petes2 said:

Spinlight said:

I'm giving Pat Houston the side-eye.

1) Because of the fact Whitney had been using cocaine. Nobody's gonna convince me Pat did not know that, sorry.

2) Because of that stupid OWN interview. Bobbi-Kristina no doubt got paid a shit load of money for that gig and you can tell because it's written all over her face. That wasn't a young woman who wanted to set the record straight, it was a young woman who was over-the-top thankful to Oprah for paying her to tell us about her mom. Notice that Oprah lead the entire interview, sometimes both initiating a question and ANSWERING IT FOR HER when B-K couldn't string together a coherent sentence. Bobbi-Kristina's thank you at the end to Oprah was so over the top that they may as well have filmed her signing the check over to Pat. Get real, ladies!! This Whitney shit is all out in the open yet everyone pretends it doesn't exist!

Don't know much about Pat, so sure, her too, anyone taking a part in the leeching off of someone else's life deserves that. The Bobbi interview looked wrong, she was standing up, as if oprah walked in on her, it had the effect of making me unsettled as I watched it. Something was definitely askew. That they all make money I guesss doesn't surprise me, I happen to think Bobbi is nearly doomed from the git go given her addictive parents, her addiction and now the crazy media will be messing her young head up before she has anymore of a chance. Sad.

Exactly!! Oh man, I kept waiting for them to sit down? It almost felt like B-K wanted to sit down but Oprah never quite made the overture. It felt really strange. I mean, take 5 steps and sit down. What's with the surprise effect? And Pat standing in the background, looming like a gargoyle behind O.

What a clown parade.

Krissy didn't wanna do the interview but only did it probably for money. Krissy seem at edge during the interview... And Pat was all in the back of Harpo...

Timmy84 said:

Krissy didn't wanna do the interview but only did it probably for money. Krissy seem at edge during the interview... And Pat was all in the back of Harpo...

What is with the thank you? At the end, B-K's thank you, it's like she was a half step away from saying "Thanks for the money."

Spinlight said:

petes2 said:

i'm giving Oprah the side eye, I thought that bitch retired! It was way too soon to be ambushing a young, dumb (all of us are dumb at that age) kid like that. Tasteless, sickening, oppurtunistic and completely unneccesary.

I'm giving Pat Houston the side-eye.

1) Because of the fact Whitney had been using cocaine. Nobody's gonna convince me Pat did not know that, sorry.

2) Because of that stupid OWN interview. Bobbi-Kristina no doubt got paid a shit load of money for that gig and you can tell because it's written all over her face. That wasn't a young woman who wanted to set the record straight, it was a young woman who was over-the-top thankful to Oprah for paying her to tell us about her mom. Notice that Oprah lead the entire interview, sometimes both initiating a question and ANSWERING IT FOR HER when B-K couldn't string together a coherent sentence. Bobbi-Kristina's thank you at the end to Oprah was so over the top that they may as well have filmed her signing the check over to Pat. Get real, ladies!! This Whitney shit is all out in the open yet everyone pretends it doesn't exist!

Not to mention that Oprah also did that shit for her ratings on her failing network to go through the roof, which she did succeed at. The shitty interview was the highest rated show on her network since it debuted in Jan. 2011.

Bobby Brown's sister believes Ray J was Whitney's "runner boy".

^And now Ray J is firing back at Leola's claims

RAY J I Had NO IDEA Whitney Was Doing Coke

Houston died from drowning, coroner says

By ANTHONY McCARTNEY | Associated Press – 1 hr 41 mins ago

LOS ANGELES (AP) — Whitney Houston was a chronic cocaine user who had the drug in her system when she drowned in a hotel bathtub, coroner's officials said Thursday after releasing autopsy findings that also noted heart disease contributed to her death.

The disclosure ended weeks of speculation about what killed the Grammy-winning singer on Feb. 11 on the eve of the Grammy Awards.

Houston was found submerged in the bathtub of her room at the Beverly Hilton Hotel, and her death was ruled accidental. Several bottles of prescription medications were found in her hotel room, but coroner's officials said there weren't excessive quantities.

"We are saddened to learn of the toxicology results, although we are glad to now have closure," Patricia Houston, the singer's sister-in-law and manager, wrote in a statement to The Associated Press.

Beverly Hills police said in a statement there was no evidence of wrongdoing in connection with Houston's death.

Coroner's Chief of Operations Craig Harvey said cocaine and its byproducts were found in Houston's system, and the drug was listed as a contributing factor in her death. He said the results indicated Houston was a chronic cocaine user.

