Wow, this is impressive. I can only imagine the hell that Janet would be given for releasing a song called Gang Bang. The words too old would be ringing loudly. Or, the hell Mariah would be given for releasing a song like Gimme All Your Luvin. So, if Madonna doesn't sell it's a sign o the times. However, let Janet and Mariah ride in with elementary lyrics like this and the bashing is non stop | |
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but its a worldwide thing, i think more that way, to me the USA is not a market that has great importance that it did, america does not focus on music as a wide genre, u have about 3 females that get attention wide, and thats about it. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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It's a different century for music, indeed... "Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato
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will ALWAYS think of like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that wasn't of this earth, would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. | |
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Confessions was a really good album. This one looks like it's gonna suck monkey balls for sure. Media is just hyping it up as it always does with Madonna. Just a whole lot of beats with very little substance so far. | |
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All three of those women are known for having hit or miss lyrics, and you must not have been reading this thread cuz no one on her has been praising any lyrics from M this time around and no one has been bashing Mariah or Janet. lets stick to the topic. 2012: The Queen Returns | |
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Billboard: Madonna, 'MDNA': Track-By-Track Review The Queen of pop keeps her crown-London evening standard review | |
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MTV: 'Turn Up The Radio' Needs to Be Madonna's Next MDNA Single | |
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One of Mariah's last big hits was a lightweight song called "Touch My Body" Janet's recent singles aren't very deep,either ("All Nite").I don't know why people expect something deep and introspective from any of these three ladies.They're pop artists! If you want deep lyrics,listen to someone like U2 or Tori Amos. | |
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So basically every song is amazing. Definitely a balanced review and not a fan rant Waiting for when the press will start calling her a "self proclaimed" queen of pop. | |
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^^that Billboard review has got me going crazy Really excited to hear this album! I (almost) wish it would leak now. | |
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Some of the songs of Madonna have serious and profound lyrics actually. | |
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I agree, but also Madonna had some serious songs and lyrics.. but still, yeah they are pop artists you can't expect that from them everytime. | |
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All three of those women are known for having hit or miss lyrics, and you must not have been reading this thread cuz no one on her has been praising any lyrics from M this time around and no one has been bashing Mariah or Janet. lets stick to the topic. I just think it's ironic to see some people in here in full worship mode. However, when the other two release work essays are written about their immaturity. The double standards on this are way too hard for me to ignore. And, that's all I will say | |
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Bull! Madonna gets bashed here just as much as the other two,if not more so.There have been entire threads here devoted to bashing Madonna.Stop acting like she somehow gets a "pass". | |
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We're a bunch of Madonna fans getting excited about a new release? What do you expect? 2012: The Queen Returns | |
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"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato
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What do you guys think the new tour will be like? Do you think she learned her lesson with S&S and will try to do something like Confessions ( I hope) or do you think she'll look on S&S's success and do something like it? | |
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Mar 9 2012 2:27 PM EST 9,453
Madonna's MDNA: Swallowing It One Pill At A TimeMTV News looks at why Madge's upcoming album is a drug worth taking.
