I want Tina to get it. Babyface is a good choice, but his music sounds really, really dated and that style of music he does isn't coming back.

daPrettyman said:

Who else would you guys like to see get it?

Kathleen Battle or Jessye Norman.

trelljj said:

musicjunky318 said:

Her brothers should give her the award at the end.

I would love for her brothers, or debbie allen or her sister rebbie or jimmy jam and terry lewis

BET should have gave the lifetime achievement award to Michael in 2010. That would have been the perfect time to do it... I think he still deserves one despite all the tributes

Give it 5 more years when Janet turns 50... then she should get it. I think Tina, Aretha, Etta or Teena are female candidates to get it before then. For the Males: WAR, Temptations, Sly Family Stone, Teddy, Marvin Gaye, Stevie Wonder, Michael Jackson .. there are alot that should receive it before J.

scriptgirl said:

I want Tina to get it. Babyface is a good choice, but his music sounds really, really dated and that style of music he does isn't coming back.

Tina Turner is a good choice, but I don't think Tina would show up for an award like this. Especially since she is not extremely popular among black music fans. She never really was.

I see your point about Babyface, but I still think he and LA Reid deserve their credit.

Teddy Riley would be a good choice to me also.

scriptgirl said:

I want Tina to get it. Babyface is a good choice, but his music sounds really, really dated and that style of music he does isn't coming back.

Tina turned it down several years ago..she seems as if the BET awards isn't good enough so yeah

mjscarousal said:

trelljj said:

I would love for her brothers, or debbie allen or her sister rebbie or jimmy jam and terry lewis

BET should have gave the lifetime achievement award to Michael in 2010. That would have been the perfect time to do it... I think he still deserves one despite all the tributes

Give it 5 more years when Janet turns 50... then she should get it. I think Tina, Aretha, Etta or Teena are female candidates to get it before then. For the Males: WAR, Temptations, Sly Family Stone, Teddy, Marvin Gaye, Stevie Wonder, Michael Jackson .. there are alot that should receive it before J.

You have great choices, but I think BET likes to celebrate the popular people that are still living. I don't see them doing Marvin Gaye, Teddy P, etc.

I like the idea of WAR getting it also. Imagine if all of the original memeber could get back together and perform. George Lopez would love to be a presenter.

mjscarousal said:

trelljj said:

I would love for her brothers, or debbie allen or her sister rebbie or jimmy jam and terry lewis

BET should have gave the lifetime achievement award to Michael in 2010. That would have been the perfect time to do it... I think he still deserves one despite all the tributes

Give it 5 more years when Janet turns 50... then she should get it. I think Tina, Aretha, Etta or Teena are female candidates to get it before then. For the Males: WAR, Temptations, Sly Family Stone, Teddy, Marvin Gaye, Stevie Wonder, Michael Jackson .. there are alot that should receive it before J.

BET awards dont give out lifetime achievement awards for artist who have already passed.... just a tribute or a montage so teena, etta marvin teddy are all out..and tina turned it down so she is out...

daPrettyman said:

scriptgirl said:

I want Tina to get it. Babyface is a good choice, but his music sounds really, really dated and that style of music he does isn't coming back.

Tina Turner is a good choice, but I don't think Tina would show up for an award like this. Especially since she is not extremely popular among black music fans. She never really was.

I see your point about Babyface, but I still think he and LA Reid deserve their credit.

Teddy Riley would be a good choice to me also.

Babyface would be an amazing choice but janet been out wayyyyyy longer than him and everybody saying janet to young then babyface in the same boat..and ditto on tina i heard she turned them down as well..and lets be real if it wasnt for WHATS LOVE GOTTA DO WITH IT movie tina would not be as huge in the black music world...i didnt know who she was until then..the only music i know of her is from that movie so yeahhhhhh..janet made more of an impact her music is strong she sings about racism, hate, injustice, bigotry, children dying, etc that alone should get her this award..music that will live hundreds of thousands of years from now

I think Tina and Aretha knows what BET is all about lol

Um, Baby face came out in the deal in 84-he has been around almost as long as Janet.

Why was Tina never really popular with black music fans?

Janet is not a great singer. Her voice is weak. If she hadn't come along in the video era, she would not have much of a career. Sorry, she's not that talented.

so what songs would yall want other artist to perform..and what songs should janet do..

i remember prince didnt perform i really wished he would have though

scriptgirl said:

Um, Baby face came out in the deal in 84-he has been around almost as long as Janet.

Why was Tina never really popular with black music fans?

Janet is not a great singer. Her voice is weak. If she hadn't come along in the video era, she would not have much of a career. Sorry, she's not that talented.

Janet the actress Good times 1976 how people forget smh

Janet 1st album came out summer of 1982 Boom

and Janet not THAT talented oh ch bye

trelljj said:

daPrettyman said:

Tina Turner is a good choice, but I don't think Tina would show up for an award like this. Especially since she is not extremely popular among black music fans. She never really was.

I see your point about Babyface, but I still think he and LA Reid deserve their credit.

Teddy Riley would be a good choice to me also.

Babyface would be an amazing choice but janet been out wayyyyyy longer than him and everybody saying janet to young then babyface in the same boat..and ditto on tina i heard she turned them down as well..and lets be real if it wasnt for WHATS LOVE GOTTA DO WITH IT movie tina would not be as huge in the black music world...i didnt know who she was until then..the only music i know of her is from that movie so yeahhhhhh..janet made more of an impact her music is strong she sings about racism, hate, injustice, bigotry, children dying, etc that alone should get her this award..music that will live hundreds of thousands of years from now

Janet may have been in the business longer than Face, but Face is a true veteran in the music game. As far as music, Janet's first music project didn't debut until 1981. Babyface's big music break started with Mandrill in 1976.

Not to mention Babyface has written and produced wayyy more hits than Janet has. I don't want it to sound like I'm dissing Janet, because I'm not. I just feel there are other artists from the last 30 or so years that have made an impact on popular music other than the ones that get honored all of the time.

Now that I think about it, I would also like to see BET honor Diana Ross. She gets overlooked in the BET world also.

scriptgirl said:

Um, Baby face came out in the deal in 84-he has been around almost as long as Janet.

Why was Tina never really popular with black music fans?

Janet is not a great singer. Her voice is weak. If she hadn't come along in the video era, she would not have much of a career. Sorry, she's not that talented.

Maybe it's the fact that she's been singing rock music since the early 1970s... I mean she is popular with black music fans but maybe not those who just prefer R&B. Remember, Tina did do some funk recordings (with Ike). Tina technically is still regarded as an R&B/soul artist but has a bigger crossover appeal. R&B audiences didn't really support her first two recordings (Rough and Love Explosion). Both pop and R&B audiences however did gravitate toward her for her two so-called "comeback albums" Private Dancer and Break Every Rule but by then, she was already branded as a ROCK STAR. I think R&B audiences also had something to do with why Tina's not that popular at least with this generation of black music fans because maybe their parents don't play her and Ike's musical works in their house.

trelljj said:

Babyface would be an amazing choice but janet been out wayyyyyy longer than him and everybody saying janet to young then babyface in the same boat

Not really, Babyface started out in the band Manchild in the 1970's. Janet's 1st album can out in 1982. Even if you don't count that, The Deele's debut came out in 1983, only a 1 year difference.

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daPrettyman said:

trelljj said:

Babyface would be an amazing choice but janet been out wayyyyyy longer than him and everybody saying janet to young then babyface in the same boat..and ditto on tina i heard she turned them down as well..and lets be real if it wasnt for WHATS LOVE GOTTA DO WITH IT movie tina would not be as huge in the black music world...i didnt know who she was until then..the only music i know of her is from that movie so yeahhhhhh..janet made more of an impact her music is strong she sings about racism, hate, injustice, bigotry, children dying, etc that alone should get her this award..music that will live hundreds of thousands of years from now

Janet may have been in the business longer than Face, but Face is a true veteran in the music game. As far as music, Janet's first music project didn't debut until 1981. Babyface's big music break started with Mandrill in 1976.

Not to mention Babyface has written and produced wayyy more hits than Janet has. I don't want it to sound like I'm dissing Janet, because I'm not. I just feel there are other artists from the last 30 or so years that have made an impact on popular music other than the ones that get honored all of the time.

Now that I think about it, I would also like to see BET honor Diana Ross. She gets overlooked in the BET world also.

Diana got hers in 2007...

Timmy84 said:

daPrettyman said:

Janet may have been in the business longer than Face, but Face is a true veteran in the music game. As far as music, Janet's first music project didn't debut until 1981. Babyface's big music break started with Mandrill in 1976.

Not to mention Babyface has written and produced wayyy more hits than Janet has. I don't want it to sound like I'm dissing Janet, because I'm not. I just feel there are other artists from the last 30 or so years that have made an impact on popular music other than the ones that get honored all of the time.

Now that I think about it, I would also like to see BET honor Diana Ross. She gets overlooked in the BET world also.

Diana got hers in 2007...

Thanx, Timmy. I forgot about that.

She getting all that for being Wacko Jacko's sister?

Go 'head.

Do you guys thinik BET will ever acknowledge Mariah?

AsherFierce said:

She getting all that for being sister?

