StillGotIt said:

silverchild said:

I didn't know whether to laugh or cringe at this. I found it heartfelt and disgusting at the same time. Typical Wendy.

This interview was the wrongest shit I have ever seen......and by the way, I think she had Bobby on there not too long ago and didn't even address him, and he is the one she had met. For her to sit there and cry........whatever

yes, right! after listening to the video, i felt appalled in the way wendy exploited a very sad situation, by bringing the spotlight to her self and her to past experiences with drugs.

any psychologist can tell you that the most damaging thing a person can do in an attempt to sooth others in sorrow is to bring their own tales of trouble and woe to people in grief.

wendy honey, whitney houston's passing is not supposed to be about you. your tears seemed so mis-directed. (take off that fiber-optic wig/weave and start thinking more clearly!)

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ladygirl99 said:

free2bfreeda said:

now i'm really wondering. no witness/friend statements. no photos, no hotel employee statements, no boyfriend statement, nothing related to Feb 10th. seems like someone would have been near her to watch over her after her erratic behavior on the 9th. (no i'm on a respectful quest for info)

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Exactly. Why I got a feeling she did NOT died on Saturday?

Oh please. The coroner's report would have pointed out if she'd been dead for an extended period.

Immersion in water wouldn't affect that either.

deadmansbones said:

ladygirl99 said:

But not one picture or video of her being at the bar on that night? This is freaking Whitney Houston and people are know to capture pictures on her antics and it posts all the blogs. All those people and witness at the bar and not one picture or video surface? I dont think there was some private event it was a very open area the hotel bar. Why is rthat there were so many pictures and videos of the events on February 9th but not one picture or video on February 10th? I am not being a conspiracy it just a simple question. I am not suggesting anything but why is it the media are not asking these questions?

According to the pics I saw, there was sure as hell a "bar tray" in her bathroom the day she died. Plus prescription drugs in her room--valium and xanex, I think? She could have taken a hot bath, suddenly lowering her blood pressue on top of the alcohol and the the prescription drugs. To compensate, her heart rate could have then increased, leading to a cardiac arrest. It's sounds to me like a perfect storm... Again, here she was in this situation--not alone, but with people in the other room. That to me is the really sad part of the situation. And they were fearful something was going to happen to her... but it's like playing with fire. Somebody should have called even the hotel doctor--an outsider to evaluate a potentially dangerous situation--not to mention that she had officially fallen off the wagon.

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The drinks were in the room, not the bathroom. We don't know how much she drank.

We don't know how many pills she took. It were within prescription range, it's not an overdose.

I think it's accidental.

Why call the hotel doctor? She was visibly dead when she was found.

deadmansbones said:

Dreamer2 said:

What? maybe you need to read the back story on these two icons of the 80's ... There is more linking them than just the person friendship ... both died in a tragic way ... pushed by the "business" into an overworked drug prep comeback?

But why? .... money that's why? ... who was the money for if MJ was out of contract? ... did these guys need the money?

MJ and Whitney could have done one off TV specials around the world with special guest over a period of years ..... but they had to rush them into world tours pumping them with drugs....

As chaka Khan said of one of her ex managers "you know you'll be worth more dead than alive"

I watched Pierce Morgan last night. And a songwriter with short, black hair was on there talking about the dynamics. He asked why didn't any of her friends do anything when they saw Whitney drinking at that party.

She said there was nothing they could do. That if anyone would have tried Whitney would have thrown a fit.But I just think that's an old and tired excuse. I'm sorry; I just do.

I just think somebody should have had the balls enough to try. He/she wouldn't have to talk to Whitney directly. Why not talk to her manager? Why not talk to one of her family members that were there. Was there not a single, responsible person in either Whitney's entourage or in the room a friend couldn't have expressed concerned to?

If all else fails, make an anonymous call to the police! I don't know if the police could have done anything but offer some advice. But at least be on-record as trying to do something.

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What could the police do? Alcohol is legal.

How do you know no one said anything to her?

Why can't she drink and be treated as an adult?

If she hadn't died on Saturday you would not have written a post about her drinking Thursday or Friday.

LATE PASS NEEDED! I just finished listening to the infamous interview Whitney did with Wendy Williams on YT. In the past, I just heard the soundbites in entertainment news. This shit is HILARIOUS! She was totally prepared for any question she asked her. No matter how MESSY and inappropriate the question was, Whitney served her ass well. It gave me some much needed comic relief. "You are so fuckin nosey, man!" It's full of one-liners and quick witted come backs that really threw Wendy for a loop. She wasn't ready for Ms. Houston.