Madonna wants us to dance the heartbreak away on MDNA. The record, set to drop on March 26, has some of the finest musical moments we've heard from the pop legend in the last few years, recalling the finer songs and themes she explored on Ray of Light and Confessions on a Dance Floor. It's clear that Madge had her heart broken, most likely by her former hubby and British auteur, Guy Ritchie. She explores the pain of life post-divorce on many of the songs on the album, and most of the time, it works perfectly. Madonna really understands heartbreak and she understands even better how it can empower someone to be a better person. While all the buzz seems to be about "I Don't Give A" and the bit too on-the-nose confessions she makes about her divorce (where she even sings about falling off a horse), her anger is even darker on the William Orbit-produced "Gang Bang." Sparse at times and always punctuated by a pulsing beat, it's incredibly hard. It's the type of record you'd expect to hear at some after-hours club that your really edgy friend knows about. It's about falling completely in love and falling more deeply into hate when it's over. Serving as a pop-song revenge fantasy, Madonna sings, "And I'm going straight to hell/ And I've got a lot of friends there/ And if I see that b---- in hell/ I'm gonna shoot him in the head again/ 'Cause I wanna see him die/ Over and over and over." On the disco-tinged "Love Spent," Madge sings about feeling like nothing more than a bank to a former lover (she did have one very costly breakup from Ritchie), and on the remorseful, melodic "Best Friend," she admits, "Your picture's off the wall, but I'm still waiting for your call/ And every man that walks through the door/ Will be compared to you." "Superstar" is light and airy, recalling some of the singer's highlights from the '80s. The mid-tempo's production, which comes courtesy of Hardy "Indiigo" Muanza, certainly helps distract from some of the sillier lyrics that have Madonna comparing her boy toy to famed dudes like Al Capone and James Dean. If anyone was wondering why she called the album MDNA, all they need to do is look to "I'm Addicted," the super club-thumping track full of bleeping noises, spare moments and then big chugging ones, which are filled out with loopy instances. It's about letting go and loving someone completely: "Now that your name/ Pumps like blood in my veins/ Pulsing through my body, lighting my mind/ It's like MDNA and that's OK." MDMA, of course, is the drug also known as ecstasy, giving the track the perfect metaphor for love on the dance floor. While most of the album addresses the highs and lows of falling in love, "Some Girls" is all about Madonna proclaiming her awesomeness. Another Orbit jam, it's a crunchy, robotic, thumping anthem that puts Madonna right in the center of female empowerment. "I'm not like the rest," she proclaims, as if anyone would ever question that. "Some girls are second best." On the chorus, she declares, "Some girls are not like me/ I'm everything you've ever dreamed of/ I got you begging please." One of the highlights is "Turn Up the Radio," which sounds like it was born to be this summer's feel-good anthem. It's bright, happy and fun, all about letting go of the past. Over Martin Solveig's sunny production, Madge sings, "It was time I opened my eyes/ I'm leaving the past behind/ Nothing's ever what it seems/ Including this time and this crazy dream." She's not wrong to be that confident on this album. She's certainly in the groove. And the album is full of strength, but it's also her vulnerability that rounds it out. If fans thought "Give Me All Your Luvin' " and "Girl Gone Wild" are what this era is all about, they are only seeing pieces of the MDNA puzzle, that's only completed when listening to the album from front to back. In the end, this album is a drug worth taking. Are you counting down the days to the release of MDNA? Let us know in the comments! | |
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She may not get a pass on this forum but she gets it a lot with with the Media. I barely recall any article bashing her for anything over the last decade. Madonna could do no wrong as far as they're concerned
I was at least expecting some half truthful reiews of this album but looks like that won't be happening. The released snippets are actually quite atrocious and it's about time someone says it.
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It'll be interesting to see what the "themes" will be for this tour.I have a few ideas of my own....
***a dark,controversial segment (Love Gone Wrong) that features songs like "Til Death Do Us Part","Miles Away","I Don't Give A" and ending with a chilling performance of "Gang Bang".
***after performing "Like A Prayer",Madonna removes her nun outfit and launches into the raunchy "Girl Gone Wild"
***Old favorites like "Angel","Dress You Up","Causing A Commotion" are added to the setlist.
***MDNA/LOVE IS A DRUG segment----a segment focusing on the theme of "love is a drug".A sexy segment where the stage becomes a rave-like dance club,featuring the songs "Justify My Love","Future Lovers","Skin" and "I'm Addicted". | |
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The reviewers didn't hear snippets,they heard the whole songs and they seem to think that this is one of her strongest albums.I disagree that she gets a "pass" with the media.I could easily post alot of negative reviews of past albums. | |
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Just to prove that Madonna doesn't get a "pass" from the media,here's a very mixed review by Eva Barlow who writes for Q Mag | |
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^^ That's a very unprofessionally written review irrespective of the content.Just sayin'. Every artist is obviously going to get a few unflattering things written about them from time to time. That's the nature of the game. What i was trying to imply was that she has it much better than a lot who catch a lot of fire for shit that's still better than what she puts out.