Is that name necessary?

daPrettyman said:

Do you guys thinik BET will ever acknowledge Mariah?

They're finally giving Meems the respect she deserves. She got a BET Honors earlier this year. She should get a Lifetime as well.

daPrettyman said:

Do you guys thinik BET will ever acknowledge Mariah?

After getting a tribute at the Honors thing, anything is possible...

daPrettyman said:

Timmy84 said:

Diana got hers in 2007...

Thanx, Timmy. I forgot about that.

Erykah, Chaka and Stevie tributed her...

I don't think there's any artist they could choose without some people feeling like someone else should have been chosen before them. Kind of damned if you do, damned if ya....you know the rest. Especially when considering past legends as mentioned before, who's been forgotten about or just not selected. Just like when you hear about certain well deserved artists never winning a grammy or an oscar. Same thing.

*No I'm not comparing the BET LAA to the Grammys or the Oscars but the same argument applies. I mean, Martin Scorcese never winning for Best Director? Hell, Marvin Gaye barely got a Grammy before he passed.

Musicslave said:

I don't think there's any artist they could choose without some people feeling like someone else should have been chosen before them. Kind of damned if you do, damned if ya....you know the rest. Especially when considering past legends as mentioned before, who's been forgotten about or just not selected. Just like when you hear about certain well deserved artists never winning a grammy or an oscar. Same thing.

*No I'm not comparing the BET LAA to the Grammys or the Oscars but the same argument applies. I mean, Martin Scorcese never winning for Best Director? Hell, Marvin Gaye barely got a Grammy before he passed.

[Edited 3/21/12 20:06pm]

daPrettyman said:

trelljj said:

Babyface would be an amazing choice but janet been out wayyyyyy longer than him and everybody saying janet to young then babyface in the same boat..and ditto on tina i heard she turned them down as well..and lets be real if it wasnt for WHATS LOVE GOTTA DO WITH IT movie tina would not be as huge in the black music world...i didnt know who she was until then..the only music i know of her is from that movie so yeahhhhhh..janet made more of an impact her music is strong she sings about racism, hate, injustice, bigotry, children dying, etc that alone should get her this award..music that will live hundreds of thousands of years from now

Janet may have been in the business longer than Face, but Face is a true veteran in the music game. As far as music, Janet's first music project didn't debut until 1981. Babyface's big music break started with Mandrill in 1976.

Not to mention Babyface has written and produced wayyy more hits than Janet has. I don't want it to sound like I'm dissing Janet, because I'm not. I just feel there are other artists from the last 30 or so years that have made an impact on popular music other than the ones that get honored all of the time.

Now that I think about it, I would also like to see BET honor Diana Ross. She gets overlooked in the BET world also.

Face as a solo artist meaning his studio albums to me does not make him eligible for the BET LIFETIME ACHIEVEMENT AWARD.. face is one of the best producers and song writers of all time..but this award isn't going for his producing and writing skills..its for his contribution as a solo artist and his studio albums thats the case Quincy Jones, Rick Ruben would be deserving of the BET LIFETIME ACHIEVEMENT AWARD... HUGE DIFFERENCE n yes diana was honored in 2007

Timmy84 said:

daPrettyman said:

Do you guys thinik BET will ever acknowledge Mariah?

After getting a tribute at the Honors thing, anything is possible...

Yeah mariah was honored at the 2012 bet honors and it was amazing..she truly deserved it..i think she will get her bet lifetime achievement award in the next 10-14 years from now.....janet has never been honored by BET...never

at least Mj got the BET WALK OF FAME in 1995

whitney got the walk of fame award 1996 and was the 1st to get the lifetime award in 2006

but poor janet never been honored by them so i am exicted to see who bet will pick

I don't watch the BET awards (or BET for that matter) because it wreaks of pure coonery, but they are so random in giving out the lifetime achievement awards. They gave Whitney her's way too early. 2010 would have been a great year, but she was steal honored or whatever. MJ should have gotten one even before Whitney. But instead of touring or putting out music he chose to sleep with little boys, so I can somewhat understand why he wasn't awarded one. Janet doesn't deserve shit. Mariah's skin is light and she didn't start out making "black" music, that's why she's been ignored by BET.

Terrib3Towel said:

Mariah's skin is light and she didn't start out making "black" music

To me, the problem with this kind of thinking is that if you're black, you have to make soul, rap, or R&B music to be recognized. The ones who don't (Herbie Hancock, Charlie Pride, Johnny Mathis, Kathleen Battle, Tracy Chapman, Bobby Bland) are ignored. The Kennedy Honors don't just pick out a certain genre to recognize. What does someone being light or dark skin have to do with winning an award anyway?