIIIGHT! CAUSE THIS IS THRILLA! SHE'D NAIL THAT PART..AND THE SPINS.

musicjunky318 said:

Cloudbuster said:

Use the MJ sticky.

reported thread

Why? This is about Adele.

I posted a thread on MJ and Whitney on Monday, but the mods took it down

Cloudbuster said:

JoeTyler said:

Anyone who strongly dislikes Adele is basically a misogynist

and I mean it

Or they could just not like her music.

Thank you, even though that original comment is so nonsensical it's comical.

tritoncin said:

I'm going to ask a question because I'm ignorant on this matter:

When "21" sales are compared to any other album, is it only the number of units what matters?

Because Thriller has been in the market for over... 30 years? and people have bought cassets, vinyls, cd's and the virtual stuff now, and I guess (as a music fan), everytime a copy is/was worn out people used to go and buy another one.

What I mean is that we couldn't compare sales of these 2 albums if each unit is all what counts.

I don't know how many copies of 21 will have been sold by 2041...

BTW, Until the 90's people used to buy music, now they just get it for free (I mean,illegally)

so if 21 had been released 30 years ago we would be talking about.... how many units?

Just asking

I just hope 21 doesn't do to Adele what Thrilles did to MJ.

Peace.

I was thinking about this a little and while I'm nowhere near the fandom of most of the MJ fans on here, I've owned at least 6 copies of Thriller through the years (twice on cassette, at least 3 times on cd and the double vinyl of the 25th anniversary). It's significant that passing Thrillers sales should be mentioned precisely because Thriller is such a landmark album for so many people. It takes no shine off Thriller whatsoever. Jeez.

Three of those albums that have sold more copies in the UK have had the opportunity for several significant chart runs. ABBA Gold was big when it came out in '92 and has always sold solid, then got a massive boost when the stage show Mamma Mia got released, then got another boost when the movie Mamma Mia got released. Sgt Peppers has had several chart runs through the years with the initial cd release and then the reissues. Queens Greatest Hits got a boost from Live Aid then Freddies passing.

Oasis Morning Glory and the band were HUGE mid '90s in the U.K. Alot of that WAS hype and tabloid shenanigans and bad behaviour repeated ad nauseum but they most definitely were huge.

You have to give Adele some credit. At least she has been able to get across while still being humble, not having to die, not photowhoring every opportunity and I'm certain without any intention of trying to be the biggest, greatest, best-selling, most impactful anything.

She's not Katy Perry and it doesn't seem she was desperate for hits. But I also think the death of Amy Winehouse may have drawn people to her sound too while they were buying her music. At least it's not someone else, but 500 is nothing, I'm sure Thriller will start selling again as well when Bad 25 is happening.

I fail to see how Thriller can be compared to Adele's latest hit in anyway, shape, or form. Unless people are crunching cold numbers, which also can't really be compared to sales then and now.

Be-yawn some kind of sales talley--there IS NO COMPARISON AT ALL! Et fini!

purplethunder3121 said:

if you are boring you would pick adele over MJ, plain n simple

jasmine69 said:

if you are boring you would pick adele over MJ, plain n simple

LOL you are one shit stirrer little fucker aren't you?

I like you.

ThruTheEyesOfWonder said:

^ I'm tearin' up your fan card...

RIGHT NOW!

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Hilarious

whatsgoingon said:

purplethunder3121 said:

I fail to see how Thriller can be compared to Adele's latest hit in anyway, shape, or form. Unless people are crunching cold numbers, which also can't really be compared to sales then and now.

Be-yawn some kind of sales talley--there IS NO COMPARISON AT ALL! Et fini!

I must be missing something, I still do not understand the commotion abour Adel surpassing Thriller in the UK. I can understand if she surpasses his record globally, then I can really see the big deal. I mean wil they have this commotion if she outsells Abba Gold album, which has also sold more than thRILLER in the UK.? [Edited 5/5/12 1:20am] [Edited 5/5/12 1:23am]

Yeah, it is the UK after all. And the other artists are British/European artists. It's an achievement that Thriller is the only american album in the top 5.

And Adele has sold more than every Beatles album except Sgt Pepper. It doesn't mean she is better, just that she had a really big hit. I don't think it means people will forget the Beatles and Michael Jackson.

I don't see kids walking around in Adele jackets

Cinny said: