MidniteMagnet said:

I've been saying for years that Whitney had dentures because of that whack ass lisp she had going on. But I was proven wrong by this autopsy report! She had a full set of upper dental implants. I should have known that someone with her wealth would go for the better option. I just can't imagine doing so much drugs that your teeth rot out. She must have been so embarrassed walking into the dentist's office.

Yeah, once she got off her high she realized she didn't wanna go out like that. I know she wasn't in her right mind when she was on drugs. I mean no one in their right mind would be spotted at an Atlanta gas station department store at 3 in the morning looking as disheveled as she was if they WEREN'T using. My heart still breaks every time I see that pic because I kept going "Whitney, why? Why?"

MidniteMagnet said:

I've been saying for years that Whitney had dentures because of that whack ass lisp she had going on. But I was proven wrong by this autopsy report! She had a full set of upper dental implants. I should have known that someone with her wealth would go for the better option. I just can't imagine doing so much drugs that your teeth rot out. She must have been so embarrassed walking into the dentist's office.

poor dental health is also linked to heart disease which the coroner's report says she had. I hope it was the drugs that ruined her teeth and not some domestic violence.

she chose her path .. god l sort it out

HotGritz said:

MidniteMagnet said:

I've been saying for years that Whitney had dentures because of that whack ass lisp she had going on. But I was proven wrong by this autopsy report! She had a full set of upper dental implants. I should have known that someone with her wealth would go for the better option. I just can't imagine doing so much drugs that your teeth rot out. She must have been so embarrassed walking into the dentist's office.

poor dental health is also linked to heart disease which the coroner's report says she had. I hope it was the drugs that ruined her teeth and not some domestic violence.

I read some tabloid (and I usually don't believe them anyway) that said that the reason her upper teeth was rotting away was due to her using cocaine and meth. This was around 2003 or 2004.

MidniteMagnet said:

I've been saying for years that Whitney had dentures because of that whack ass lisp she had going on. But I was proven wrong by this autopsy report! She had a full set of upper dental implants. I should have known that someone with her wealth would go for the better option. I just can't imagine doing so much drugs that your teeth rot out. She must have been so embarrassed walking into the dentist's office.

Truly sad to even let her addiction get that far.

HotGritz said:

MidniteMagnet said:

I've been saying for years that Whitney had dentures because of that whack ass lisp she had going on. But I was proven wrong by this autopsy report! She had a full set of upper dental implants. I should have known that someone with her wealth would go for the better option. I just can't imagine doing so much drugs that your teeth rot out. She must have been so embarrassed walking into the dentist's office.

poor dental health is also linked to heart disease which the coroner's report says she had. I hope it was the drugs that ruined her teeth and not some domestic violence.

Most famous talent get new dental implants. That is not rare. U will find them on 95% of talent..Has nothing to do with her drug use. She wanted to look perfect. Down to her very extremely tight wig that they had to pry off of her..

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

HotGritz said:

poor dental health is also linked to heart disease which the coroner's report says she had. I hope it was the drugs that ruined her teeth and not some domestic violence.

Most famous talent get new dental implants. That is not rare. U will find them on 95% of talent..Has nothing to do with her drug use. She wanted to look perfect. Down to her very extremely tight wig that they had to pry off of her..

Nah boo, don't give me that crap. I stomp in LA too remember? That 95% you speak of are getting veneers NOT implants. Porcelain veneers and many get the lumineers. It is a quick procedure and the veneers/lumineers can last you up to twenty years if you get the expensive kind. Most dentists are not going to remove healthy teeh and replace with implants, the risk of malpractice is too great. Implants are reserved for when you have already lost your teeth or if you are elderly and your gumline has severely receded.

How would U know if they are getting veneers or dental implaints? Are U at the dentist for the procedures?

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If she was getting veneers, it would've shown up in the autopsy but girl was getting implants so her upper teeth fell out or rot from drug use/heart disease. Explains why she talked the way she did the last few years of her life. She didn't always talk like that.

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KCOOLMUZIQ said:

How would U know if they are getting veneers or dental implaints? Are U at the dentist for the procedures?

Are YOU at the dentist office? Is that how you know Will & Jada so well? Are they're teeth in tact?

lol it's funny how some didn't read she had implants in the autopsy report but then say she was getting veneers. Mmkay...

