NeonCraxx said:

I'm really getting into Pink Floyd, I think they're fucking geniuses. I've already heard The Wall and The Dark Side of The Moon. I was thinking about Wish You Were Here but not too sure. Help me out.

Wish You Were Here is a good 1 2 get. I got in2 Floyd real late, and I felt like it was like the aftermath of DSOTM. Like the sun comin up the next day lol.

wish you were here - definately as it's the best floyd album

then get animals - this is a rocker album, it's after WYWH and before the wall

basically floyd were on a run from DSOTM, WYWH, animals, the wall

after that you can either go forwards onto the final cut, the last of the roger waters floyd albums, which is more of a roger waters solo album, then the 2 roger waters free albums which are more like david gilmour albums, which is a momentary laps of reason and the division bell. more floyd by number really. personally i'd say the roger waters solo albums the pro's and cons of hitchiking and radio kaos would be the next albums to buy, and then david gilmours first solo album and his third solo album aren't bad either. the second suffers a bit from 80s over production. although radio KAOS is as produced as dire straights brothers in arms, but it sounds great and has a sotry running through it

if you go backwards from DSOTM, checkout meddle first then atom heart mother. these are the closest to DSOTM and after floyd that you will get. earlier floyd was a bit different, so if you can stomach that, then you may as well start at the first album and fill in the gaps going forwards. the soundstracks to more and la valle obscured by clouds are maybe hard to swallow as is rogers first solo album the body. the solo albums by nick mason and rick wright are for hardcore fans only. rogers amused to death isn't bad either, but cia aira or however you spell it is an opera in french and even i've only played it once, and i'm a huge fan

the wall movie is due out on bluray at some point, but floyd take forever to release stuff. the live movie pompie is cool too, you should get the dvd cheap, but don't hold out on a bluray as there's a rights issue that needs to be resolved before the band take forever to remaster it. they don't own the rights to the movie. the other movies they did soundtracks too like zabriskie point are best described as weird as fuck hippy shit that makes no fucking sense to no-one but themselves

NeonCraxx said:

I'm really getting into Pink Floyd, I think they're fucking geniuses. I've already heard The Wall and The Dark Side of The Moon. I was thinking about Wish You Were Here but not too sure. Help me out.

Wish You Were Here - a brilliant album. I think you will like it.
My personal rating albums from Pink Floyd

Pink Floyd:
1. The Wall
2. Wish You Were Here
3. The Dark Side of the Moon
4. The Division Bell
5. A Momentary Lapse of Reason
6. Music from the Film More
7. Atom Heart Mother
8. Meddle
9. The Piper at the Gates of Dawn
10. Animals
11. The Final Cut
12. Ummagumma
13. A Saucerful of Secrets
14. Obscured by Clouds

I'm so glad you liked Pink Floyd, I'm a big fan, they are incredible.

Well, if you wanna get into Pink Gloyd, I recommend those four albums which are considered the best (by many critics and "best of" lists)... and I agree (i listed them in order of preference):

1- Dark Side Of The Moon

2- Wish You Were Here

3- The Wall

4- Meddle

Ýesterday i saw the 'classic albums' series

and the episode was about 'Dark Side Of The Moon'

I always thought their music was far too spaced out and trippy but

now i'm really interested in checking out their music

Dewrede said:

Ýesterday i saw the 'classic albums' series

and the episode was about 'Dark Side Of The Moon'

I always thought their music was far too spaced out and trippy but

now i'm really interested in checking out their music

it's only really the first few albums that are trippy. basically the first 2 are psychedelic albums. syd barrett was the driver of the psychedelic stuff but left during the making of the second album when dave gilmour joined. more is a soundtrack and is the weakest and patchiest of the lot. it has some interesting moments, but i think only about 1 proper song. ummagumma is a double album that has 1 live album and 1 album where each of the 4 members has an attempt at creating the worst solo track they can manage. the live album section captures just a little of what floyd were about in concert as they would usually jam and experiment long tracks, but it's the only official representation of that live early period. there are much better bootlegs

atom heart mother is a much more mature album and is the start of what was to come with DSOTM etc. it has one single instrumental track with an orchestra that takes the whole second side of the album. it's quite different from post DSOTM floyd so i'd get the later stuff first. meddle matures just a little more and it also has a single long track that takes up a whole side of the record, called echoes, which is a sign of what's to come with DSOTM and WYWH and is a decent track. the rest of the album isn't bad either

