Timmy84 said:

BitetheBeat said:

Could've been a friend of whoever went(if not a worker)...snuck & got the access from a person who went & took a pic just for themselves. I'm still wondering if the Brown's got a private view.

[Edited 2/22/12 13:05pm]

I doubt it. The families had been at odds for years. I almost didn't wanna believe they did but judging from the memorial service, it spoke volumes on how Bobby and his family were treated. A shame they couldn't come together to pay their respects yet the Winans are hooping and hollering. Fuck that.

Let it go already. Bobby Brown is disgusting. Whitney's attorney clarified in an interview what occured. Bobby agreed to sit with the familiy in the first 3 rows, his kids were suppose to sit with Tommy elsewhere. The church was packed and this was the seating arrangement worked out and agreed to by bobby..

It was also stated in the agreement that he was not suppose to attempt to contact Krissi unless she made a move to contact him. He brought his kids up there to sit with the family and was told that he could stay but the kids had to be seated with the uncle as agreed . He then violated the agreement again and attempted to contact krissi to get her to interview.

How insensitive. This was when security stepped in and redicrected him. At no time was he told to leave. He got pissed, got up blew a kiss to the casket , bounced, released a statement to the media and then went on to play a concert.

This is how the story went down. Again he attempted to make it about him. Krissi is near 19, if she wanted to talk to her dad, she would have, she's not a baby. He should have stayed out of respect instead of violating the agreement and getting mad.

Over him to.

Listen to Mark Trigg, the houston attorney interview here www.popaddicts.com

and who ever took that picture, special place in hell. My bet is on a funeral home employee or bodyguard ray if he was there. Pat Houston would never,

Entertainer said:

Timmy84 said:

I doubt it. The families had been at odds for years. I almost didn't wanna believe they did but judging from the memorial service, it spoke volumes on how Bobby and his family were treated. A shame they couldn't come together to pay their respects yet the Winans are hooping and hollering. Fuck that.

Let it go already. Bobby Brown is disgusting. Whitney's attorney clarified in an interview what occured. Bobby agreed to sit with the familiy in the first 3 rows, his kids were suppose to sit with Tommy elsewhere. The church was packed and this was the seating arrangement worked out and agreed to by bobby..

It was also stated in the agreement that he was not suppose to attempt to contact Krissi unless she made a move to contact him. He brought his kids up there to sit with the family and was told that he could stay but the kids had to be seated with the uncle as agreed . He then violated the agreement again and attempted to contact krissi to get her to interview.

How insensitive. This was when security stepped in and redicrected him. At no time was he told to leave. He got pissed, got up blew a kiss to the casket , bounced, released a statement to the media and then went on to play a concert.

This is how the story went down. Again he attempted to make it about him. Krissi is near 19, if she wanted to talk to her dad, she would have, she's not a baby. He should have stayed out of respect instead of violating the agreement and getting mad.

Over him to.

Listen to Mark Trigg, the houston attorney interview here www.popaddicts.com

and who ever took that picture, special place in hell. My bet is on a funeral home employee or bodyguard ray if he was there. Pat Houston would never,

You don't think Pat is sneaky?

Timmy84 said:

Entertainer said:

Let it go already. Bobby Brown is disgusting. Whitney's attorney clarified in an interview what occured. Bobby agreed to sit with the familiy in the first 3 rows, his kids were suppose to sit with Tommy elsewhere. The church was packed and this was the seating arrangement worked out and agreed to by bobby..

It was also stated in the agreement that he was not suppose to attempt to contact Krissi unless she made a move to contact him. He brought his kids up there to sit with the family and was told that he could stay but the kids had to be seated with the uncle as agreed . He then violated the agreement again and attempted to contact krissi to get her to interview.

How insensitive. This was when security stepped in and redicrected him. At no time was he told to leave. He got pissed, got up blew a kiss to the casket , bounced, released a statement to the media and then went on to play a concert.

This is how the story went down. Again he attempted to make it about him. Krissi is near 19, if she wanted to talk to her dad, she would have, she's not a baby. He should have stayed out of respect instead of violating the agreement and getting mad.

