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Thread started 02/12/12 4:32am

MattyJam

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Eddie Van Halen VS. Jimi Hendrix?

Who's the ultimate guitar God out of these two?

C'mon, just for shits and giggles...

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Reply #1 posted 02/12/12 4:35am

emile58

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MattyJam said:

Who's the ultimate guitar God out of these two?

C'mon, just for shits and giggles...

Jimi Is awsome..as a songwriter too.Great singer!!

Eddie said on Howard Stern: when I started out I never had all the Guitar FX Jimi had..lol.

Again Oranges and apples.

Eddie's playing on the new Van Halen is mindblowing!Didn't expect that.

stoned That's some good shit!
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Reply #2 posted 02/12/12 4:59am

JoeTyler

Chuck Berry: ultimate RN'R guitarist

Jimi Hendrix: ultimate hard-rock guitarist

Eddie V H : ultimate classic heavy-metal guitarist

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Reply #3 posted 02/12/12 4:59am

LiLi1992

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Personally I prefer Eddie, but Jimi IS the greatest guitar player ever~

Period!

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Reply #4 posted 02/12/12 5:30am

duccichucka

Hendrix was a better blues player, obviously. And he is definitely the more influential

of the two. But Hendrix could be sloppy live.

Van Halen is a much more polished player who was faster and more technically sound

than Hendrix. Also, Van Halen, because he listened to Holdsworth, knows some jazz and

modal licks and that makes for interesting listening whereas Hendrix was mostly playing

pentatonically.

However, Hendrix was a much more interesting songwriter, was more imaginative (I think

Van Halen saying that Hendrix's playing/sound being mostly the results of effects is douche

baggery at its finest) and could play rhythm guitar (which I think is harder to do than playing

lead) for days.

Hendrix could play acoustic guitar well - I've never seen Van Halen play an acoustic.

I'm going with Hendrix: the live shows at the Fillmore East are transcendental.

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Reply #5 posted 02/12/12 5:50am

emile58

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duccichucka said:

Hendrix was a better blues player, obviously. And he is definitely the more influential

of the two. But Hendrix could be sloppy live.

Van Halen is a much more polished player who was faster and more technically sound

than Hendrix. Also, Van Halen, because he listened to Holdsworth, knows some jazz and

modal licks and that makes for interesting listening whereas Hendrix was mostly playing

pentatonically.

However, Hendrix was a much more interesting songwriter, was more imaginative (I think

Van Halen saying that Hendrix's playing/sound being mostly the results of effects is douche

baggery at its finest) and could play rhythm guitar (which I think is harder to do than playing

lead) for days.

Hendrix could play acoustic guitar well - I've never seen Van Halen play an acoustic.

I'm going with Hendrix: the live shows at the Fillmore East are transcendental.

Listen to spanish fly.

They also recorded an acoustic set for new album.. wasn't funded by recordlabel..it's in youtube..downtown sessions i believe.But listen to Spanish fly..Holy shit..lol

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stoned That's some good shit!
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Reply #6 posted 02/12/12 5:52am

emile58

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hail yeah..lol

stoned That's some good shit!
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Reply #7 posted 02/12/12 5:54am

Pomade

Comparing cause and effect.
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Reply #8 posted 02/12/12 6:40am

SPYZFAN1

I love the both of them. 2 different players from 2 totally different eras.

Eddie has admitted that he respected Hendrix and listened to him when he was younger. But as duccichucka said, Eddie was more technical and had the fusion thing going on in his playing. I hear more Holdsworth, Clapton and Ollie Halsall (check him on on You Tube!) in his playing.

I love Eddie's playing on the new CD. He's got the 'eye of the tiger' back in his playing style and tone. And I do hear a little Jimi in him too.

bfunke if you read this you were right...I grinned ear to ear listening to the CD! On my 4th spin right now. wink

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Reply #9 posted 02/12/12 8:28am

jpnyc

Hendrix is incomparable. Van Halen is a great guitarist and tremendously influential, but nothing that thousands of other players have not been able to repeat. But nobody sounds like Hendrix, and he’s been dead for over forty years.

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Reply #10 posted 02/12/12 8:30am

leonche64

I am going to go with Hendrix, simply because he created the style. Listen to guitarist before him, nobody sounded like him, or played like he did. Listen to everyone that came after him. The all have been influenced by him. Eddie is great, one of the best ever. He can stand toe to toe with almost any guitar player out there. But against Jimi, his shoes are not quite big enough.

