I think all the ''real music'' bullshit and how music was better back in the day... is annoying. Of course you can have your option, but some act like it's a fact. It's just taste.
I love music. I listen to all kinds. Sometimes I find something new that I like (it can be old or new music I haven't heard before)

I love old & new music. When I love/like artists/songs/albums... I like or love it. That's it. There is no limit for me. When I enjoy something, I enjoy it. I think some people(music snobs) need to stop act so serious and dramatic about it... tbh. Music is entertainment. There are no rules.

[Edited 4/29/12 14:13pm]

mjscarousal said:

I never really agreed with the term music snob which generally is labeled to people who dont like POP or current music. I dont agree with it because it exactly contradicts its own meaning. Although my opinions are pretty non popular ones I like to think of myself as open minded to. I do listen to POP but selectively. My main music is the oldies specifically Soul/R&B. All music lovers have a right to listen to what they want and everyone has certain preferences. Not everyone prefers to listen to music with depth or deep meaning. Some just like the beat or like a song that they can move to.Others rather sit down and think about the message or hidden symbols behind the lyrics or appreciate the musicianship of a musician. At the end of the day its all music but yes I am one of those people who distinguishes music from REAL music.. sorry but there is a difference And while people are free to listen to what they like I think its good for people to have an understanding of the difference between accessible dance music versus music that exactly pushes the boundaries creatively and the artists dont necessarily have to be musicians per se to do this.

If someone prefers to just listen to pop music and NOTHING else what makes them any less of a music snob than someone who wants to listen to indie artists all day?

Arent they both music snobs according to the definition? Or its just indie fans who are snobs because they rather listen to music with a little more depth?

I just dont get that hyprocritisy because its kinda the same principle on both ends.

I just think its good to be open minded when it comes to music because the sky is the limit with it thats when the snob aspect comes into play but I dont think someone is a music snob if they have listened to enough of the music to forumulate their opinion on why they dont like it.

The problem with music stans sometimes is while everyone does have an opinion some stans like to downplay other artists just to make their favorite artist better. Honestly, its childish. You like who you like and they like who they like but of course people takes things personally when it comes to their favorite artist and I know I do.

Personally, I love all kinds of music (old and new) and listen to different genres. Growing up as a kid, I exactly ONLY listened to 60s,70s and 80s music but that wasnt because that was the music I just wanted to listen to... that was the music my father mostly played when I was growing up (Which is why I have a great deal of appreciation, passion and respect for it now). Then once I got to highschool I started to open more to 90s and current artists and now in college still continuing this

My ONLY issue as far as debates and forum stan wars are is when people want to past off their opinions as facts when it isnt. Also, when people rank medicore artists higher than what they exactly are in a serious music conversation (ugh I hate that). Its one thing to joke around but like when were seriously trying analyze music or artists talents, catalogues, songwriting abilities etc... I think those debates should have more mature rational input and fandoms should be put behind or to the side for those debates.

I dont see anything wrong with expressing why you prefer an artist over another or why you choose to listen to a certain kind of music over another of course done respectfully and maturely. That doesnt necessarily make you a music snob your just expressing your opinion

What IS snobbish to me personally is when people formulate opinions about artists and they havent even listen to ANY of their music to come to their conclusion about their music or when people dislike an artist because of what they choose to do in their personal life. I just think thats snobbish and ignorant honestly...

[Edited 4/28/12 13:01pm]

Well i totally agree, especially on the last part about not knowing or even listening to the artist you pass opinions on. As a friend told me once, opinions are just like A**holes, everyone's got one. So i tend to really not listen to opinions on anything that i value, i only look to what is going to further my opinions. I mean im not going to ask someone who hates Ryan Adams, "Hey what do you think of the new Ryan Adams" no, im going to ask someone who has all the albums and is an expert on him, some say you dont get honest answers by fans because "we like everything" well that is just pure 100% bullshit, if you hate something you are always going to hate it and not like anything so im just not going to value or ask your opinion it makes no sense. A fan will be more honest than a non fan anyday, so me being a giant a-ha fan, i have my opinions on their work because i have all the albums and all the solo work, and when someone is gonna dismiss them not having heard anything but one song, shit im gonna call them out and defend an opinion. theres nothing snobbish in that. I dont love every single thing they have done, just like any other artist that i collect all their work.

