Timmy84 said:

HotGritz said:

He can't and shouldn't for two reasons:

1) if he responds he is feeding into Havoc's rant and giving the dude unnecessary and undeserved shine. better to let Havoc look desperate all by his damn self.

2) if he responds there is a chance people won't believe him and he is no better off than if he kept silent. let the shit die down and people will forget all about it.

There it is right there.

Oddly- this, whatever it is, creates a platform/opportunity for healing and truth. There are a whole lot of nervous "gay for stay" players gettin fidgety right now. But they will not be persecuted, right? No one wants that stone, unless they and all of their people (brothers, sisiters, cousins, aunts and uncles, "homies," etc., who have been in jail) are free of "sin," to come back on them. Maybe a little of that truth and compassion and insight can trickle down into Queer communities.

More shit hop trash talking their foolishness.

vainandy said:

More shit hop trash talking their foolishness.

...it's fake.

He is to damn old to be acting like that

who ISNT gay for stay in prison? please.

SchlomoThaHomo said:

who ISNT gay for stay in prison? please.

lot's of people I'm sure. please lets not feed anymore into such stereotypes. not everyone in prison is gay nor likely to become gay. not everyone in prison is going to get shanked or hooked on drugs either. there are some people who actually manage to do their time and get out. even a small few are able to get some religion and education while incarcerated and possibly be better individuals once they leave the penitentiary never to return. I've never bought into that idea that people magically turn gay once they go to prison. You either is or you aint! Prison won't make a damn bit of difference when it comes to your sexual self.

Timmy84 said:

Hmm, apparently the Havoc tweets dissing Prodigy were fake if we believe Havoc here:

“Just getting back into NY after my Easter weekend with family and friends in Jersey. I left my phone at a gas station yesterday evening while on my way to Jersey after a glorious Knick’s game. To all Mobb Deep fans: it’s business as usual! It’s Mobb Deep all day!!! My twitter account @THEREALHAVOC will be down until further notice. The only other real account is @PRODIGYMOBBDEEP. Ignore the rest. One!”

I don't know if I buy the whole "my phone got jacked" story. Someone like him is not likely to leave their phone at a gas station and even if he did, the phone should have been locked/pin protected. I think he either regrets what he tweeted OR someone close to him got his cell phone and put that stuff out there. The fact that he isn't apologizing for any of the tweets, if they were fake and not penned by him, is a little disturbing. Why not start your comment with "Those Statements Did Not Come From Me" or something to that effect.

HotGritz said:

SchlomoThaHomo said:

who ISNT gay for stay in prison? please.

lot's of people I'm sure. please lets not feed anymore into such stereotypes. not everyone in prison is gay nor likely to become gay. not everyone in prison is going to get shanked or hooked on drugs either. there are some people who actually manage to do their time and get out. even a small few are able to get some religion and education while incarcerated and possibly be better individuals once they leave the penitentiary never to return. I've never bought into that idea that people magically turn gay once they go to prison. You either is or you aint! Prison won't make a damn bit of difference when it comes to your sexual self.

Well that's what Gay For Stay means. Doesn't mean you're gay. I'd say a lot of the guys who have sexual experiences in prison are not gay and upon release go back to their girfriends/wives because that's their preference. I'm basing this on research I did for a sociology class and also conversations with someone I was dating who was away for a couple years. Havoc was obviously trying to degrade Prodigy by accusing him of doing something that happens a lot in the pen but that nobody comes out of there bragging about. So my point I guess is BFD if he did. He ain't the only one.

Timmy84 said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

Here it is folks:

WHAT DO THEY TEACH in schools????

SchlomoThaHomo said:

HotGritz said:

lot's of people I'm sure. please lets not feed anymore into such stereotypes. not everyone in prison is gay nor likely to become gay. not everyone in prison is going to get shanked or hooked on drugs either. there are some people who actually manage to do their time and get out. even a small few are able to get some religion and education while incarcerated and possibly be better individuals once they leave the penitentiary never to return. I've never bought into that idea that people magically turn gay once they go to prison. You either is or you aint! Prison won't make a damn bit of difference when it comes to your sexual self.

