HotGritz said:

^ maybe the cocaine is a false reading. i would be interested to see the amount she had in her system. I'm not ready to accept that she was wilfully using just days or even hours before her death. I mean she was with Ray J and aint no telling what he may have done, anticipating some fun times with his girl no less. Yeah I'm calling foul on Ray cuz its well known how he and his boys get down when it comes to drink and drugs. Plus how are you going to trust some scrub that routinely makes sex tapes with the women he beds.

I doubt it's false. Rick James was using cocaine at the time of his death too but he died of pulmonary disease. You could still use cocaine and die of something else.

banks said:

toots said:

Pot can be a muscle relaxer for many, Xanax is a anti depressant ( it relaxes the body as well) and Flexeril is also a muscle relaxer for muscle spasms( took i t for my rotated shoulder cuff). I used to take Flexeril and Xanax but not same time... both of those made me a zombie and i slept too much so i took myself off of both..so yeah i can see if it was in her body at time of death she may have took them both and it hit her that fast.. so in a way it was an d was no t a accident... it does say on side of bottle aka warning lables will make u drowsy/sleepy.

Well being that the coroner said that they weren't a factor in her death I'm guessing there wasn't enough in her system to make her pass out..

please mix it with alchohol AND cocaine and its a deadly mix i dont care who say sit isnt even alchohol is a relaxant as well as cocaine read up on all those meds then get back to me .. i can tell u now even it takes awhile for ANY drug to get out of ur system doc prescribed or not th e Benedryl is even a over the counter drug it has side effects too like all drugs do especially pot

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that's wierd, I thought they said that drowning wasn't the reason and that there wasn't enough water in her lungs for her to drown. I still don't understand what they are saying at all. Are they saying she had a heart attack and went underwater? Are they saying she fell asleep and that her system caused a heart attack after she went underwater? I don't see how a heart condition could be a contributory factor in how she drowns unless the hearts in too bad a shape to fight back. The drugs don't surprise me sadly.

banks said:

toots said:

Pot can be a muscle relaxer for many, Xanax is a anti depressant ( it relaxes the body as well) and Flexeril is also a muscle relaxer for muscle spasms( took i t for my rotated shoulder cuff). I used to take Flexeril and Xanax but not same time... both of those made me a zombie and i slept too much so i took myself off of both..so yeah i can see if it was in her body at time of death she may have took them both and it hit her that fast.. so in a way it was an d was no t a accident... it does say on side of bottle aka warning lables will make u drowsy/sleepy.

Well being that the coroner said that they weren't a factor in her death I'm guessing there wasn't enough in her system to make her pass out..

The point is she was still on it.

petes2 said:

that's wierd, I thought they said that drowning wasn't the reason and that there wasn't enough water in her lungs for her to drown. I still don't understand what they are saying at all. Are they saying she had a heart attack and went underwater? Are they saying she fell asleep and that her system caused a heart attack after she went underwater? I don't see how a heart condition could be a contributory factor in how she drowns unless the hearts in too bad a shape to fight back. The drugs don't surprise me sadly.

I think someone would say that wasn't the cause because they themselves hadn't fully investigated it. I think a reason toxicology reports took a long time because they wanted to be for sure what it was. What I didn't get is why he flat out said "it wasn't drowning". Almost like he WANTED it to be a cocaine or pill overdose...

musicjunky318 said:

banks said:

Well being that the coroner said that they weren't a factor in her death I'm guessing there wasn't enough in her system to make her pass out..

The point is she was still on it.

Right. So she definitely relapsed.

petes2 said:

that's wierd, I thought they said that drowning wasn't the reason and that there wasn't enough water in her lungs for her to drown. I still don't understand what they are saying at all. Are they saying she had a heart attack and went underwater? Are they saying she fell asleep and that her system caused a heart attack after she went underwater? I don't see how a heart condition could be a contributory factor in how she drowns unless the hearts in too bad a shape to fight back. The drugs don't surprise me sadly.

A body can only take so much abuse. You can repair some of it in time, but not all of it. When you inundate your system with cocaine and crack and hard liquor for a very long period of uninterrupted time, it is very difficult to avoid permanent damage.

Given she continued to drink (and apparently continued to dabble in booger sugar), her heart simply gave up. It must not have taken too much to put her under. She had taken pills and drank in excess within the last 24 hours of her death.

The fnal Xanax and beer and wine were just enough to lightly dust the poor camel's back and down she went.

She will be missed forever.

Truly sad-hope she is resting in peace now.

Spinlight said:

petes2 said:

that's wierd, I thought they said that drowning wasn't the reason and that there wasn't enough water in her lungs for her to drown. I still don't understand what they are saying at all. Are they saying she had a heart attack and went underwater? Are they saying she fell asleep and that her system caused a heart attack after she went underwater? I don't see how a heart condition could be a contributory factor in how she drowns unless the hearts in too bad a shape to fight back. The drugs don't surprise me sadly.

