lazycrockett said:

Yeah but only MJ fans and maybe some Vadge fans flood the boards with stupid horseshit threads bout their stans. Yall got other sites to love your Idols this doesnt need to be one of them.

Really you aren't coming to the org. to disguss mj.

But this is a section about all music that does not belong to Prince. I don`t go to the MJ fan sites, I don`t like discussing his personal life and other things that not relate to his work. I like him as an artist, not more than that.
I don`t understand why we can`t talk about the album Dangerous and Bad tour in the section, where discusses all the music.
It's a strange policy.

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Recently on The Beatles fan site someone started again, the topic of MJ, the moderator wrote him: we have a topic of lively Jackson, we have topic of dead Jackson .... enough.
Poor Mikey, he is a permanent derelict

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nursev said:

SoulAlive said:

my favorites: Billie Jean,Human Nature,The Lady In My Life and Beat It.

I kinda feel sorry for Baby Be Mine.It's a great track but it was overshadowed by all the other great songs on the album

It should have been a major hit-its just that good

It definitely could have been a hit.Ditto for The Lady In My Life.If those two songs had been released it singles,this would have been the only (non-greatest hits) album in history where *every* song was released as a single!

TROR said:

Off the Wall was better.

I agree,Off The Wall is the better album.

Guys, come on. We all know the correct answer
Dangerous - it is far the best album

"Girlfriend" and "It's The Falling In Love" are great songs!! The latter could have been a single. To me,Off The Wall is a flawless album.

Emancipation89 said:

In what way do you think Off the Wall is a better album? Just wanna know..

Song for song,I think it's a stronger album.It has more funk and R&B than Thriller,which was obviously designed to be more of a 'pop' album....not that there's anything wrong with that.

I Can't Help It is just heavenly.A masterpiece!! I really wish that Michael had done more songs like this.The slow songs on Thriller are fantastic,but they can't compare to this song.

Rock With You,Off The Wall,Get On The Floor,and the relentless Working Day And Night are dancefloor CLASSICS....these are among the finest uptempo jams that Michael has ever done.

SoulAlive said:

Emancipation89 said:

In what way do you think Off the Wall is a better album? Just wanna know..

Song for song,I think it's a stronger album.It has more funk and R&B than Thriller,which was obviously designed to be more of a 'pop' album....not that there's anything wrong with that.

I Can't Help It is just heavenly.A masterpiece!! I really wish that Michael had done more songs like this.The slow songs on Thriller are fantastic,but they can't compare to this song.

Rock With You,Off The Wall,Get On The Floor,and the relentless Working Day And Night are dancefloor CLASSICS....these are among the finest uptempo jams that Michael has ever done.

Interesting, I agree I Can't Help It is a great song. It has beautiful jazz sound to it. But I think Human Nature can beat that one

All those songs are great, I completely agree. They all share the similar concept; funky dance jams. And I always thought DSTYGE and Working Day & Night sound a bit similar to each other.

But in Thriller, while Wanna Be Starting Something and Baby Be Mine carry that off the wall disco/funk vibe, there's rock oriented song Beat It, pure dance pop Billie Jean, r&b ballad Lady in my life...it's so fresh and the entire album as a whole is completely different from his previous albums.

In the end, I think I appreciate the diversity in Thriller more than OTW. People say OTW album was MJ's breakthrough album from the Jacksons era, but to me it still sounds a lot like Destiny/Triumph era, only it has ballads in it.

*sings like Enrique Iglesias* nothing is forbidden anymore

LiLi1992 said:

I do not know how long this thread will live. I'm tired of these double standards .... why the sticky topic just about MJ? There are artists, who are popular on this forum not less than Jackson, and have sometimes to 4-5 on the first page.

return to the Thriller .......

It`s the perfect pop album, one of the greatest ever, but not one of my favorite in the discography of MJ.
Beat it - a favorite song on the album.

Were you not here before the sticky?? At several points, a third of the front page was MJ related. Even with the sticky people can't help but start another thread.

Emancipation89 said:

SoulAlive said:

Song for song,I think it's a stronger album.It has more funk and R&B than Thriller,which was obviously designed to be more of a 'pop' album....not that there's anything wrong with that.

I Can't Help It is just heavenly.A masterpiece!! I really wish that Michael had done more songs like this.The slow songs on Thriller are fantastic,but they can't compare to this song.

Rock With You,Off The Wall,Get On The Floor,and the relentless Working Day And Night are dancefloor CLASSICS....these are among the finest uptempo jams that Michael has ever done.

Interesting, I agree I Can't Help It is a great song. It has beautiful jazz sound to it. But I think Human Nature can beat that one

All those songs are great, I completely agree. They all share the similar concept; funky dance jams. And I always thought DSTYGE and Working Day & Night sound a bit similar to each other.

