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Thread started 02/21/03 10:06am

yioryos

What about Dr.Dre?

I've been a huge fan of Dr.Dre since the Chronic album. It was the first rap album i bought and the closest i came to rap before that was Monie Love (she was cool). As I don't come from an english-speaking country it was the melody and the beat which hooked me not the lyrics (now that i can understand them fully i find them pretty interesting too). The whole death-row era (for which he is responsible in a great extend was great (Doggystyle, Dogg Pound, Above The Rim, Murder Was The Case etc). His comeback album "Aftermath" was a bit dissapointing i admit but he did make a "comeback" in the late 90s by discovering Eminem (overrated yes but still one of the greatest), Truth Hurts, producing "Family Affair" and releasing two superb albums "2001" and "The Wash".Now he seems to have done it again. He produced the best rap track in ages "In Da Club" by 50 cent. Along with Prince, Madonna, TLC, Bjork and a few others he is my fave artist and like the ones mentioned above (except TLC) a genious (each of the above artist is a genious in his/her own way/I don't mean that Madonna is a musical genious-anyway the word genious to me is an overstatement and i use as such). So what do you think about Dre?
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Reply #1 posted 02/21/03 10:30am

Brother915

Dr.Dre is one of the greatest hip-hop producers ever. Certainly one of the hardest, grittest and stankiest{as in funky}. I still think his production on NWA's last album Efil4zaggin are some of the hardest, meanest, nastiest, funkiest beats in the history of hip-hop. The cartoonish violence advocated, as well as, the misogynist lyrics{I mean extreme hatred of women} brings this album down a bit. However, the production on this album is masterful. People talk about Kobe Bryant being in the zone the past 1 month of so, but Dr.Dre has been in the zone over a decade. His beats and style of production is hard and rough... yet accessible.
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Reply #2 posted 02/21/03 5:46pm

mistermaxxx

The Quincy Jones of Rap Producers.Dr.Dre is His Own Musical Institution&The WEST COAST RULES The RAP Music Period!!
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Reply #3 posted 02/22/03 5:36am

LaVisHh

Dr.Dre lover here! biggrin

In fact...Death Row Records Greatest Hits gets big time play in my player.

wink

His voice is damned sexy.
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Reply #4 posted 02/22/03 5:38am

CalhounSq

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nod Dre nod
heart prince I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it prince heart
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Reply #5 posted 02/22/03 2:19pm

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Dre is the man for hip hop beats period. Some classic examples:

50 Cent - In Da Club
Dre - Nuthin But A G Thang
The Whole NWA Niggaz For Life CD
2Pac - Californa Love
Snoop Dogg - Entire Doggy Style Cd
The Chronic Cd
Eminem - Marshall Matthers

In short he is the Quincy Jones of hip hop.
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Reply #6 posted 02/23/03 9:43am

yioryos

Oh yeah Death Row Greatest Hits is on my cd player all the time as well. I love "What Would You Do" (probably the only great song on the cd i didn't hear before bying it). Also the Xzibit cd is currently big on my player (although it's not a great cd, with every play it sounds better). Can't wait for 50 cent's "Get Rich" to be released here
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Reply #7 posted 02/23/03 12:00pm

EllisDee

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LaVisHh said:

Dr.Dre lover here! biggrin

In fact...Death Row Records Greatest Hits gets big time play in my player.

wink

His voice is damned sexy.



nod

kick ass album... 2cds of the finest west coast hip-hop of the 90s...

get the "ruthless records" compilation and ice-t's "og original gangsta", and you've got a good overview of 90s west coast gangsta shit...

the soundtrack to my middle and high school life...


stab muthafuckin' gangsta edit, bee-otch...
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Reply #8 posted 02/24/03 5:48am

LaVisHh

EllisDee said:

LaVisHh said:

Dr.Dre lover here! biggrin

In fact...Death Row Records Greatest Hits gets big time play in my player.

wink

His voice is damned sexy.



nod

kick ass album... 2cds of the finest west coast hip-hop of the 90s...

get the "ruthless records" compilation and ice-t's "og original gangsta", and you've got a good overview of 90s west coast gangsta shit...

the soundtrack to my middle and high school life...


stab muthafuckin' gangsta edit, bee-otch...
[This message was edited Sun Feb 23 12:02:50 PST 2003 by EllisDee]


"get"

You mean you aren't sending me yours? biggrin
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Reply #9 posted 02/24/03 6:04am

Essence

"Still DRE" was one hell of a comeback single even though Jay-Z wrote it.
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Reply #10 posted 02/24/03 10:51am

intha916

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"He produced the best rap track in ages "In Da Club" by 50 cent. "