A body can only take so much abuse. You can repair some of it in time, but not all of it. When you inundate your system with cocaine and crack and hard liquor for a very long period of uninterrupted time, it is very difficult to avoid permanent damage.

Given she continued to drink (and apparently continued to dabble in booger sugar), her heart simply gave up. It must not have taken too much to put her under. She had taken pills and drank in excess within the last 24 hours of her death.

The fnal Xanax and beer and wine were just enough to lightly dust the poor camel's back and down she went.

She will be missed forever.

You pretty much broke it down. What happened with Whitney is more simple than people wanna believe. I'm getting tired of the conspiracy theories...

Coke, weed, Xanex and Benedryl? Damn! That's enough to kill King Kong!!!!

musicjunky318 said:

banks said:

Well being that the coroner said that they weren't a factor in her death I'm guessing there wasn't enough in her system to make her pass out..

The point is she was still on it.

I wasn't refering to Cocaine if that's what your talking about.

petes2 said:

that's wierd, I thought they said that drowning wasn't the reason and that there wasn't enough water in her lungs for her to drown. I still don't understand what they are saying at all. Are they saying she had a heart attack and went underwater? Are they saying she fell asleep and that her system caused a heart attack after she went underwater? I don't see how a heart condition could be a contributory factor in how she drowns unless the hearts in too bad a shape to fight back. The drugs don't surprise me sadly.

case scenerio: she could of took them passed out then from shock of it all had a heart attack...OR the heart attack could of happened from all the drugs slowing down her heart enough to stop it then she could of landed in the bathtub as the body gave out...an d as sh e took her last breath inhaled enough water in her lungs

Timmy84 said:

musicjunky318 said:

The point is she was still on it.

Right. So she definitely relapsed.

I was not talking about Cocaine i was talking about the other drugs that they listed ( the ones that he said weren't a factor in her death)

kitbradley said:

Coke, weed, Xanex and Benedryl? Damn! That's enough to kill King Kong!!!!

add flexeril as well yeah enough to kill King Kong AND Godzilla

As a nurse, Benadryl alone is enough to cause sedation. One should never take it and then take a bath Hell I took it for a skin breakout, went to sleep and 6 hours later I drove and hit a pole It is nothing to fuck with. Add cocaine and Xanax and it's a done deal. Accidental drowning my ass I think Whitney committed suicide, but call it what you want.

banks said:

Timmy84 said:

Right. So she definitely relapsed.

I was not talking about Cocaine i was talking about the other drugs that they listed ( the ones that he said weren't a factor in her death)

Prescription drugs can lead to addiction too. Bottom line she was still using. That's all I'm saying.

toots said:

petes2 said:

that's wierd, I thought they said that drowning wasn't the reason and that there wasn't enough water in her lungs for her to drown. I still don't understand what they are saying at all. Are they saying she had a heart attack and went underwater? Are they saying she fell asleep and that her system caused a heart attack after she went underwater? I don't see how a heart condition could be a contributory factor in how she drowns unless the hearts in too bad a shape to fight back. The drugs don't surprise me sadly.

case scenerio: she could of took them passed out then from shock of it all had a heart attack...OR the heart attack could of happened from all the drugs slowing down her heart enough to stop it then she could of landed in the bathtub as the body gave out...an d as sh e took her last breath inhaled enough water in her lungs

That is what I always believed. When I heard what she had been taking, I said, "I can see how she would drown like that (accidentally of course)."

A source connected to the investigation tells us it is "very possible" Whitney had a heart attack that caused her to lose consciousness and drown. The heart attack may have been triggered by hardening of the arteries as a result of cocaine use.

It's definitely believeable this is what happened...

nursev said:

As a nurse, Benadryl alone is enough to cause sedation. One should never take it and then take a bath Hell I took it for a skin breakout, went to sleep and 6 hours later I drove and hit a pole It is nothing to fuck with. Add cocaine and Xanax and it's a done deal. Accidental drowning my ass I think Whitney committed suicide, but call it what you want.

I agree with u nurse..i have some medical background as well...this imho sounds like a cover up for a suicide ..

And if you want to shorten your life span, using cocaine while living with heart disease is one more way of quickening your death.

So with this revelation we can go two ways. The comeback in 2009....Whitney herself was continuing to lie about being clean or Arista, Clive, etc. knew there was a problem but pushed her in the spotlight anyway simply to make a buck - telling everybody she was fine when they knew damn well she wasn't.

musicjunky318 said:

So with this revelation we can go two ways. The comeback in 2009....Whitney herself was continuing to lie about being clean or Arista, Clive, etc. knew there was a problem but pushed her in the spotlight anyway simply to make a buck - telling everybody she was fine when they knew damn well she wasn't.

