A GENIUS song. Experimental Mike at his peak.

smoothcriminal12 said:

A GENIUS song. Experimental Mike at his peak.

knowing damn well this gonna get locked

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mjscarousal said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

A GENIUS song. Experimental Mike at his peak.

knowing damn well this gonna get locked

Yeah, but I did it anyways.

smoothcriminal12 said:

mjscarousal said:

knowing damn well this gonna get locked

Yeah, but I did it anyways.

I know, thats why I love u

Michael is such a genius I just cant contain it sometimes either

mjscarousal said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

Yeah, but I did it anyways.

I know, thats why I love u

Michael is such a genius I just cant contain it sometimes either

I couldn't resist posting this song. I was listening to it earlier and it just blew my mind.

smoothcriminal12 said:

mjscarousal said:

I know, thats why I love u

Michael is such a genius I just cant contain it sometimes either

I couldn't resist posting this song. I was listening to it earlier and it just blew my mind.

I really love the production of the song and how it abruptly goes into the bridge with a classical inspired piece.. The lyrics were creatively written and proves that overall the 90s he pushed himself and grew as a songwriter with touching different complex topics.

This is another one of his unappreciated songs.

mjscarousal said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

I couldn't resist posting this song. I was listening to it earlier and it just blew my mind.

I really love the production of the song and how it abruptly goes into the bridge with a classical inspired piece.. The lyrics were creatively written and proves that overall the 90s he pushed himself and grew as a songwriter with touching different complex topics.

This is another one of his unappreciated songs.

It's probably his most creative piece yet.

smoothcriminal12 said:

mjscarousal said:

I really love the production of the song and how it abruptly goes into the bridge with a classical inspired piece.. The lyrics were creatively written and proves that overall the 90s he pushed himself and grew as a songwriter with touching different complex topics.

This is another one of his unappreciated songs.

It's probably his most creative piece yet.

That and Little Susie

mjscarousal said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

It's probably his most creative piece yet.

That and Little Susie

His cry for help. I've listened to this song ONCE since his passing, and that was enough.

I'd say the HIStory era brough out some of his most personal statements in his career.

Harlepolis said:

Harlepolis said:

His cry for help. I've listened to this song ONCE since his passing, and that was enough.

I'd say the HIStory era brough out some of his most personal statements in his career.

Very true...

This is a very strong song and I like it much, but I can not listen to these lines after the death of MJ, they are too personal and real

Relax
This won't hurt you
Before I put it in
Close your eyes and count to ten
Don't cry
I won't convert you
There's no need to dismay
Close your eyes and drift away

Demerol
Demerol
Oh God he's taking demerol
Demerol
Demerol
Oh God he's taking demerol

He's tried
Hard to convince her
To be over what he had
Today he wants it twice as bad
Don't cry
I won't resent you
Yesterday you had his trust
Today he's taking twice as much

Demerol
Demerol
Oh God he's taking demerol
Demerol
Demerol
Oh my Oh God it's Demerol

Harlepolis said:

His cry for help. I've listened to this song ONCE since his passing, and that was enough.

I'd say the HIStory era brought out some of his most personal statements in his career.

Co-sign.

I love the song though.

I was actually shocked when I initially heard it. I wondered what Mike knew about morphine except medical use.

Really.

I was clueless to his addictions and using his children's names to get prescriptions etc.

I didn't realize he was discussing himself in the third person.

SUPRMAN said:

Harlepolis said:

His cry for help. I've listened to this song ONCE since his passing, and that was enough.

I'd say the HIStory era brought out some of his most personal statements in his career.

using his children's names to get prescriptions etc.

LiLi1992 said:

This is a very strong song and I like it much, but I can not listen to these lines after the death of MJ, they are too personal and real

Relax
This won't hurt you
Before I put it in
Close your eyes and count to ten
Don't cry
I won't convert you
There's no need to dismay
Close your eyes and drift away

Demerol
Demerol
Oh God he's taking demerol
Demerol
Demerol
Oh God he's taking demerol

He's tried
Hard to convince her
To be over what he had
Today he wants it twice as bad
Don't cry
I won't resent you
Yesterday you had his trust
Today he's taking twice as much

Demerol
Demerol
Oh God he's taking demerol
Demerol
Demerol
Oh my Oh God it's Demerol

I thought these lines were the result of research, not experience.

It's an amazing cry for help, that I don't think went unheeded. I'm sure his family was alarmed but there was only so much they could with him being Michael Jackson.

smoothcriminal12 said:

SUPRMAN said:

using his children's names to get prescriptions etc.