What the hell do u people hear in this song? I swear, I feel like Alice in the looking glass sometimes. How is this a banger? The guy raps like he has a mouth full of cheetos and the beat is dull as fuck! As a matter of fact Dre's beats ( and whack ass keys) have been weak for sometime now. I think Battle Cat was the driving force behind the "G Funk" sound if you ask me. I'll take DJ Quick's production any day over Dre.
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Reply #11 posted 02/24/03 2:31pm

mistermaxxx

intha916 said:

"He produced the best rap track in ages "In Da Club" by 50 cent. "

What the hell do u people hear in this song? I swear, I feel like Alice in the looking glass sometimes. How is this a banger? The guy raps like he has a mouth full of cheetos and the beat is dull as fuck! As a matter of fact Dre's beats ( and whack ass keys) have been weak for sometime now. I think Battle Cat was the driving force behind the "G Funk" sound if you ask me. I'll take DJ Quick's production any day over Dre.
down with DJ Quik as well Here.
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Reply #12 posted 02/24/03 2:57pm

intha916

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mistermaxxx said:

intha916 said:

"He produced the best rap track in ages "In Da Club" by 50 cent. "

What the hell do u people hear in this song? I swear, I feel like Alice in the looking glass sometimes. How is this a banger? The guy raps like he has a mouth full of cheetos and the beat is dull as fuck! As a matter of fact Dre's beats ( and whack ass keys) have been weak for sometime now. I think Battle Cat was the driving force behind the "G Funk" sound if you ask me. I'll take DJ Quick's production any day over Dre.
down with DJ Quik as well Here.


Quick is much more of a musician than is Dre. I guess I just see it a bit differently seeing as I had contact Dre back in the mid 80's. He would dj and later perform with his "World Class Wreckin' Crew" at clubs I dee jayed at around the same time. Andre was a cool cat but he was nothing more than a dee jay like the rest of us. He is just not a musician. What he does have is a good ear. He knows a hit when he hears it. Its a question of who created the hit that bugs me
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Reply #13 posted 02/24/03 3:10pm

mistermaxxx

intha916 said:

mistermaxxx said:

intha916 said:

"He produced the best rap track in ages "In Da Club" by 50 cent. "

What the hell do u people hear in this song? I swear, I feel like Alice in the looking glass sometimes. How is this a banger? The guy raps like he has a mouth full of cheetos and the beat is dull as fuck! As a matter of fact Dre's beats ( and whack ass keys) have been weak for sometime now. I think Battle Cat was the driving force behind the "G Funk" sound if you ask me. I'll take DJ Quick's production any day over Dre.
down with DJ Quik as well Here.


Quick is much more of a musician than is Dre. I guess I just see it a bit differently seeing as I had contact Dre back in the mid 80's. He would dj and later perform with his "World Class Wreckin' Crew" at clubs I dee jayed at around the same time. Andre was a cool cat but he was nothing more than a dee jay like the rest of us. He is just not a musician. What he does have is a good ear. He knows a hit when he hears it. Its a question of who created the hit that bugs me
Quik plays Bass&He really Grooves.Dre is good with Mixing&Working a Groove.He is a Talent Scout&Hustles just like Puffy.A Ear To The Club&The Street.I heard some of the World Class Wreckin' stuff&Dre Hustles&does whatever to get Over.Quik I feel is Better as well but Dre has Musical Angels Around Him Right People Right Time.Snoop to Eminem.The Guy has a Stroke of Genius with Hooking up with the Right People.Quik hasn't had a Knockout Artist Directly with Him Per Se.
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Reply #14 posted 02/24/03 3:07pm

classic77

mistermaxxx said:

intha916 said:

mistermaxxx said:

intha916 said:

"He produced the best rap track in ages "In Da Club" by 50 cent. "

What the hell do u people hear in this song? I swear, I feel like Alice in the looking glass sometimes. How is this a banger? The guy raps like he has a mouth full of cheetos and the beat is dull as fuck! As a matter of fact Dre's beats ( and whack ass keys) have been weak for sometime now. I think Battle Cat was the driving force behind the "G Funk" sound if you ask me. I'll take DJ Quick's production any day over Dre.
down with DJ Quik as well Here.


Quick is much more of a musician than is Dre. I guess I just see it a bit differently seeing as I had contact Dre back in the mid 80's. He would dj and later perform with his "World Class Wreckin' Crew" at clubs I dee jayed at around the same time. Andre was a cool cat but he was nothing more than a dee jay like the rest of us. He is just not a musician. What he does have is a good ear. He knows a hit when he hears it. Its a question of who created the hit that bugs me
Quik plays Bass&He really Grooves.Dre is good with Mixing&Working a Groove.He is a Talent Scout&Hustles just like Puffy.A Ear To The Club&The Street.I heard some of the World Class Wreckin' stuff&Dre Hustles&does whatever to get Over.Quik I feel is Better as well but Dre has Musical Angels Around Him Right People Right Time.Snoop to Eminem.The Guy has a Stroke of Genius with Hooking up with the Right People.Quik hasn't had a Knockout Artist Directly with Him Per Se.


