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Thread started 04/04/12 3:10pm

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Jack Wagner ~ All I Need

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #1 posted 04/04/12 3:25pm

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Big fan of Jack's 3 albums and have been for many years, but I never liked this song much.

This is much better personally:-

He used producers I like alot on his 80's albums, which is the main reason why I like him LOL.

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Reply #2 posted 04/04/12 3:34pm

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Didn't Quincy Jones have something to do with this record?

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #3 posted 04/04/12 3:42pm

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MickyDolenz said:

Didn't Quincy Jones have something to do with this record?

Yes. His first 3 albums in the 80's were on Quest, which was Quincy's label through WB. A 4th was recorded but Quest refused to release it for whatever reason.

Quincy had his own pool of songwriters and producers back in the 80's, and he assigned Glen Ballard and Clif Magness to produce Jack's first 2 albums, which included the hit "All I need". Ballard of course went on to write "Man in the mirror" with another Quincy staff writer, Siedah Garrett, who even duetted with Jack on "It's what we don't say".

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Reply #4 posted 04/04/12 3:48pm

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thesexofit said:

Big fan of Jack's 3 albums and have been for many years, but I never liked this song much.

This is much better personally:-

He used producers I like alot on his 80's albums, which is the main reason why I like him LOL.

Love Jack's work have all his records, he has a new single out now on iTunes and another album on the way soon. He basically was brought in to kind of help General Hospital score wider audiences when Rick Springfield lef the show in 1982, John Stamos was there but he couldnt sing at all so the show had a pretend band and Jack was the lead singer. Like alot of that first album, really think that "too young" on the second album was a better ballad, as was "lady of my heart" on the first album, love "weatherman says" great great track! always loved this song to death, played it too death on my mix tapes on my walkman....YES walkman back in the day, miss that shit!

Funny that he was kind of compared to Rick Springfield by many even though Rick was actually a singer/musician long before GH and Jessies Girl was not for the "show" Jack was for the show.


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Reply #5 posted 04/04/12 3:49pm

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ah, the days of Frisco Jones, and Tonya (don't remember the actress who played her, but she was very pretty)....around the same time John Stamos was on as Blackie...

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Reply #6 posted 04/04/12 3:53pm

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Jack just got voted off Dancing With The Stars.

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #7 posted 04/04/12 3:53pm

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BlackAdder7 said:

ah, the days of Frisco Jones, and Tonya (don't remember the actress who played her, but she was very pretty)....around the same time John Stamos was on as Blackie...

GH was the shit then... smile

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Reply #8 posted 04/04/12 3:58pm

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BlackAdder7 said:

ah, the days of Frisco Jones, and Tonya (don't remember the actress who played her, but she was very pretty)....around the same time John Stamos was on as Blackie...

GH was the shit then... smile

Yeah i mean Luke and Laura (tony geary and genie francis) were and in his case, still the franchise. I heard Rick Springfield in an interview recently talking about when he auditioned for this show, "he was like, alright, its a steady check" back then those actors were getting scale, about 500 a week for that HIT show, as Rick said "I kept the lights on in my apartment"


"We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F
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Reply #9 posted 04/04/12 4:01pm

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lastdecember said:

thesexofit said:

Big fan of Jack's 3 albums and have been for many years, but I never liked this song much.

This is much better personally:-

He used producers I like alot on his 80's albums, which is the main reason why I like him LOL.

Love Jack's work have all his records, he has a new single out now on iTunes and another album on the way soon. He basically was brought in to kind of help General Hospital score wider audiences when Rick Springfield lef the show in 1982, John Stamos was there but he couldnt sing at all so the show had a pretend band and Jack was the lead singer. Like alot of that first album, really think that "too young" on the second album was a better ballad, as was "lady of my heart" on the first album, love "weatherman says" great great track! always loved this song to death, played it too death on my mix tapes on my walkman....YES walkman back in the day, miss that shit!

Funny that he was kind of compared to Rick Springfield by many even though Rick was actually a singer/musician long before GH and Jessies Girl was not for the "show" Jack was for the show.

Yes I love "weatherman says" too. I also agree the David Foster co-write "lady of my heart" is much better then "All i need". His "Don't forget your day job" is probably in my top 10 of all time LOL. Multiple producers on albums often makes them feel dis-jointed, but I pretty much love every track off that album. Robbie Buchanans work inparticular is great.

Didn't like his "alone in the crowd" album much, but I should revisit it though.

Did you know "weatherman says" is a cover from obscure artist Nick Jameson? His version is just called "Weatherman" but its very similar. Abit more drum programming and a nice use of saxaphone makes his version almost as good. Shame the rest of his album isn't half as good though. Still just prefer Jack's version though, but Nicks version is worth a hunt. I may post it on youtube one of these days...

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Reply #10 posted 04/04/12 4:05pm

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lastdecember said:

Love Jack's work have all his records, he has a new single out now on iTunes and another album on the way soon. He basically was brought in to kind of help General Hospital score wider audiences when Rick Springfield lef the show in 1982, John Stamos was there but he couldnt sing at all so the show had a pretend band and Jack was the lead singer. Like alot of that first album, really think that "too young" on the second album was a better ballad, as was "lady of my heart" on the first album, love "weatherman says" great great track! always loved this song to death, played it too death on my mix tapes on my walkman....YES walkman back in the day, miss that shit!

Funny that he was kind of compared to Rick Springfield by many even though Rick was actually a singer/musician long before GH and Jessies Girl was not for the "show" Jack was for the show.

Yes I love "weatherman says" too. I also agree the David Foster co-write "lady of my heart" is much better then "All i need". His "Don't forget your day job" is probably in my top 10 of all time LOL. Multiple producers on albums often makes them feel dis-jointed, but I pretty much love every track off that album. Robbie Buchanans work inparticular is great.

Didn't like his "alone in the crowd" album much, but I should revisit it though.

Did you know "weatherman says" is a cover from obscure artist Nick Jameson? His version is just called "Weatherman" but its very similar. Abit more drum programming and a nice use of saxaphone makes his version almost as good. Shame the rest of his album isn't half as good though. Still just prefer Jack's version though, but Nicks version is worth a hunt. I may post it on youtube one of these days...

yeah im gonna check out the original have not heard it. Really dig most of Jacks work, shame he got hit with that One Hit Wonder label but, its one more HIT than most of the world will ever have. Good Vocalist, i remember him doing some stuff on the Arsenio show too. I agree on the "alone in the crowd" album totally, not crazy about that one.


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Reply #11 posted 04/04/12 4:10pm

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lastdecember said:

thesexofit said:

Yes I love "weatherman says" too. I also agree the David Foster co-write "lady of my heart" is much better then "All i need". His "Don't forget your day job" is probably in my top 10 of all time LOL. Multiple producers on albums often makes them feel dis-jointed, but I pretty much love every track off that album. Robbie Buchanans work inparticular is great.

Didn't like his "alone in the crowd" album much, but I should revisit it though.

Did you know "weatherman says" is a cover from obscure artist Nick Jameson? His version is just called "Weatherman" but its very similar. Abit more drum programming and a nice use of saxaphone makes his version almost as good. Shame the rest of his album isn't half as good though. Still just prefer Jack's version though, but Nicks version is worth a hunt. I may post it on youtube one of these days...

yeah im gonna check out the original have not heard it. Really dig most of Jacks work, shame he got hit with that One Hit Wonder label but, its one more HIT than most of the world will ever have. Good Vocalist, i remember him doing some stuff on the Arsenio show too. I agree on the "alone in the crowd" album totally, not crazy about that one.

I really like the unreleased track he did with of all people, Ray Parker Jr. I found it on his site years ago and copied it LOL. Theres no songwriting or producer credits, but the song sounds like a Ballard/Magness production and song, but the "rap" by Ray Parker Jr. Not sure you would like it, but it's very, very late 80's. Shame that song (which sounded completely finished) and the rest of the album got canned. It's called "wish you were mine". Think Billy Ocean LOL.

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Ray rapping? Do you mean "hip hop rap" or early 1970's "Baby I'm sorry" style dialogue in the middle of soul songs. That was called "rap" at the time. Be For Real by Harold Melvin & The Blue Notes is a good example of this.

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #13 posted 04/04/12 4:26pm

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MickyDolenz said:

Ray rapping? Do you mean "hip hop rap" or early 1970's "Baby I'm sorry" style dialogue in the middle of soul songs. That was called "rap" at the time. Be For Real by Harold Melvin & The Blue Notes is a good example of this.

Thats why I put the word "rap" in quotes, as it would not be considered a legit rap, but Ray is rapping so to speak.

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