On another note: In spite of Whitney keeping Wendy in check. Whitney was still generous with what she shared. She just was in full control of it all. You can hear East Orange all throughout the interview...

deadmansbones said:

Identity said:

Maybe Foster didn't want to speculate too much about Whitney's diminished singing voice, so he pointed toward the natural aging process. The question is this: If the central problem was vocal cord nodules or polyps, why wasn't she seeking medical treatment to have the damaged tissue removed?

But he did speculate by saying it was part of the natural aging process. In fact, his speculation was not necessarily accurate. A lot singers don't lose vocal range due to aging,necessarily.

Besides Whitney was only 48, correct? It's not like she was 68.

This is the thing. I understand how speculation can be annoying and irresponsible. At the same time, it's equally irresponsible not to discuss the realities of being a vocalist either--particularly in pop music where good vocal training is not necessarily emphasized.

Kelly Clarkson had vocal polyps. I'm not sure she had surgery, but I believe I read she was diagnosed.

If Whitney had polyps it may have well been due to a combination of factors. From what I could tell in some of her past interviews, her speaking voice had been hoarse for years. She may have been diagnosed but was afraid to have surgery. At the same time, what surgeon is going to risk operating on a drug addict? Even if it were possible, polyps can recur without proper care. So I would imagine, treating Whitney for even vocal problems would have been very complicated. But that doesn't negate the fact she clearly had vocal problems.

The same thing is true about Whitney's death. It very well be she died from some other cause besides an accidental overdose. But that doesn't negate the fact drug use had taken their toll on her physically and emotionally.

It's just like with Amy Winehouse, Heath Ledger, Anna Nicole Smith, Michael Jackson among others. Everyone is always saying, "Let's not speculate..." But then weeks later it turns out that all the speculation was indeed correct.

As I said, technically speaking, Jim Morrison died of a heart attack while in a bathtub in Paris. He was there, trying to keep clean. He wasn't even 30 years old when he died, right? He may have not died specifically as a result of a drug overdose. But..the physical toll of his drug and alcohol abuse may have contributed to his premature death.

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It didn't have to be an overdose to kill her.

SUPRMAN said:

ladygirl99 said:

Exactly. Why I got a feeling she did NOT died on Saturday?

Oh please. The coroner's report would have pointed out if she'd been dead for an extended period.

Immersion in water wouldn't affect that either.

Did you seen the coroner report? Last time I checked the police is tight lipped about the full findings until the toxicology test get back or whatever that means.

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SUPRMAN said:

deadmansbones said:

According to the pics I saw, there was sure as hell a "bar tray" in her bathroom the day she died. Plus prescription drugs in her room--valium and xanex, I think? She could have taken a hot bath, suddenly lowering her blood pressue on top of the alcohol and the the prescription drugs. To compensate, her heart rate could have then increased, leading to a cardiac arrest. It's sounds to me like a perfect storm... Again, here she was in this situation--not alone, but with people in the other room. That to me is the really sad part of the situation. And they were fearful something was going to happen to her... but it's like playing with fire. Somebody should have called even the hotel doctor--an outsider to evaluate a potentially dangerous situation--not to mention that she had officially fallen off the wagon.

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The drinks were in the room, not the bathroom. We don't know how much she drank.

We don't know how many pills she took. It were within prescription range, it's not an overdose.

I think it's accidental.

Why call the hotel doctor? She was visibly dead when she was found.

The pics I saw, she had a bottle of champagne, some beer and some food with her in the bathroom!

As far as calling the doctor, if you read my entire post, I said "somebody should have called the hotel doctor to evaluate a potentially dangerous situation--if she were taking prescription drugs like xanax and valium, mixing it with alcohol. I said if they were fearful something was going to happen to her...

BTW, I actually passed-out in the shower once, taking over-the-counter decongestants according to the directions, and I wasn't even drinking.

So.. I'm just suggesting that drinking alcohol and taking anti depressants then taking a hot bath or even shower is dangerous whether or not this particular combination actually contributed to Whitney's death.

But I guess you and I will just have to agree to disagree.