HotGritz said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

How would U know if they are getting veneers or dental implaints? Are U at the dentist for the procedures?

Are YOU at the dentist office? Is that how you know Will & Jada so well? Are they're teeth in tact?

and another one

Timmy84 said:

If she was getting veneers, it would've shown up in the autopsy but girl was getting implants so her upper teeth fell out or rot from drug use/heart disease. Explains why she talked the way she did the last few years of her life. She didn't always talk like that.

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I beleive that about Whitney. My comment was directed at Kool talknbout 95% of the talent aka celebs have dental implants and that shit just aint true. Now if he would have said 25% then I would not argue with him since he'd be addressing most likely those over the age of 50 or those with extensive drug abuse problems. Those people tend to lose their teeth and implants are needed.

HotGritz said:

petes2 said:

ya but you can't be stoned 24/7, that would be like being horny and craving sex 24/7, it doesn't happen like that. I know a druggie gets to jonesing, I've seen it, but it's not like they are drunk or high at that moment. Now of course when you're drunk, anything goes but whitney would have had to snort south america to stay high like you're saying and would have died 20 years ago.

Ok I don't want to laugh at that but its mad funny. Forget the part of getting stoned and focus on the damage that the drugs have done to one's brain. Her brain, and therefore her thought processes, were not that of a lucid, drug-free, person posessing clarity and the ability to make rationale and right decisions. Even the fact that she had seizures shows the extent to which the drugs damaged her brain.

ok, so you don't put self-determination anywhere in there, I can't respect that. just can't, anyway, is it a fact the woman had seizures? I'd never heard that but don't doubt it.

@petes2 it could be a mixture of both. Drugs are known to trigger something in your brain, I read about it somewhere. Drug abuse can make you do things that one on drugs or coming off the high wouldn't do without it.

petes2 said:

HotGritz said:

Ok I don't want to laugh at that but its mad funny. Forget the part of getting stoned and focus on the damage that the drugs have done to one's brain. Her brain, and therefore her thought processes, were not that of a lucid, drug-free, person posessing clarity and the ability to make rationale and right decisions. Even the fact that she had seizures shows the extent to which the drugs damaged her brain.

ok, so you don't put self-determination anywhere in there, I can't respect that. just can't, anyway, is it a fact the woman had seizures? I'd never heard that but don't doubt it.

Whitney stopped being self-determined a long time ago. That smoked that clean away. No its not a fact that she suffered a seizure (that's my language and slip up so excuse me) but it wouldn't surprise me because of the prescription drugs, the cocaine and her just colapsing into the tub. I would say either seizure or heart attack. In fact I had said heart attack and accidental drowning from the very beginning and we arrive at accidental drowning with heart disease.

Seriously, it's sad that grown folks sit on here rolling their eyes at people like it really matters Whitney was someone's daughter, sister,mother, etc. It doesn't matter what kinda dental work she had or how she died. What matters is that she gave us great music and movies and she mattered. She did more in her life than most of us will ever do. So fuck the eye rolling and thinking your opinion outweighs everybody else's. How did such a sad topic about someone's death turn into an eye rolling contest. Damn!

Timmy84 said:

@petes2 it could be a mixture of both. Drugs are known to trigger something in your brain, I read about it somewhere. Drug abuse can make you do things that one on drugs or coming off the high wouldn't do without it.

I just don't know, I tell people that if people kidnapped me and forced me to take heroin, smoke cigarettes or alcohol that I'd still never be addicted afterwards. I guess as a Native American, I've never bought the whole line of thinking about weakness to certain addictions, I have never drank, never worry about it. Not to be on a high horse, I have my demons but alcohol will never be one, neither will drugs. You see, the whole mentality of rehab takes away the persons volition, thanks in part to the AA preachings that we are powerless to addiction. I think part of it is what bill cosby once said "so why do we do it? we do it to take the challenge and when you beat the addiction you get a big bong as a prize". It's stupid, I don't have patience for it really, I left a job at a bar, partially because all the idiocy of the drunks, partially the drug addicts who worked there, I was broke, didn't know how I was gonna survive but that's life, sometimes you just have to say fuck it and just go. Am I making sense? I've learned the hard way that when you make those sorts of decisions it is not something you can do like "well, we can still be friends" or "ok you want me around, change this or that" it's just cut the bullshit out of your life. It's gotten pretty simple and i had to go through alot of useless drama and pain to learn this.