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Reply #11 posted 02/12/12 8:41am

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Buckethead

What are you outraged about today? CNN has not told you yet?
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Reply #12 posted 02/12/12 10:46am

Bfunkthe1

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SPYZFAN1 said:

I love the both of them. 2 different players from 2 totally different eras.

Eddie has admitted that he respected Hendrix and listened to him when he was younger. But as duccichucka said, Eddie was more technical and had the fusion thing going on in his playing. I hear more Holdsworth, Clapton and Ollie Halsall (check him on on You Tube!) in his playing.

I love Eddie's playing on the new CD. He's got the 'eye of the tiger' back in his playing style and tone. And I do hear a little Jimi in him too.

bfunke if you read this you were right...I grinned ear to ear listening to the CD! On my 4th spin right now. wink

I had a feeling...cool .Glad you dig it bro. It is pretty incredible isn't?

On topic, I love both for very different reasons. Both are at the top of my list.

But if I had to choose, I'd go with Hendrix. Because I look at him as a more complete artist/songwriter/producer/etc. He truly created soundscapes with his music and guitar playing. Imo.

Fantasy is reality in the world today. But I'll keep hangin in there, that is the only way.
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Reply #13 posted 02/12/12 10:48am

Timmy84

They're too different. Can't compare them, not even gonna try.

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Reply #14 posted 02/12/12 11:31am

Gunsnhalen

I'm a HUGE fan of both... but there both very different i agree with Tim.

Jimi was much more in the blues side of thing's, where Eddie was more classical eventually going to a more heavy metal twang.

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Reply #15 posted 02/12/12 11:33am

sunlite

Wasn't gonna weigh in, but I love both of them so I must. Without Jimi we wouldn't have EVH. He's listened to Jimi more than he claimed. I understand why. They're both really flashy players and Jimi would would be the most obvious comparison. Even though they don't sound alike, they both played a strat or strat style(ED) guitar, both played stacks of 100 watt Marshall plexi amps live. Both are very bluesy players. Hendrix played the more traditional blues because he was influenced by it, where Van Halen listened to rock guitarists influenced directly by it. Also it was a decade of difference in style music between them. Someone like Stevie Ray Vaughan was an obvious Hendrix copycat, Eddie borrowed in a more subtle way. One of the most important was how Jimi held his pick. Ed said he starting holding his pick between his thumb and middle finger after seeing Hendrix in the Woodstock movie. The best thing I think Ed got from Jimi was playing with 'wreckless abandon'. Falling down the stairs and landing on your feet as he calls it!

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Reply #16 posted 02/12/12 12:54pm

TonyVanDam

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[img:$uid]http://i2.listal.com/image/1147048/600full-jimi-hendrix.jpg[/img:$uid]

End of! cool

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Reply #17 posted 02/12/12 1:29pm

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Jimi had "soul" (which is another term for being sloppy allot of the time)

Eddie was like a computer with the way he brought guitar to the next level.

BUT

Saying that if I had to listen to both of them Jimi was high alot of the time so that can be the reason he was sloppy.. plus 99% of all the stuff we heard is from a 3 year period. Eddie hasn't grown as a guitarist since the mid 80's... he is a huge booze hound which has killed his artistic passion.

Weighing both.

Jimi.

He brought allot to the world in only 3 years and in those years were heard the good bad and ugly... Jimi wasn't an asshole or a ego driven dick. Eddie is!!!!

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Reply #18 posted 02/12/12 1:58pm

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jpnyc said:

Hendrix is incomparable. Van Halen is a great guitarist and tremendously influential, but nothing that thousands of other players have not been able to repeat. But nobody sounds like Hendrix, and he’s been dead for over forty years.

they are both good and both have a unique sound guitar wise. but jimi aces eddie out of the field.

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Reply #19 posted 02/12/12 1:59pm

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ElectricBlue said:

Jimi had "soul" (which is another term for being sloppy allot of the time)

Eddie was like a computer with the way he brought guitar to the next level.

BUT

Saying that if I had to listen to both of them Jimi was high alot of the time so that can be the reason he was sloppy.. plus 99% of all the stuff we heard is from a 3 year period. Eddie hasn't grown as a guitarist since the mid 80's... he is a huge booze hound which has killed his artistic passion.

Weighing both.

Jimi.

He brought allot to the world in only 3 years and in those years were heard the good bad and ugly... Jimi wasn't an asshole or a ego driven dick. Eddie is!!!!


Uh Eddie had lots of soul and wasn't like a computer. He never had a guitar lesson in his life and can't read music. Are you kidding? And for the record Eddie was high most of the time also, he could just play well at the same time. Jimi wasn't always high and didn't always play sloppy either(Jimmy Page played sloppy most of the time).
After listening to the new Van Halen album and a sober Ed, I'd say his passion is is still there. Does it sound like his earlier stuff? Most of it does, but it's his style and no one elses.


