You can't really tell from the video. I doubt it was crack though. At that stage in his career he would have been doing lots of coke, not crack.

lezama said:

You can't really tell from the video. I doubt it was crack though. At that stage in his career he would have been doing lots of coke, not crack.

lezama said:

You can't really tell from the video. I doubt it was crack though. At that stage in his career he would have been doing lots of coke, not crack.

"Crack is wack he made too much money 2 b smoking crack"..

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

BitetheBeat said:

When he got kicked out of N.E he went buck! He said it! Didn't he get kicked out in like 1986? He was smoking weed atleast B4 than as well. I wont point fingers BUT he was ahead of the game, just saying.

The whole N.E. was not squeaky clean themselves. They were doing everything & more.I hate when people always focus on Bobby like he was the only person doing naughty things. He just was a free spirit person & didn't hide anything like the others do.

We KNOW but atleast they are classy with their struggles when/if they had them...not out getting arrested, acting out, etc! They are in the public eye, why put it on display. Is that what free spirits do?! There is a line. Sorry for noticing some stuff over 20+ years! Poor Bobby right....

He DID have talent. It's ashame that he wasted it. He's really aged over the years. His voice is not nearly the same as it was in the 80's and early 90's. I'm sure drugs and smoking are the cause. It's too bad because I liked his music. What's the deal with his Masterpiece album? Will that ever drop? I know it will suck. But I just can't ignore it.

Bobby was voted out - and N.E. were against the idea (they said their manager at the time put them up to it) - due to him performing out of cue. He did that on his own to outshine Ralph Tresvant. Bobby's ego couldn't take it that another singer was getting all the love so he wanted to show out. See for yourself in their Behind the Music documentary, there's actually footage of Bobby, who was only 15, 16 when he started doing that, doing anything to upstage Ralph (N.E. members also contended that they couldn't stand Ralph either for being lead vocalist especially Bobby and Ricky). All of them used weed at young ages and Bobby might've been drawn to alcohol at first. I think he said his father was a drunk so alcoholism and drug addiction was probably hereditary in that family. Bobby began using cocaine around the time Don't Be Cruel dropped but it wasn't until after the Bobby album was released that he began using heavy dosages and then he got off on smoking heroin as well as primo - which is what he and Whitney were using (I'm guessing rock cocaine was a politically correct term, but the real name was primo. Marvin Gaye used primo after he blew a hole in his nose and so did Ike Turner). His drug use was gradual to say the least.

Derek1984 said:

He DID have talent. It's ashame that he wasted it. He's really aged over the years. His voice is not nearly the same as it was in the 80's and early 90's. I'm sure drugs and smoking are the cause. It's too bad because I liked his music. What's the deal with his Masterpiece album? Will that ever drop? I know it will suck. But I just can't ignore it.

Really? What is his new musical direction? I've only heard & seen clips of him performing these days, I wont comment on that.

Timmy84 said:

Bobby was voted out - and N.E. were against the idea (they said their manager at the time put them up to it) - due to him performing out of cue. He did that on his own to outshine Ralph Tresvant. Bobby's ego couldn't take it that another singer was getting all the love so he wanted to show out. See for yourself in their Behind the Music documentary, there's actually footage of Bobby, who was only 15, 16 when he started doing that, doing anything to upstage Ralph (N.E. members also contended that they couldn't stand Ralph either for being lead vocalist especially Bobby and Ricky). All of them used weed at young ages and Bobby might've been drawn to alcohol at first. I think he said his father was a drunk so alcoholism and drug addiction was probably hereditary in that family. Bobby began using cocaine around the time Don't Be Cruel dropped but it wasn't until after the Bobby album was released that he began using heavy dosages and then he got off on smoking heroin as well as primo - which is what he and Whitney were using (I'm guessing rock cocaine was a politically correct term, but the real name was primo. Marvin Gaye used primo after he blew a hole in his nose and so did Ike Turner). His drug use was gradual to say the least.

The Ralph incident(they were likely the closest later on). It was brewing before than, he was pretty wild outside of not being a group member. Its been well reported and said by them. They were supposed to be a 'nice' group and he was just bad for business. Sure they all probably were jealous of Ralph but the others fell in line and played their positions. Cant let one guy push buttons.

You guys talkin' bout something like this?

BitetheBeat said:

Timmy84 said:

Bobby was voted out - and N.E. were against the idea (they said their manager at the time put them up to it) - due to him performing out of cue. He did that on his own to outshine Ralph Tresvant. Bobby's ego couldn't take it that another singer was getting all the love so he wanted to show out. See for yourself in their Behind the Music documentary, there's actually footage of Bobby, who was only 15, 16 when he started doing that, doing anything to upstage Ralph (N.E. members also contended that they couldn't stand Ralph either for being lead vocalist especially Bobby and Ricky). All of them used weed at young ages and Bobby might've been drawn to alcohol at first. I think he said his father was a drunk so alcoholism and drug addiction was probably hereditary in that family. Bobby began using cocaine around the time Don't Be Cruel dropped but it wasn't until after the Bobby album was released that he began using heavy dosages and then he got off on smoking heroin as well as primo - which is what he and Whitney were using (I'm guessing rock cocaine was a politically correct term, but the real name was primo. Marvin Gaye used primo after he blew a hole in his nose and so did Ike Turner). His drug use was gradual to say the least.

