independent and unofficial
Prince fan community
Welcome! Sign up or enter username and password to remember me
Forum jump
Forums > Music: Non-Prince > Is death metal really music?
« Previous topic  Next topic »
Page 3 of 3 <123
  New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
Reply #60 posted 02/27/12 3:39pm

TheDigitalGard
ener

I personally think it's a load of silly growling shite, but yes, it's music.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #61 posted 02/27/12 4:19pm

novabrkr

breese said:

novabrkr said:

You're kidding me?

The video you posted isn't even death metal by any standards.

Death metal:

Of course it's music.

I respect their musicianship and all, but I can't listen to that guy for 5 seconds without bursting out laughing. I don't know how anyone who isn't some kind of retarded douchebag could take that the least bit seriously. And the name of the song is hilarious as well: 'Surgery of Impalement'. lol These guys appear to be actual adult men. Who apparently didn't get a lot of hugs growing up.

[Edited 2/27/12 8:15am]

Meh.

Doesn't deserve a response.

[Edited 2/27/12 16:25pm]

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #62 posted 02/27/12 4:24pm

TonyVanDam

avatar

smoothcriminal12 said:

breese said:

why wouldn't a pissed off 15 year old love this? I know I did. Okay, I topped off at Reign In Blood. This shit was always unlistenable to me.

Eh. Black kids got they gangsta rap, white kids got they death metal, everyone's happy. lol

There, that's better.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #63 posted 02/27/12 4:34pm

TonyVanDam

avatar

Timmy84 said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

Eh. Black kids got they rap, white kids got they death metal, everyone's happy. lol

[img:$uid]http://dancingczars.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/thats-racist.gif[/img:$uid]

razz

Bullshit! lol

Rap/metal belongs together, moreso than hip-hop/r&b.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #64 posted 02/27/12 4:43pm

smoothcriminal
12

TonyVanDam said:

Timmy84 said:

[img:$uid]http://dancingczars.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/thats-racist.gif[/img:$uid]

razz

Bullshit! lol

Rap/metal belongs together, moreso than hip-hop/r&b.

Now THAT'S my type of metal.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #65 posted 02/27/12 4:46pm

aardvark15

smoothcriminal12 said:

TonyVanDam said:

Bullshit! lol

Rap/metal belongs together, moreso than hip-hop/r&b.

Now THAT'S my type of metal.

highfive

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #66 posted 02/27/12 4:49pm

smoothcriminal
12

aardvark15 said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

Now THAT'S my type of metal.

highfive

highfive

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #67 posted 02/28/12 12:28am

novabrkr

I'll make you a few comparisons with funk music so that you'll understand what it's about.

The growled vocals are just another way to use the human voice as an instrument. Falsetto is at one end of the spectrum, growling is at the other. Do you consider the high-pitched vocals of Prince, Curtis Mayfield or the Bees somehow more natural and less silly? I personally don't. Some funk vocals also imitate the timbres of the other sounds used in the music (such as wah wah guitars and filtered synth sounds) and the same can be said about the vocals used in metal. It blends in with the rest of the sounds used.

Most "extreme metal" bands do not use their horror and gore imagery in a more "serious" sense than funk bands use theirs. There's a lot of irony to be found on the titles and band names ("Transilvanian Hunger", "Infecting The Crypts", "Cryptopsy", "Vader"). A lot of the stuff borders on nonsense intentionally, which is not different from what groups like Parliament / Funkadelic have been doing. So why is it okay for your favourite bands to use irony and exaggerated imagery and not okay for some others?

I've never met anyone that plays in a death metal band that would have taken the themes used in death metal too seriously. They're constantly laughing at themselves and always have a good sense of humour. I've also found them to be more polite and more knowledgeable in music than most other musicians. I've never witnessed the members of a death metal band misbehave towards studio personnel or the organizers of a music festival. I can't say the same about guys that do hiphop or dance music.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #68 posted 02/28/12 4:56am

smoothcriminal
12

novabrkr said:

I'll make you a few comparisons with funk music so that you'll understand what it's about.

The growled vocals are just another way to use the human voice as an instrument. Falsetto is at one end of the spectrum, growling is at the other. Do you consider the high-pitched vocals of Prince, Curtis Mayfield or the Bees somehow more natural and less silly? I personally don't. Some funk vocals also imitate the timbres of the other sounds used in the music (such as wah wah guitars and filtered synth sounds) and the same can be said about the vocals used in metal. It blends in with the rest of the sounds used.

Most "extreme metal" bands do not use their horror and gore imagery in a more "serious" sense than funk bands use theirs. There's a lot of irony to be found on the titles and band names ("Transilvanian Hunger", "Infecting The Crypts", "Cryptopsy", "Vader"). A lot of the stuff borders on nonsense intentionally, which is not different from what groups like Parliament / Funkadelic have been doing. So why is it okay for your favourite bands to use irony and exaggerated imagery and not okay for some others?