Dre also has the right combination of co-producers many of which you can argue do most of the work as far as the tracks and Dre gets the credit.
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Reply #15 posted 02/24/03 3:11pm

intha916

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mistermaxxx said:

intha916 said:

mistermaxxx said:

intha916 said:

"He produced the best rap track in ages "In Da Club" by 50 cent. "

What the hell do u people hear in this song? I swear, I feel like Alice in the looking glass sometimes. How is this a banger? The guy raps like he has a mouth full of cheetos and the beat is dull as fuck! As a matter of fact Dre's beats ( and whack ass keys) have been weak for sometime now. I think Battle Cat was the driving force behind the "G Funk" sound if you ask me. I'll take DJ Quick's production any day over Dre.
down with DJ Quik as well Here.


Quick is much more of a musician than is Dre. I guess I just see it a bit differently seeing as I had contact Dre back in the mid 80's. He would dj and later perform with his "World Class Wreckin' Crew" at clubs I dee jayed at around the same time. Andre was a cool cat but he was nothing more than a dee jay like the rest of us. He is just not a musician. What he does have is a good ear. He knows a hit when he hears it. Its a question of who created the hit that bugs me
Quik plays Bass&He really Grooves.Dre is good with Mixing&Working a Groove.He is a Talent Scout&Hustles just like Puffy.A Ear To The Club&The Street.I heard some of the World Class Wreckin' stuff&Dre Hustles&does whatever to get Over.Quik I feel is Better as well but Dre has Musical Angels Around Him Right People Right Time.Snoop to Eminem.The Guy has a Stroke of Genius with Hooking up with the Right People.Quik hasn't had a Knockout Artist Directly with Him Per Se.


Maxx I agree with most of what you said about Dre and Quick but I would rather focus on the quality of their work and not sales per se. Quick as produced some of the best hip hop albums of all time IMO. From his debute all the way to balance and options, quick has come strong. The first 2nd 2 None album is another great quick project. Add to that "Let's Get Down" with the Tonies and I'll stand by my claim that Quick is the only rapper out there I feel has real musical skills.
[This message was edited Mon Feb 24 15:12:12 PST 2003 by intha916]
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Reply #16 posted 02/24/03 4:14pm

mistermaxxx

intha916 said:

mistermaxxx said:

intha916 said:

mistermaxxx said:

intha916 said:

"He produced the best rap track in ages "In Da Club" by 50 cent. "

What the hell do u people hear in this song? I swear, I feel like Alice in the looking glass sometimes. How is this a banger? The guy raps like he has a mouth full of cheetos and the beat is dull as fuck! As a matter of fact Dre's beats ( and whack ass keys) have been weak for sometime now. I think Battle Cat was the driving force behind the "G Funk" sound if you ask me. I'll take DJ Quick's production any day over Dre.
down with DJ Quik as well Here.


Quick is much more of a musician than is Dre. I guess I just see it a bit differently seeing as I had contact Dre back in the mid 80's. He would dj and later perform with his "World Class Wreckin' Crew" at clubs I dee jayed at around the same time. Andre was a cool cat but he was nothing more than a dee jay like the rest of us. He is just not a musician. What he does have is a good ear. He knows a hit when he hears it. Its a question of who created the hit that bugs me
Quik plays Bass&He really Grooves.Dre is good with Mixing&Working a Groove.He is a Talent Scout&Hustles just like Puffy.A Ear To The Club&The Street.I heard some of the World Class Wreckin' stuff&Dre Hustles&does whatever to get Over.Quik I feel is Better as well but Dre has Musical Angels Around Him Right People Right Time.Snoop to Eminem.The Guy has a Stroke of Genius with Hooking up with the Right People.Quik hasn't had a Knockout Artist Directly with Him Per Se.


Maxx I agree with most of what you said about Dre and Quick but I would rather focus on the quality of their work and not sales per se. Quick as produced some of the best hip hop albums of all time IMO. From his debute all the way to balance and options, quick has come strong. The first 2nd 2 None album is another great quick project. Add to that "Let's Get Down" with the Tonies and I'll stand by my claim that Quick is the only rapper out there I feel has real musical skills.
[This message was edited Mon Feb 24 15:12:12 PST 2003 by intha916]
Sales do matter because it all coems with the package once you get in the Business&you can't really have one without the Other.Quik was on Jermaine Dupri's 1814 Album&also 2Pac's "All Eyez on Me"&some other Projects that Sold Well.Talent,,Success all factor in.I think Quik has Made Two Must Have Albums all the way through.His First&"Rhythmlism".I dug parts of "Safe N Sound as well."Balance&Options"Well" was my Cut but most of that Album was Sloppy 2nds for me&LA Reid ran Him out of Arista&I could tell Quik just was going through the Motions.I think Quik is The Best Producer in Rap Music but I think there are other Talented Cats as well IMHO.there is nothing wrong with Success&if you don't balance the two out then you won't last.Quik is seen more of a Producer than a Artist by many within the Industry.His Rapping is somewhere between Eazy E&Snoop Dogg.
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Reply #17 posted 02/24/03 4:28pm