obscured by clouds is another soundtrack that's patchy like more and only has about 1 actual song on it. personally if that wasn't released or it came out before AHM then you would have a decent run of albums from AHM onwards

once that's out the way then DSOTM is the most accessible album, and it's a great one too, but many fans will still claim wish you were here as the best. floyd changed a lot after DSOTM. the success brought them a new audience, and instead of sitting quitely through songs and politely clapping at the end, they got drunk and whooped and cheered through songs, and even signing along. and thus animals was a reaction to that. played originally during the 1974 winter tour, 3 years before it was released, before even WYWH was released, it's a much rockier album, with snarling political lyrics. by the time they played that album during the 1977 tour, some of the band were so alienated with the audience that roger once snapped and spat at a fan during a show

and that sparked of his writing both the wall and the pro's and cons of hitchhiking. the band choose his demo of the wall to record to make into a rock opera like tommy. roger took his other demo as his second solo album

the wall was a very personal album to roger and caused upset in the band, causing keyboard player rick wright to leave the band for a period, and wasn't an official member during the live all tour, but a paid hand. but he was the only one to make money from the extravagant production as the rest of the band lost money putting it on

the final cut was originally intended as the soundtrack to the wall movie, with the alternate versions of the wall songs rerecorded and remixed for the movie, and 2 tracks that weren't included in the original album. in the end it became a different album altogether, and was more of a roger waters solo album, and certainly sounds like one, even though the rest of the band play on it. they left roger to make the album and come in and record their parts. drummer nick mason left the band for a period and doesn't play on the whole album. then roger announced the end of the band, which was a surprise to the rest of the band... the pro's and cons of hitchiking was released as a solo album and sounds similar to the final cut, but with eric clapton replacing gilmour's guitar playing. not bad for a replacement guitarist. pro's is another story telling concept album and i'd say it had the best clapton playing he's ever recorded. i'd suggest picking up pro's before the pre DSOTM floyd. radio kaos was more drum machine orientated FM radio rock and tells another story for rogers next solo album, and i think it's far better than either of the two post roger floyd albums that are closer to david gilmour albums. the first gilmour solo album was released not long after animals and has a similar rock sound. again i'd suggest that before pre DSOTM floyd

if you like the first two albums then checkout the syd barret solo albums which have the same twee lyrical style, but the guy was seriously affected by taking too much acid. he was in a far worse state that pete docherty ever was

i think if you want to start with floyd, start with DSOTM and work your way to the wall in order, then choose the rest depending on what sounds best from my suggestions. think of starting with prince from purple rain to lovesexy then working backwards from 1999, then filling in the remaining gaps. it's perhaps a similar trip but prince's earlier work was closer to his later work than floyd was. the first 2 albums are as much a different floyd as the peter green fleetwood mac is to the band that recorded rumours

Piper at the gates of dawn
Saucerful of Secrets
More
Ummagumma
Atom Heart Mother
Meddle
Obscured by Clouds
Dark Side of the Moon
Wish you Were Here
Animals
The Wall
The Final Cut
Momentary Lapse of Reason
The Division Bell

If i was in your position i'd probably go for these three next:

-Wish You Were Here

-Meddle

-Division Bell

But music's a real personal thing, another man's crap is another man's treasure, so go for what YOU like the sound of.

NeonCraxx said:

I just ordered With You Were Here on Amazon. Thanks, guys!

Did you get the 2 disc experience edition?, i was thinking of picking that one up.

Toofunkyinhere said:

NeonCraxx said:

I just ordered With You Were Here on Amazon. Thanks, guys!

Did you get the 2 disc experience edition?, i was thinking of picking that one up.

the experience edition is cool as the second disc has the other half of the gig from london 74. the DSOTM reissue has the live DSOTM performance (which was broadcast on FM radio at the time), plus a whole alternate early mix of the album and a few other live early versions of tracks depending on the version you get. the WYWH has the rest of that show which has shine on you crazy diamond and 2 early versions of the 4 songs that form animals from 1977. plus it has 2 great alternate studio versions of wish you were here (with the stephanie grapelli violin that wasn't used in the album version, apart from a few seconds as the track fades into wind noises), and have a cigar which has roger waters and david gilmour singing as a duet (the released version has roy harper on lead vocals as neither roger or dave were happy with either the takes of them singing seperately or as a duet)

the wall reissue though is fucking amazing when it comes to outtakes. you get snippets of rogers first rough home demos then a full series of studio demos, plus extra demos. and this is interesting to fans as it wasn't just a clean version of the full demo studio take of the album circulating by fans. the only downside to the wall is the inclusion of the live album (which is great), instead of a dvd of one of the live shows or the movie. but the movie is being remixed in 5.1 for bluray. i'm not sure if we will see a video of the original wall live, but there are pro shot bootlegs of a london and NYC gig, plus a video of them rehearsing at earls court london

it's just a shame there appear to be no plans to give animals the same treatment. from what the band have said it sounds like a boxset of early material may be the next stage. there is a pile of unlreleased stuff from that era