SUPRMAN said:

deadmansbones said:

I watched Pierce Morgan last night. And a songwriter with short, black hair was on there talking about the dynamics. He asked why didn't any of her friends do anything when they saw Whitney drinking at that party.

She said there was nothing they could do. That if anyone would have tried Whitney would have thrown a fit.But I just think that's an old and tired excuse. I'm sorry; I just do.

I just think somebody should have had the balls enough to try. He/she wouldn't have to talk to Whitney directly. Why not talk to her manager? Why not talk to one of her family members that were there. Was there not a single, responsible person in either Whitney's entourage or in the room a friend couldn't have expressed concerned to?

If all else fails, make an anonymous call to the police! I don't know if the police could have done anything but offer some advice. But at least be on-record as trying to do something.

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What could the police do? Alcohol is legal.

How do you know no one said anything to her?

Why can't she drink and be treated as an adult?

If she hadn't died on Saturday you would not have written a post about her drinking Thursday or Friday.

the point being, the press and witness statements seemed to have omitted (for some reason) Whitney Houston's actions on the 10th of February. all news and pix were taken on the 9th of Feb. (i've scanned the net for any pix or news about Friday prior to her death to no avail.)

I'm sure no one who questions her activities on the 10th of Feb, think she may have been already dead on that date. once again, the questionable photos and pix were all taken on the 9th of feb. nothing on the 10th. (strange)

deadmansbones said:

SUPRMAN said:

The drinks were in the room, not the bathroom. We don't know how much she drank.

We don't know how many pills she took. It were within prescription range, it's not an overdose.

I think it's accidental.

Why call the hotel doctor? She was visibly dead when she was found.

The pics I saw, she had a bottle of champagne, some beer and some food with her in the bathroom!

As far as calling the doctor, if you read my entire post, I said "somebody should have called the hotel doctor to evaluate a potentially dangerous situation--if she were taking prescription drugs like xanax and valium, mixing it with alcohol. I said if they were fearful something was going to happen to her...

BTW, I actually passed-out in the shower once, taking over-the-counter decongestants according to the directions, and I wasn't even drinking.

So.. I'm just suggesting that drinking alcohol and taking anti depressants then taking a hot bath or even shower is dangerous whether or not this particular combination actually contributed to Whitney's death.

But I guess you and I will just have to agree to disagree.

The bottle of champagne etc was in the hotel room, not the bathroom. She had another tray in the bathroom that didn't show any glasses. Don't know if she was drinking in the bathroom also.

Why would someone call the doctor to evaluate a potentially dangerous situation? You are assuming someone observed her drinking and taking pills and would see behavior that would warrant medical intervention.

Do you know how many people mix pills and alcohol to go out?!

That isn't enough to have triggered such a response.

So who would have been fearful?

Now this is interesting

http://www.theinsider.com...t_Moments/

So something must have happen to her before she fully supposely went in the water.

ladygirl99 said:

SUPRMAN said:

Oh please. The coroner's report would have pointed out if she'd been dead for an extended period.

Immersion in water wouldn't affect that either.

Did you seen the coroner report? Last time I checked the police is tight lipped about the full findings until the toxicology test get back or whatever that means.

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There is no criminal investigation into her death. There is no dispute about the time of death.

If there was a dispute about the time of death that would have meant more than toxicology reports were needed.

IF her body were placed in the tub after her death, the coroner could determine that also. That would lead to a criminal investigation.

The toxicology report is to determine if alcohol or drugs are a cause or contributing factor. That is all they are waiting to determine.

Foul play has definitively been ruled out.

free2bfreeda said:

SUPRMAN said:

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What could the police do? Alcohol is legal.

How do you know no one said anything to her?

Why can't she drink and be treated as an adult?

If she hadn't died on Saturday you would not have written a post about her drinking Thursday or Friday.

the point being, the press and witness statements seemed to have omitted (for some reason) Whitney Houston's actions on the 10th of February. all news and pix were taken on the 9th of Feb. (i've scanned the net for any pix or news about Friday prior to her death to no avail.)

I'm sure no one who questions her activities on the 10th of Feb, think she may have been already dead on that date. once again, the questionable photos and pix were all taken on the 9th of feb. nothing on the 10th. (strange)

Actually, yes I would.

Mixing presciption drugs and alcohol is a recipe for disaster. Just because she may have gotten away with it before, doesn't mean her luck would continue to hold-out.