Just read the autopsy report, and her hotel room must have been a drug harem. There were drugs literally on every corner in the room, on every damn table, and everywhere. I'm surprised she lived that long to be honest. She was not just an addict, she must have been an ultra addict, a very sad way to die.

The bathroom is particulary used for consumption it seems. It kinda makes me think she got very high before jumping in the tub.

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petes2 said:

Timmy84 said:

@petes2 it could be a mixture of both. Drugs are known to trigger something in your brain, I read about it somewhere. Drug abuse can make you do things that one on drugs or coming off the high wouldn't do without it.

I just don't know, I tell people that if people kidnapped me and forced me to take heroin, smoke cigarettes or alcohol that I'd still never be addicted afterwards. I guess as a Native American, I've never bought the whole line of thinking about weakness to certain addictions, I have never drank, never worry about it. Not to be on a high horse, I have my demons but alcohol will never be one, neither will drugs. You see, the whole mentality of rehab takes away the persons volition, thanks in part to the AA preachings that we are powerless to addiction. I think part of it is what bill cosby once said "so why do we do it? we do it to take the challenge and when you beat the addiction you get a big bong as a prize". It's stupid, I don't have patience for it really, I left a job at a bar, partially because all the idiocy of the drunks, partially the drug addicts who worked there, I was broke, didn't know how I was gonna survive but that's life, sometimes you just have to say fuck it and just go. Am I making sense? I've learned the hard way that when you make those sorts of decisions it is not something you can do like "well, we can still be friends" or "ok you want me around, change this or that" it's just cut the bullshit out of your life. It's gotten pretty simple and i had to go through alot of useless drama and pain to learn this.

That's why I think Whitney had some insecurity issues. Some people think they need it to get over whatever troubled them 10, 20 years back.

Its also no way in hell the people around her didn't know she was still using. Especially her aunt that found her in the bathtub. They had to be enablers or just yes people that just wanted checks & turned a blind eye.

what? we agree on something? say it aint so.

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Its also no way in hell the people around her didn't know she was still using. Especially her aunt that found her in the bathtub. They had to be enablers or just yes people that just wanted checks & turned a blind eye.

all these fucking excuses get out of hand, I'm not speaking about whitney anymore, I'm speaking about "addiction" you know we've had lots of public figures succumb to drugs, way more than enough to know what they do to you, yet people still get involved, start, experiment with drugs, and that is not excused by "addiction" but "peer pressure" or some other shit. It's bull. If your pals don't want you around because you won't smoke a joint then fuck'em.

Timmy84 said:

petes2 said:

I just don't know, I tell people that if people kidnapped me and forced me to take heroin, smoke cigarettes or alcohol that I'd still never be addicted afterwards. I guess as a Native American, I've never bought the whole line of thinking about weakness to certain addictions, I have never drank, never worry about it. Not to be on a high horse, I have my demons but alcohol will never be one, neither will drugs. You see, the whole mentality of rehab takes away the persons volition, thanks in part to the AA preachings that we are powerless to addiction. I think part of it is what bill cosby once said "so why do we do it? we do it to take the challenge and when you beat the addiction you get a big bong as a prize". It's stupid, I don't have patience for it really, I left a job at a bar, partially because all the idiocy of the drunks, partially the drug addicts who worked there, I was broke, didn't know how I was gonna survive but that's life, sometimes you just have to say fuck it and just go. Am I making sense? I've learned the hard way that when you make those sorts of decisions it is not something you can do like "well, we can still be friends" or "ok you want me around, change this or that" it's just cut the bullshit out of your life. It's gotten pretty simple and i had to go through alot of useless drama and pain to learn this.

That's why I think Whitney had some insecurity issues. Some people think they need it to get over whatever troubled them 10, 20 years back.

everyone has issues, I also know that many musicians get stage fright and take something to deal with it, I still get stage fright but I just face it. You know, I am a fighter and I always tell people that it's more frightening to get on stage and play than it ever was to fight. But if it's what you do, you do it. I think it was Karl Jung who said "neurosis is just an excuse for legitimate suffering".

HotGritz said:

SUPRMAN said:

How would she have been murdered? Of course they investigated the possibility of murder.