I can't find the report that actually stated prescription for drugs he was taking were found in his children's names. Have to look further later.

[EDITED]

Michael Jackson was reportedly getting a larg...tion drugs under a variety of aliases and using a number of different techniques. While his wealth may have made this a bit easier for him than for other people, the fact is that prescription drug abuse is a huge problem in this country in general.

According to the National Institute for Drug Abuse (NIDA), there are about 7 million people regularly using prescription medications for “non-medical reasons” (they refuse to use the phrase “getting high”). And a dose of abused drugs is often more than one pill, and many people use this stuff every day or at least once a week, so multiplying that by 52 weeks will give you a good estimate of perhaps a billion pills a year.

Considering that every single one of those doses is allegedly handled only via doctors, pharmacists, and pharmaceutical manufacturers, that’s an awful lot of dangerous drugs being manufactured, distributed, and abused right under the noses of the FDA. And that signifies that there’s a great deal of corruption likely everywhere down the official supply chain.

Remember, these are the same folks screaming about how some unknown number of people are “abusing the medical marijuana system in order to get high legally”. And remember that there are only 2 to 3 million legal MMJ patients in all of North America, and you’ll see that the real and dangerous problem has always been prescription drug abuse. Nobody has ever died from using marijuana.

NIDA also names the types and exact brands of drugs most often abused. Here’s the list of medications that Michael Jackson was said to be using before his death. See how many of them you ...A’s list . As usual, we’ve taken the following information from Wikipedia, and highlighted in bold green any uses that match those known for cannabis. Due to the huge number of drugs here, most of which have quite serious side effects up to (and obviously including) death, I’ve left out the usual list of side effects.

• propofol (a strong hypnotic which should not be combined with any benzodiazepine drugs)
• pethidine (aka Demerol, an opioid pain reliever)
• alprazolam (aka Xanax, a benzodiazepine used for anxiety disorders,panic disorders, and nausea due to chemotherapy)
• sertraline (aka Zoloft, an SSRI antidepressant used for depression,PTSD, obsessive–compulsive, panic, and social anxiety disorders)
• omeprazole (used for dyspepsia, peptic ulcer disease, gastroesophageal reflux disease, laryngopharyngeal reflux)
• hydrocodone (aka Vicodin, opioid used for pain relief and cough suppression)
• paroxetine (aka Paxil, an SSRI used for depression, obsessive-compulsive disorder, panic disorder, social anxiety, and generalized anxiety disorder)
• carisoprodol (pain relief, muscle relaxant, sedation)
• hydromorphone (opioid pain reliever)
• lidocaine (local anesthetic)
• ephedrine (stimulant, appetite suppressant, concentration aid, decongestant, hypotension)
• diazepam (aka Valium, a benzodiazepine used for anxiety, insomnia, seizures, muscle spasms, restless legs syndrome, alcohol withdrawal, benzodiazepine withdrawal and Ménière’s disease)
• lorazepam (a benzodiazepine used for anxiety, insomnia, acuteseizures, and sedation)
• midazolam (a benzodiazepine used for seizures, insomnia, sedation, amnesia)

The saddest and most ironic part of this story is that Michael Jackson, as a California resident, could have been using medical marijuana legally and safely for helping him get to sleep, reduce anxiety, and many of the other reasons he was taking all these FDA-approved, yet dangerous drugs. We may never know whether it was lack of knowledge or a concern over being a “role model” for children that kept him from using cannabis, but I can tell you one thing for sure.

If he had been using medical marijuana rather than all these prescription drugs, Michael Jackson would still be alive today.

R.I.P. Michael.

http://the420times.com/20...l-edition/

[Edited]

"He was getting a number of different prescriptions from a number of different names," said spiritual guru and former endocrinologist Deepak Chopra, a friend of Jackson's. "This is a common thing amongst celebrity addicts because they demand what they want and there are certain kinds of doctors who will give it to them."

Frank Cascio, a longtime friend of Jackson's, said the singer was like a father to him. But in later years, Cascio said, he took it upon himself to keep Jackson's enabling doctors at bay, as he describes in his book, "My Friend Michael," which will be published Nov. 15.

Read more about Frank Cas...el," here.

"Don't get me wrong. There were some great doctors," Cascio said. "There were some doctors that were absolutely fantastic."

But then there were, as Cascio calls them, the "random people" -- doctors, he said, who saw Jackson as "a money pit."

"They were just selfish, disgusting doctors that knew they would get paid," Cascio said. "They would, like, push [medications] on him because they knew he would pay them."