But like u said Music is Music, but YES i do feel that times saw more talented artists than other times, sorry, that i dont think is being snobbish, its being realistic, i lived through the 70's 80's 90's 00's and whatever we got now, so i can base my opinion on that, sure there is good and bad and we all have our versions, but i cant compare the works of a Stevie Wonder catalog, to a contemporary rb artist now, but granted there is good stuff out there, but the focus isnt there like it was on the craft, sorry but its just not, and again that is not snobbish.

I mean i love Norah Jones, and some think she is boring, ok, fair, but alot base it one record or one song or a few, but whatever, i mean i find most dance music repetitive and boring, but i know some dig it and like to dance to it etc...

But opinions are gonna be in every walk of life, from sports to acting and movies and whats funny and whos hot and whos not, whos straight and whos gay etc....everyone is going to toss something out there, and now with the internet and facebook and twitter, everyone feels they are a critic and KNOWS, and i think thats where things have fallen off, sometimes people are just allowed to voice too much.

I tend to spin music around like this, the music talent has taken a nose dive within the last 12 years, there is simply no respect for the craft anymore.

You can't name a strong female or male vocalist, that wasn't from the the pre-2000 era, or group or band within the last decade that can put out some decent work.....

How is it songs from 50 years ago still play as fresh as the day they came out? Quality and creativity....

"Reasons" by Earth Wind and Fire, "Sunshine of My Life" by Stevie, "Drown In My Own Tears", "Take 5" by Dave Brubeck will be around far longer than anything Nikki Garbag, Snorah Jones, Lady Blah Blah, or Lame Songz could do....

Music simply isn't clever or doesn't try to be, it simply caters to the lowest common factor (ie Jersey Shore, Kim Kardashian crowd)....

So yes, there is real music (actual songs, composed and written by true musicians) and "noise" made by clowns with fruity loops and auto-tune nonsense!!!

Chris Brown back in the 70s? He'd get laughed off stage....

gdiminished said:

I tend to spin music around like this, the music talent has taken a nose dive within the last 12 years, there is simply no respect for the craft anymore.

You can't name a strong female or male vocalist, that wasn't from the the pre-2000 era, or group or band within the last decade that can put out some decent work.....

How is it songs from 50 years ago still play as fresh as the day they came out? Quality and creativity....

"Reasons" by Earth Wind and Fire, "Sunshine of My Life" by Stevie, "Drown In My Own Tears", "Take 5" by Dave Brubeck will be around far longer than anything Nikki Garbag, Snorah Jones, Lady Blah Blah, or Lame Songz could do....

Music simply isn't clever or doesn't try to be, it simply caters to the lowest common factor (ie Jersey Shore, Kim Kardashian crowd)....

So yes, there is real music (actual songs, composed and written by true musicians) and "noise" made by clowns with fruity loops and auto-tune nonsense!!!

Chris Brown back in the 70s? He'd get laughed off stage....

BEST POST EVER!

gdiminished said:

I tend to spin music around like this, the music talent has taken a nose dive within the last 12 years, there is simply no respect for the craft anymore.

You can't name a strong female or male vocalist, that wasn't from the the pre-2000 era, or group or band within the last decade that can put out some decent work.....

How is it songs from 50 years ago still play as fresh as the day they came out? Quality and creativity....

"Reasons" by Earth Wind and Fire, "Sunshine of My Life" by Stevie, "Drown In My Own Tears", "Take 5" by Dave Brubeck will be around far longer than anything Nikki Garbag, Snorah Jones, Lady Blah Blah, or Lame Songz could do....

Music simply isn't clever or doesn't try to be, it simply caters to the lowest common factor (ie Jersey Shore, Kim Kardashian crowd)....

So yes, there is real music (actual songs, composed and written by true musicians) and "noise" made by clowns with fruity loops and auto-tune nonsense!!!

Chris Brown back in the 70s? He'd get laughed off stage....

gdiminished said:

I tend to spin music around like this, the music talent has taken a nose dive within the last 12 years, there is simply no respect for the craft anymore.

You can't name a strong female or male vocalist, that wasn't from the the pre-2000 era, or group or band within the last decade that can put out some decent work.....

How is it songs from 50 years ago still play as fresh as the day they came out? Quality and creativity....

"Reasons" by Earth Wind and Fire, "Sunshine of My Life" by Stevie, "Drown In My Own Tears", "Take 5" by Dave Brubeck will be around far longer than anything Nikki Garbag, Snorah Jones, Lady Blah Blah, or Lame Songz could do....

