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Thread started 02/28/12 7:17pm

smoothcriminal
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Africa vs. Human Nature

I hope this isn't breaking any rules.

Which one do you prefer?

Melody wise, songwriting, musically, vocally, etc, which do you find better?

I'll sit out for the first little bit...I want to see how this goes.

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Reply #1 posted 02/28/12 8:06pm

Gunsnhalen

I think Africa is a way better song, i love the lyrics and melody to it. Not to mention i'm a huge sucker for great politcal/social songs and Africa is a classic of it's time.

Human Nature is a pretty ballad but it doesn't give me that spice the Africa melody gives me cool

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Reply #2 posted 02/28/12 8:13pm

JoeBala

I like both, but Africa...

Just Music-No Categories-Enjoy It!
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Reply #3 posted 02/29/12 6:13am

SoulAlive

Human Nature

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Reply #4 posted 02/29/12 6:45am

Unholyalliance

I really like them both, but I, definitely, prefer the vocals on Human Nature by a mile.

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Reply #5 posted 02/29/12 7:21am

LiLi1992

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For me:
ToTo < MJ in general

but

Africa >>>> Human nature cool

I LOVE Africa and only a bit like Human Nature
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Reply #6 posted 02/29/12 8:07am

robertlove

Africa is nice, but Human Nature is one of my favourite songs ever....so

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Reply #7 posted 02/29/12 8:08am

Dewrede

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Africa by whom ?

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Reply #8 posted 02/29/12 8:21am

LiLi1992

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Live perfoms

Toto - Africa

MJ - Human nature

[Edited 2/29/12 8:22am]

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Reply #9 posted 02/29/12 8:24am

ScarletScandal

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Didn't one of the guys from Toto write Human Nature?

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Reply #10 posted 02/29/12 8:28am

Dewrede

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LiLi1992 said:

Live perfoms

Toto - Africa

MJ - Human nature

[Edited 2/29/12 8:22am]

ok thanks

I never liked that song , or the band for that matter

I find the song corny and their music doesn't convey any emotion to me whatsoever , frankly

I love Human Nature

[Edited 2/29/12 8:28am]

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Reply #11 posted 02/29/12 8:31am

robertlove

ScarletScandal said:

Didn't one of the guys from Toto write Human Nature?

yeah, I believe so

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Reply #12 posted 02/29/12 8:38am

Militant

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ScarletScandal said:

Didn't one of the guys from Toto write Human Nature?

Yep, hence the thread.

Steve Porcaro wrote it, this is his demo of it:

A good chunk of the instrumentation on the Thriller album was performed by Toto bandmembers like Steve, David Paich, and Steve Lukather.

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Reply #13 posted 02/29/12 8:43am

mjscarousal

HUMAN NATURE biggrin

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Reply #14 posted 02/29/12 9:51am

Gunsnhalen

How come Toto kind of feel off after Africa though?, They had a huge hit with Toto IV even won album of the year... then of course Steve & David helped with the songs on Thriller.

After that they knd of flopped eek and could barely get a top 40 hit.

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Pistols sounded like "Fuck off," wheras The Clash sounded like "Fuck Off, but here's why.."- Thedigitialgardener

All music is shit music and no music is real- gunsnhalen

Datdonkeydick- Asherfierce

Gary Hunts Album Isn't That Good- Soulalive
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Reply #15 posted 02/29/12 10:03am

xLiberiangirl

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Both are amazing songs, I can't choose. lol

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Reply #16 posted 02/29/12 2:54pm

Militant

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Gunsnhalen said:

How come Toto kind of feel off after Africa though?, They had a huge hit with Toto IV even won album of the year... then of course Steve & David helped with the songs on Thriller.

After that they knd of flopped eek and could barely get a top 40 hit.

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Well, Bobby Kimball was fired from the band, and "Isolation", the follow up to TOTO IV was the first (and only) album they did with Fergie Fredrickson fronting the band. So perhaps the public didn't take to him as a singer/frontman. After Fergie was let go they did two albums with Joseph Williams as the frontman, the second of which was moderately successful.