Toxicology results also showed Houston had marijuana, Xanax, the muscle relaxant Flexeril, and the allergy medication Benadryl in her system. Houston died just hours before she was scheduled to appear at producer Clive Davis' pre-Grammy Awards bash.

The singer also had buildup of plaque in her arteries that can restrict blood flow. Assistant Chief Coroner Ed Winter said the condition is common in drug users, although he said it wasn't clear whether Houston had a heart attack on the day she died.

"It just beats up their heart and they will go to use and they will have a heart attack," he said.

The exact amount of cocaine in Houston's system was not disclosed Thursday but will be contained in a full autopsy report to be released in about two weeks, officials said.

Cocaine use has been known to cause damage to the heart and could have cause Houston's death, said Dr. Michael Fishbein, professor of pathology at the David Geffen School of Medicine at UCLA. He had no role in the investigation.

He said a likely scenario was that Houston's cocaine use interfered with the normal function of her heart.

"There's no reason to drown in a bathtub unless you're incapacitated," Fishbein said.

Family and friends said after Houston's death that they didn't believe she was still abusing drugs.

"I don't think drugs was an issue for her before her death. I don't know what happened that day," Patricia Houston said in a recent interview with Oprah Winfrey.

Houston, 48, was buried in a New Jersey cemetery next to her father after an emotional four-hour funeral service that was attended by friends, family and superstars such as Oprah Winfrey, Tyler Perry, Alicia Keys, Mariah Carey, Mary J. Blige, Jennifer Hudson and Roberta Flack

Houston, a sensation from her first, eponymous album in 1985, was one of the world's best-selling artists from the mid-1980s to the late 1990s, turning out such hits as "I Wanna Dance With Somebody," ''How Will I Know," ''The Greatest Love of All" and "I Will Always Love You." But as she struggled with drugs, her majestic voice became raspy, and she couldn't hit the high notes.

Interest in her music skyrocketed after her death, pushing her songs back on to charts and into heavy rotation on the radio.

She influenced a generation of younger singers, from Christina Aguilera to Mariah Carey, but Houston's drug use derailed her career and took a heavy toll on her once pristine voice.

But by the end of her career, she was a stunning cautionary tale of the toll of drug use. Her album sales plummeted and the hits stopped coming. Her once serene image was shattered by a wild demeanor and bizarre public appearances. She confessed to abusing cocaine, marijuana and pills and was eventually unable to hit the high notes as she had during her prime.

"The biggest devil is me. I'm either my best friend or my worst enemy," Houston told ABC's Diane Sawyer in an infamous 2002 television interview with then-husband Bobby Brown by her side.

She had been attempting a comeback when she died. She had finished filming a remake of the movie "Sparkle" in which Houston sang the gospel hymn "His Eye is on the Sparrow." Producers of the film have said the singer was a complete professional on the set.

http://news.yahoo.com/hou...27189.html

NaughtyKitty said:

^And now Ray J is firing back at Leola's claims

RAY J I Had NO IDEA Whitney Was Doing Coke

Ray J is pissed that people are accusing him of being Whitney's enabler and, even worse, fueling her with the fatal dose of cocaine.

Ray J's rep tells TMZ ... the singer had NO KNOWLEDGE that Whitney was using again.

The rep says Ray J is especially upset at claims made by Bobby Brown's sister, Leolah Brown, who went on TV Thursday night and suggested Ray J was to blame for Whitney's demise. Ray J says the claim is absolute B.S.

We're told Ray J wasn't even around Whitney the day she died. He was in San Diego.

What a mess

HotGritz said:

I TOLD Y'ALL I TOLD Y'ALL. IT WAS EITHER GOING TO BE DROWNING OR HEART ATTACK.

But watch the skeptics focus solely on her having cocaine in her system. Critics continue to refer to her as "junkie" and "crack whore" and the news of Ray J possibly having a sex tape with Nippy does not help matters.

Gawd, why can't they let this woman RIP and remember the beatiful music and fun films she left behind. Its not like she hurt anybody damn.

?

Her death did.

I don't know why people are surprised that cocaine was found in her. The only people that be surprised are the ones that were argueing people down that she was no longer using drugs.

lazycrockett said:

^ I would say that with todays tech you can find traces of coke no matter how much someone wiped it away. Then again @ the Beverly Hotel you could probably get a buzz by sniffing the carpets.

Co-sign.

Like Timmy said, cocaine is detectable for three days after ingestion. We don't know when Whitney was around cocaine. It could've been the night before when she was out partying.

If it still in your system, it still has the potential to cause interactions. Usually no one considers that when they get up the next day.