Over him to.

Listen to Mark Trigg, the houston attorney interview here www.popaddicts.com

and who ever took that picture, special place in hell. My bet is on a funeral home employee or bodyguard ray if he was there. Pat Houston would never,

You don't think Pat is sneaky?

I have issues with Pat Houston is that she did not manage Whitney like the super star she was but I have no doubt that she loved and cared for whitney. I'm sure she will continue to be pivotal in dealing with whitney's estate and krissi's inheritance so she didn't need to do that. She was compensated well despite tabloid lies that whitney was broke. She's married to whitney's brother for goodness sake.

I don' think for a minute, she would have done that. She's been with and seen whitney at her lowest and could have sold her out then but Tina brown did that. Pat would never.

Entertainer said:

Timmy84 said:

You don't think Pat is sneaky?

I have issues with Pat Houston is that she did not manage Whitney like the super star she was but I have no doubt that she loved and cared for whitney. I'm sure she will continue to be pivotal in dealing with whitney's estate and krissi's inheritance so she didn't need to do that. She was compensated well despite tabloid lies that whitney was broke. She's married to whitney's brother for goodness sake.

I don' think for a minute, she would have done that. She's been with and seen whitney at her lowest and could have sold her out then but Tina brown did that. Pat would never.

Hmm I don't know... it may be just an assumption but I just don't know about that woman. Maybe she did but who knows? It just seems sneaky to do that to someone.

Entertainer said:

Timmy84 said:

I doubt it. The families had been at odds for years. I almost didn't wanna believe they did but judging from the memorial service, it spoke volumes on how Bobby and his family were treated. A shame they couldn't come together to pay their respects yet the Winans are hooping and hollering. Fuck that.

Let it go already. Bobby Brown is disgusting. Whitney's attorney clarified in an interview what occured. Bobby agreed to sit with the familiy in the first 3 rows, his kids were suppose to sit with Tommy elsewhere. The church was packed and this was the seating arrangement worked out and agreed to by bobby..

It was also stated in the agreement that he was not suppose to attempt to contact Krissi unless she made a move to contact him. He brought his kids up there to sit with the family and was told that he could stay but the kids had to be seated with the uncle as agreed . He then violated the agreement again and attempted to contact krissi to get her to interview.

How insensitive. This was when security stepped in and redicrected him. At no time was he told to leave. He got pissed, got up blew a kiss to the casket , bounced, released a statement to the media and then went on to play a concert.

This is how the story went down. Again he attempted to make it about him. Krissi is near 19, if she wanted to talk to her dad, she would have, she's not a baby. He should have stayed out of respect instead of violating the agreement and getting mad.

Over him to.

Listen to Mark Trigg, the houston attorney interview here www.popaddicts.com

and who ever took that picture, special place in hell. My bet is on a funeral home employee or bodyguard ray if he was there. Pat Houston would never,

I agree, its always got to be about him. I guess its cool for some since he hasn't been in the news this much since the divorce. I'm just tired of seeing his name and face. I'm like there is so much more to report, he is damn near a non m-f factor.

[Edited 2/22/12 16:46pm]

Timmy! Holler at your girl-how come you don't trust Tina and Pat and what started the feud between the Brown and Houston families?

Entertainer said:

Bobby Brown is disgusting. Whitney's attorney clarified in an interview what occured. Bobby agreed to sit with the familiy in the first 3 rows, his kids were suppose to sit with Tommy elsewhere. The church was packed and this was the seating arrangement worked out and agreed to by bobby..

It was also stated in the agreement that he was not suppose to attempt to contact Krissi unless she made a move to contact him. He brought his kids up there to sit with the family and was told that he could stay but the kids had to be seated with the uncle as agreed . He then violated the agreement again and attempted to contact krissi to get her to interview.

How insensitive. This was when security stepped in and redicrected him. At no time was he told to leave. He got pissed, got up blew a kiss to the casket , bounced, released a statement to the media and then went on to play a concert.