Dewrede said:

Ýesterday i saw the 'classic albums' series

and the episode was about 'Dark Side Of The Moon'

I always thought their music was far too spaced out and trippy but

now i'm really interested in checking out their music

Man, I welcomed spaced out and trippy. Guess at the time I started listenin 2 Floyd I needed some music that blew my mind like Jimi and P-Funk did.

unique said:

Dewrede said:

Ýesterday i saw the 'classic albums' series

and the episode was about 'Dark Side Of The Moon'

I always thought their music was far too spaced out and trippy but

now i'm really interested in checking out their music

it's only really the first few albums that are trippy. basically the first 2 are psychedelic albums. syd barrett was the driver of the psychedelic stuff but left during the making of the second album when dave gilmour joined. more is a soundtrack and is the weakest and patchiest of the lot. it has some interesting moments, but i think only about 1 proper song. ummagumma is a double album that has 1 live album and 1 album where each of the 4 members has an attempt at creating the worst solo track they can manage. the live album section captures just a little of what floyd were about in concert as they would usually jam and experiment long tracks, but it's the only official representation of that live early period. there are much better bootlegs

atom heart mother is a much more mature album and is the start of what was to come with DSOTM etc. it has one single instrumental track with an orchestra that takes the whole second side of the album. it's quite different from post DSOTM floyd so i'd get the later stuff first. meddle matures just a little more and it also has a single long track that takes up a whole side of the record, called echoes, which is a sign of what's to come with DSOTM and WYWH and is a decent track. the rest of the album isn't bad either

obscured by clouds is another soundtrack that's patchy like more and only has about 1 actual song on it. personally if that wasn't released or it came out before AHM then you would have a decent run of albums from AHM onwards

once that's out the way then DSOTM is the most accessible album, and it's a great one too, but many fans will still claim wish you were here as the best. floyd changed a lot after DSOTM. the success brought them a new audience, and instead of sitting quitely through songs and politely clapping at the end, they got drunk and whooped and cheered through songs, and even signing along. and thus animals was a reaction to that. played originally during the 1974 winter tour, 3 years before it was released, before even WYWH was released, it's a much rockier album, with snarling political lyrics. by the time they played that album during the 1977 tour, some of the band were so alienated with the audience that roger once snapped and spat at a fan during a show

and that sparked of his writing both the wall and the pro's and cons of hitchhiking. the band choose his demo of the wall to record to make into a rock opera like tommy. roger took his other demo as his second solo album

the wall was a very personal album to roger and caused upset in the band, causing keyboard player rick wright to leave the band for a period, and wasn't an official member during the live all tour, but a paid hand. but he was the only one to make money from the extravagant production as the rest of the band lost money putting it on

the final cut was originally intended as the soundtrack to the wall movie, with the alternate versions of the wall songs rerecorded and remixed for the movie, and 2 tracks that weren't included in the original album. in the end it became a different album altogether, and was more of a roger waters solo album, and certainly sounds like one, even though the rest of the band play on it. they left roger to make the album and come in and record their parts. drummer nick mason left the band for a period and doesn't play on the whole album. then roger announced the end of the band, which was a surprise to the rest of the band... the pro's and cons of hitchiking was released as a solo album and sounds similar to the final cut, but with eric clapton replacing gilmour's guitar playing. not bad for a replacement guitarist. pro's is another story telling concept album and i'd say it had the best clapton playing he's ever recorded. i'd suggest picking up pro's before the pre DSOTM floyd. radio kaos was more drum machine orientated FM radio rock and tells another story for rogers next solo album, and i think it's far better than either of the two post roger floyd albums that are closer to david gilmour albums. the first gilmour solo album was released not long after animals and has a similar rock sound. again i'd suggest that before pre DSOTM floyd

if you like the first two albums then checkout the syd barret solo albums which have the same twee lyrical style, but the guy was seriously affected by taking too much acid. he was in a far worse state that pete docherty ever was

i think if you want to start with floyd, start with DSOTM and work your way to the wall in order, then choose the rest depending on what sounds best from my suggestions. think of starting with prince from purple rain to lovesexy then working backwards from 1999, then filling in the remaining gaps. it's perhaps a similar trip but prince's earlier work was closer to his later work than floyd was. the first 2 albums are as much a different floyd as the peter green fleetwood mac is to the band that recorded rumours