But in Thriller, while Wanna Be Starting Something and Baby Be Mine carry that off the wall disco/funk vibe, there's rock oriented song Beat It, pure dance pop Billie Jean, r&b ballad Lady in my life...it's so fresh and the entire album as a whole is completely different from his previous albums.

In the end, I think I appreciate the diversity in Thriller more than OTW. People say OTW album was MJ's breakthrough album from the Jacksons era, but to me it still sounds a lot like Destiny/Triumph era, only it has ballads in it.

I agree,Thriller is more diversified than OTW.But I think OTW has better songs

SquirrelMeat said:

LiLi1992 said:

I do not know how long this thread will live. I'm tired of these double standards .... why the sticky topic just about MJ? There are artists, who are popular on this forum not less than Jackson, and have sometimes to 4-5 on the first page.

return to the Thriller .......

It`s the perfect pop album, one of the greatest ever, but not one of my favorite in the discography of MJ.
Beat it - a favorite song on the album.

Were you not here before the sticky?? At several points, a third of the front page was MJ related. Even with the sticky people can't help but start another thread.

Really??
I began to go to the forum just a year ago, at this time a sticky has already been .

LiLi1992 said:

JabarR74 said:

This belongs in the MJ thread!!!!!

Why?
Many people are not interested in his personal life, they don`t care about the family, etc.

Where you can discuss the music and videos?
It`s not fair.
Other artists sometimes have 5 threads on the first page, I don`t think MJ ever had more

Co sign..

SoulAlive said:

"Girlfriend" and "It's The Falling In Love" are great songs!! The latter could have been a single. To me,Off The Wall is a flawless album.

Co sign

Timmy84 said:

TripMX said:

Timmy84 said:

Growing up, I thought "Billie Jean" was the leading single.

Hahaha me too! Billie Jean was like the best MJ song back when I was a kid in my opinion.

In the opinion of the majority of music critics and music lovers too.
While Billie Jean is not my lover not my favorite song, I can understand why most people love it so much.

mjscarousal said:

SoulAlive said:

"Girlfriend" and "It's The Falling In Love" are great songs!! The latter could have been a single. To me,Off The Wall is a flawless album.

Co sign

I don't understand why "Girlfriend" gets alot of hate.It's a good song! A wonderful remake of a Paul McCartney song.

SoulAlive said:

my favorites: Billie Jean,Human Nature,The Lady In My Life and Beat It.

I kinda feel sorry for Baby Be Mine.It's a great track but it was overshadowed by all the other great songs on the album

"Baby Be Mine" is my fave MJ song! I can't believe it wasn't a single/hit!

From top to bottom, for me.

Baby Be Mine

PYT

Human Nature

Billie Jean

The Lady in my Life
Thriller

Beat It

Wanna Be Startin Somethin

...The Girl is Mine...

UGH!

If that dammnnn song wasn't on there it would be perfect from beginning to end.

badujunkie said:

...The Girl is Mine...

UGH!

If that dammnnn song wasn't on there it would be perfect from beginning to end.

I'm not a big fan of the song, BUT it is quite symbolic that the duo consist of the biggest solo artist and the representative of the biggest music act ever.
This song is OK for me.

Purple Rain kicks it in the nuts.

Just wanted to say the obvious.

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novabrkr said:

Purple Rain kicks it in the nuts.

Just wanted to say the obvious.

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obvious to whom?
definitely not for the general public or the majority of music critics.

Although Thriller is not one of my favorite albums (although I like it), but this does not diminish the impact and world popularity.
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Personally, I like Purple rain much more, but phrases like "kicks it in the nuts" can only be found on the Prince fan site, let's be honest

My favorites from the album are: "Baby Be Mine", "Human Nature" and "The Lady In My Life".

"Billie Jean" and "Beat It" are obvious classics as well, though played to death (by myself, and the general public).

"Thriller" I don't like - the video is great, but the song alone [without visuals] is worthless to me.

"The Girl Is Mine" and "PYT" are filler tracks... Any 80s r&b artist could've done those songs, and nobody would call them classics..

Overall, it doesn't work as an album for me. Having "Thriller" (about zombies) and "Beat It" (about gang violence) in the middle of the album throws the album completely off-track for me. Those two songs should've been at the end of the album.

On the other hand, Off The Wall is my least favorite MJ album (from 1979-2001). Bad is still his creative peak.

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Emancipation89 said:

SoulAlive said:

I agree,Off The Wall is the better album.

Off the Wall, to me, has great disco-incorporated pop songs but 2 out of 10 songs are below average... 'Girlfriend' and 'It's the falling in love'.

+ "I Can't Help It" & "Burn This Disco Out"

The other six songs are all classics, imo.. but not those four.