I am not hating on her and i absolutely love a few of her albums but the fact remains that she is GENERALLY a media darling and has been for a long time now. Time for folks to realize they don't have to kiss her ass for everything she comes up with. MDNA is lame(judging from the snippets and the themes) and time will bear that out. I hope i get pleasantly surprised when the full album comes out but i ain't holding my breath.
No one else could have gotten away with the theme of "Gang bang", shooting lovers dead. Anyone else would've had to cop a lot of criticism for that. None for Madge so far. That's double standards. GMAYL is a song even Katy perry would try and run away from [Edited 3/12/12 5:24am] | |
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Madonna a "media darling"? Maybe during the Ray Of Light period
You seem to think that she deserves criticism for doing a song like "Gang Bang".Eminem and other rappers do songs like this all the time (violent fantasy songs) and the critics praise them for it.I'd argue that Eminem is truly a media darling.Why is "Gang Bang" such a bad idea? I think it's one of Madonna's most intriguing songs in years.For awhile now,I've been wanting her to do an aggressive,unapologetic,I-don't-give-a-fuck record and it looks like she finally delivered.Plus,the groove is amazing! Even the reviewer above (who dissed most of the album) admits that "Gang Bang" might grow on her. | |
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To me,it doesn't sound that much different than the stuff that Katy Perry does Most critics say it's the weakest song on the album and that it doens't really sound like the other tracks anyway. | |
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Did you notice that even the negative review you mentioned started off with a whole para of extraordinary praise and over the top flattery? You could say that she was probably doing that to sound objective during the rest of the review but i think it's a running theme with most of the reviewers to consciously try and build Madonna up to a demigoddess status which she is absolutely not deserving of.
I agree with your point about the rappers not catching any flak for their miscreancy but then again, we know that that's what rap culture has become. Sex and violence is the cornerstone of most of that type of music nowadays. The less i talk about Eminem the better. The guy sounds seriously retarded and crazy on most of his records so he's obviously not a good example to follow for anyone, much less a pop artist who's a household name and definitely more influential than Eminem. | |
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Love your ideas, especially love gone wrong.
Hmmm some deas of my own.
Opening with M as a mad scientist, M-DNA theme
Dress You Up montage to introduce next segment
Next she's out in the clubs, circa 1988 Club Kids/Michael Alig influenced with Madonna dressed full on as Amanda Lepore Deeper and Deeper, Vogue, Bedtime Story, Gang Bang
Sanctuary interlude
M goes back in time for a more biblical twist on her superbowl look I'm a sinner, I don't give a, Don't Tell Me, Like A Prayer
Music interlude
Madonna returns in full Marilyn Monroe get up Express Yourself, GMAYL, GGW, Burning Up
Sky Fits Heaven Interlude
A stripped down set and a simple elegant outfit Falling Free, This Used To Be My Playground, Till Death do us part (an acoustic version)
Encore: Turn On The Radio, 4 Minutes, Hung Up, Open Your Heart 2012: The Queen Returns | |
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A setlist I came up with is like this:
Greek/Superbowl begining theme: Vogue Sorry Girl Gone Wild *Music Interlude*
Techno/Robot theme: Music Future Lovers Human Nature (Techno based remix) Some Girls Runaway Lover Ray Of Light *ABBA based Interlude*
Disco theme: Hung Up Express Yourself (Disco based remix) Miles Away (Disco based remix) Love Spent I'm Addicted Get Together
Church theme: Like A Virgin Like A Prayer (Ends in fashion similar to superbowl with Madonna going to hell)
Hell theme: Gang Bang I Don't Give A Erotica I'm A Sinner *Girl Gone Wild reprise interlude*
Serious yet simple theme (Some songs will be acoustic): Frozen Bedtime Stories Masterpiece Best Friend Mer Girl Paradise (Not For Me) Little Star Falling Free
Encore: 4 Minutes Give Me All Your Luvin' I'm Addicted
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Madonna, 'MDNA' - First ListenThe Material Girl returns with her 12th studio album. Is it any cop? Let’s find out.... ‘Girl Gone Wild’