Piper at the gates of dawn
Saucerful of Secrets
More
Ummagumma
Atom Heart Mother
Meddle
Obscured by Clouds
Dark Side of the Moon
Wish you Were Here
Animals
The Wall
The Final Cut
Momentary Lapse of Reason
The Division Bell

thanks for this informative post , man

Dewrede said:

Ýesterday i saw the 'classic albums' series

and the episode was about 'Dark Side Of The Moon'

I always thought their music was far too spaced out and trippy but

now i'm really interested in checking out their music

I saw that too. Where they were performing in the desert, I think?

Pink Floyd gets a bad rap because they are so associated with stoner college kids. But their songs are really strong. You have to do a little work to get to them sometimes, but they are there.

My favorite albums of theirs:

The Wall

Dark Side

Wish You Were Here

Meddle

Animals

The early stuff is so different, I have not gotten into it, but I am always considering a trip into Syd land.

NDRU said:

My favorite albums of theirs:

The Wall

Dark Side

Wish You Were Here

Meddle

Animals

The early stuff is so different, I have not gotten into it, but I am always considering a trip into Syd land.

syd was only really on the first albumj and one track on the second album. the two psychedelic albums. the syd solo stuff was a bit more accoutic guitar and twee hippy lyrics. a bit like the less commercial marc bolan stuff. it's not bad stuff but not to everyones taste. very different from the DSOTM and onwards floyd. maybe a little like accoustic hendrix stuff but more strummed guitar than any exceptional playing, although gilmour does play on the albums and produces them. but he plays stuff like drums, not his usual guitar solos

that new The Wall expanded release is epic/an epic win

Not a big fan of the idea of having one very long song and a couple of short songs to make it a full 30 minute record. Sounds like an EP.

Good songs though. Welcome to the machine was trippy as fuck, the video was cool too.

NeonCraxx said:

Not a big fan of the idea of having one very long song and a couple of short songs to make it a full 30 minute record. Sounds like an EP.

Good songs though. Welcome to the machine was trippy as fuck, the video was cool too.

no, it's over 44 minutes long. you have 26 full minutes of shine on you crazy diamond, which is in 9 parts. 1 to 5 on side one and 6 to 9 on side two. it's just a great track. and wish you were here is one of the best floyd songs ever, in tight competition with comfortably numb

the compilation "a collection of great dance songs" (which has no dance songs on it) has a special edit of parts 1,2, 4 and 7, combinging all the verses together like the band would play live. that version lasts just over 10 and a half minutes

the alternate versions of wish you were here and have a vigar were brilliant to hear after so many years, likewise finally getting to hear the 5.1 mix that was originally to be released in 2005 for the 30th anniversary. i've had the quad mix for many years and a good quality dvda bootleg of it was around for a few years but it was nice to have an official digital release as that's a great mix too. there was an absolutely perfect dvda bootleg of the quad mix of DSOTM too. i have the original quad vinly from 1973, nearly 40 years old

I'm a big fan of Animals. I probably listen to that more than any other Pink Floyd record.

Wow, I've heard animals and it was my least favorite Pink Floyd album i've heard so far. It sounds like Wish You Were Here part two, to be honest. The only memorable part of the album was the ending of Sheep which lasted twenty seconds. Quite boring for my taste.

On the other hand, I've then taken a listen to The Final Cut, which I really liked. There are some problems that I had with the album. I don't like how there are too many ballads, and a lot of the melodies sound simular until it gets to a point where you're like "Okay, We get it!" Last negative point, you shouldn't break up the same song into two parts unless you have a switch up in the mix. Prince's "Into The Light/I Will" is a fine example of how it should be done. POSITIVES: There are tracks that I adore on here, "Post War Dream" "When The Tigers Broke Free" "The Gunner's Dream" "Paranoid Eyes" "Not Now John", and the final track "Two Suns In The Sunset".

Dispite my negitive views on The Final Cut, Roger Waters went out with a bang with this one.

He's my favorite Pink floyd member.

And I can say that I appreciate the Wish You Were Here album a little more.

NDRU said:

My favorite albums of theirs:

The Wall

Dark Side

Wish You Were Here

Meddle

Animals

The early stuff is so different, I have not gotten into it, but I am always considering a trip into Syd land.

