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Reply #30 posted 04/20/12 12:04pm

SoulAlive

mancabdriver said:

Forget Madonna's age - the song has no place in the top 10 let alone #1. If she released 'open your heart' today and it wasn't getting anywhere on the charts - then it could be suggested her age is a contributory factor to it not being a hit.

Oh come on....here in America,a 53-year old artist ain't gonna get played on the radio lol In recent years,Madonna has released great singles like "Jump","Get Together" and "Miles Away" and these songs were ignored.Is there really something wrong with these songs,or did radio refuse to play 'em because of her age? hmmm Ageism is a real issue for her.

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Reply #31 posted 04/20/12 1:54pm

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SoulAlive said:

mancabdriver said:

Forget Madonna's age - the song has no place in the top 10 let alone #1. If she released 'open your heart' today and it wasn't getting anywhere on the charts - then it could be suggested her age is a contributory factor to it not being a hit.

Oh come on....here in America,a 53-year old artist ain't gonna get played on the radio lol In recent years,Madonna has released great singles like "Jump","Get Together" and "Miles Away" and these songs were ignored.Is there really something wrong with these songs,or did radio refuse to play 'em because of her age? hmmm Ageism is a real issue for her.

It was a top ten hit for christ sakes! That's good enough.

The songs you mentioned made little impact in charts across the world - yet it followed one of her biggest hits of all time which has no problem getting airplay - perhaps people weren' feeling them like you. If age was the sole reason (I accept it is an issue ) why Madge didn't hit #1 with singles from COTDF then why did 'Hung up' perform so well across world?

Is it Madonna's god given right that everything she releases should hit the #1 spot?

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Reply #32 posted 04/20/12 1:59pm

alphastreet

MidniteMagnet said:

alphastreet said:

I love her, but the CD is weak, I haven`t played it in a week and don`t miss it though there are good songs on there too. It`s probably my least favourite of hers.

I hate to say it, but I agree too. There's something missing and I can't figure it out. Maybe if they kept it at a concise 13 tracks or something it would flow better. I don't think it's bad...it's just kinda generic. Addicted is still my fav.

I feel like she put out the album cause she's expected to and it's her primary occupation. I haven't seen W.E. yet but now I feel like directing, fashion and I guess touring are her main priorities, not pressure to make good music, and I can honestly say some of her best music came out in the 00's, I loved Hard Candy too. I only like about half the songs. I also don't know why some reviews are calling it her best since Ray of Light, it sounds nothing like that album and she has done much better since. Confessions was her strongest album in the 00's, and American Life her most diverse along with Music, and Hard Candy, fun.

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Reply #33 posted 04/20/12 2:05pm

asg

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asg said:

The 90% is pretty much standard for the industry i am sure even prince gets 90%.Alot of the superstars get 90% but smaller act does varies alot. But with album sales so horrible the album isnt going to sell alot

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Edit.

Misread.

[Edited 4/19/12 23:25pm]

Still, I'd be very surprised if 90% is the norm for big name touring artists.

Are you in the industry?

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No i have nothing to do with the industry but i read it in some article when the musicology tour was going on. but madonna is getting a better deal then 90% she got the album added in too

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Reply #34 posted 04/20/12 2:08pm

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go2theMax said:

The queen must be loving that throne right now!!

Sources tell PerezHilton.com EXCLUSIVELY that Madonna‘s upcoming tour has sold over $250 million in ADVANCE ticket sales!!! Wowza!!

And get ready, Madgestic Kingdom, because sources also tell us there are MANY new dates in the works!!!!

If you live in South America, she’s gonna be spending a lot more time with you than you think!! And if you’re an Aussie lad or lass, keep your fingers crossed all of these negotiations go well, because she could be giving you some extra’ luv too!!

Hmm… we bet those VIP packages are really helping boost the sales! This tour is EASILY going to be beat her Sticky & Sweet tour. Easily.

We know we can’t wait to see this MADGIC!!! It’s going to be EPIC!!!

Source : Perez Hilton

Someone tell me why peice of shit perez is famous

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Reply #35 posted 04/20/12 3:14pm

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asg said:

go2theMax said:

The queen must be loving that throne right now!!

Sources tell PerezHilton.com EXCLUSIVELY that Madonna‘s upcoming tour has sold over $250 million in ADVANCE ticket sales!!! Wowza!!

And get ready, Madgestic Kingdom, because sources also tell us there are MANY new dates in the works!!!!

If you live in South America, she’s gonna be spending a lot more time with you than you think!! And if you’re an Aussie lad or lass, keep your fingers crossed all of these negotiations go well, because she could be giving you some extra’ luv too!!

