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Thread started 03/17/12 6:58pm

nursev

If You Let Me Stay/Terence Trent Darby

http://www.youtube.com/wa...E5gGNrbb2w

The song that let me know he had a beautiful voice headbang and a whole lotta soul lol Love them splits lol The Jam! music

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Reply #1 posted 03/17/12 7:16pm

HuMpThAnG

nursev said:

http://www.youtube.com/wa...E5gGNrbb2w

The song that let me know he had a beautiful voice headbang and a whole lotta soul lol Love them splits lol The Jam! music

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Reply #2 posted 03/17/12 7:19pm

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HuMpThAnG said:

nursev said:

http://www.youtube.com/wa...E5gGNrbb2w

The song that let me know he had a beautiful voice headbang and a whole lotta soul lol Love them splits lol The Jam! music

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Thank you wink Ya'll know I can't post vids falloff Good looking out lol

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Reply #3 posted 03/17/12 7:22pm

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thumbs up!

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Reply #4 posted 03/17/12 7:27pm

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was this Terence's first US hit? I seem to remember Terence was huge in europe when I was in Europe and then when I came back .. he had this song out (before wishing well and dance lil sister, etc).

Loved that album .

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Reply #5 posted 03/17/12 7:33pm

nursev

ColAngus said:

was this Terence's first US hit? I seem to remember Terence was huge in europe when I was in Europe and then when I came back .. he had this song out (before wishing well and dance lil sister, etc).

Loved that album .

I believe it was but I could be wrong lol Yeah the Hardline is a classic album cool

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Reply #6 posted 03/17/12 8:10pm

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ColAngus said:

was this Terence's first US hit? I seem to remember Terence was huge in europe when I was in Europe and then when I came back .. he had this song out (before wishing well and dance lil sister, etc).



Loved that album .


Amazingly, this song was not a big hit in the U.S. (barely made the R&B top 20, missed the top half of the Hot 100). "Wishing Well" is what broke him in America.
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Reply #7 posted 03/17/12 9:35pm

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I've loved Wishing Well since 88, but discovered this song in recent years and love it even more. The live performance in Europe is the best . He has amazing stage presence and a great voice.

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Reply #8 posted 03/17/12 9:38pm

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alphastreet said:

I've loved Wishing Well since 88, but discovered this song in recent years and love it even more. The live performance in Europe is the best . He has amazing stage presence and a great voice.

Say what eek I gotta look around for that version lol Wishing well is a classic too. I have loved his voice since hearing If You Let Me Stay-just beautiful. The Orger Serious told me about Holding On To You and I love that one too cool

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Reply #9 posted 03/17/12 9:41pm

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nursev said:

alphastreet said:

I've loved Wishing Well since 88, but discovered this song in recent years and love it even more. The live performance in Europe is the best . He has amazing stage presence and a great voice.

Say what eek I gotta look around for that version lol Wishing well is a classic too. I have loved his voice since hearing If You Let Me Stay-just beautiful. The Orger Serious told me about Holding On To You and I love that one too cool

Well I first heard it on the radio a few years ago and it grabbed me immediately. I thought it was Stevie Wonder from the vocals but knew it wasn't him of course, I have a few albums of his to know that so I learned through Shazaam it was Terence and went to Youtube right away and this was my first encounter with the song/performance and it grabbed me even more!

LOVE the dancing and look....and you probably understand why I'm being like that wink

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Reply #10 posted 03/17/12 9:47pm

nursev

alphastreet said:

nursev said:

Say what eek I gotta look around for that version lol Wishing well is a classic too. I have loved his voice since hearing If You Let Me Stay-just beautiful. The Orger Serious told me about Holding On To You and I love that one too cool

Well I first heard it on the radio a few years ago and it grabbed me immediately. I thought it was Stevie Wonder from the vocals but knew it wasn't him of course, I have a few albums of his to know that so I learned through Shazaam it was Terence and went to Youtube right away and this was my first encounter with the song/performance and it grabbed me even more!

LOVE the dancing and look....and you probably understand why I'm being like that wink

OMG!!! eek I love the vocals on this version eek The saxophone is wonderful too-I gotta find this somewhere-I love it. Thank you wink

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Reply #11 posted 03/17/12 9:50pm

alphastreet

nursev said:

alphastreet said:

Well I first heard it on the radio a few years ago and it grabbed me immediately. I thought it was Stevie Wonder from the vocals but knew it wasn't him of course, I have a few albums of his to know that so I learned through Shazaam it was Terence and went to Youtube right away and this was my first encounter with the song/performance and it grabbed me even more!

LOVE the dancing and look....and you probably understand why I'm being like that wink

OMG!!! eek I love the vocals on this version eek The saxophone is wonderful too-I gotta find this somewhere-I love it. Thank you wink

My pleasure smile Just back it up on your hard drive, not really sure where you can get it

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Reply #12 posted 03/17/12 9:55pm

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alphastreet said:

nursev said:

OMG!!! eek I love the vocals on this version eek The saxophone is wonderful too-I gotta find this somewhere-I love it. Thank you wink

My pleasure smile Just back it up on your hard drive, not really sure where you can get it

I've listened to it three times already lol the dancing is kinda MJish and that's too cool lol wink

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Reply #13 posted 03/17/12 9:59pm

alphastreet

nursev said:

alphastreet said:

My pleasure smile Just back it up on your hard drive, not really sure where you can get it

I've listened to it three times already lol the dancing is kinda MJish and that's too cool lol wink

I knowwwwwwwwww <3 <3 <3 that's why I got so excited over it upon discovering it. It felt like watching Heartbreak Hotel on the Bad tour or Dirty Diana or even a J5 performance smile *faints* but he also has his own distinctive sound despite also being influenced by the likes of him, Stevie and James Brown which I also see and hear.

