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Feb 2012 pic.

shorttrini said:

Musicslave said:

I've heard about that mixtape but I simply discarded it figuring I wasn't missing much. I guess I was wrong. Although she would probably object, some of these tracks could be easily fleshed out with the right producer behind them. And I'm not talking over-produced either.

In some ways, I like this better than the released version. I was not disappointed.

Really? In what ways? I'm definitely going to check it out...Better late than ever.

Musicslave said:

shorttrini said:

In some ways, I like this better than the released version. I was not disappointed.

Really? In what ways? I'm definitely going to check it out...Better late than ever.

The just seemed raw and have this "unpolished" feel to them. Like, what she wanted to say, but couldn't....

Timmy84 said:

That picture sparked rumors that Lauryn was probably on something.

I don't know if she's on something or not but people need to stop saying artists are on drugs because they dress weird, this make no sense ...

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Probably drugs, weed in particular, and a stressful relationship. Those two factors alone can cost you years, if not a decade, before you even know it.

I don´t understand all those "dickwhipped" remarks here.

Do you seriously think that the sex some dude is giving is THAT good that you become addicted and lose all self esteem? I think there must be more behind it than that. Sure, you can do a lot of crazy stuff and make mistaked because you want to maintain an unhealthy relationship but I don´t think that sex alone is the only factor.

I´m not really waiting for another legit release by her, and I think at times she was simply too full of herself and took herself and her ideas too seriously ( for a moment I was worried about Badu going the same route) but I would never count her off as a has been.

I have always believed in D´Angelo and a possible comeback and guess who came back with some great shows a few months ago?

No matter how long the break was that he took, and you can see my posts here on the org as a proof that I never lost belief in D´Angelo but then again, D´Angelo is a more accomplished musician than Lauryn but still, I think she can always make a comeback and release a successful album no matter how much time has passed since her last release. Look at Sade, she takes long breaks, too.

Cotontige said:

Timmy84 said:

That picture sparked rumors that Lauryn was probably on something.

I don't know if she's on something or not but people need to stop saying artists are on drugs because they dress weird, this make no sense ...

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She is (or was) a highly intelligent, smart, educated, articulate, eloquent woman with a university degree in literature so I guess she had a certain amount of discipline and brains in the past.

For the best part of the last decade and more, she would often mumble about weird conspiracy theories, show up extremely late when she had a concert (much like Sly Stone did) and act and dress all weird, drastically different from before, spiced with an unhealthy dose of paranoia.

I´m not saying that she IS using drugs but the signs are there.

That being said, I´d never rule out the possibility that she can still get her act together, write a few good, new songs, add some unreleased material and find a good producer and release a great album again. Lesser talents are out there filling the void that she´s left, so why not?

She would have to either find new producers and musicians though or settle her disputes with those dudes who felt ripped off during the making of her first album. There were some nasty disputes regarding credits back then.

I know you weren´t referring to me, but still....

KoolEaze said:

Probably drugs, weed in particular, and a stressful relationship. Those two factors alone can cost you years, if not a decade, before you even know it.

I don´t understand all those "dickwhipped" remarks here.

Do you seriously think that the sex some dude is giving is THAT good that you become addicted and lose all self esteem? I think there must be more behind it than that. Sure, you can do a lot of crazy stuff and make mistaked because you want to maintain an unhealthy relationship but I don´t think that sex alone is the only factor.

I´m not really waiting for another legit release by her, and I think at times she was simply too full of herself and took herself and her ideas too seriously ( for a moment I was worried about Badu going the same route) but I would never count her off as a has been.

I have always believed in D´Angelo and a possible comeback and guess who came back with some great shows a few months ago?

No matter how long the break was that he took, and you can see my posts here on the org as a proof that I never lost belief in D´Angelo but then again, D´Angelo is a more accomplished musician than Lauryn but still, I think she can always make a comeback and release a successful album no matter how much time has passed since her last release. Look at Sade, she takes long breaks, too.

im with you right here. taking long breaks and wearing ugly outfits doesnt necessarily mean youre crazy. all that other bullshit might.

i believe that lauren's probs are more deeply rooted in the "not having a dad" thing she has talked about before. it speaks to a serious lack of discearnment if you have 5 kids with a married man in full awareness of his bullshit etc. but she obviously doesnt know how to pick a good man- wyclef is a braggert and an idiot that used to make some good records. marley has always been trash,imo. but then his father was a notorious shagmonster and only half of bm's kids are legit. im sure his son simply follows that pattern.

those unreleased tracks were nice but nothing special. lauren has talent but was never great as a recording artist- but onstage she had more swag than most people EVER!! i think that's what her fans and the others watching have noticed. the light in her eyes and the swag is gone. i think that somes from deep unhappiness and all that other bs with clef and marley.

shorttrini said:

Musicslave said:

Really? In what ways? I'm definitely going to check it out...Better late than ever.