As for who's the best, It will always be Jimi Hendrix first. He changed the guitar so much that there's no one near him. Most players were copping eddie's style after he came out , but they didn't have the SOUL like he did!

Both are innovators and that usually flies over the heads of most who weren't around when those sounds were first heard. I was aware of the sonic impact on my guitar playing Eddie had the first time I heard a Van Halen song in the late 1970's. He made made excited to learn my guitar! When I was older and discovered Hendrix, I understood the connection and realized what made them stand apart from their peers.

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Reply #20 posted 02/12/12 2:28pm

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You just had to be ''that guy'' eh wink razz

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Reply #21 posted 02/12/12 3:17pm

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wha ?

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Reply #22 posted 02/12/12 9:13pm

leonche64

sunlite said:

Uh Eddie had lots of soul and wasn't like a computer. He never had a guitar lesson in his life and can't read music.

Not to derail, but we see this statement a lot. People act like it is some kind of badge of honor to not be able to read music, and play an instrument, but it really is not. Children in grade school learn how to read music. It is not that difficult. I know some genres such as rock, metal etc, do not make it a mandatory skill, others do. And aspects of the business side of the industry, such as publishing, make it an absolute requirement. I had never heard that before about Eddie. But if it is true, it makes a lot of the things that Sammy Hagar said in his book about the terrible business deals Van Halen had when he joined up more plausible.

Back on topic...

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Reply #23 posted 02/13/12 2:31am

sunlite

leonche64 said:

sunlite said:

Uh Eddie had lots of soul and wasn't like a computer. He never had a guitar lesson in his life and can't read music.

Not to derail, but we see this statement a lot. People act like it is some kind of badge of honor to not be able to read music, and play an instrument, but it really is not. Children in grade school learn how to read music. It is not that difficult. I know some genres such as rock, metal etc, do not make it a mandatory skill, others do. And aspects of the business side of the industry, such as publishing, make it an absolute requirement. I had never heard that before about Eddie. But if it is true, it makes a lot of the things that Sammy Hagar said in his book about the terrible business deals Van Halen had when he joined up more plausible.

Back on topic...


What does any of that have to do with anything. Funny because as a 12 year old he won several state competitons playing classical piano. So what was that you said? Nevermind. If you get it great, if not...

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Reply #24 posted 02/13/12 3:04am

leonche64

sunlite said:

leonche64 said:

Not to derail, but we see this statement a lot. People act like it is some kind of badge of honor to not be able to read music, and play an instrument, but it really is not. Children in grade school learn how to read music. It is not that difficult. I know some genres such as rock, metal etc, do not make it a mandatory skill, others do. And aspects of the business side of the industry, such as publishing, make it an absolute requirement. I had never heard that before about Eddie. But if it is true, it makes a lot of the things that Sammy Hagar said in his book about the terrible business deals Van Halen had when he joined up more plausible.

Back on topic...


What does any of that have to do with anything. Funny because as a 12 year old he won several state competitons playing classical piano. So what was that you said? Nevermind. If you get it great, if not...

Not a lot, but YOU introduced it into the discussion as Eddie ammo. Maybe you miss-spoke by saying he does not read music, and meant to say that he does not read music for guitar. Either which is not likely, if he indeed won classical piano competitions in his youth. Classical piano requires the ability to read music at an advanced level. Which is it? Does he or does he not read music?

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Reply #25 posted 02/13/12 6:13am

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I know Jimi is a legend and I love his playing but I grew up with

Van Halen and even now I still get goosebumps from his sound...

so, as a modal music lover-no musician; Eddie!!!

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Reply #26 posted 02/13/12 7:16am

madhattter

Steve Vai can play circles around both of them and he reads music and has soul in his playing!

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Reply #27 posted 02/13/12 8:15am

leonche64

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Steve Vai can play circles around both of them and he reads music and has soul in his playing!

Haaaaaaaaa. Way to throw another "mad hat" into the ring.

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Reply #28 posted 02/13/12 8:53am

free2bfreeda

madhattter said:

Steve Vai can play circles around both of them and he reads music and has soul in his playing!

while i really respect Steve Vai as a guitarist, very few people are aware of his skills. more people are aware of the

Master Guitarist Jimi Hendrix.

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Reply #29 posted 02/13/12 9:08am

emile58

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madhattter said:

Steve Vai can play circles around both of them and he reads music and has soul in his playing!

BULLSHIT!! (I'm sure Steve would agree)

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