You know I saw some of her performances from the "comeback year"... girl was out of it then.

Timmy84 said:

Spinlight said:

A body can only take so much abuse. You can repair some of it in time, but not all of it. When you inundate your system with cocaine and crack and hard liquor for a very long period of uninterrupted time, it is very difficult to avoid permanent damage.

Given she continued to drink (and apparently continued to dabble in booger sugar), her heart simply gave up. It must not have taken too much to put her under. She had taken pills and drank in excess within the last 24 hours of her death.

The fnal Xanax and beer and wine were just enough to lightly dust the poor camel's back and down she went.

She will be missed forever.

You pretty much broke it down. What happened with Whitney is more simple than people wanna believe. I'm getting tired of the conspiracy theories...

fuck the conspiracy theories just put it in plain english. To this day and for many years people didn't know how elvis died exactly. Doctors don't know everything but instead of telling us that they hid behind big words. I've heard Elvis died of Anaphylactic shock, well, tell us what role the drugs were then. First whiteney didn't drown now she did. I understand that the body can only take so much abuse but put the shit in english. People can't understand all the contributing this and that. So, was it a heart attack? does that mean that she would or wouldn't have died if she weren't in the tub. it's confusing.

toots said:

nursev said:

As a nurse, Benadryl alone is enough to cause sedation. One should never take it and then take a bath Hell I took it for a skin breakout, went to sleep and 6 hours later I drove and hit a pole It is nothing to fuck with. Add cocaine and Xanax and it's a done deal. Accidental drowning my ass I think Whitney committed suicide, but call it what you want.

I agree with u nurse..i have some medical background as well...this imho sounds like a cover up for a suicide ..

I've seen 2mg of Xanax knock 300 lb men on their ass so add a couple of xanax pills to Benadryl and Respirations slow down add some Cocaine and you will fucking die-real talk. The woman had to know that after all these years of drug addiction-she wanted to die.

Identity said:

And if you want to shorten your life span, using cocaine while living with heart disease is one more way of quickening your death.

Timmy84 said:

musicjunky318 said:

So with this revelation we can go two ways. The comeback in 2009....Whitney herself was continuing to lie about being clean or Arista, Clive, etc. knew there was a problem but pushed her in the spotlight anyway simply to make a buck - telling everybody she was fine when they knew damn well she wasn't.

You know I saw some of her performances from the "comeback year"... girl was out of it then.

There's not a single performance from that era that I enjoyed wholeheartedly. They were all either cringeworthy or verging on cringeworthy.

petes2 said:

Timmy84 said:

You pretty much broke it down. What happened with Whitney is more simple than people wanna believe. I'm getting tired of the conspiracy theories...

fuck the conspiracy theories just put it in plain english. To this day and for many years people didn't know how elvis died exactly. Doctors don't know everything but instead of telling us that they hid behind big words. I've heard Elvis died of Anaphylactic shock, well, tell us what role the drugs were then. First whiteney didn't drown now she did. I understand that the body can only take so much abuse but put the shit in english. People can't understand all the contributing this and that. So, was it a heart attack? does that mean that she would or wouldn't have died if she weren't in the tub. it's confusing.

Elvis, I always believed, died from heart disease brought on by years of prescription drug abuse. His system definitely read a whole cocktail of drugs in his system. Whitney's heart was weakening from drug abuse, not only cocaine, but prescription drugs and alcohol also. It's possible all that partying and abuse to your body gives out and suddenly you enter a tub or something and you drown. That's how Jim Morrison died. Jim Morrison was partying and smoking cocaine and heroin the night before his death, then he went to take a bath and died of an accidental drowning. But folks wanna think either he was killed by his girlfriend or he's still alive in Paris, which is hogwash. It seemed that Whitney went out like Jim in this scenario. Sad.

nursev said:

toots said:

I agree with u nurse..i have some medical background as well...this imho sounds like a cover up for a suicide ..

I've seen 2mg of Xanax knock 300 lb men on their ass so add a couple of xanax pills to Benadryl and Respirations slow down add some Cocaine and you will fucking die-real talk. The woman had to know that after all these years of drug addiction-she wanted to die.

add Flexeril to the mix and yeah and ur talking a great long sleep possibly death

Put simply, I think she had a massive heart attack, which killed her. Her body then slid underwater.

I don't think she took her own life because she longed to be with her daughter forever. She abused drugs and met a bitter end.

toots said:

nursev said:

I've seen 2mg of Xanax knock 300 lb men on their ass so add a couple of xanax pills to Benadryl and Respirations slow down add some Cocaine and you will fucking die-real talk. The woman had to know that after all these years of drug addiction-she wanted to die.

add Flexeril to the mix and yeah and ur talking a great long sleep possibly death

every muscle is the body relaxes including the chest wall/diaphragm Certain death. Not to forget the time it takes for the body to metabolize these drugs. Death Cocktail.