This is how the story went down. Again he attempted to make it about him. Krissi is near 19, if she wanted to talk to her dad, she would have, she's not a baby. He should have stayed out of respect instead of violating the agreement and getting mad.

I know everyone is on the "Railroad Bobby" Traintrack, but really how much effort would it have been to sit 10 people. They made the group move 3 times. Its a funeral. All this could have been avoided if people just calmed the fuck down and dealt with it like adults. I swear people show their true nature at times like that. At the end everyone looked like fuckin assholes.

lazycrockett said:

I know everyone is on the "Railroad Bobby" Traintrack, but really how much effort would it have been to sit 10 people. They made the group move 3 times. Its a funeral. All this could have been avoided if people just calmed the fuck down and dealt with it like adults. I swear people show their true nature at times like that. At the end everyone looked like fuckin assholes.

With their heads cut off like chickens at that...

lazycrockett said:

I know everyone is on the "Railroad Bobby" Traintrack, but really how much effort would it have been to sit 10 people. They made the group move 3 times. Its a funeral. All this could have been avoided if people just calmed the fuck down and dealt with it like adults. I swear people show their true nature at times like that. At the end everyone looked like fuckin assholes.

your right. couple with the fact the Aretha 4 seats went unused..

banks said:

lazycrockett said:

I know everyone is on the "Railroad Bobby" Traintrack, but really how much effort would it have been to sit 10 people. They made the group move 3 times. Its a funeral. All this could have been avoided if people just calmed the fuck down and dealt with it like adults. I swear people show their true nature at times like that. At the end everyone looked like fuckin assholes.

your right. couple with the fact the Aretha 4 seats went unused..

I wonder if Aretha and her sons were gonna be there now that you said "four seats". Bobby only had his children (three of them), his brother and Alicia (not 9 as the media speculated). Tommy and Alicia could've sat at where Aretha and 'em were supposed to sit and Bobby and the three stepchildren around Krissy and Cissy. That wouldn't have been hard to do but security were probably assholes on that day. Probably more than they should've. Everyone's aware of Bobby and his treatment of Whitney but he didn't kill her.

Timmy84 said:

banks said:

your right. couple with the fact the Aretha 4 seats went unused..

I wonder if Aretha and her sons were gonna be there now that you said "four seats". Bobby only had his children (three of them), his brother and Alicia (not 9 as the media speculated). Tommy and Alicia could've sat at where Aretha and 'em were supposed to sit and Bobby and the three stepchildren around Krissy and Cissy. That wouldn't have been hard to do but security were probably assholes on that day. Probably more than they should've. Everyone's aware of Bobby and his treatment of Whitney but he didn't kill her.

Im sure the ones around at that time got prime seats.

lazycrockett said:

Timmy84 said:

I wonder if Aretha and her sons were gonna be there now that you said "four seats". Bobby only had his children (three of them), his brother and Alicia (not 9 as the media speculated). Tommy and Alicia could've sat at where Aretha and 'em were supposed to sit and Bobby and the three stepchildren around Krissy and Cissy. That wouldn't have been hard to do but security were probably assholes on that day. Probably more than they should've. Everyone's aware of Bobby and his treatment of Whitney but he didn't kill her.

Im sure the ones around at that time got prime seats.

Yeah Kim's jumpoff/Brandy's brother... just hours before he got Whitney was dead he was hobnobbing with Clive's old stingy ass.

Terrib3Towel said:

She was "sedated?" And who the hell even knows. At this point I don't even care. Bobby made a complete ASS out of himself. That tells me that him and BK aren't even close. He's probably like that with all his damn kids. Whitney had them all livin' up in her house.

Explain 2 me how he made an ASS of himself? He didn't feel welcome so he left. He didn’t hurt anyone except those that have shit 2 say like yourself. I would have done the same. So many people have had such negative things 2 say about Bobby. He had a right 2 be there, u and no one else know the real relationship between him and his daughter and how the tragic death have effected him. If he didn't show up at all I guest he would be an ASS also?