What suggests murder? She died?

How do you know that? When she died, the authorities wasted no time suggesting her death was accidental. I don't recall any mention or investigation of murder. Not even the word murder was uttered.

2/13/2012 10:42 AM PST BY TMZ STAFF

In case you were secretly wondering, NO ONE killed Whitney Houston ... this according to the police department currently investigating the singer's death.

A rep for the Beverly Hills Police Department -- the precinct that responded to Whitney's death scene at Beverly Hilton hotel Saturday -- just spoke at a newsconference, claiming detectives are currently pursuing a death investigation ... NOT a homicide investigation.

The rep Lt. Mark Rosen adds, "This is a normal investigation for death of someone of [Whitney's] age."

According to Rosen, the preliminary investigation is nearly complete -- pending final coroner findings.

http://www.tmz.com/2012/0...3-EPJlrOf4

Beverly Hills police officials said Wednesday that they will be able to wrap up their investigation into Whitney Houston's death after the Los Angeles County coroner released its final report Wednesday.

Lt. Mark Rosen, a spokesman for the Beverly Hills Police Department, said the investigation had been on hold pending release of the final coroner's report. But now investigators will proceed based on those findings, which concluded that the singer's death was accidental and the result of cocaine ingestion and a heart condition.

"We can't finalize the case until we see what's in the report," Rosen said. "We have to review the document and we will take the appropriate course of action based on the coroner's findings."

He offered no timetable for official completion of the Beverly Hills police investigation.

[Edited]

http://latimesblogs.latim...robe-.html

petes2 said:

Timmy84 said:

That's why I think Whitney had some insecurity issues. Some people think they need it to get over whatever troubled them 10, 20 years back.

everyone has issues, I also know that many musicians get stage fright and take something to deal with it, I still get stage fright but I just face it. You know, I am a fighter and I always tell people that it's more frightening to get on stage and play than it ever was to fight. But if it's what you do, you do it. I think it was Karl Jung who said "neurosis is just an excuse for legitimate suffering".

I didn't say everybody. Some folks just have addictive personalities. That's all I was saying. If someone has emotional baggage and an addictive personality, it's easy to see why Whitney fell to peer pressure not to mention her cousin was dabbling in it, her brothers are hardcore users, and her parents allegedly were alcoholics too (Cissy sobered up though).

HotGritz said:

nursev said:

Sad-I'm sure this whole revealing autopsy has been extra rough on her daughter. Poor child. Hopefully she will not fall into the same trap as her mom.

I think she will but not as bad as her mom. The reason I think this is because I believe Bobbi Kris to have a predisposition to alchohol on the count of her daddy being a heavy drinker prior and after her being conceived. She already was caught snorting coke and she still drinks. There are pics of her at the age of 11 holding a bottle of koolaid like it was a 40 ounce. I knew then the girl was in trouble. And I'm only assuming it really was koolaid.

???
What about her mother drinking while carrying her?

Just blame Bobby huh? Whatever happens to Kristina will be his fault too even though she doesn't seem to have him in her life I'm guessing.

MidniteMagnet said:

I've been saying for years that Whitney had dentures because of that whack ass lisp she had going on. But I was proven wrong by this autopsy report! She had a full set of upper dental implants. I should have known that someone with her wealth would go for the better option. I just can't imagine doing so much drugs that your teeth rot out. She must have been so embarrassed walking into the dentist's office.

Where are those pictures with bad teeth? She did it, likely for the same reasons Janet did. Better pictures. I don't think the dental work had anything to do with her drug use.

Timmy84 said:

MidniteMagnet said:

I've been saying for years that Whitney had dentures because of that whack ass lisp she had going on. But I was proven wrong by this autopsy report! She had a full set of upper dental implants. I should have known that someone with her wealth would go for the better option. I just can't imagine doing so much drugs that your teeth rot out. She must have been so embarrassed walking into the dentist's office.

Yeah, once she got off her high she realized she didn't wanna go out like that. I know she wasn't in her right mind when she was on drugs. I mean no one in their right mind would be spotted at an Atlanta gas station department store at 3 in the morning looking as disheveled as she was if they WEREN'T using. My heart still breaks every time I see that pic because I kept going "Whitney, why? Why?"

What is a gas station department store?