And like I said, adding to the scenario that she took a bath--which can lower your blood pressure, causing your heart to race--possible into a cardiac arrest just increases the likelihood something bad was going to happen.

Yeah... if she were my friend.. just out of rehab or in and out of rehab, and I saw her drinking again, knowing she was on prescription drugs, too. I sure as hell would have tried to do something.

No, the police wouldn't have been able to arrest her, but maybe they could have offer some advice on what exactly to do.

ladygirl99 said:

Now this is interesting

http://www.theinsider.com...t_Moments/

So something must have happen to her before she fully supposely went in the water.

A source close to the situation tells Kevin that the pop icon was found slumped over the side of the bathtub with her head face down submerged in the water, but with her legs still outside of the bathtub. Multiple reports until now have indicated that Whitney was found underwater when she was discovered on Saturday.

The source added that people who spent time with Whitney in the hours preceding her death said it did not appear the superstar was under the influence.

Attempts to revive the 48-year-old singer were not successful at the Beverly Hills Hilton, where she was found hours before she was to appear at producer Clive Davis' annual pre-Grammy Awards party.

An autopsy was conducted on Sunday, but no cause of death has been determined pending the results of toxicology reports that are expected to take several weeks. Authorities have said there were no indications of foul play and no obvious signs of trauma when they examined Houston's body.

deadmansbones said:

free2bfreeda said:

the point being, the press and witness statements seemed to have omitted (for some reason) Whitney Houston's actions on the 10th of February. all news and pix were taken on the 9th of Feb. (i've scanned the net for any pix or news about Friday prior to her death to no avail.)

I'm sure no one who questions her activities on the 10th of Feb, think she may have been already dead on that date. once again, the questionable photos and pix were all taken on the 9th of feb. nothing on the 10th. (strange)

Actually, yes I would.

Mixing presciption drugs and alcohol is a recipe for disaster. Just because she may have gotten away with it before, doesn't mean her luck would continue to hold-out.

And like I said, adding to the scenario that she took a bath--which can lower your blood pressure, causing your heart to race--possible into a cardiac arrest just increases the likelihood something bad was going to happen.

Yeah... if she were my friend.. just out of rehab or in and out of rehab, and I saw her drinking again, knowing she was on prescription drugs, too. I sure as hell would have tried to do something.

No, the police wouldn't have been able to arrest her, but maybe they could have offer some advice on what exactly to do.

Why would the police have even shown up? So she's drinking. She's an adult, it's legal.

Police don't regulate people's drinking, nor come out to tell people maybe they've had enough.

Whitney Houston: The Vultures Are Out, And Demanding Their Money

'Glee': Watch Amber Riley Cover Whitney Houston's 'I Will Always Love You' (Video)

In a strange twist of fate, the Fox series had planned to feature the Dolly Parton song in Tuesday's Valentine's Day episode.

SUPRMAN said:

deadmansbones said:

The pics I saw, she had a bottle of champagne, some beer and some food with her in the bathroom!

As far as calling the doctor, if you read my entire post, I said "somebody should have called the hotel doctor to evaluate a potentially dangerous situation--if she were taking prescription drugs like xanax and valium, mixing it with alcohol. I said if they were fearful something was going to happen to her...

BTW, I actually passed-out in the shower once, taking over-the-counter decongestants according to the directions, and I wasn't even drinking.

So.. I'm just suggesting that drinking alcohol and taking anti depressants then taking a hot bath or even shower is dangerous whether or not this particular combination actually contributed to Whitney's death.

But I guess you and I will just have to agree to disagree.

The bottle of champagne etc was in the hotel room, not the bathroom. She had another tray in the bathroom that didn't show any glasses. Don't know if she was drinking in the bathroom also.

Why would someone call the doctor to evaluate a potentially dangerous situation? You are assuming someone observed her drinking and taking pills and would see behavior that would warrant medical intervention.

Do you know how many people mix pills and alcohol to go out?!

That isn't enough to have triggered such a response.

So who would have been fearful?

I'm all for giving somebody the benefit of the doubt. But Whitney's death looks highly suspicious to me.

And even if she did die from something else that doesn't necessarily mean taking prescription drugs and drinking is safe.

As I've said, I've had personal experience with blacking out in the shower after taking cold medication in the prescribed dosage, no alcohol involved at all.

