smoothcriminal12 said:

breese said:

why wouldn't a pissed off 15 year old love this? I know I did. Okay, I topped off at Reign In Blood. This shit was always unlistenable to me.

Eh. Black kids got they rap, white kids got they death metal, everyone's happy.

Before reading all the posts, I was going to say that death metal is just as listenable/unlistenable as rap music is to me.

sextonseven said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

Eh. Black kids got they rap, white kids got they death metal, everyone's happy.

Before reading all the posts, I was going to say that death metal is just as listenable/unlistenable as rap music is to me.

You transcend race.

..the fuck was that shit?

That was awful.

Well, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

That's really all I can say. It's not my cup of tea but alright...if it floats other people's boat...

When I was in college,one of the roommates used to listen to this stuff.It drove me crazy

Yeah, it sounds horrible but at least it ain't shit hop.

smoothcriminal12 said:

breese said:

why wouldn't a pissed off 15 year old love this? I know I did. Okay, I topped off at Reign In Blood. This shit was always unlistenable to me.

Eh. Black kids got they rap, white kids got they death metal, everyone's happy.

Wrong. White kids got rap too. That's why it won't die.

You're kidding me?

The video you posted isn't even death metal by any standards.

Death metal:

Of course it's music.

Now try this:

Matters if it is the good death metal, like Slayer:

Or SOD:

My boy King Diamond:

UDO bitches:

Now that's a fucking singer.

SoulAlive said:

When I was in college,one of the roommates used to listen to this stuff.It drove me crazy

novabrkr said:

You're kidding me?

The video you posted isn't even death metal by any standards.

Death metal:

Of course it's music.

I respect their musicianship and all, but I can't listen to that guy for 5 seconds without bursting out laughing. I don't know how anyone who isn't some kind of retarded douchebag could take that the least bit seriously. And the name of the song is hilarious as well: 'Surgery of Impalement'. These guys appear to be actual adult men. Who apparently didn't get a lot of hugs growing up.

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Gunsnhalen said:

RKJCNE said:

One man's dirt is another man's gold.

Personally I think it's garbage.

Kind of like how me & you where talking about how The Grateful Dead are

But to others there the best thing in the history of ever then the day after ever.

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exactly.

just like how some people actually like Tyler the Creator

It's ironic that people can put down and joke about music other people like, but get offended when it's done to them.

I was never really into the "cookie monster vocals" but of course Death Metal is really music. Think of it this way, if you wiped off the vocals and had a "proper" singer re-record them would you consider it to be music? Sure you would. Musically I don't see how you can say that Death Metal is not really music. Some of those drummers are among the most skilled in the world. Vocally? That may be a bit tougher but they are still "singing" melodies so I think it qualifies as music.

Someone else mentioned this before but it really is a lot easier to appreciate Death Metal if you are a pissed off fifteen year old. Something about the aggression in the music really connects with that demographic.

vainandy said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

Eh. Black kids got they rap, white kids got they death metal, everyone's happy.

Wrong. White kids got rap too. That's why it won't die.

TRUST me, I know.

And Vain, you should know that this is 100000x worse than "shit hop".

smoothcriminal12 said:

vainandy said:

Wrong. White kids got rap too. That's why it won't die.

TRUST me, I know.

And Vain, you should know that this is 100000x worse than "shit hop".

Depends on how you look at it. Death Metal has a very fringe audience. "Shit hop" is arguably the most popular music of the current era. A case could be made, and vainandy has made that case many times, that "shit hop" is doing much more damage to music than Death Metal could ever do.

smoothcriminal12 said:

vainandy said:

Wrong. White kids got rap too. That's why it won't die.

TRUST me, I know.

And Vain, you should know that this is 100000x worse than "shit hop".

There's real instruments in death metal. I've heard drums guitar and bass in it. They may be played horribly in death metal but at least they are instruments. Shit hop is a slow weak sounding drum machine beat with some talking on top of it and maybe a sample of someone else's record thrown in.

vainandy said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

TRUST me, I know.

And Vain, you should know that this is 100000x worse than "shit hop".

There's real instruments in death metal. I've heard drums guitar and bass in it. They may be played horribly in death metal but at least they are instruments. Shit hop is a slow weak sounding drum machine beat with some talking on top of it and maybe a sample of someone else's record thrown in.

Real instruments are used in some hip-hop too.

rialb said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

TRUST me, I know.

And Vain, you should know that this is 100000x worse than "shit hop".