The just seemed raw and have this "unpolished" feel to them. Like, what she wanted to say, but couldn't....

I hear ya on the rawness. I think she was forcing the listener more than ever pay attention to the lyrics. To much polish risked that getting lost.

She's come a long baby, like them long ass cigarettes from Virginia...

wavesofbliss said:

KoolEaze said:

Probably drugs, weed in particular, and a stressful relationship. Those two factors alone can cost you years, if not a decade, before you even know it.

I don´t understand all those "dickwhipped" remarks here.

Do you seriously think that the sex some dude is giving is THAT good that you become addicted and lose all self esteem? I think there must be more behind it than that. Sure, you can do a lot of crazy stuff and make mistaked because you want to maintain an unhealthy relationship but I don´t think that sex alone is the only factor.

I´m not really waiting for another legit release by her, and I think at times she was simply too full of herself and took herself and her ideas too seriously ( for a moment I was worried about Badu going the same route) but I would never count her off as a has been.

I have always believed in D´Angelo and a possible comeback and guess who came back with some great shows a few months ago?

No matter how long the break was that he took, and you can see my posts here on the org as a proof that I never lost belief in D´Angelo but then again, D´Angelo is a more accomplished musician than Lauryn but still, I think she can always make a comeback and release a successful album no matter how much time has passed since her last release. Look at Sade, she takes long breaks, too.

im with you right here. taking long breaks and wearing ugly outfits doesnt necessarily mean youre crazy. all that other bullshit might.

i believe that lauren's probs are more deeply rooted in the "not having a dad" thing she has talked about before. it speaks to a serious lack of discearnment if you have 5 kids with a married man in full awareness of his bullshit etc. but she obviously doesnt know how to pick a good man- wyclef is a braggert and an idiot that used to make some good records. marley has always been trash,imo. but then his father was a notorious shagmonster and only half of bm's kids are legit. im sure his son simply follows that pattern.

those unreleased tracks were nice but nothing special. lauren has talent but was never great as a recording artist- but onstage she had more swag than most people EVER!! i think that's what her fans and the others watching have noticed. the light in her eyes and the swag is gone. i think that somes from deep unhappiness and all that other bs with clef and marley.

Yeah she did have swagger about her that got lost. She does have mental issues as Harlepolis said and having five children by a man who don't wanna marry ya don't help matters.

Is it confirmed that she has a mental illness?

Heartbreak, overnight success, music industry politics, possible bipolar disorder, and dickmatism are all a combination of what led us here. But I am completely 100% supportive of Lauryn and hope she does what is best for herself!

smoothcriminal12 said:

Is it confirmed that she has a mental illness?

I don't know where I read she had one, maybe it was assumed on Rolling Stone, I don't know.

Right. There are no substantiated reports she was ever medically diagnosed with a mental illness. There are some who have made the claim because of her eccentricities.

Identity said:

Right. There are no substantiated reports she was ever medically diagnosed with a mental illness. There are some who have made the claim because of her eccentricities.

So basically she just wild out on her own merit then? lol

On a somewhat unrelated note...

Does ANYONE know what the hell Pras was talking about in the booklet for The Score?

Lauryn & Wyclef have these long thank you's & Pras is just like thank you to God & people who did or did not support me. And i hope people got tired of sucking dicks in 95? is he talking about people sucking dicks for record deals? kissing ass? or was he tired of sucking dick in private?

wtf was that line all about

Gunsnhalen said:

On a somewhat unrelated note...

Does ANYONE know what the hell Pras was talking about in the booklet for The Score?

Lauryn & Wyclef have these long thank you's & Pras is just like thank you to God & people who did or did not support me. And i hope people got tired of sucking dicks in 95? is he talking about people sucking dicks for record deals? kissing ass? or was he tired of sucking dick in private?

wtf was that line all about

I was always confused by Praz's thank you liner notes... he might've meant tricking for record deals. Who knows?

Timmy84 said:

Gunsnhalen said:

On a somewhat unrelated note...

Does ANYONE know what the hell Pras was talking about in the booklet for The Score?

Lauryn & Wyclef have these long thank you's & Pras is just like thank you to God & people who did or did not support me. And i hope people got tired of sucking dicks in 95? is he talking about people sucking dicks for record deals? kissing ass? or was he tired of sucking dick in private?

wtf was that line all about

I was always confused by Praz's thank you liner notes... he might've meant tricking for record deals. Who knows?

i was thinking the same but who know's!

