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Pokeno4Money

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Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Induction: Kid Rock, LL Cool J, The Roots added to show

Scheduled to appear:

Beastie Boys

Chuck D

Donovan

John Mellencamp

Small Faces/Faces with Rod Stewart and Ron Wood

Stevie Van Zandt

Red Hot Chili Peppers

Chris Rock

Bette Midler

Billy Gibbons and Dusty Hill

Carole King

Robbie Robertson

Smokey Robinson

Green Day

Kid Rock

LL Cool J

The Roots

Guns N' Roses (at least some of them)

One week from today, I can't wait excited

"Never let nasty stalkers disrespect you. They start shit, you finish it. Go down to their level, that's the only way they'll understand. You have to handle things yourself."
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Reply #1 posted 04/07/12 7:54am

dancerella

that is pretty exciting. when will it be televised? i really can't wait to see what happens with GNR. will axl behave??

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Reply #2 posted 04/07/12 1:01pm

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dancerella said:

that is pretty exciting. when will it be televised? i really can't wait to see what happens with GNR. will axl behave??

It will begin being televised May 5th on HBO.

At this point, most people would be happy if Axl just shows up lol

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Reply #3 posted 04/08/12 12:48am

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Green Day is inducting GNR

"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
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Reply #4 posted 04/08/12 12:50am

Gunsnhalen

hmmmmm i can't wait for this popcorn

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Reply #5 posted 04/08/12 1:27am

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Pokeno4Money said:

dancerella said:

that is pretty exciting. when will it be televised? i really can't wait to see what happens with GNR. will axl behave??

It will begin being televised May 5th on HBO.

At this point, most people would be happy if Axl just shows up lol

Doesn't look like it... Axl on friday night:

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Reply #6 posted 04/08/12 1:39am

Gunsnhalen

PatrickS77 said:

Pokeno4Money said:

It will begin being televised May 5th on HBO.

At this point, most people would be happy if Axl just shows up lol

Doesn't look like it... Axl on friday night:

I'm Axl i'm old & still bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch & gain weigth & bitch bitch bitch

razz that's all i ever hear out of his mouth

Pistols sounded like "Fuck off," wheras The Clash sounded like "Fuck Off, but here's why.."- Thedigitialgardener

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Reply #7 posted 04/08/12 1:51am

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Yeah! Seems to be a bitter man, who holds grudges forever... but then again, everbody is out to get him.

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Reply #8 posted 04/08/12 7:14am

dancerella

PatrickS77 said:

Pokeno4Money said:

It will begin being televised May 5th on HBO.

At this point, most people would be happy if Axl just shows up lol

Doesn't look like it... Axl on friday night:

Damn, that was so, cold what he said. Why is he so bitter towards his bandmates? What happened? And what the hell is he doing hanging with Lana Del Ray?? eek

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Reply #9 posted 04/08/12 7:29am

Gunsnhalen

dancerella said:

PatrickS77 said:

Doesn't look like it... Axl on friday night:

Damn, that was so, cold what he said. Why is he so bitter towards his bandmates? What happened? And what the hell is he doing hanging with Lana Del Ray?? eek

Axl is a bi-polar bitter person. For many reasons, but he seems to have the biggest beef with Slash. There's many supposed reasons, but one think i can think of is that Slash called Axl on his shit early. I read his book, and Slash know's he himself is flawed but he can always admit Axl is a great singer & said he liked some of CD. But Axl is always just bitch i hate bitch i hate bitch i hate him.

There's some funny videos on youtube of Slash with Metallica backstage making fun of Axl lol

Pistols sounded like "Fuck off," wheras The Clash sounded like "Fuck Off, but here's why.."- Thedigitialgardener

All music is shit music and no music is real- gunsnhalen

Datdonkeydick- Asherfierce

Gary Hunts Album Isn't That Good- Soulalive
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Reply #10 posted 04/08/12 7:34am

dancerella

Gunsnhalen said:

dancerella said:

Damn, that was so, cold what he said. Why is he so bitter towards his bandmates? What happened? And what the hell is he doing hanging with Lana Del Ray?? eek

Axl is a bi-polar bitter person. For many reasons, but he seems to have the biggest beef with Slash. There's many supposed reasons, but one think i can think of is that Slash called Axl on his shit early. I read his book, and Slash know's he himself is flawed but he can always admit Axl is a great singer & said he liked some of CD. But Axl is always just bitch i hate bitch i hate bitch i hate him.