Depends on how you look at it. Death Metal has a very fringe audience. "Shit hop" is arguably the most popular music of the current era. A case could be made, and vainandy has made that case many times, that "shit hop" is doing much more damage to music than Death Metal could ever do.

Very true! It's kinda like not liking symphonies but still respecting and realizing that they are real music even though you don't like them. Plus, death metal, like symphonies, only has it's small audience which hasn't taken over the radio and driven everything else out. I have no problem with genres that are no threat to the good stuff's existence.

smoothcriminal12 said:

vainandy said:

There's real instruments in death metal. I've heard drums guitar and bass in it. They may be played horribly in death metal but at least they are instruments. Shit hop is a slow weak sounding drum machine beat with some talking on top of it and maybe a sample of someone else's record thrown in.

Real instruments are used in some hip-hop too.

Uh....did I say hip hop? No, I said shit hop. There's a difference. Yeah, I could go way back and find plenty of good old stuff from the extreme early 1980s. Shit hop is that slow to midtempo, stripped down, talking over a beat mess. And if the person has a thug look or attitude, throw them in the shit hop category too.

vainandy said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

Real instruments are used in some hip-hop too.

Uh....did I say hip hop? No, I said shit hop. There's a difference. Yeah, I could go way back and find plenty of good old stuff from the extreme early 1980s. Shit hop is that slow to midtempo, stripped down, talking over a beat mess. And if the person has a thug look or attitude, throw them in the shit hop category too.

vainandy said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

Real instruments are used in some hip-hop too.

Uh....did I say hip hop? No, I said shit hop. There's a difference. Yeah, I could go way back and find plenty of good old stuff from the extreme early 1980s. Shit hop is that slow to midtempo, stripped down, talking over a beat mess. And if the person has a thug look or attitude, throw them in the shit hop category too.

Don't you dare put 2Pac in a category with 50 Cent

aardvark15 said:

vainandy said:

Uh....did I say hip hop? No, I said shit hop. There's a difference. Yeah, I could go way back and find plenty of good old stuff from the extreme early 1980s. Shit hop is that slow to midtempo, stripped down, talking over a beat mess. And if the person has a thug look or attitude, throw them in the shit hop category too.

Don't you dare put 2Pac in a category with 50 Cent

I called Tupac shit hop from day one. Death doesn't change my opinion of him.

I actually really liked it. I don't have much Death Metal, the main culprit for me is Opeth.

this i suppose is classed as Death Metal. I LOVE this

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rialb is right, while the vocals in death metal are

As i mentioned earlier, from a musicians stand point there is some good stuff. If Rob Halford or Bruce Dickinson where to sing on these song's instead. Then it would be easier on the ears to listen to for the casual metal fan

A large fallacy I see is that people assume a certain style is better just because it uses instruments.

smoothcriminal12 said:

A large fallacy I see is that people assume a certain style is better just because it uses instruments.

I never sais it was better

All i'm saying is they are good instrumentalist is all i was saying.

Look even some of the worst shit you can find SOMETHING decent to stay about it.

Example i hate club music, Rihanna, Lady Manga, Katy Puuuury, LMFAO ETC. But a lot of it is well produced, i still IMO think it's shit but i admit it's well produced.

See what i mean ?

Sure it’s music. But over time most extreme metal bands have evolved into three or four virtuoso musicians playing mathematically compatible solo parts while another guy grunts off rhythm. So there isn’t much room for complexity other than high-speed guitar solos and games with time signatures. I got bored with most of it and went back to listening to music that actually has rests and melodies.

Gunsnhalen said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

A large fallacy I see is that people assume a certain style is better just because it uses instruments.

I never sais it was better

All i'm saying is they are good instrumentalist is all i was saying.

Look even some of the worst shit you can find SOMETHING decent to stay about it.

Example i hate club music, Rihanna, Lady Manga, Katy Puuuury, LMFAO ETC. But a lot of it is well produced, i still IMO think it's shit but i admit it's well produced.

See what i mean ?

I wasn't referring to you.

smoothcriminal12 said:

Gunsnhalen said:

I never sais it was better

All i'm saying is they are good instrumentalist is all i was saying.

Look even some of the worst shit you can find SOMETHING decent to stay about it.

Example i hate club music, Rihanna, Lady Manga, Katy Puuuury, LMFAO ETC. But a lot of it is well produced, i still IMO think it's shit but i admit it's well produced.

See what i mean ?

I wasn't referring to you.

Still had to just make that point or pernt :d