I've never met anyone that plays in a death metal band that would have taken the themes used in death metal too seriously. They're constantly laughing at themselves and always have a good sense of humour. I've also found them to be more polite and more knowledgeable in music than most other musicians. I've never witnessed the members of a death metal band misbehave towards studio personnel or the organizers of a music festival. I can't say the same about guys that do hiphop or dance music.

eek eek eek

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #69 posted 02/28/12 6:55am

Shango

avatar

TonyVanDam said:

Bullshit! lol

Rap/metal belongs together, moreso than hip-hop/r&b

Or earlier than that cool

http://prince.org/msg/8/360782

http://prince.org/msg/8/338926

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #70 posted 02/28/12 8:18am

Unholyalliance

Don't they usually claim that metal is the closest of the popular music genres to classical music?

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #71 posted 02/28/12 8:21am

breese

novabrkr said:

I'll make you a few comparisons with funk music so that you'll understand what it's about.

The growled vocals are just another way to use the human voice as an instrument. Falsetto is at one end of the spectrum, growling is at the other. Do you consider the high-pitched vocals of Prince, Curtis Mayfield or the Bees somehow more natural and less silly? I personally don't. Some funk vocals also imitate the timbres of the other sounds used in the music (such as wah wah guitars and filtered synth sounds) and the same can be said about the vocals used in metal. It blends in with the rest of the sounds used.

Most "extreme metal" bands do not use their horror and gore imagery in a more "serious" sense than funk bands use theirs. There's a lot of irony to be found on the titles and band names ("Transilvanian Hunger", "Infecting The Crypts", "Cryptopsy", "Vader"). A lot of the stuff borders on nonsense intentionally, which is not different from what groups like Parliament / Funkadelic have been doing. So why is it okay for your favourite bands to use irony and exaggerated imagery and not okay for some others?

I've never met anyone that plays in a death metal band that would have taken the themes used in death metal too seriously. They're constantly laughing at themselves and always have a good sense of humour. I've also found them to be more polite and more knowledgeable in music than most other musicians. I've never witnessed the members of a death metal band misbehave towards studio personnel or the organizers of a music festival. I can't say the same about guys that do hiphop or dance music.

you seem to be a fan of the genre and I respect where you're coming from. Metal people have always been really cool to me and I appreciate their sense of humor. But still, I think the music has much more to do with a desire to alienate most everyone around you than it does enjoying the songs.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #72 posted 02/28/12 11:31am

JoeTyler

A pure aberration, a bastard subgenre, the ugly witch of heavy-metal which destroyed metal's credibility during the early/mid-90s

a wall of tiresome, repetitive agression and bullshit.

and by the way, OLD SCHOOL death metal is BY FAR worse than the MELODIC death metal song of the OP

old skool thrash metal is the last frontier for me, there's no way I'll go harder than that

[Edited 2/28/12 11:37am]

tinkerbell
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #73 posted 02/28/12 12:57pm

rialb

avatar

breese said:

novabrkr said:

I'll make you a few comparisons with funk music so that you'll understand what it's about.

The growled vocals are just another way to use the human voice as an instrument. Falsetto is at one end of the spectrum, growling is at the other. Do you consider the high-pitched vocals of Prince, Curtis Mayfield or the Bees somehow more natural and less silly? I personally don't. Some funk vocals also imitate the timbres of the other sounds used in the music (such as wah wah guitars and filtered synth sounds) and the same can be said about the vocals used in metal. It blends in with the rest of the sounds used.

Most "extreme metal" bands do not use their horror and gore imagery in a more "serious" sense than funk bands use theirs. There's a lot of irony to be found on the titles and band names ("Transilvanian Hunger", "Infecting The Crypts", "Cryptopsy", "Vader"). A lot of the stuff borders on nonsense intentionally, which is not different from what groups like Parliament / Funkadelic have been doing. So why is it okay for your favourite bands to use irony and exaggerated imagery and not okay for some others?

I've never met anyone that plays in a death metal band that would have taken the themes used in death metal too seriously. They're constantly laughing at themselves and always have a good sense of humour. I've also found them to be more polite and more knowledgeable in music than most other musicians. I've never witnessed the members of a death metal band misbehave towards studio personnel or the organizers of a music festival. I can't say the same about guys that do hiphop or dance music.

you seem to be a fan of the genre and I respect where you're coming from. Metal people have always been really cool to me and I appreciate their sense of humor. But still, I think the music has much more to do with a desire to alienate most everyone around you than it does enjoying the songs.

Eh, Death Metal was never for me but I can see the appeal. It's all about the aggression. If you are a pissed off teenager it makes you feel better to blast aggressive music really loud.

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Page 3 of 3 <123
  New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
« Previous topic  Next topic »
Forums > Music: Non-Prince > Is death metal really music?