Hmm… we bet those VIP packages are really helping boost the sales! This tour is EASILY going to be beat her Sticky & Sweet tour. Easily.

We know we can’t wait to see this MADGIC!!! It’s going to be EPIC!!!

Source : Perez Hilton

Someone tell me why peice of shit perez is famous

I don't like him either...I found this on other website...anyways...did u get the numbers? so much for not selling tickets right? biggrin

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Reply #36 posted 04/20/12 3:28pm

KCOOLMUZIQ

I guess copying Prince doesn't work for everybody huh. But she looks great.Live Nation never set out for big sells anyway. MDNA was just a promotional tool for her tour which is where the real money is nowadays for older artist.. Madonna is not hurting . She got her number#1 out of it. Now for the real money..

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eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #37 posted 04/20/12 3:39pm

SoulAlive

http://www.billboard...006819752.story
Madonna's 2012 Tour 'On Track' To Be Among 'Top 10 of All Time': Live Nation's Arthur Fogel
April 19, 2012 | By Ray Waddell, Nashville

Ongoing chatter that the Madonna tour, and by extension her multi-rights deal with Live Nation, are underperforming is "baseless," according to sales figures provided by tour producer Arthur Fogel, chairman of Live Nation Global Touring.

The precipitous drop of MDNA in its second week, while certainly not something an artist would want (though the nature of the beast when pricing strategies are geared toward impressive first-week sales), actually has little to do with the performance of Live Nation's 10-year, $120 million multi-rights deal with Madonna. The days of tours supporting records are long gone; for some time now, touring drives record sales, not the reverse, and the Madonna touring business is more than solid.

Madonna Announces 2012 World Tour Dates -- Her Biggest Tour Yet

As for the multi-rights deal, while MDNA is the first album under the 360, the upcoming trek is not the first tour. That would be "Sticky and Sweet" of 2008-2009, which grossed $408 million, according to Billboard Boxscore, the third-highest gross all-time and the highest ever notched by a solo artist. Merchandising is also a component of this tour and in Madonna's case is a significant revenue producer. Finally, given that the entire 360 deal is, at its core, performance-based and assuredly tour-driven in its concept, Madonna is delivering.

Madonna's Deal With Live Nation-Interscope Worth $40 Million

According to Fogel -- the guy who would know -- these are the facts: 76 Madonna shows at arenas and stadiums are on sale in North America and Europe combined. More than 1.4 million tickets have been sold, banking about $214 million for an average in the $2.7 million per show in a mix of stadiums and arenas. And the tour doesn't even begin until May 29 in Tel Aviv, first hitting America in Philadelphia Aug. 28.

Billboard Power 100: Arthur Fogel

Fogel's not sure what to make of the detractors. "This tour is completely on track to end up in the top 10 tours of all time, especially considering we haven't put South America or Australia on sale," he tells Billboard.biz. "To say this tour is not performing is so off base I don't even know what to say. When this tour is said and done, combined with 'Sticky and Sweet,' you're talking $750 million in gross ticket sales. That sounds pretty impressive to me."

If tickets are still available for certain shows, that by no means spells disaster. "One of the things some people don't get is, I don't necessarily want to be sold out at this point; I keep trying to find tickets to sell," says Fogel. "Every day our people are trying to fine-tune the site lines and production kills. That's my job. It's great when you can say 'sold out,' but right now I want to keep finding tickets to sell. That's the game."

Is Madonna Behind Live Nation's Stock Surge?

European dates, which are mostly in stadiums, have come under particular scrutiny. Fogel says the $214 million gross banked so far is spread "pretty evenly" between North America and Europe, and there are 43 shows on sale in North America versus 33 in Europe. "You can do the math," Fogel says, reeling off sales figures. "46,000 in Istanbul, 44,000 in Milan, 39,000 in Florence. We sold out two arenas in Barcelona, two in Berlin, two in Amsterdam, we sold 42,000 in Edinburgh, 40,000 in Helsinki, 51,000 in Paris. If that's trouble, give me more."

Fogel concedes Europe didn't blow up the way North America did, but cites buying patterns for stadium general admission tickets in Europe, and the huge promotional boost of the Super Bowl performance in America as key factors in that disparity.

"She's at the top of her game and she ain't goin' away," he concludes.

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Reply #38 posted 04/20/12 3:47pm

SoulAlive

^^ Like I said earlier,record sales aren't that important for Madonna.She has proven that she doesn't necessarily need a big-selling album in order to have a hugely successful tour.

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