There's some funny videos on youtube of Slash with Metallica backstage making fun of Axl lol

well i wish he would get it together and sort his shit out already but i guess it will never happen. now i'm doubting he will attend the rock n' roll hallof fame induction. sad

i just did a little research and did you guys know Lana Del Ray has a song called Axl Rose Husband? seems she's fancied him for a while now.

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Reply #11 posted 04/08/12 7:58am

Gunsnhalen

dancerella said:

Gunsnhalen said:

Axl is a bi-polar bitter person. For many reasons, but he seems to have the biggest beef with Slash. There's many supposed reasons, but one think i can think of is that Slash called Axl on his shit early. I read his book, and Slash know's he himself is flawed but he can always admit Axl is a great singer & said he liked some of CD. But Axl is always just bitch i hate bitch i hate bitch i hate him.

There's some funny videos on youtube of Slash with Metallica backstage making fun of Axl lol

well i wish he would get it together and sort his shit out already but i guess it will never happen. now i'm doubting he will attend the rock n' roll hallof fame induction. sad

i just did a little research and did you guys know Lana Del Ray has a song called Axl Rose Husband? seems she's fancied him for a while now.

I do not dig her music at all lol but my sister does & told me about the song confused

All i can say to her is rolleyes talk to the hand

Pistols sounded like "Fuck off," wheras The Clash sounded like "Fuck Off, but here's why.."- Thedigitialgardener

All music is shit music and no music is real- gunsnhalen

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Gary Hunts Album Isn't That Good- Soulalive
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Reply #12 posted 04/08/12 12:03pm

Pokeno4Money

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Gunsnhalen said:

dancerella said:

Damn, that was so, cold what he said. Why is he so bitter towards his bandmates? What happened? And what the hell is he doing hanging with Lana Del Ray?? eek

Axl is a bi-polar bitter person. For many reasons, but he seems to have the biggest beef with Slash. There's many supposed reasons, but one think i can think of is that Slash called Axl on his shit early. I read his book, and Slash know's he himself is flawed but he can always admit Axl is a great singer & said he liked some of CD. But Axl is always just bitch i hate bitch i hate bitch i hate him.

There's some funny videos on youtube of Slash with Metallica backstage making fun of Axl lol

Not too long ago Axl was quoted as saying if there ever was a reunion tour it would be with only Slash and Duff because he can't depend on Izzy (ditches commitments with zero notice) and Steven (drug issues). I think that's why he said what he said in the Lana Del Ray video, the TMZ guy asked about a full band reunion tour.

Now I think Axl dislikes Steven just as much if not more than Slash, as Steven recently called Axl's current bandmates "hacks" and said Axl is driving the GNR name into the ground.

Regardless of all the drama, I think Axl shows for the induction but doesn't perform. We'll have to wait just a few more days to find out. Duff has a House of Blues show this Friday in Cleveland, it will be interesting to see who else joins him.

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Reply #13 posted 04/11/12 9:00pm

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Axl says Back off, Bitch to Hall of fame:

https://www.facebook.com/...8055678222

To: The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame, Guns N' Roses Fans and Whom It May Concern,

When the nominations for the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame were first announced I had mixed emotions but, in an effort to be positive, wanting to make the most of things for the fans and with their enthusiasm, I was honored, excited and hoped that somehow this would be a good thing. Of course I realized as things stood, if Guns N' Roses were to be inducted it'd be somewhat of a complicated or awkward situation.

Since then we've listened to fans, talked with members of the board of the Hall Of Fame, communicated with and read various public comments and jabs from former members of Guns N' Roses, had discussions with the president of the Hall Of Fame, read various press (some legit, some contrived) and read other artists' comments weighing in publicly on Guns and the Hall with their thoughts.

Under the circumstances I feel we've been polite, courteous, and open to an amicable solution in our efforts to work something out. Taking into consideration the history of Guns N' Roses, those who plan to attend along with those the Hall for reasons of their own, have chosen to include in "our" induction (that for the record are decisions I don't agree with, support or feel the Hall has any right to make), and how (albeit no easy task) those involved with the Hall have handled things... no offense meant to anyone but the Hall Of Fame Induction Ceremony doesn't appear to be somewhere I'm actually wanted or respected.

For the record, I would not begrudge anyone from Guns their accomplishments or recognition for such. Neither I or anyone in my camp has made any requests or demands of the Hall Of Fame. It's their show not mine.