Oh... btw, the pics I saw the beer and champagne were in the bathroom with her? And even if they weren't, I'm telling you if she had been drinking, taking prescription drugs, and then decided to take a hot bath, that's a perfect storm for disaster.

So again, you and I will just have to agree to disagree.

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SUPRMAN said:

deadmansbones said:

Actually, yes I would.

Mixing presciption drugs and alcohol is a recipe for disaster. Just because she may have gotten away with it before, doesn't mean her luck would continue to hold-out.

And like I said, adding to the scenario that she took a bath--which can lower your blood pressure, causing your heart to race--possible into a cardiac arrest just increases the likelihood something bad was going to happen.

Yeah... if she were my friend.. just out of rehab or in and out of rehab, and I saw her drinking again, knowing she was on prescription drugs, too. I sure as hell would have tried to do something.

No, the police wouldn't have been able to arrest her, but maybe they could have offer some advice on what exactly to do.

Why would the police have even shown up? So she's drinking. She's an adult, it's legal.

Police don't regulate people's drinking, nor come out to tell people maybe they've had enough.

Dude, I didn't say anything about the police showing up. I said IF I felt my friend was in trouble due to her own demons, the police might be able to advise me what to do or who to call.

In my opinion, it's better than doing nothing at all.

So again, we're going to have to agree to disagree.

SUPRMAN said:

Why would the police have even shown up? So she's drinking. She's an adult, it's legal.

Police don't regulate people's drinking, nor come out to tell people maybe they've had enough.

my question to you is: don't you wonder why there is no information or pictures or witness statements of to the where abouts or activities surrounding Whitney Houston on the Friday (Feb 10) prior to her death. (and no i do not think she was dead prior to the saturday of her death.)

it's so weird. even the timeline covering the events prior to her death start on the 9th, omit the 10th and resume on the 11th. i know there are no absolutes to the story at this time, but darn it, what's up with the 10th and no info?

SUPRMAN said:

ladygirl99 said:

Did you seen the coroner report? Last time I checked the police is tight lipped about the full findings until the toxicology test get back or whatever that means.

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There is no criminal investigation into her death. There is no dispute about the time of death.

If there was a dispute about the time of death that would have meant more than toxicology reports were needed.

IF her body were placed in the tub after her death, the coroner could determine that also. That would lead to a criminal investigation.

The toxicology report is to determine if alcohol or drugs are a cause or contributing factor. That is all they are waiting to determine.

Foul play has definitively been ruled out.

Again I never said she was murder but I am not ruling out anything.

And also I dont trust LAPD nor coroner reports for being but I give you props of trusting corrupt as LAPD. You continue to believe everything the police is telling the public while I am going to continue to think for myself .

Posted at 09:03 AM ET, 02/15/2012 Bobby Brown invited to Whitney Houston’s funeral;

By Sarah Anne Hughes

Bobby Brown has been contacted about attending Whitney Houston’s funeral Saturday, sources tell ABC News. TMZ reported that members of Houston’s family had objected to Brown attending the service, which will be by invitation only, but ABC’s source called this “inaccurate.” Brown is in California with his daughter, Bobbi Kristina, who has been hospitalized twice since her mother’s death. In a statement Brown said his daughter “is dealing with the tragedy of her mother’s death and would prefer to do it outside of the public eye. I ask again that our privacy be respected.” (ABC News; TMZ)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/celebritology/post/bobby-brown-invited-to-whitney-houstons-funeral-adele-isnt-taking-five-years-off/2012/02/15/gIQAxlUaFR_blog.html?tid=pm_entertainment_pop

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SUPRMAN said:

ladygirl99 said:

Now this is interesting

http://www.theinsider.com...t_Moments/

So something must have happen to her before she fully supposely went in the water.

A source close to the situation tells Kevin that the pop icon was found slumped over the side of the bathtub with her head face down submerged in the water, but with her legs still outside of the bathtub. Multiple reports until now have indicated that Whitney was found underwater when she was discovered on Saturday.

The source added that people who spent time with Whitney in the hours preceding her death said it did not appear the superstar was under the influence.

Attempts to revive the 48-year-old singer were not successful at the Beverly Hills Hilton, where she was found hours before she was to appear at producer Clive Davis' annual pre-Grammy Awards party.

An autopsy was conducted on Sunday, but no cause of death has been determined pending the results of toxicology reports that are expected to take several weeks. Authorities have said there were no indications of foul play and no obvious signs of trauma when they examined Houston's body.