Music simply isn't clever or doesn't try to be, it simply caters to the lowest common factor (ie Jersey Shore, Kim Kardashian crowd)....

So yes, there is real music (actual songs, composed and written by true musicians) and "noise" made by clowns with fruity loops and auto-tune nonsense!!!

Chris Brown back in the 70s? He'd get laughed off stage....

I used to play instruments when I was yonger (violin and viola up to finishing college, and also guitar), so i used to be kinda snobbish when it came to musical genre's that I considered lazy (rap, dance etc). I think that's probably a common form of music snobbery.

It's only thru dating people who had vastly different tastes in music than I did that I began to expand my musical horizons. I got tired of fighting over what got played on the radio and attempted to open my heart to crappy music. Now I can listen to just about anything genre wise as long as its not complete trash.

My friends used to call me a "radio nazi" because I refused to listen to shitty music other people were playing in their cars. I felt my insides, my brain, and my SOUL was being assaulted.

gdiminished said:

I tend to spin music around like this, the music talent has taken a nose dive within the last 12 years, there is simply no respect for the craft anymore.

You can't name a strong female or male vocalist, that wasn't from the the pre-2000 era, or group or band within the last decade that can put out some decent work.....

How is it songs from 50 years ago still play as fresh as the day they came out? Quality and creativity....

"Reasons" by Earth Wind and Fire, "Sunshine of My Life" by Stevie, "Drown In My Own Tears", "Take 5" by Dave Brubeck will be around far longer than anything Nikki Garbag, Snorah Jones, Lady Blah Blah, or Lame Songz could do....

Music simply isn't clever or doesn't try to be, it simply caters to the lowest common factor (ie Jersey Shore, Kim Kardashian crowd)....

So yes, there is real music (actual songs, composed and written by true musicians) and "noise" made by clowns with fruity loops and auto-tune nonsense!!!

Chris Brown back in the 70s? He'd get laughed off stage....

I don't like the modern-day pussy acts you mentioned but eh lol

I'm glad that this topc was brought up. I guess in a sense that at one time I was a music snob, dissing things that I did not like and knocking folks for not listening to "real music." I had to check myself big time and now I find myself not being so critical. I have mellowed out tremendously and everyone is entitled to like and dislike and I am cool with that. If you like and you dig it, that's not my place to knock someone for their tastes. I'm really glad that I came to my senses with that.

thesoulbrother said:

I'm glad that this topc was brought up. I guess in a sense that at one time I was a music snob, dissing things that I did not like and knocking folks for not listening to "real music." I had to check myself big time and now I find myself not being so critical. I have mellowed out tremendously and everyone is entitled to like and dislike and I am cool with that. If you like and you dig it, that's not my place to knock someone for their tastes. I'm really glad that I came to my senses with that.

Yeah if someone like a song I don't like it's all good. I never publicly dismiss anyone but behind the computer I be like "why you like this pussy shit?" Now I'm not bothered.

Timmy84 said:

thesoulbrother said:

I'm glad that this topc was brought up. I guess in a sense that at one time I was a music snob, dissing things that I did not like and knocking folks for not listening to "real music." I had to check myself big time and now I find myself not being so critical. I have mellowed out tremendously and everyone is entitled to like and dislike and I am cool with that. If you like and you dig it, that's not my place to knock someone for their tastes. I'm really glad that I came to my senses with that.

Yeah if someone like a song I don't like it's all good. I never publicly dismiss anyone but behind the computer I be like "why you like this pussy shit?" Now I'm not bothered.

I had to chill with that. Not to mention, I know how I feel when someone disses something that I like To each his own and after all, it's entertainment.

thesoulbrother said:

Timmy84 said:

Yeah if someone like a song I don't like it's all good. I never publicly dismiss anyone but behind the computer I be like "why you like this pussy shit?" Now I'm not bothered.

I had to chill with that. Not to mention, I know how I feel when someone disses something that I like To each his own and after all, it's entertainment.

That say's it all right there

thesoulbrother said:

Timmy84 said:

Yeah if someone like a song I don't like it's all good. I never publicly dismiss anyone but behind the computer I be like "why you like this pussy shit?" Now I'm not bothered.

I had to chill with that. Not to mention, I know how I feel when someone disses something that I like To each his own and after all, it's entertainment.

Right.

Guilty!

Ya'll a bunch of liars.