DO IT! I like Floyd's whole career but Piper is by far my favorite album of theirs. Just don't expect it to work the same way. It's more like the Magical Mystery Tour Bus was strapped to a rocket.

If Piper truly sounds anything like The Beatles's "Magical Mystery Tour" it'll be the next Pink Floyd album I'll buy.

NeonCraxx said:

Wow, I've heard animals and it was my least favorite Pink Floyd album i've heard so far. It sounds like Wish You Were Here part two, to be honest. The only memorable part of the album was the ending of Sheep which lasted twenty seconds. Quite boring for my taste.

On the other hand, I've then taken a listen to The Final Cut, which I really liked. There are some problems that I had with the album. I don't like how there are too many ballads, and a lot of the melodies sound simular until it gets to a point where you're like "Okay, We get it!" Last negative point, you shouldn't break up the same song into two parts unless you have a switch up in the mix. Prince's "Into The Light/I Will" is a fine example of how it should be done. POSITIVES: There are tracks that I adore on here, "Post War Dream" "When The Tigers Broke Free" "The Gunner's Dream" "Paranoid Eyes" "Not Now John", and the final track "Two Suns In The Sunset".

Dispite my negitive views on The Final Cut, Roger Waters went out with a bang with this one.

He's my favorite Pink floyd member.

animals is nothing like wish you were here. it's far more rockier. a lot more raw guitars

the final cut has no ballads. have a read of the lyrics

unique said:

NeonCraxx said:

Wow, I've heard animals and it was my least favorite Pink Floyd album i've heard so far. It sounds like Wish You Were Here part two, to be honest. The only memorable part of the album was the ending of Sheep which lasted twenty seconds. Quite boring for my taste.

On the other hand, I've then taken a listen to The Final Cut, which I really liked. There are some problems that I had with the album. I don't like how there are too many ballads, and a lot of the melodies sound simular until it gets to a point where you're like "Okay, We get it!" Last negative point, you shouldn't break up the same song into two parts unless you have a switch up in the mix. Prince's "Into The Light/I Will" is a fine example of how it should be done. POSITIVES: There are tracks that I adore on here, "Post War Dream" "When The Tigers Broke Free" "The Gunner's Dream" "Paranoid Eyes" "Not Now John", and the final track "Two Suns In The Sunset".

Dispite my negitive views on The Final Cut, Roger Waters went out with a bang with this one.

He's my favorite Pink floyd member.

animals is nothing like wish you were here. it's far more rockier. a lot more raw guitars

the final cut has no ballads. have a read of the lyrics

The most rock I've heard in that album was in sheep. The comparison I'm making would have to do with it both having five tracks, having both the intro and the outro with the same title, and the acoustic numbers from Animals and Wish You Were Here sounding simular.

I call all slow songs ballads. That's what I meant. I don't need to read the lyrics to know that it's an anti war album.

NeonCraxx said:

unique said:

animals is nothing like wish you were here. it's far more rockier. a lot more raw guitars

the final cut has no ballads. have a read of the lyrics

The most rock I've heard in that album was in sheep. The comparison I'm making would have to do with it both having five tracks, having both the intro and the outro with the same title, and the acoustic numbers from Animals and Wish You Were Here sounding simular.

I call all slow songs ballads. That's what I meant. I don't need to read the lyrics to know that it's an anti war album.

the number of tracks on an album doesn't make it similar

animals is like the opposite of WYWH. instead of 2 long mellow parts of the same song with 3 shorter ones in the middle, it's 2 short parts of the same song with 3 long rocky tracks in the middle for animals. give it time and come back to it later, it's a great album

if you do like final cut then you will probably like rogers solo stuff which is kinda similar. pro's and con's of hitchiking, which is a brilliant album, is very similar, but with eric clapton playing some of his best guitar work on it in a kinda southern country style, slide guitars and resonators

radio kaos is more commerical sounding, but a great album, but amused to death is more like a cross between final cut and radio kaos, not quite as commercial sounding. his solo albums keep the concept album theme of telling a story, plus sound effects etc

piper is nothing like magical mystery tour or any beatles stuff. the beatles "psychedelic" stuff was very much pop based with standard pop style catchy tunes. piper is more grateful dead psychedelic. paul macartney did pop into the sessiosn as it was recorded at abbey road like most of floyds work, but none of the beatles ever recorded on floyd stuff, but gilmour played guitar on some of maccas solo stuff like give my regards to broad street, but in saying that he played on a lot of peoples stuff like bryan ferry, grace jones and the orb