That said, I won't be attending The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame Induction 2012 Ceremony and I respectfully decline my induction as a member of Guns N' Roses to the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame.

I strongly request that I not be inducted in absentia and please know that no one is authorized nor may anyone be permitted to accept any induction for me or speak on my behalf. Neither former members, label representatives nor the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame should imply whether directly, indirectly or by omission that I am included in any purported induction of "Guns N' Roses".

This decision is personal. This letter is to help clarify things from my and my camp's perspective. Neither is meant to offend, attack or condemn. Though unfortunately I'm sure there will be those who take offense (God knows how long I'll have to contend with the fallout), I certainly don't intend to disappoint anyone, especially the fans, with this decision. Since the announcement of the nomination we've actively sought out a solution to what, with all things considered, appears to be a no win, at least for me, "damned if I do, damned if I don't" scenario all the way around.

In regard to a reunion of any kind of either the Appetite or Illusion lineups, I've publicly made myself more than clear. Nothing's changed.

The only reason, at this point, under the circumstances, in my opinion whether under the guise of "for the fans" or whatever justification of the moment, for anyone to continue to ask, suggest or demand a reunion are misguided attempts to distract from our efforts with our current lineup of myself, Dizzy Reed, Tommy Stinson, Frank Ferrer, Richard Fortus, Chris Pitman, Ron "Bumblefoot" Thal and DJ Ashba.*

Izzy came out with us a few times back in '06 and I invited him to join us at our LA Forum show last year. Steven was at our show at the Hard Rock, later in '06 in Las Vegas, where I invited him to our after-party and was rewarded with his subsequent interviews filled with reunion lies. Lesson learned. Duff joined us in 2010 and again in '11 along with his band, Loaded, opening in Seattle and Vancouver. For me, with the exception of Izzy or Duff joining us on stage if they were so inclined somewhere in the future for a song or two, that's enough.

There's a seemingly endless amount of revisionism and fantasies out there for the sake of self-promotion and business opportunities masking the actual realities. Until every single one of those generating from or originating with the earlier lineups has been brought out in the light, there isn't room to consider a conversation let alone a reunion.

Maybe if it were you it'd be different. Maybe you'd do it for this reason or that. Peace, whatever. I love our band now. We're there for each other when the going get's rough. We love our fans and work to give them every ounce of energy and heart we can.

So let sleeping dogs lie or lying dogs sleep or whatever. Time to move on. People get divorced. Life doesn't owe you your own personal happy ending especially at another's, or in this case several others', expense.

But hey if ya gotta then maybe we can get the "no show, grandstanding, publicity stunt, disrespectful, he doesn't care about the fans" crap out of the way as quickly as we can and let's move on. No one's taking the ball and going home. Don't get it twisted. For more than a decade and a half we've endured the double standards, the greed of this industry and the ever present seemingly limitless supply of wannabes and unscrupulous, irresponsible media types. Not to imply anything in this particular circumstance, but from my perspective in regard to both the Hall and a reunion, the ball's never been in our court.

In closing, regardless of this decision and as hard to believe or as ironic as it may seem, I'd like to sincerely thank the board for their nomination and their votes for Guns' induction. More importantly I'd like to thank the fans for being there over the years, making any success we've had possible and for enjoying and supporting Guns N' Roses music.

I wish the Hall a great show, congratulations to all the other artists being inducted and to our fans we look forward to seeing you on tour!!

Sincerely,

Axl Rose

P.S. RIP Armand, Long Live ABC III

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Reply #14 posted 04/11/12 9:24pm

Gunsnhalen

PatrickS77 said:

Axl says Back off, Bitch to Hall of fame:

https://www.facebook.com/...8055678222

To: The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame, Guns N' Roses Fans and Whom It May Concern,

When the nominations for the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame were first announced I had mixed emotions but, in an effort to be positive, wanting to make the most of things for the fans and with their enthusiasm, I was honored, excited and hoped that somehow this would be a good thing. Of course I realized as things stood, if Guns N' Roses were to be inducted it'd be somewhat of a complicated or awkward situation.

Since then we've listened to fans, talked with members of the board of the Hall Of Fame, communicated with and read various public comments and jabs from former members of Guns N' Roses, had discussions with the president of the Hall Of Fame, read various press (some legit, some contrived) and read other artists' comments weighing in publicly on Guns and the Hall with their thoughts.