Even if she had run her bath water, and there was steam... if it was hot in there, that might have been enough to cause a sudden drop in blood pressure.

In fact, even sitting down or standing up, too fast can cause a sudden drop on blood pressure.

Even if she were on prescribed medication and had been drinking, this could have caused cardiac problems, too.

And even if she had been drinking in excess all that week, but not on that day, this could have cause some cardio-vascular problems.

All I know for sure is alcohol is a depressant. Valium is depressant. Xanax is a depressant. All of those can lower your blood pressure. But then to compensate, your heart starts racing. Then heat exposure can lower your blood pressure, too.

As a matter of fact, excessive alcohol consumption can contribute to heart and blood pressure problems, too. Your blood pressure can lower initially, but then eventually elevate to where you can have high blood pressure.

It is dangerous to even drink alcohol and take decongestants. So... that's all I know.

If Whitney had died while a passenger in somebody else's car, for sure there would be no indication that her drug and alcohol problems contributed to her death.

But that still doesn't mean she wasn't playing with fire if she was drinking and taking prescription drugs. It just hadn't caught up with her.

And by all accounts, she didn't slip and hit her head in the bathroom. So as far as I'm concerned, the situation was dangerous.

free2bfreeda said:

i know there are no absolutes to the story at this time, but darn it, what's up with the 10th and no info?

Maybe she stayed in doors at the hotel all day, recovering from a hangover and her embarrassing appearance at Tru nightclub in Hollywood.

SUPRMAN said:

So she's drinking. She's an adult, it's legal.

A person who'd completed mutliple stints in rehabs like Whitney shouldn't casually drink alcohol. Period.

banks said:

Posted at 09:03 AM ET, 02/15/2012 Bobby Brown invited to Whitney Houston’s funeral;

By Sarah Anne Hughes

Bobby Brown has been contacted about attending Whitney Houston’s funeral Saturday, sources tell ABC News. TMZ reported that members of Houston’s family had objected to Brown attending the service, which will be by invitation only, but ABC’s source called this “inaccurate.” Brown is in California with his daughter, Bobbi Kristina, who has been hospitalized twice since her mother’s death. In a statement Brown said his daughter “is dealing with the tragedy of her mother’s death and would prefer to do it outside of the public eye. I ask again that our privacy be respected.” (ABC News; TMZ)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/celebritology/post/bobby-brown-invited-to-whitney-houstons-funeral-adele-isnt-taking-five-years-off/2012/02/15/gIQAxlUaFR_blog.html?tid=pm_entertainment_pop

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Somebody or people from her camp are racking up right now with these so-called TMZ leaks. They're feeding them what they want to hear so they can get paid.

deadmansbones said:

banks said:

Whitney Houston Had Premonition About Death

Whitney Houston told friends she "really wanted to see Jesus" in the days before her death ... and claimed she had a feeling the end was near for her ... this according to several of Whitney's friends.

TMZ has learned ... Whitney had been very spiritual in her final days ... quoting the bible, singing hymns and engaging in intense conversations about Jesus Christ and the afterlife with her close friends and family members.

We're told .... on Friday , one day after she performed, "Yes Jesus Loves Me" at Tru nightclub in Hollywood, Whitney told one of her friends, "I'm gonna go see Jesus ... I want to see Jesus."

The next morning, hours before her death, Whitney was discussing a bible passage involving John the Baptist and Jesus ... when Houston flashed a big smile and remarked, "You know, he's so cool ... I really want to see that Jesus."

Another source tells us ... Whitney had been telling friends she "felt like her time was coming" ... and wanted to make sure she spent her time praising her lord and savior whenever she could.

Unfortunately, Whitney's premonition came true.

Sounds to me if this is true, she knew she was playing with fire, but probably so screwed-up to do anything about it.

IF and that's a big IF all of this is true, it sounds to me like she had given up.

Plus, I bet she was depressed... about a lot of things.

I just don't buy into the notion it's was all Whitney's fault. Or let's say, I WON'T buy into the notion until I see some evidence somebody indeed went above and beyond the call of duty to help her.

Her daughter couldn't do it... She's just a kid, for goodness sakes.

As Chaka said, Whitney she NEVER have gone to LA without somebody reputable to keep the losers away. I, personally, don't think she should have gone at all under any circumstances.