So perhaps it's that the subsequent lineups never worked quite as well. Bobby Kimball did come back for a while circa '97, but at that point I think the band was past the point of being able to crack the Top 40.

Funnily enough they reformed again last year and Joseph Williams is back as the frontman for the first time since 1989. And Steve Porcaro is back on synths for the first time since '86.

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Reply #17 posted 02/29/12 8:54pm

aardvark15

Human Nature all the way. I love that song with all my heart!!!

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Reply #18 posted 03/01/12 3:14am

spacedolphin

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I would have to say Africa by the stretch of Africa

music Don't wanna be an American idiot music
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Reply #19 posted 03/01/12 8:08am

robertlove

Militant said:

ScarletScandal said:

Didn't one of the guys from Toto write Human Nature?

Yep, hence the thread.

Steve Porcaro wrote it, this is his demo of it:

A good chunk of the instrumentation on the Thriller album was performed by Toto bandmembers like Steve, David Paich, and Steve Lukather.

Even the demo is beautiful

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Reply #20 posted 03/01/12 2:03pm

LiLi1992

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Almost no love for Africa here ... confused

strange hmm
This song is great and real classic

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Reply #21 posted 03/01/12 2:08pm

smoothcriminal
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LiLi1992 said:

Almost no love for Africa here ... confused

....

Huh? lol

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Reply #22 posted 03/01/12 2:15pm

LiLi1992

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smoothcriminal12 said:

LiLi1992 said:

Almost no love for Africa here ... confused

....

Huh? lol

Well, I mean that Africa is losing, although I think it is obviously much stronger song than HN. wink

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Reply #23 posted 03/01/12 2:30pm

smoothcriminal
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LiLi1992 said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

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Huh? lol

Well, I mean that Africa is losing, although I think it is obviously much stronger song than HN. wink

Oh...I thought more people preferred Africa, but I didn't count.

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Reply #24 posted 03/01/12 2:46pm

LiLi1992

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smoothcriminal12 said:

LiLi1992 said:

Well, I mean that Africa is losing, although I think it is obviously much stronger song than HN. wink

Oh...I thought more people preferred Africa, but I didn't count.

I count it instead of you ... lol
Africa:
Gunsnhalen
JoeBala
I
spacedolphin

Human nature:
SoulAlive
Unholyalliance
robertlove
Dewrede
mjscarousal
aardvark15

Several others could not decide.

although in general I prefer MJ, there are only a few songs in his collection (3 or maybe 4), which is stronger than Africa, but HN definitely not one of them wink

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Reply #25 posted 03/01/12 3:51pm

V10LETBLUES

I dunno, but I think everything MJ should be strictly relegated and corralled in that sticky ghetto up above. Never should anything MJ related be allowed to leave or contaminate anything away from the quarantined sticky.

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Reply #26 posted 03/01/12 3:52pm

smoothcriminal
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V10LETBLUES said:

I dunno, but I think everything MJ should be strictly relegated and corralled in that sticky ghetto up above. Never should anything MJ related be allowed to leave or contaminate anything away from the quarantined sticky.

This is more about the songs themselves.

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Reply #27 posted 03/01/12 3:53pm

Timmy84

Human Nature.

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Reply #28 posted 03/01/12 4:02pm

sosgemini

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V10LETBLUES said:

I dunno, but I think everything MJ should be strictly relegated and corralled in that sticky ghetto up above. Never should anything MJ related be allowed to leave or contaminate anything away from the quarantined sticky.

lol

Watch out--here come da judge. Here come da judge!!

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Reply #29 posted 03/02/12 11:52am

LiLi1992

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V10LETBLUES said:

I dunno, but I think everything MJ should be strictly relegated and corralled in that sticky ghetto up above. Never should anything MJ related be allowed to leave or contaminate anything away from the quarantined sticky.

Don.t see the problem . rolleyes
Comparison of two songs, one of which - the greatest song of Toto, and the second song, written by a guy from Toto .. MJ only performer of the song, his role is not as important ... lol

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