The Ralph incident(they were likely the closest later on). It was brewing before than, he was pretty wild outside of not being a group member. Its been well reported and said by them. They were supposed to be a 'nice' group and he was just bad for business. Sure they all probably were jealous of Ralph but the others fell in line and played their positions. Cant let one guy push buttons.

Their boy used to say Bobby would slap women's asses and had to be thrown out of an airport for calling a stewardess a "bitch" so he definitely was out there. He was the original "bad boy" of boy bands lol

AsherFierce said:

You guys talkin' bout something like this?

Yup!

It's ironic how Bobby and Ralph became even closer best friends years later.

Timmy84 said:

AsherFierce said:

You guys talkin' bout something like this?

Yup!

It's ironic how Bobby and Ralph became even closer best friends years later.

You guys ! I saw a performance of him having a temper tantrum and damn near messing up everbody's eardrums when he threw a mic and ran off like a girl. You can't have somebody unpredictable like that. I know groups are tough but he was a habitual line stepper! Why should folks always bend for King Bobby ?! Lots of folks wasn't having it.

BitetheBeat said:

Timmy84 said:

Yup!

It's ironic how Bobby and Ralph became even closer best friends years later.

You guys ! I saw a performance of him having a temper tantrum and damn near messing up everbody's eardrums when he threw a mic and ran off like a girl. You can't have somebody unpredictable like that. I know groups are tough but he was a habitual line stepper! Why should folks always bend for King Bobby ?! Lots of folks wasn't having it.

lol that's true but it wasn't like Bobby was putting his mud on folks' couches or slapping them because he felt like it...yet. He might've told people "I'm Bobby motherfucking Brown" though.

Timmy84 said:

BitetheBeat said:

You guys ! I saw a performance of him having a temper tantrum and damn near messing up everbody's eardrums when he threw a mic and ran off like a girl. You can't have somebody unpredictable like that. I know groups are tough but he was a habitual line stepper! Why should folks always bend for King Bobby ?! Lots of folks wasn't having it.

lol that's true but it wasn't like Bobby was putting his mud on folks' couches or slapping them because he felt like it...yet. He might've told people "I'm Bobby motherfucking Brown" though.

Dead! I can see shiny suits ripped off,jheri curl juice flying. No I'm stopping. I will say Rick was atleast decent looking and hot for more than a minute though! For BB or RJ fans I wasn't trying to say he was Rick or Rick was Bobby...whichever.

[Edited 2/22/12 14:33pm]

BitetheBeat said:

Timmy84 said:

lol that's true but it wasn't like Bobby was putting his mud on folks' couches or slapping them because he felt like it...yet. He might've told people "I'm Bobby motherfucking Brown" though.

Dead! I can see shiny suits ripped off,jheri curl juice flying. No I'm stopping. I will say Rick was atleast decent looking and hot for more than a minute though! For BB or FJ fans I wasn't trying to say he was Rick or Rick was Bobby...whichever.

[Edited 2/22/12 14:29pm]

Bobby did have a nasty looking short greasy Jheri Curl at one time. But so did the rest of N.E. except for Michael.

Timmy84 said:

BitetheBeat said:

Dead! I can see shiny suits ripped off,jheri curl juice flying. No I'm stopping. I will say Rick was atleast decent looking and hot for more than a minute though! For BB or FJ fans I wasn't trying to say he was Rick or Rick was Bobby...whichever.

[Edited 2/22/12 14:29pm]

Bobby did have a nasty looking short greasy Jheri Curl at one time. But so did the rest of N.E. except for Michael.

All I'm saying is atleast be decent acting if you aren't decent looking. Bobby should've been a ray of sunshine.

BitetheBeat said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

The whole N.E. was not squeaky clean themselves. They were doing everything & more.I hate when people always focus on Bobby like he was the only person doing naughty things. He just was a free spirit person & didn't hide anything like the others do.

We KNOW but atleast they are classy with their struggles when/if they had them...not out getting arrested, acting out, etc! They are in the public eye, why put it on display. Is that what free spirits do?! There is a line. Sorry for noticing some stuff over 20+ years! Poor Bobby right....

Unbelievable isn't it. I have nothing against the guy at all but damn let's not pretend

the guy hasn't brought a lot of problems he has or has had on himself with his boorish

behavior. Just because his ex wife had her share of problems doesn't excuse him from

criticism or just because he had a massive hit in the 90's that everybody loves.

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