Pras... idk his work outside the Fugees to me so just... eh. His 2 solo albums are just so bland.

Gunsnhalen said:

Timmy84 said:

I was always confused by Praz's thank you liner notes... he might've meant tricking for record deals. Who knows?

i was thinking the same but who know's!

Pras... idk his work outside the Fugees to me so just... eh. His 2 solo albums are just so bland.

Praz was cool in the Fugees but his solo material left a lot to be desired.

Timmy84 said:

Gunsnhalen said:

i was thinking the same but who know's!

Pras... idk his work outside the Fugees to me so just... eh. His 2 solo albums are just so bland.

Praz was cool in the Fugees but his solo material left a lot to be desired.

And let's not forget that documentary he did... where he slept on skid row for 9 day's. But most of the time chickened out & went to food places

Gunsnhalen said:

Timmy84 said:

Praz was cool in the Fugees but his solo material left a lot to be desired.

And let's not forget that documentary he did... where he slept on skid row for 9 day's. But most of the time chickened out & went to food places

I remember it too well.

Identity said:

Right. There are no substantiated reports she was ever medically diagnosed with a mental illness. There are some who have made the claim because of her eccentricities.

Ah.

what label were the fugees on?

scriptgirl said:

what label were the fugees on?

Ruffhouse/Columbia.

Timmy84 said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

Is it confirmed that she has a mental illness?

I don't know where I read she had one, maybe it was assumed on Rolling Stone, I don't know.

I remember reading this in an article, too, but can't remember where. I believe it stated or suggested that she suffered from a bipolar disorder.

purplethunder3121 said:

Timmy84 said:

I don't know where I read she had one, maybe it was assumed on Rolling Stone, I don't know.

I remember reading this in an article, too, but can't remember where. I believe it stated or suggested that she suffered from a bipolar disorder.

That's it!

Timmy84 said:

purplethunder3121 said:

I remember reading this in an article, too, but can't remember where. I believe it stated or suggested that she suffered from a bipolar disorder.

That's it!

Yeah, that is what Wyclef said in one of the vids i posted. He said he think's she needed to be on medication... which could be true or it could be him justtalking shit as usual. We may never know

Gunsnhalen said:

Timmy84 said:

That's it!

Yeah, that is what Wyclef said in one of the vids i posted. He said he think's she needed to be on medication... which could be true or it could be him justtalking shit as usual. We may never know

Well, bipolar symptoms are pretty easy to spot for those who have known those who suffer from the disorder. Sometimes they can be misconstrued as "druggie" behaviors or they might be exacerbated by drug use. Some of Lauren's odd behavior suggests bipolar disorder even if I hadn't read an article on it, since I have known a couple of people in my life who suffered from it. Regardless, her "Miseducation" album is a true music classic and her talent can't be denied, whatever has happened in her life. One more note on "bipolar disorder" and other types of "disorders"--just because someone suffers from one of these doesn't mean they are "crazy" or wacked out of their minds. That only happens in extreme cases. Most people that suffer from bipolar disorder, including the ones that I have known, were very intelligient and talented people who were well aware of their problem but couldn't control it. That is why both counseling and the RIGHT kind of medication is essential. But, all of us should watch out about pasting the "crazy" label on people. That is all!

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purplethunder3121 said:

Gunsnhalen said:

Yeah, that is what Wyclef said in one of the vids i posted. He said he think's she needed to be on medication... which could be true or it could be him justtalking shit as usual. We may never know

Well, bipolar symptoms are pretty easy to spot for those who have known those who suffer from the disorder. Sometimes they can be misconstrued as "druggie" behaviors or they might be exacerbated by drug use. Some of Lauren's odd behavior suggests bipolar disorder even if I hadn't read an article on it, since I have known a couple of people in my life who suffered from it. Regardless, her "Miseducation" album is a true music classic and her talent can't be denied, whatever has happened in her life. One more note on "bipolar disorder" and other types of "disorders"--just because someone suffers from one of these doesn't mean they are "crazy" or wacked out of their minds. That only happens in extreme cases. Most people that suffer from bipolar disorder, including the ones that I have known, were very intelligient and talented people who were well aware of their problem but couldn't control it. That is why both counseling and the RIGHT kind of medication is essential. But, all of us should watch out about pasting the "crazy" label on people. That is all!

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That is true! i have a few friend's who are on the medication

Hmm idk Lauryn isn't in the spotlight to much...... so idk if i can spot to much of the behavior