With all due respect, Whitney was a grown ass woman who was very well aware of her demons and who was good for her and who wasn't. She knew who would stop her from doing drugs and who wouldn't. As much as we would like to cast doubt on someone else, an addict cannot be stopped until the addict wants to stop. That is if indeed her death is illegal drug related. She very well may have been prescribed those drugs legally and without malice and chose upon her self to take them in a way not prescribed. EVERYONE knows you should not take sedatives with alcohol. This is nothing new. Again, if it is drug related. It could be a case that all the damage she previously did to her body came back on her.

We the public do not know her private life or her private demons. We want to believe the "America's Sweetheart" persona created, but that may or not be the truth of who she was. We just don't know. We want to believe that all of this is someone's fault other than Whitney's, but in the end, it may be no one's fault but Whitney's.

Whitney Houston Sells 1 Million Albums, Singles Since Death

Singer's catalog sales surged following her death, including nearly 900,000 individual tracks moved.

By Gil Kaufman

Much as they did after the deaths of Michael Jackson and Amy Winehouse, fans of Whitney Houston rushed out to buy the late diva's music in the wake of her passing on Saturday.

Billboard reported that Houston's only hits package,Whitney: The Greatest Hits, is poised to re-enter the Billboard 200 chart this week at #6 after selling 64,000 copies, according to Nielsen SoundScan.

Most amazingly, that jump in purchases represent just one full day of sales, since the reporting week ended on February 12. Houston was found dead midday in Los Angeles the day before of as-yet-undetermined causes. The uptick for the Greatest collection represents a 10,419 percent gain over the pervious week, when it moved just under 1,000 copies.

A number of other Houston albums also moved back up the charts, including her 1986 debut Whitney Houston, which jumped to #72 on sales of 8,000 (a 3,901 percent rise), the soundtrack to "The Bodyguard" (#80 on sales of 8,000, up 5,213 percent) and her final studio album, I Look to You(#118 on sales of 5,000, up 3,901 percent). The magazine reported that more Houston albums were purchased in the last week — over 101,000 — than had been sold in all of 2011 and 2012 to date.

The most impressive figures, though, were the number of digital tracks fans purchased. In all, there were 887,000 downloads over the past week, a gain of 5,730 over the previous week's 15,000 tracks sold. The biggest gainer was, of course, her signature song, "I Will Always Love You," which moved 195,000 units, a 6,742 percent gain over the previous week.

While that song enters the Digital Songs chart at #3, seven other songs hit the Digital Songs chart as well, including "I Wanna Dance With Somebody (Who Loves Me)" (#25, 74,000, up 8,769 percent), "Greatest Love of All" (#32, 60,000, up 7,270 percent), "How Will I Know" (#46, 43,000, up 5,767 percent), "I Have Nothing" (#53, 38,000, up 5,179 percent), "Saving All My Love for You" (#65, 33,000, up 6,423 percent), "One Moment in Time" (#74, 30,000, up 6,206 percent) and Houston's rendition of "The Star Spangled Banner" (#75, 29,000, up 8,278 percent).

Next week's chart should see an even bigger boost to Houston's catalog as it will reflect a full week of sales.

http://www.mtv.com/news/a...ales.jhtml

BklynDiamond said:

deadmansbones said:

Sounds to me if this is true, she knew she was playing with fire, but probably so screwed-up to do anything about it.

IF and that's a big IF all of this is true, it sounds to me like she had given up.

Plus, I bet she was depressed... about a lot of things.

I just don't buy into the notion it's was all Whitney's fault. Or let's say, I WON'T buy into the notion until I see some evidence somebody indeed went above and beyond the call of duty to help her.

Her daughter couldn't do it... She's just a kid, for goodness sakes.

As Chaka said, Whitney she NEVER have gone to LA without somebody reputable to keep the losers away. I, personally, don't think she should have gone at all under any circumstances.

With all due respect, Whitney was a grown ass woman who was very well aware of her demons and who was good for her and who wasn't. She knew who would stop her from doing drugs and who wouldn't. As much as we would like to cast doubt on someone else, an addict cannot be stopped until the addict wants to stop. That is if indeed her death is illegal drug related. She very well may have been prescribed those drugs legally and without malice and chose upon her self to take them in a way not prescribed. EVERYONE knows you should not take sedatives with alcohol. This is nothing new. Again, if it is drug related. It could be a case that all the damage she previously did to her body came back on her.