RnBAmbassador said:

Her trip to LA was a game changer in a downward spiral:

drinking

erractic behavior

public seeing her at her worst

rejected by two doctors (one for plastic surgery, the other for throat repair of her vocal cords)

major financial problems

altercation at club with Stacy Francis

spat with Ray J (he igged her after the incident at the club that Wednesday with Francis)

her saying she wanted to go see Jesus

her screaming on her balcony that she can't do this shit anymore

sounds like suicide to me, and even those that don't think so - all the drugs in her, the drinking, the chain smoking = SUICIDE one way or the other

musicjunky318 said:

It wasn't suicide. Why would she fly all the way to LA for the Grammys to commit suicide? She was ready to party. If she wanted to kill herself she could have stayed home. Whitney lived in Atlanta right?

So your opinion on the subject is final?

Suicide is with intent. Nothing suggests her death was intentional.

Being self-destructive is not necessarily being suicidal especially if you don't see your behavior as self-destructive.

NaughtyKitty said:

^And now Ray J is firing back at Leola's claims

RAY J I Had NO IDEA Whitney Was Doing Coke

Ray J is pissed that people are accusing him of being Whitney's enabler and, even worse, fueling her with the fatal dose of cocaine.

Ray J's rep tells TMZ ... the singer had NO KNOWLEDGE that Whitney was using again.

The rep says Ray J is especially upset at claims made by Bobby Brown's sister, Leolah Brown, who went on TV Thursday night and suggested Ray J was to blame for Whitney's demise. Ray J says the claim is absolute B.S.

We're told Ray J wasn't even around Whitney the day she died. He was in San Diego.

Uh, do they expect us to be that forgetful? We remember when the story changed from Ray J was there when she died, to Ray "the bodyguard".

Timmy84 said:

lazycrockett said:

^ I would say that with todays tech you can find traces of coke no matter how much someone wiped it away. Then again @ the Beverly Hotel you could probably get a buzz by sniffing the carpets.

That may be why certain items were removed from the room if the report is accurate. I heard the person removed bed spreads from the bed and other items.

????

I think the police would have a problem with that. If they left the alcohol and pills in the room why remove the bed spread? Makes no sense.

Timmy84 said:

lazycrockett said:

Throw in the fact that they left the body in the hotel room for hours on end, you don't know who was going in and out.

Good point. I'm beginning to wonder if Whitney's camp didn't want her out yet or the cops in. I think I read on the night of her death that the cops and authorities were actually forced to wait several hours before entering the scene!

Just how do you do that?

The police don't have to wait on the hotel or anyone in the room to gain entrance. They don't need an invite. Once the police arrived they would have secured the scene.

If all this clean up was oging on, why was the food, alcohol, pills etc untouched? If you are cleaning the scene, and have hours to do so . . . . .

prodigalfan said:

Spinlight said:

Lil pointless now to throw stones at a corpse, babe.

right. And why call her a female dog? She was a woman. Someone's mother, someone's daughter. A child of God (as her mother reminded people).

Just very harsh. I hope you never have to hear anyone talk about Ava that way.

Most men I know refer to women that way. So do plenty of women. That at all uncommon.

NaughtyKitty said:

^And now Ray J is firing back at Leola's claims

RAY J I Had NO IDEA Whitney Was Doing Coke

Ray J is pissed that people are accusing him of being Whitney's enabler and, even worse, fueling her with the fatal dose of cocaine.

Ray J's rep tells TMZ ... the singer had NO KNOWLEDGE that Whitney was using again.

The rep says Ray J is especially upset at claims made by Bobby Brown's sister, Leolah Brown, who went on TV Thursday night and suggested Ray J was to blame for Whitney's demise. Ray J says the claim is absolute B.S.

We're told Ray J wasn't even around Whitney the day she died. He was in San Diego.

I'm not trying to be prosecutor or anything but wasn't there pics of him discreetly leaving the hotel later that same night after her passing? He was supposed to be distraught because he couldn't see her. I could've sworn there were pics of him leaving the BH Hilton.

Even if there is proof that he was her "runner boy" or supplier and that he supplied the lethel dose whether earlier that day or before. He could'nt be arrested anyway. Her death is officially ruled as accidental drowning, as a result from heart disease and cocaine not homicide.

SUPRMAN said:

Timmy84 said:

Good point. I'm beginning to wonder if Whitney's camp didn't want her out yet or the cops in. I think I read on the night of her death that the cops and authorities were actually forced to wait several hours before entering the scene!

Just how do you do that?

The police don't have to wait on the hotel or anyone in the room to gain entrance. They don't need an invite. Once the police arrived they would have secured the scene.

If all this clean up was oging on, why was the food, alcohol, pills etc untouched? If you are cleaning the scene, and have hours to do so . . . . .