Though most will have heard this track already (it’s the second single off the album) it’s worth a recap. Produced by Benny Benassi, Madonna intros with a spoken word segment about how she wants "so badly to be good". As the album plays through, the strangeness of the single's choice will become more apparent. ‘Girl Gone Wild’ does little to set the listener up for what’s about to come next. ‘Gang Bang’
With an intro consisting of a revving engine and a solid four-to-the-floor beat, ‘Gang Bang’ is Madge Gone Industrial. We’re certainly not mentioning another blonde female artist who also took inspiration from German Industrial on her last album, but we’re in the same ball park. It’s exciting. Madonna’s ditched the faux English accent and the mood is tense. It feels like something's about to snap as she declares “You were building my coffin/ you were driving my hearse". Ubiquitous Dubstep wobble aside, the track tails off into a wonderful 'Faster Kill Pussycat' segment, with Madge singing “Drive bitch and while you're at it die bitch!” ‘I’m Addicted’
Electronic ripples open the track into something that sounds like ‘Momma's Place’-era Roisin Murphy. There are some nudging references to Killer Rave Drugs as Madonna sings "It's like MDMA and that's OK". There’s another dubsteppy breakdown that ends with her chanting "MDNA" over an electro explosion. We can't wait to see this live. ‘Turn Up the Radio’
This is the first of the six Martin Solveig-produced tracks on the album(including the bonus tracks). There’s a Dragonette style vocal and lyrics about music helping you to forget your woes. It’s quite sweet, and leads nicely into the next track... ‘Give Me All Your Luvin’’
...which is still amazing. ‘Some Girls’
The first William Orbit cut (of five). Direct and bitchy, Madonna’s vocals are treated and hidden beneath a heavy bass. It’s a mid-tempo track with a chorus of "Some girls are not like me / I never want to be like some girls". ‘Superstar’
This track feels a bit lightweight amongst the others. There’s a Katy Perry vibe. The "Oh la la you're my superstar" chorus seems like a incongruous filler with the cheeky cringey teen lyrics: "You're like Abe Lincoln because you fight for what's right". Maybe Lourdes helped her with this one? ‘I Don’t Give A’
Lyrically, this is a list of all the things that Madonna has to do: "Message manager no time for a manicure". It avoids turning into ‘American Life’ thanks to Madonna letting a little bit of her guard down: "I tried to be a good girl I tried to be your wife". Nicki Minaj's guest spot is relaxed and ends with the immortal line: "There's only one queen and that's Madonna, bitch". ‘I’m A Sinner’
A psychy track that feels like a mix of Peaches and Martha And The Vandellas. It sounds fresh, and tongue firmly in cheek Madonna lists some saints over a "Wo-oh-ah" backing vocal. ‘Love Spent’
Though ‘Love Spent’ could come across as a kind of 'Exquisite Corpse' of a track (banjo intro, then violins, then spoken word) it’s really brilliant. Madonna channels ABBA-level spousal hurt as she sings "Hold me like your money, tell me that you want me, spend your love on me". ‘Masterpiece’
The track from W.E. It sounds a bit zzzz here to be honest. ‘Falling Free’
Elegant and classy, the warped piano sounds of the final track on the album proper is a fitting end. This icy ballad fits far better than ‘Masterpiece’ as Madonna addresses a problem she wishes she could forget: "When I move a certain way I feel an ache I've kept at bay". ‘Beautiful Killer’
Yep, you guessed it: beautiful filler, more like. ‘I Fucked Up’
It’s strange that this didn’t make it onto the main CD. This is the track that most critics have pegged to be about Guy Ritchie. Aside from the token French interlude, this is understated and excellent, and could easily have replaced ‘Masterpiece’. ‘B-Day Song’
M.I.A. makes an appearance on this 60s-influenced Solveig track. Though there’s a line about how Madonna likes to spend her birthdays ("Give me a spanking start the day off right") it’s clear why this isn’t a main track. 'Best Friend’
Madonna lists things she misses in her partner. It sounds a bit like a vocodorized Max Martin track, which would normally be amazing, but in these circumstances, it doesn’t really fit. So, is the Queen of Pop back on her throne? Just about. We’d pledge our allegiance anyway. NME.COM blogs contain the opinions of the individual writer and not necessarily those of NME magazine or NME.COM. | |
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