Well that's what Gay For Stay means. Doesn't mean you're gay. I'd say a lot of the guys who have sexual experiences in prison are not gay and upon release go back to their girfriends/wives because that's their preference. I'm basing this on research I did for a sociology class and also conversations with someone I was dating who was away for a couple years. Havoc was obviously trying to degrade Prodigy by accusing him of doing something that happens a lot in the pen but that nobody comes out of there bragging about. So my point I guess is BFD if he did. He ain't the only one.

I'm saying I don't believe in Gay For Stay. The only guys who have sexual experiences in prison but are not gay are the ones whose sexual experiences were not voluntary e.g. rape. All others, IMO and from what I've read, were always gay but not OUT within their community because that community would not have accepted them. You aren't going to do something sexual if you don't want to or if you don't enjoy it which is why I mentioned prison rape, a very serious and underlooked issue. I don't believe Prodigy was raped in prison nor do I believe he went to prison and was like "oh well time to get some dick and ass and then back to pussy on my release date".

Now its not clear if Havoc is accusing Prodigy of being willfully on the DL ( a problem for his wife or girlfriend and children if he has any) or if he is saying Prodigy got violated while locked up. Either way, it looks bad for Prodigy because in the rap world...he will get no sympathy one way or the other.

paisleypark4 said:

Timmy84 said:

Here it is folks:

WHAT DO THEY TEACH in schools????

Nothing it seems.

HotGritz said:

SchlomoThaHomo said:

who ISNT gay for stay in prison? please.

lot's of people I'm sure. please lets not feed anymore into such stereotypes. not everyone in prison is gay nor likely to become gay. not everyone in prison is going to get shanked or hooked on drugs either. there are some people who actually manage to do their time and get out. even a small few are able to get some religion and education while incarcerated and possibly be better individuals once they leave the penitentiary never to return. I've never bought into that idea that people magically turn gay once they go to prison. You either is or you aint! Prison won't make a damn bit of difference when it comes to your sexual self.

Doesn't "gay for stay" mean to give out for safe passage (npi) or be clocked with a shiv, possibly raped? I would have thought someone like him, clued up and no stranger to grief, could buy protection inside anyway.

Twitter is the devil......

SchlomoThaHomo said:

HotGritz said:

lot's of people I'm sure. please lets not feed anymore into such stereotypes. not everyone in prison is gay nor likely to become gay. not everyone in prison is going to get shanked or hooked on drugs either. there are some people who actually manage to do their time and get out. even a small few are able to get some religion and education while incarcerated and possibly be better individuals once they leave the penitentiary never to return. I've never bought into that idea that people magically turn gay once they go to prison. You either is or you aint! Prison won't make a damn bit of difference when it comes to your sexual self.

Well that's what Gay For Stay means. Doesn't mean you're gay. I'd say a lot of the guys who have sexual experiences in prison are not gay and upon release go back to their girfriends/wives because that's their preference. I'm basing this on research I did for a sociology class and also conversations with someone I was dating who was away for a couple years. Havoc was obviously trying to degrade Prodigy by accusing him of doing something that happens a lot in the pen but that nobody comes out of there bragging about. So my point I guess is BFD if he did. He ain't the only one.

You can't have a gay sexual experience and be straight unless you have been raped. Real straight men don't experiment and no other man touches their dick except the doctor for medical purposes. I'm gay and if I were locked up for years around nothing but women, I wouldn't sleep with them just because there were no men available to me. I'd just be doing a lot of jacking off while I was locked up.

If anything, these men are bisexuals in denial and the majority of them are gay bashers themselves. That's why we call these type of men "trade" to distinguish between them and the bisexual men that will at least admit to themselves that they are bisexual. Trade will argue you down and swear that they are straight and in thier warped brain, they actually force themselves to believe they are straight. But not fully though, because if they did believe they were straight, then they would brag about their sexual encounters with men just like they brag about their sexual encounters with women. They don't because they know the world would give them hell if they did and that's what I want is is for the world to give them hell. It would give me an absolute orgasm to live to see the day that the world calls them "fags" and dishes out the treatment to them that they have dished out to us.

vainandy said: