scriptgirl said:

Did Tina ever forgive her mom?

Yup. She was still trying to do right by her momma. Once she got ultra rich on her own merit, she let her mama have the house she was living in. Beforehand I think Ike bought her a home, I think this was after Ike & Tina had went their separate ways.

Wait-Ike beat on Tina and then he bought Tina's mom a house. What kind of sick mofo was he?

scriptgirl said:

Wait-Ike beat on Tina and then he bought Tina's mom a house. What kind of sick mofo was he?

Not that it explains his behavior but Ike Turner was fucked up before 18. This guy got raped before he was 13. So I'm thinking this leaves people with this good/evil complex. There's folks who said how Ike took care of them when they weren't doing well as well as the stories of Ike doing a lot of crazy ass shit.

Timmy84 said:

scriptgirl said:

Wait-Ike beat on Tina and then he bought Tina's mom a house. What kind of sick mofo was he?

Not that it explains his behavior but Ike Turner was fucked up before 18. This guy got raped before he was 13. So I'm thinking this leaves people with this good/evil complex. There's folks who said how Ike took care of them when they weren't doing well as well as the stories of Ike doing a lot of crazy ass shit.

WHAT? WHO DID IT?

Damn all these famous men gettin' raped. WTF kind of world am I living in?

Timmy84 said:

scriptgirl said:

Did Tina ever forgive her mom?

Yup. She was still trying to do right by her momma. Once she got ultra rich on her own merit, she let her mama have the house she was living in. Beforehand I think Ike bought her a home, I think this was after Ike & Tina had went their separate ways.

If my momma sold me to an abusive man I wouldn't spit on her if her ass was on fire.

HotGritz said:

Timmy84 said:

Not that it explains his behavior but Ike Turner was fucked up before 18. This guy got raped before he was 13. So I'm thinking this leaves people with this good/evil complex. There's folks who said how Ike took care of them when they weren't doing well as well as the stories of Ike doing a lot of crazy ass shit.

WHAT? WHO DID IT?

Damn all these famous men gettin' raped. WTF kind of world am I living in?

Some next door neighbor. Apparently she groomed him for sex. Got him to work for her in exchange for sex and money. Ike was molested by two other women before he was 12. Imagine the opening scene in Sweet Sweetback... it was kinda like that but it's still molestation/child rape.

Timmy84 said:

HotGritz said:

WHAT? WHO DID IT?

Damn all these famous men gettin' raped. WTF kind of world am I living in?

Some next door neighbor. Apparently she groomed him for sex. Got him to work for her in exchange for sex and money. Ike was molested by two other women before he was 12. Imagine the opening scene in Sweet Sweetback... it was kinda like that but it's still molestation/child rape.

Disgusting!!!! I never understood a woman having interest in a boy. Not a man in a girl or boy either but with them, all they care about is the hole. With women, wtf are they seeing in a manchild?

Can't believe Im bout to say this but......poor Ike.

HotGritz said:

Timmy84 said:

Some next door neighbor. Apparently she groomed him for sex. Got him to work for her in exchange for sex and money. Ike was molested by two other women before he was 12. Imagine the opening scene in Sweet Sweetback... it was kinda like that but it's still molestation/child rape.

Disgusting!!!! I never understood a woman having interest in a boy. Not a man in a girl or boy either but with them, all they care about is the hole. With women, wtf are they seeing in a manchild?

Can't believe Im bout to say this but......poor Ike.

Crazy thing was he was only six when it first happened. I'm guessing that's a scar that never heals. And it's rare when you hear of women raping little kids but it happens even if it's just rare. But like any man, he excused it as "fun". Shows you how twisted he saw things even what he was doing with Tina.

Timmy84 said:

Anyway...

This is about the musical mfer you don't wanna mess with.

I don't see how she's making excuses though for Ike. All I heard from her when talking about Ike is that she wants to leave it alone...

Back in the day when she was still discussing Ike she would always talk about how bad he had it

growing up. Sounds like excuses to me.

laurarichardson said:

Timmy84 said:

Anyway...

This is about the musical mfer you don't wanna mess with.

I don't see how she's making excuses though for Ike. All I heard from her when talking about Ike is that she wants to leave it alone...

Back in the day when she was still discussing Ike she would always talk about how bad he had it

growing up. Sounds like excuses to me.

Oh OK...

Where were Ike's parents when this was going on?

scriptgirl said:

Where were Ike's parents when this was going on?

I'm guessing the molestation? His dad was dead. His mom had no idea what her boy was doing.

[Edited 3/28/12 18:05pm]

MickyDolenz said:

laurarichardson said:

My point exactly The FBI would have put that mess on the front page of every news paper. We know from people in the civil rights movement Martin had a mistress and we know things were not the great between him and his wife from the get go but hookers and orgies the FBI would have had a field day.

Not really. You have to remember this was the early 1960's and sex wasn't really written about in the newspaper. If folks saw something of that sort in the paper they would have complained about the paper printing filth, especially since children had access to it, as kids had paper routes. The news was serious back then, it's not like the gossip that the news brodcast now. The thing at the time was accusing someone of being a Communist.

[Edited 3/28/12 9:04am]

Have you ever heard of Cointel-Pro? The FBI was planting stories in the media and spreding gossip in the black community to destroy Civil Rights leaders and groups. The FBI called Dr.King house and played those tapes of the other women in the hotel rooms.

The FBI put stories in the paper saying the actress Jean Seaberg had a black baby just because she supported the black panthers and she later committed suicide.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Seberg

laura, can you talk about what you meant re things not being good between Coretta and MLK from jump?

scriptgirl said:

laura, can you talk about what you meant re things not being good between Coretta and MLK from jump?

In the Baptist church a minister has to be married and a lot of times these minister get married for that reason. A lot of gossip about Dr. King and his wife is that Corretta was more Upper Middle Class or at least aspired to be Upper Middle Class and that she did not relate to the working class people that Dr. King had as church members or his decision to live in a modest home.

Dr. King also had a different take on vices than his Dad. The story goes that when Daddy King would vist Martin at the seminary he would get upset to see Martin playing pool and smoking cigarettes but Martin felt that these were just actions that had nothing do with sin. In addtion, Dr. King also wanted to be a socialogist and was told he was going to be a minister by his dad.

I mention all of this to point out that you may have had a man who was not perpared for being married or being a minister.

Some of this info comes from "Parting the Waters by Dave Garrow.

Thanks, Laura. I always felt that Coretta was a Jack and Jillish type and Martin was not of that

duccichucka said:

Ike Turner whupped her ass so well, she still carrying that ni99a's last name.

Now that's control there

This damned thread ! This has to be in the running for one of the top NPM&M forum threads of the year, and we ain't even hit April yet

This is even better than the last Unsung threads!

[Edited 3/29/12 2:41am]

I'm glad I started it my damn self.

HuMpThAnG said:

duccichucka said:

Ike Turner whupped her ass so well, she still carrying that ni99a's last name.

Now that's control there

Actually, she jacked his name so well, he still can not get it back.

allsmutaside said:

HuMpThAnG said:

Now that's control there

Actually, she jacked his name so well, he still can not get it back.

laurarichardson said:

MickyDolenz said:

Not really. You have to remember this was the early 1960's and sex wasn't really written about in the newspaper. If folks saw something of that sort in the paper they would have complained about the paper printing filth, especially since children had access to it, as kids had paper routes. The news was serious back then, it's not like the gossip that the news brodcast now. The thing at the time was accusing someone of being a Communist.

[Edited 3/28/12 9:04am]

Have you ever heard of Cointel-Pro? The FBI was planting stories in the media and spreding gossip in the black community to destroy Civil Rights leaders and groups. The FBI called Dr.King house and played those tapes of the other women in the hotel rooms.

The FBI put stories in the paper saying the actress Jean Seaberg had a black baby just because she supported the black panthers and she later committed suicide.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Seberg

The FBI are the worst gangsters of all.

No, honey, that's the CIA

duccichucka said:

Ike Turner whupped her ass so well, she still carrying that ni99a's last name.

Yep... Tina got nerve... If a man whipped me for so many years I would have got rid of it. She wanted to keep it because she considered it to be her stage name.