Timmy84 said:

lazycrockett said:

Im sure the ones around at that time got prime seats.

Yeah Kim's jumpoff/Brandy's brother... just hours before he got Whitney was dead he was hobnobbing with Clive's old stingy ass.

Shit Ray J seats seemed to be right behing Cissy and Bobbi Kris

pennylover said:

Terrib3Towel said:

She was "sedated?" And who the hell even knows. At this point I don't even care. Bobby made a complete ASS out of himself. That tells me that him and BK aren't even close. He's probably like that with all his damn kids. Whitney had them all livin' up in her house.

Explain 2 me how he made an ASS of himself? He didn't feel welcome so he left. He didn’t hurt anyone except those that have shit 2 say like yourself. I would have done the same. So many people have had such negative things 2 say about Bobby. He had a right 2 be there, u and no one else know the real relationship between him and his daughter and how the tragic death have effected him. If he didn't show up at all I guest he would be an ASS also?

Bobby can't win for trying anyway.

banks said:

Timmy84 said:

Yeah Kim's jumpoff/Brandy's brother... just hours before he got Whitney was dead he was hobnobbing with Clive's old stingy ass.

Shit Ray J seats seemed to be right behing Cissy and Bobbi Kris

That's what I couldn't get. I don't wanna hear "oh but they known each other for years", cut that crap... Ray J is a sneaky little bastard. He seems more foul than even Bobby's bipolar ass...

Fury said:

Released this week I looked

So did I. I didn't believe it was true. She looked beautiful.

Timmy84 said:

pennylover said:

Explain 2 me how he made an ASS of himself? He didn't feel welcome so he left. He didn’t hurt anyone except those that have shit 2 say like yourself. I would have done the same. So many people have had such negative things 2 say about Bobby. He had a right 2 be there, u and no one else know the real relationship between him and his daughter and how the tragic death have effected him. If he didn't show up at all I guest he would be an ASS also?

Bobby can't win for trying anyway.

Exactly..... It's really sad how he’s been treated. What really upset me was seeing Bobby's son in front of the church crying his heart out while Bobby tried 2 console him as they left the funeral

I just looked at the picture.She looked beautiful and at peace.

pennylover said:

Timmy84 said:

Bobby can't win for trying anyway.

Exactly..... It's really sad how he’s been treated. What really upset me was seeing Bobby's son in front of the church crying his heart out while Bobby tried 2 console him as they left the funeral

Exactly. This should've been handled better than it got handled.

Timmy84 said:

lazycrockett said:

Prescription meds kills more recovering addicts than the shit they were taking to begin with.

Right you could actually function on street drugs longer than you can on legal drugs. Sure you could die from street drugs (with weed being an exception; and there's still debate on whether weed is not really a drug though I think it is, hell it gets you high don't it? lol) either by overdose or from heart problems after years abusing yourself with it but prescription pills can kill you an instant if you do overdose on them. We almost lost Tina Turner because of that.

really I didn't know that about Tina.

and you are right about prescription drugs being harder, more deadly than street drugs.

Prescription drugs are concentrated and pure... not cut with a lot of filler. Also more likely prescription drugs are downers, opiates... and they tend to shut down the central nervous system.

That is your brain, your autonomic breathing center etc. You depress that... it doesn't take much or very long to stop breathing, slip into coma etc.

I can't think of very many prescription drugs that act like adrenaline (hype up the cns) except epinepherine, and other emergency drugs. And they are not abused very often.

Cocaine acts like adrenaline... it hypes everything up, make organs and systems work faster and harder. Gives you a lot of energy and I guess from that high energy you get euphoric.

Then you also have to think about how hard it is on the vital organs like kidney and liver when taking these prescription drugs. Unfortunately even LEGITIMATE use of prescription drugs can be TOXIC to kidney and liver... toxic.... meaning you are killing off your liver and kidney. These cells in these organs do not regenerate themselves like skin and bone. When you scar up your kidney and liver cells, they stay dead... they don't come back. And more importantly, they don't function anymore.