I really prefer Off the Wall to Thriller. Damn near every song on Thriller is perfect, but there's a gritty, experimental, edgy flavor to Off the Wall that I think really makes it magical. Songs like "I Can't Help It", the title track, "Rock With You", "Don't Stop Till You Get Enough", "Burn This Disco Out"... I mean those are songs no one can touch.

When it comes to male pop solos, MJ really set the bar impossibly high with OTW and Thriller. For sheer personality alone, though, OTW is my all-time favorite. I don't even rate Bad or Dangerous, though both great albums, anywhere near OTW.

SquirrelMeat said:

LiLi1992 said:

I do not know how long this thread will live. I'm tired of these double standards .... why the sticky topic just about MJ? There are artists, who are popular on this forum not less than Jackson, and have sometimes to 4-5 on the first page.

return to the Thriller .......

It`s the perfect pop album, one of the greatest ever, but not one of my favorite in the discography of MJ.
Beat it - a favorite song on the album.

Were you not here before the sticky?? At several points, a third of the front page was MJ related. Even with the sticky people can't help but start another thread.

Michael is not the only artist that gets multiple threads. Just look around. None of them get's pushed into one single thread. This just shows that Prince fans still feel threatened by him.

LiLi1992 said:

novabrkr said:

Purple Rain kicks it in the nuts.

Just wanted to say the obvious.

[Edited 2/28/12 1:14am]

obvious to whom?
definitely not for the general public or the majority of music critics.

Although Thriller is not one of my favorite albums (although I like it), but this does not diminish the impact and world popularity.
----------------
Personally, I like Purple rain much more, but phrases like "kicks it in the nuts" can only be found on the Prince fan site, let's be honest

It should be obvous to everyone that Purple Rain kicks Thriller in the nuts on all areas except commercial performance.

Seriously though, Michael has never gotten that great album reviews from the critics. The "A+" / "*****" reviews you can find for the album from sources like Wikipedia offer a limited view on its general reception.

CrabalockerFishwife said:

Emancipation89 said:

Off the Wall, to me, has great disco-incorporated pop songs but 2 out of 10 songs are below average... 'Girlfriend' and 'It's the falling in love'.

+ "I Can't Help It" & "Burn This Disco Out"

The other six songs are all classics, imo.. but not those four.

"I Can't Help It" is Michael at his soulful best.That song is mindblowing!

novabrkr said:

LiLi1992 said:

obvious to whom?
definitely not for the general public or the majority of music critics.

Although Thriller is not one of my favorite albums (although I like it), but this does not diminish the impact and world popularity.
----------------
Personally, I like Purple rain much more, but phrases like "kicks it in the nuts" can only be found on the Prince fan site, let's be honest

It should be obvous to everyone that Purple Rain kicks Thriller in the nuts on all areas except commercial performance.

Seriously though, Michael has never gotten that great album reviews from the critics. The "A+" / "*****" reviews you can find for the album from sources like Wikipedia offer a limited view on its general reception.

Do you always rely on critics to tell you what is good or not or what you should hear or not?

novabrkr said:

LiLi1992 said:

obvious to whom?
definitely not for the general public or the majority of music critics.

Although Thriller is not one of my favorite albums (although I like it), but this does not diminish the impact and world popularity.
----------------
Personally, I like Purple rain much more, but phrases like "kicks it in the nuts" can only be found on the Prince fan site, let's be honest

It should be obvous to everyone that Purple Rain kicks Thriller in the nuts on all areas except commercial performance.

Seriously though, Michael has never gotten that great album reviews from the critics. The "A+" / "*****" reviews you can find for the album from sources like Wikipedia offer a limited view on its general reception.

Umm...I wonder which LP "listens" better today as a whole LP vs individual songs? How have they held up to time? I don't fully agree w/ you because I can appreciate how well crafted "Thriller" was because it accomplished EXACTLY what it set out to do....which was have something for everyone. "Purple Rain" was coming from an entirely different place. However, I think "Thriller" sounds far more dated than "Purple Rain", yet I listen to neither album frequently!

novabrkr said:

LiLi1992 said:

obvious to whom?
definitely not for the general public or the majority of music critics.

Although Thriller is not one of my favorite albums (although I like it), but this does not diminish the impact and world popularity.
----------------
Personally, I like Purple rain much more, but phrases like "kicks it in the nuts" can only be found on the Prince fan site, let's be honest

It should be obvous to everyone that Purple Rain kicks Thriller in the nuts on all areas except commercial performance.

Seriously though, Michael has never gotten that great album reviews from the critics. The "A+" / "*****" reviews you can find for the album from sources like Wikipedia offer a limited view on its general reception.

Let me guess, Purple rain is better than Thriller on all areas because some critics say so?

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