If anything was removed it happened before the paramedics arrived.. cause once they declared her dead there is nothing the family could have done to prevent the cops from entering. plus we know this isnt the case because Bobby Kris who was in the hotel got in to a shouting match with the cops because she couldn't get in to see her mother and she was right there in the hotel..

MadamGoodnight said:

prodigalfan said:

Very little reversal. It is really sad to see an former addict who lived hard in his 20s and 30s then reforms... find a good woman, find God, become born again and all that. Then in his 60s... all that stuff he did to his body in his 20s and 30s come back to slap him in the face.

Seen many people dependent on oxygen because their heart is so damaged that they are short of breath all the time.

This made me think of Natalie Cole.

lazycrockett said:

No one was making Whitney roll up a Jackson and snort blow, smoke weed, drink, and pop pills.

You work for Whitney you do what the Boss wants. Do you clean up the mess afterwards to protect yourself when your boss is floating dead in a tub, Hell yeah.

Call people shady all you want, but shady people is all Whitney wanted around her.

Musicslave said:

Bobby Brown's sister believes Ray J was Whitney's "runner boy".

Even though what she says seems accurate. I wouldn't trust anyone that was around Whitney. They all are getting paid to do these interviews. Including her suppose Godaughter...

Timmy84 said:

Krissy didn't wanna do the interview but only did it probably for money. Krissy seem at edge during the interview... And Pat was all in the back of Harpo...

Oprah always says she doesn't pay for interviews. I've heard her say that MANY times, so why now all of a sudden is she paying? Areyou sure Bobby Kriss was paid?

SUPRMAN said:

lazycrockett said:

^ I would say that with todays tech you can find traces of coke no matter how much someone wiped it away. Then again @ the Beverly Hotel you could probably get a buzz by sniffing the carpets.

Co-sign.

Like Timmy said, cocaine is detectable for three days after ingestion. We don't know when Whitney was around cocaine. It could've been the night before when she was out partying.

If it still in your system, it still has the potential to cause interactions. Usually no one considers that when they get up the next day.

On TMZ, the coroner said that she had an ACUTE amount of cocaine in her system and that the amount indicated that she had taken it right before dying.

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Musicslave said:

Bobby Brown's sister believes Ray J was Whitney's "runner boy".

Even though what she says seems accurate. I wouldn't trust anyone that was around Whitney. They all are getting paid to do these interviews. Including her suppose Godaughter...

Na, I don't trust her or anybody else speaking about her death. I just posted it to show how everybody is coming out the woodwork now for their shine and money.

lauralevesque said:

Timmy84 said:

Krissy didn't wanna do the interview but only did it probably for money. Krissy seem at edge during the interview... And Pat was all in the back of Harpo...

Oprah always says she doesn't pay for interviews. I've heard her say that MANY times, so why now all of a sudden is she paying? Areyou sure Bobby Kriss was paid?

I dont trust Oprah from around the corner....

nursev said:

Accidental drowning my ass I think Whitney committed suicide, but call it what you want.

I've always felt that Whitney probably lost some of her will to go on after that last tour, when it became apparent to the world that she had lost her ability to sing (...for the most part). I've always seen Whitney as a very strong woman, with a strong ego, and can easily see how all those YouTube clips of her final performances in Europe could have been completely humiliating to her, knowing they could never be erased. Although, I don't exactly feel like she stepped into the tub that night and said to herself "I'm gonna drown myself!", I do feel like she had become reckless to some degree, and probably didn't care much if she lived or died.

And while the combination of all those other drugs may not have been directly related to her death, I feel it was enough to have sufficiently retarded her natural reflexes, to have prevented her from bringing herself up out of that water once she had begun to drown.

I just wish our discussing what may or may not have happened to Whitney had the power to bring her back.

SUPRMAN said:

prodigalfan said:

right. And why call her a female dog? She was a woman. Someone's mother, someone's daughter. A child of God (as her mother reminded people).

Just very harsh. I hope you never have to hear anyone talk about Ava that way.

Most men I know refer to women that way. So do plenty of women. That at all uncommon.

[Edited 3/23/12 9:41am]

Whitney Houston Cause of Death: How Cocaine Contributes to Heart Disease

Spinlight said:

Timmy84 said:

Krissy didn't wanna do the interview but only did it probably for money. Krissy seem at edge during the interview... And Pat was all in the back of Harpo...

What is with the thank you? At the end, B-K's thank you, it's like she was a half step away from saying "Thanks for the money."

I agree. I never got that part. Only thing that I can make sense of with that is "thanks for whatever hundreds of thousands you gave me, Ms. Winfrey" is all I got from it...