Enough of non functioning kidney cells, guess what?? Can you say dialysis??

prodigalfan said:

Timmy84 said:

Right you could actually function on street drugs longer than you can on legal drugs. Sure you could die from street drugs (with weed being an exception; and there's still debate on whether weed is not really a drug though I think it is, hell it gets you high don't it? lol) either by overdose or from heart problems after years abusing yourself with it but prescription pills can kill you an instant if you do overdose on them. We almost lost Tina Turner because of that.

really I didn't know that about Tina.

and you are right about prescription drugs being harder, more deadly than street drugs.

Prescription drugs are concentrated and pure... not cut with a lot of filler. Also more likely prescription drugs are downers, opiates... and they tend to shut down the central nervous system.

That is your brain, your autonomic breathing center etc. You depress that... it doesn't take much or very long to stop breathing, slip into coma etc.

I can't think of very many prescription drugs that act like adrenaline (hype up the cns) except epinepherine, and other emergency drugs. And they are not abused very often.

Cocaine acts like adrenaline... it hypes everything up, make organs and systems work faster and harder. Gives you a lot of energy and I guess from that high energy you get euphoric.

Then you also have to think about how hard it is on the vital organs like kidney and liver when taking these prescription drugs. Unfortunately even LEGITIMATE use of prescription drugs can be TOXIC to kidney and liver... toxic.... meaning you are killing off your liver and kidney. These cells in these organs do not regenerate themselves like skin and bone. When you scar up your kidney and liver cells, they stay dead... they don't come back. And more importantly, they don't function anymore.

Enough of non functioning kidney cells, guess what?? Can you say dialysis??

Yeah Tina attempted to take her life with 90 Hypnotic pills (sleeping pills). Thank God she survived it!

Yeah I heard how deadly prescription drugs are. It's shocking because you think they do what they claimed it's supposed to do: meditate.

Timmy84 said:

banks said:

Shit Ray J seats seemed to be right behing Cissy and Bobbi Kris

That's what I couldn't get. I don't wanna hear "oh but they known each other for years", cut that crap... Ray J is a sneaky little bastard. He seems more foul than even Bobby's bipolar ass...

Now I didn't know much about this Ray J except that he was in Kim K's sex video and supposedly Whitney's boy toy.

But I read on another site that people are saying that Ray J was actually Whitney's dealer... her connection/source.

also people are speculating (convincingly I may add) that when it was reported that "Ray" found Whitney... that it WAS Ray J. They point to all that food found in the room.

They speculate that the cheeseburger, fries and Heinekein beer was Ray J's and the turkey sandwich and champagne that was found in the bathroom was actually Whitney's.

I wasn't concious of my suspicion before but I guess something just didn't sit right about all that food. People saying that Whitney ate dinner and then took a turkey sandwich to eat in bath tub. That just didn't sound right to me... but I didn't really focus on that.

And also what is this I keep reading that Krissy had passed out in the bath tub the day before? And this man in the room below reporting water leaking from that Whitney's bathroom the day BEFORE she died.

People are saying that Bobbi Kristina passed out the day before and then Whitney died... they are speculating that Ray J sold Whitney some bad shit.

Just makes you go

Everybody focused on Bobby... he wasn't even in LA.... what about the one that was there with Whitney.

Timmy84 said:

prodigalfan said:

really I didn't know that about Tina.

and you are right about prescription drugs being harder, more deadly than street drugs.

Prescription drugs are concentrated and pure... not cut with a lot of filler. Also more likely prescription drugs are downers, opiates... and they tend to shut down the central nervous system.

That is your brain, your autonomic breathing center etc. You depress that... it doesn't take much or very long to stop breathing, slip into coma etc.

I can't think of very many prescription drugs that act like adrenaline (hype up the cns) except epinepherine, and other emergency drugs. And they are not abused very often.

Cocaine acts like adrenaline... it hypes everything up, make organs and systems work faster and harder. Gives you a lot of energy and I guess from that high energy you get euphoric.