We the public do not know her private life or her private demons. We want to believe the "America's Sweetheart" persona created, but that may or not be the truth of who she was. We just don't know. We want to believe that all of this is someone's fault other than Whitney's, but in the end, it may be no one's fault but Whitney's.

Well, I just don't know why she would need xanax and valium, and according to reports, those were in her possession. I don't they found any illegal drugs?

I just feel like... she spent multiple times in rehab. It's not like she NEVER went to rehab. There had to be a doctor, a counselor.. a professional to call when she started drinking again at least, much less anything else.

From what I read, she was in an out-patient program? Doesn't that mean she and her family had access to a counselor at least?

And apparently, as some of the conversation has indicated, a lot of people don't know what some of the drugs mixed with alcohol can do to your system. The don't really understand the danger even though there might be label warnings or even verbal warnings from a doctor.

Honestly, I just think people basically says.. "She's a grown ass woman..." and don't even try to intervene--not that intervening will necessarily save anyone. But at least a person has to dry.

But this comes from an intervener in a variety of situations. It's just the way I am.

As I said, if I had a friend in a similar situation as Whitney's you had better believe, I try even if I couldn't talk to her directly because she'd probably be...beligerant. I'd figure out a way to try to do something.

[Edited 2/15/12 8:39am]

Harlepolis said:

Meanwhile, Ray J is nowhere to be heard/seen.

Whitney's taste in men was definitely questionable. She exchanged vows with reformed thug Bobby, divorced him only to hook up with professional leech Ray J.

NaughtyKitty said:

Whitney Houston Sells 1 Million Albums, Singles Since Death

Singer's catalog sales surged following her death, including nearly 900,000 individual tracks moved.

By Gil Kaufman

Much as they did after the deaths of Michael Jackson and Amy Winehouse, fans of Whitney Houston rushed out to buy the late diva's music in the wake of her passing on Saturday.

Billboard reported that Houston's only hits package,Whitney: The Greatest Hits, is poised to re-enter the Billboard 200 chart this week at #6 after selling 64,000 copies, according to Nielsen SoundScan.

Most amazingly, that jump in purchases represent just one full day of sales, since the reporting week ended on February 12. Houston was found dead midday in Los Angeles the day before of as-yet-undetermined causes. The uptick for the Greatest collection represents a 10,419 percent gain over the pervious week, when it moved just under 1,000 copies.

A number of other Houston albums also moved back up the charts, including her 1986 debut Whitney Houston, which jumped to #72 on sales of 8,000 (a 3,901 percent rise), the soundtrack to "The Bodyguard" (#80 on sales of 8,000, up 5,213 percent) and her final studio album, I Look to You(#118 on sales of 5,000, up 3,901 percent). The magazine reported that more Houston albums were purchased in the last week — over 101,000 — than had been sold in all of 2011 and 2012 to date.

The most impressive figures, though, were the number of digital tracks fans purchased. In all, there were 887,000 downloads over the past week, a gain of 5,730 over the previous week's 15,000 tracks sold. The biggest gainer was, of course, her signature song, "I Will Always Love You," which moved 195,000 units, a 6,742 percent gain over the previous week.

While that song enters the Digital Songs chart at #3, seven other songs hit the Digital Songs chart as well, including "I Wanna Dance With Somebody (Who Loves Me)" (#25, 74,000, up 8,769 percent), "Greatest Love of All" (#32, 60,000, up 7,270 percent), "How Will I Know" (#46, 43,000, up 5,767 percent), "I Have Nothing" (#53, 38,000, up 5,179 percent), "Saving All My Love for You" (#65, 33,000, up 6,423 percent), "One Moment in Time" (#74, 30,000, up 6,206 percent) and Houston's rendition of "The Star Spangled Banner" (#75, 29,000, up 8,278 percent).

Next week's chart should see an even bigger boost to Houston's catalog as it will reflect a full week of sales.

http://www.mtv.com/news/a...ales.jhtml

Remember the line, "Every time a bell rings an angel gets his wings" from It's a Wonderful Life? For record companies, the line becomes "Every time an artist dies, we cash in like there's no tomorrow."

Look at Tupac. We may be halfway through the 22nd century and his posthumous albums will still be gold. Amy Winehouse had a significant increase in record sales the week after her death. Hendrix, Joplin, Cobain, and Morrison (just to name a few) have all attained legendary status.