Under the circumstances I feel we've been polite, courteous, and open to an amicable solution in our efforts to work something out. Taking into consideration the history of Guns N' Roses, those who plan to attend along with those the Hall for reasons of their own, have chosen to include in "our" induction (that for the record are decisions I don't agree with, support or feel the Hall has any right to make), and how (albeit no easy task) those involved with the Hall have handled things... no offense meant to anyone but the Hall Of Fame Induction Ceremony doesn't appear to be somewhere I'm actually wanted or respected.

For the record, I would not begrudge anyone from Guns their accomplishments or recognition for such. Neither I or anyone in my camp has made any requests or demands of the Hall Of Fame. It's their show not mine.

That said, I won't be attending The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame Induction 2012 Ceremony and I respectfully decline my induction as a member of Guns N' Roses to the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame.

I strongly request that I not be inducted in absentia and please know that no one is authorized nor may anyone be permitted to accept any induction for me or speak on my behalf. Neither former members, label representatives nor the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame should imply whether directly, indirectly or by omission that I am included in any purported induction of "Guns N' Roses".

This decision is personal. This letter is to help clarify things from my and my camp's perspective. Neither is meant to offend, attack or condemn. Though unfortunately I'm sure there will be those who take offense (God knows how long I'll have to contend with the fallout), I certainly don't intend to disappoint anyone, especially the fans, with this decision. Since the announcement of the nomination we've actively sought out a solution to what, with all things considered, appears to be a no win, at least for me, "damned if I do, damned if I don't" scenario all the way around.

In regard to a reunion of any kind of either the Appetite or Illusion lineups, I've publicly made myself more than clear. Nothing's changed.

The only reason, at this point, under the circumstances, in my opinion whether under the guise of "for the fans" or whatever justification of the moment, for anyone to continue to ask, suggest or demand a reunion are misguided attempts to distract from our efforts with our current lineup of myself, Dizzy Reed, Tommy Stinson, Frank Ferrer, Richard Fortus, Chris Pitman, Ron "Bumblefoot" Thal and DJ Ashba.*

Izzy came out with us a few times back in '06 and I invited him to join us at our LA Forum show last year. Steven was at our show at the Hard Rock, later in '06 in Las Vegas, where I invited him to our after-party and was rewarded with his subsequent interviews filled with reunion lies. Lesson learned. Duff joined us in 2010 and again in '11 along with his band, Loaded, opening in Seattle and Vancouver. For me, with the exception of Izzy or Duff joining us on stage if they were so inclined somewhere in the future for a song or two, that's enough.

There's a seemingly endless amount of revisionism and fantasies out there for the sake of self-promotion and business opportunities masking the actual realities. Until every single one of those generating from or originating with the earlier lineups has been brought out in the light, there isn't room to consider a conversation let alone a reunion.

Maybe if it were you it'd be different. Maybe you'd do it for this reason or that. Peace, whatever. I love our band now. We're there for each other when the going get's rough. We love our fans and work to give them every ounce of energy and heart we can.

So let sleeping dogs lie or lying dogs sleep or whatever. Time to move on. People get divorced. Life doesn't owe you your own personal happy ending especially at another's, or in this case several others', expense.

But hey if ya gotta then maybe we can get the "no show, grandstanding, publicity stunt, disrespectful, he doesn't care about the fans" crap out of the way as quickly as we can and let's move on. No one's taking the ball and going home. Don't get it twisted. For more than a decade and a half we've endured the double standards, the greed of this industry and the ever present seemingly limitless supply of wannabes and unscrupulous, irresponsible media types. Not to imply anything in this particular circumstance, but from my perspective in regard to both the Hall and a reunion, the ball's never been in our court.

In closing, regardless of this decision and as hard to believe or as ironic as it may seem, I'd like to sincerely thank the board for their nomination and their votes for Guns' induction. More importantly I'd like to thank the fans for being there over the years, making any success we've had possible and for enjoying and supporting Guns N' Roses music.

I wish the Hall a great show, congratulations to all the other artists being inducted and to our fans we look forward to seeing you on tour!!

Sincerely,

Axl Rose

P.S. RIP Armand, Long Live ABC III

rolleyes Fuck Axl

Pistols sounded like "Fuck off," wheras The Clash sounded like "Fuck Off, but here's why.."- Thedigitialgardener

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