Then you also have to think about how hard it is on the vital organs like kidney and liver when taking these prescription drugs. Unfortunately even LEGITIMATE use of prescription drugs can be TOXIC to kidney and liver... toxic.... meaning you are killing off your liver and kidney. These cells in these organs do not regenerate themselves like skin and bone. When you scar up your kidney and liver cells, they stay dead... they don't come back. And more importantly, they don't function anymore.

Enough of non functioning kidney cells, guess what?? Can you say dialysis??

Yeah Tina attempted to take her life with 90 Hypnotic pills (sleeping pills). Thank God she survived it!

Yeah I heard how deadly prescription drugs are. It's shocking because you think they do what they claimed it's supposed to do: meditate.

it is a fine line... a fine line. That is why people get blood work drawn to check kidney function etc while on certain drugs but it will most definitely kill the organs. Shut them DOWN.

In my field.... that dye we use to perform cardiac catheterizations will shut the kidneys down FOR GOOD. It is very important to check kidney function and if the numbers are not right... we will not do the case.... not a little cosmetic sort of thingy... we are dealing with possible heart blockages but if the kidneys aren't right... they will put off the heart, to fix the kidneys first.

prodigalfan said:

Timmy84 said:

That's what I couldn't get. I don't wanna hear "oh but they known each other for years", cut that crap... Ray J is a sneaky little bastard. He seems more foul than even Bobby's bipolar ass...

Now I didn't know much about this Ray J except that he was in Kim K's sex video and supposedly Whitney's boy toy.

But I read on another site that people are saying that Ray J was actually Whitney's dealer... her connection/source.

also people are speculating (convincingly I may add) that when it was reported that "Ray" found Whitney... that it WAS Ray J. They point to all that food found in the room.

They speculate that the cheeseburger, fries and Heinekein beer was Ray J's and the turkey sandwich and champagne that was found in the bathroom was actually Whitney's.

I wasn't concious of my suspicion before but I guess something just didn't sit right about all that food. People saying that Whitney ate dinner and then took a turkey sandwich to eat in bath tub. That just didn't sound right to me... but I didn't really focus on that.

And also what is this I keep reading that Krissy had passed out in the bath tub the day before? And this man in the room below reporting water leaking from that Whitney's bathroom the day BEFORE she died.

People are saying that Bobbi Kristina passed out the day before and then Whitney died... they are speculating that Ray J sold Whitney some bad shit.

Just makes you go

Everybody focused on Bobby... he wasn't even in LA.... what about the one that was there with Whitney.

In fact Whitney and Ray J were together the entire week they were in LA.

prodigalfan said:

Timmy84 said:

Yeah Tina attempted to take her life with 90 Hypnotic pills (sleeping pills). Thank God she survived it!

Yeah I heard how deadly prescription drugs are. It's shocking because you think they do what they claimed it's supposed to do: meditate.

it is a fine line... a fine line. That is why people get blood work drawn to check kidney function etc while on certain drugs but it will most definitely kill the organs. Shut them DOWN.

In my field.... that dye we use to perform cardiac catheterizations will shut the kidneys down FOR GOOD. It is very important to check kidney function and if the numbers are not right... we will not do the case.... not a little cosmetic sort of thingy... we are dealing with possible heart blockages but if the kidneys aren't right... they will put off the heart, to fix the kidneys first.

It's really a fine line and real thin at that. You could take one pill and drop dead in a second because the heart can't take anymore of that stuff. It's like dying from smoking too many cigarettes or drinking too much booze/liquor. Your heart just gives out.

Why would someone take a picture of her body in the private funeral???

And I do think their was something going on between her and Ray J...

I think it's tactless of them to do it too, but after reading about it here, I took a look and she looks well made up, but it was still disrespectful of whoever leaked it to do so. I'm glad no one did that with michael, and that pic that on magazines at first, it wasn't even real.

I don't like the whole practice of viewing a body in the coffin. I think it is more distressful and disrespectful to both the deceased and the survivors than having a closed casket...in my experience going to funerals. Why not remember what the loved one was like in life and alive rather than being forced to look at the shell of the person you loved which remains after the soul has flown?