Brother915

mistermaxxx said:

intha916 said:

"He produced the best rap track in ages "In Da Club" by 50 cent. "

What the hell do u people hear in this song? I swear, I feel like Alice in the looking glass sometimes. How is this a banger? The guy raps like he has a mouth full of cheetos and the beat is dull as fuck! As a matter of fact Dre's beats ( and whack ass keys) have been weak for sometime now. I think Battle Cat was the driving force behind the "G Funk" sound if you ask me. I'll take DJ Quick's production any day over Dre.
down with DJ Quik as well Here.



"Cause ya can't stop a brotha like the quikster...cause I'm true to the game...you LAME and thangs ain't gon never be the same"

"Born And Raised In Compton" was the jam in the early 90's.
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Reply #18 posted 02/24/03 6:20pm

EllisDee

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LaVisHh said:

EllisDee said:

LaVisHh said:

Dr.Dre lover here! biggrin

In fact...Death Row Records Greatest Hits gets big time play in my player.

wink

His voice is damned sexy.



nod

kick ass album... 2cds of the finest west coast hip-hop of the 90s...

get the "ruthless records" compilation and ice-t's "og original gangsta", and you've got a good overview of 90s west coast gangsta shit...

the soundtrack to my middle and high school life...


stab muthafuckin' gangsta edit, bee-otch...
[This message was edited Sun Feb 23 12:02:50 PST 2003 by EllisDee]


"get"

You mean you aren't sending me yours? biggrin



i can make you copies... but i ain't sending ya mine... these cds are my bible of west coast hip-hop... nod...

seriously, though... if you haven't heard "o.g. original gangsta," you are missing out on possibly the greatest gangsta rap album to come out of that era... i like the "ruthless records" compilation a lot because it collects a lot of the lesser known tunes and skips over some of the stuff that everyone knows like "crossroads" by cypress hill & "fuck tha police" by nwa...

lemme know if ya need the hookup... i'm always willing to take somebody to school on this shit... ol' school, that is... pimp2...
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Reply #19 posted 02/24/03 8:58pm

Christopher

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of course being from california you cant avoid gangsta rap...so when all that stuff came out me and my friends thought it was the coolest shit smile
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Reply #20 posted 02/24/03 9:05pm

Rumpofsteelski
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I've been a huge fan of Dre ever since he was dressing up in lace with the World Class Wreckin' Cru.





That's right. I said it.
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Reply #21 posted 02/24/03 10:52pm

mistermaxxx

Brother915 said:

mistermaxxx said:

intha916 said:

"He produced the best rap track in ages "In Da Club" by 50 cent. "

What the hell do u people hear in this song? I swear, I feel like Alice in the looking glass sometimes. How is this a banger? The guy raps like he has a mouth full of cheetos and the beat is dull as fuck! As a matter of fact Dre's beats ( and whack ass keys) have been weak for sometime now. I think Battle Cat was the driving force behind the "G Funk" sound if you ask me. I'll take DJ Quick's production any day over Dre.
down with DJ Quik as well Here.



"Cause ya can't stop a brotha like the quikster...cause I'm true to the game...you LAME and thangs ain't gon never be the same"

"Born And Raised In Compton" was the jam in the early 90's.
Him&G-One bring the Pain on the 4/4 Grooves.dug that first Album alot.
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Reply #22 posted 02/25/03 12:08pm

yioryos

In Da Club is just great and sounds excellent in a club. It just makes me wanna dance. When I hear music i don't usually think much about the lyrics or if the singer has a good voice or rhyming. If it sounds good and can touch you then it's a good song. And that's just the case with "In Da Club"
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Reply #23 posted 02/25/03 12:14pm

chickengrease

Rumpofsteelskin said:

I've been a huge fan of Dre ever since he was dressing up in lace with the World Class Wreckin' Cru.





That's right. I said it.


evillol
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Reply #24 posted 02/25/03 1:38pm

intha916

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chickengrease said:

Rumpofsteelskin said:

I've been a huge fan of Dre ever since he was dressing up in lace with the World Class Wreckin' Cru.





That's right. I said it.


evillol


LOL Calling DR Dre to Sur-ger-ee lol
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Reply #25 posted 02/26/03 12:25pm

JDINTERACTIVE

What about Dr. Dre he's dead, he's locked in my basement.!!!
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