As a teen, Cascio was on tour with Jackson with Mexico City in 1993 when Jackson was swept off to rehab by his good friend, screen legend Elizabeth Taylor.

"Elizabeth takes us aside and says to us, 'We're going to get him out of the country after the show. He's going to go to London,'" Cascio remembered.

Jackson would later release a videotaped statement to his fans, announcing he had undergone "treatment for a dependency on pain medications."

Years later, Cascio began working for Jackson. He said he would keep Jackson's stashes of the anti-anxiety drug Xanax, the narcotic painkiller Percocet or the sedative Valium out of Jackson's reach at night.

"I wanted to always make sure I had them with me and not have anything in his room where he didn't wake up and say, 'I can't sleep tonight,' and not realize what he's taking. I was trying to think 10 steps ahead," Cascio said.

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http://abcnews.go.com/US/...0KLYYcgd2A

Wow.

Amazing song

Masterpiece.

smoothcriminal12 said:

Wow.

Alot of that is bullshit... Casio and Deepak are mentioned I take it as a grain of salt... The only fact is during the 90s Michael was addicted to prescription medication and Demoral was one of them.

Genius song. You can feel is anger, his sadness, his loneliness. This song is one reason why I love Michael post Thriller more unlike a lot of the members of this site.

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Honestly. I cannot get over how fascinating this song is.

smoothcriminal12 said:

Honestly. I cannot get over how fascinating this song is.

It's like a three-part opera piece. The first half is menacing, the second half is more quiet yet tragic and the third brings it home.

Timmy84 said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

Honestly. I cannot get over how fascinating this song is.

It's like a three-part opera piece. The first half is menacing, the second half is more quiet yet tragic and the third brings it home.

Agreed. Oh how I wish Blood On The Dancefloor was a full studio album.

Timmy84 said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

Honestly. I cannot get over how fascinating this song is.

It's like a three-part opera piece. The first half is menacing, the second half is more quiet yet tragic and the third brings it home.

That's what so mindblowing about. He goes from industrial pop music to a piano ballad/haunting bridge and then brings it right back to the nitty gritty. And the passion is astounding. I truly feel that the stuff in the vault may be amazing. Have you heard the snippets of the original Hollywood Tonight? Even that sounded better than the revamped one.

smoothcriminal12 said:

Timmy84 said:

It's like a three-part opera piece. The first half is menacing, the second half is more quiet yet tragic and the third brings it home.

That's what so mindblowing about. He goes from industrial pop music to a piano ballad/haunting bridge and then brings it right back to the nitty gritty. And the passion is astounding. I truly feel that the stuff in the vault may be amazing. Have you heard the snippets of the original Hollywood Tonight? Even that sounded better than the revamped one.

Not really but I'll be on the lookout for it. They did a piss-poor job on the version issued on "Michael" that's for sure.

It should have been on HIStory.

My tracklist (not in order)

Scream

They Don't Care About Us

Earth Song

D.S.

Money

Tabloid Junkie

History

Little Susie

Blood on the Dance Floor

Morphine

Superfly Sister

Ghosts

Is It Scary

HIStory was good the way it was though (I appreciate it more now) just certain songs would have made it more personal.

mjscarousal said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

Wow.

Alot of that is bullshit... Casio and Deepak are mentioned I take it as a grain of salt... The only fact is during the 90s Michael was addicted to prescription medication and Demoral was one of them.

[EDITED]

The website TMZ wrote that Jackson used a number of aliases to secure prescription drugs, including Omar Arnold and Jack London, and the names of one of his bodyguards and an office manager. One doctor would allegedly call the pharmacy to say that Jackson was coming to getpethidine, and the pharmacy would fill the prescription with the patient's name blank.^{[citation needed]} Jackson was said to have used propofol, as well as alprazolam (an antianxiety agent), and sertraline (an antidepressant).^[38] Other drugs named in connection with him includedomeprazole, hydrocodone, paroxetine, carisoprodol, and hydromorphone.^[39] After his death, police found several drugs in his home, including propofol. Some of these drugs had labels made out to Jackson's pseudonyms, while others were unlabeled.^[40][41] A 2004 police document prepared for the 2005 People v. Jackson child abuse trial alleged that Jackson was taking up to 40 alprazolam pills a night.^[36]

http://en.wikipedia.org/w...el_Jackson

I really loved this at first. It's sounds great, and it's very different for him in some ways, especially lyrically, in that it's even more confessional than most people probably realized at the time.

Over the years though... I don't know. My enthusiasm for it has waned. And it has nothing to do with his death. It's a bit over the top and self-indulgent. It's not one that I'm really ever dying to hear like it used to be.