[Edited 3/17/12 22:00pm]

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Reply #14 posted 03/17/12 10:02pm

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alphastreet said:

nursev said:

I've listened to it three times already lol the dancing is kinda MJish and that's too cool lol wink

I knowwwwwwwwww <3 <3 <3 that's why I got so excited over it upon discovering it. It felt like watching Heartbreak Hotel on the Bad tour or Dirty Diana or even a J5 performance smile *faints* but he also has his own distinctive sound despite also being influenced by the likes of him, Stevie and James Brown which I also see and hear.

[Edited 3/17/12 22:00pm]

Yeah I see all of those influences and Prince too with the gigantic split/jump in the beginning. Great performance! wink

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Reply #15 posted 03/17/12 10:05pm

alphastreet

nursev said:

alphastreet said:

I knowwwwwwwwww <3 <3 <3 that's why I got so excited over it upon discovering it. It felt like watching Heartbreak Hotel on the Bad tour or Dirty Diana or even a J5 performance smile *faints* but he also has his own distinctive sound despite also being influenced by the likes of him, Stevie and James Brown which I also see and hear.

[Edited 3/17/12 22:00pm]

Yeah I see all of those influences and Prince too with the gigantic split/jump in the beginning. Great performance! wink

So great that Milli Vanilli tried to top it in the following year wink

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Reply #16 posted 03/17/12 10:06pm

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alphastreet said:

nursev said:

Yeah I see all of those influences and Prince too with the gigantic split/jump in the beginning. Great performance! wink

So great that Milli Vanilli tried to top it in the following year wink

Let's not speak on it lol I actually bought their cd-who knew? lol

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Reply #17 posted 03/17/12 10:11pm

alphastreet

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alphastreet said:

So great that Milli Vanilli tried to top it in the following year wink

Let's not speak on it lol I actually bought their cd-who knew? lol

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Reply #18 posted 03/18/12 12:17am

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Terence was charismatic, gorgeous and had talent. I have never understood why his career died stateside after his debut cd. He really fit perfectly between prince and MJ

"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
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Reply #19 posted 03/18/12 1:39am

alphastreet

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Terence was charismatic, gorgeous and had talent. I have never understood why his career died stateside after his debut cd. He really fit perfectly between prince and MJ

Ohhhhh the visual lol

Maybe he should have shut up about the Beatles lol

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Reply #20 posted 03/18/12 12:53pm

HuMpThAnG

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scriptgirl said:

Terence was charismatic, gorgeous and had talent. I have never understood why his career died stateside after his debut cd. He really fit perfectly between prince and MJ

Ohhhhh the visual lol

Maybe he should have shut up about the Beatles lol

yup..nod that's what killed it for him

Never better yourself than The Beatles no no no!

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Reply #21 posted 03/18/12 1:11pm

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what did he say? really his career went down because of that remark?

"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
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Reply #22 posted 03/18/12 1:24pm

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scriptgirl said:

what did he say? really his career went down because of that remark?

TTD implied in an interview once that Michael Jackson or his people (Frank Dileo I guess) talked to CBS Records (now Sony) and requested that they not promote his 2nd album. Years later, after the name change to Sananda, he said that when CBS was bought out by Sony, all of the people that signed him were fired. The new staff wasn't on his side and wouldn't promote his records, but wouldn't let him out of his contract.

All TTD said about The Beatles was that his debut album was better than Sgt. Pepper.

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Reply #23 posted 03/18/12 1:35pm

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Do you think TTD was telling the truth re MJ and Frank?

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Reply #24 posted 03/18/12 2:00pm

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Do you think TTD was telling the truth re MJ and Frank?

"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
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Reply #25 posted 03/18/12 2:48pm

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MickyDolenz said:

scriptgirl said:

what did he say? really his career went down because of that remark?

TTD implied in an interview once that Michael Jackson or his people (Frank Dileo I guess) talked to CBS Records (now Sony) and requested that they not promote his 2nd album. Years later, after the name change to Sananda, he said that when CBS was bought out by Sony, all of the people that signed him were fired. The new staff wasn't on his side and wouldn't promote his records, but wouldn't let him out of his contract.

All TTD said about The Beatles was that his debut album was better than Sgt. Pepper.

I have no idea if he was telling the truth, but nothing surprises me about MJ anymore. (Thought I knew a lot about him before he sadly passed away). At the same time, his latter description of what happened after Sony bought out CBS sounds more likely. Michael had no problem selling albums back in 1988-89 when Neither Fish Nor Flesh came out.

Either way, TTD's second album died pretty quick. The comment about Sgt Pepper was tongue in cheek but that never came thru in the interview. TTD/Sananda is one of my musical angels and will always love his music...not to mention one of the best singers to ever be recorded. I got to see him live around 1995 and it was one of the best shows I'd ever been to.

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Reply #26 posted 03/18/12 2:59pm

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I wonder if TTD is actually as to think that non-promotion is the reason for the failure of his second album. lol

It was uncommercial and unconventional. It was doomed from the start.

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Reply #27 posted 03/18/12 3:47pm

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But even if the 2nd album wasn't commercial, it's odd that his career tanked so badly. I mean, that wasn't the norm back then, right?

"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
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Reply #28 posted 03/18/12 4:22pm

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scriptgirl said:

But even if the 2nd album wasn't commercial, it's odd that his career tanked so badly. I mean, that wasn't the norm back then, right?

It was too unconventional. He didn't have one hard hitter like Wishing Well on it.

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Reply #29 posted 03/18/12 4:40pm

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Eh, i adore his albums. And i'm kind of glad he didn't have lots & lots of hits. He got a lot of freedom on his records to what he wants. No matter how weird or essentric

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