musicjunky318 said:

mjscarousal said:

WOW we got some brandy fans up in here

Yall taking me back to babygirl days I miss Brandy with the braids wish she could have kept them.

Me tooooo. I love Brandyyyy. She's one of the artists I really want to see have a strong comeback.

I really love Brandy to!!

I find her to be very underrated. Im glad their are some fans here! YAY

Brandy just needs to stay true to R&b like she always does and she should be fine. I hope she has a strong one as well.

Terrib3Towel said:

Poor Brandy and Monica. They both have the same problem, they were both in the game waay too young and peaked too early. Neither one of these are taken serious as an artist these days. Monica was getting good airplay back when "Everything To Me' was hot, but that's about it. And how many ablums have Brandy released since trying to become more "adult?" That hasn't really worked out for her LOL. I feel kinda bad for them, they're so young yet can't catch a break. Beyonce is basically the same age as them and the little kiddies can't get enough of her.

I know it is sad because they exactly have raw talent and not manufactured bullshit. They exactly grew up in the industry at an early age and it wasnt built off of marketing an image but producing their music and singing.

musicjunky318 said:

PlayboyOriginal said:

Go to Billboard.com and check their career paths. Monica still holds the record for being the youngest artist to capture 7 Top 10's on the Hot 100. She's had 3 Hot 100 #1's and 6 or 7 R&B #1's. Each album since The Boy Is Mine has either been #1 on the Hot 200 or R&B albums charts. Monica was just honored by ASCAP for her career achievements.

http://hellobeautiful.com/files/2011/11/monica-mona-ascap2.jpg <------ picture is too big to be posting it LOL but there she is with her award

Brandy has sold more records than Monica so I don't know what you're talking about. Shitty actress? Compared to who? Meryl Streep maybe. She's a lot more solid than a lot of these singers who attempt "crossing over." And whether you like her or not she's had success. Cinderalla, Double Platinum, I Still Know What You Did Last Summer. People forget Norwood was the it black girl before Beyonce left Destiny's Child. She even had dolls and shit. She was the black Britney.

A teen queen.

Brandy is a WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY better actress Beyonce will ever be... She also had dolls... I had one!

Brittany had dolls to

Britney sold way more though, and it's unfair why though I will not get into that here.

And yeah unlike Beyonce, Brandy IS an actress, people forget she started out on Thea as one but she happened to also be very passionate about music and it was raw from the start of her first album. Beyonce just does movies so she can "become" a legend, it's bullshit. Though I like Bee, I WILL call her out too.

I love Beyonce but she has got to be one of the worst singer-turned-actors ever. She has no on-screen presence, everything is monotone, can't deliver one single line with emotion. I remember going to see Obsessed. I was cringing all the way through. Mariah's even out-done her now because of Precious.

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LoneJamba said:

I have always felt that while, Monica is a better singer, it was Brandy who got the better material. I have not liked anything Monica has put out since her second album. Everything she's put out, sounds old and dated. Her last album, sounded old and dated. I did not like that song, "Everything To Me" because, whoever edited that Denise Williams sample, did a shitty job. I don't know what Monica was thinking, when she choose to use a sample instead of having musicians playing the track over. As for Brandy, I am not too fond of her voice and I think her best CD, was her first. That being said, even if I don't like her voice, I can still pull something out of her songs....Can't say that about Monica.

Wow---I actually like it.

Terrib3Towel said:

Poor Brandy and Monica. They both have the same problem, they were both in the game waay too young and peaked too early. Neither one of these are taken serious as an artist these days. Monica was getting good airplay back when "Everything To Me' was hot, but that's about it. And how many ablums have Brandy released since trying to become more "adult?" That hasn't really worked out for her LOL. I feel kinda bad for them, they're so young yet can't catch a break. Beyonce is basically the same age as them and the little kiddies can't get enough of her.

Because Brandy was always portrayed as "America's little sweetheart" and miss "innocent" when she first came out. So it was hard for her to transition from Teen innocent to adult star.

Monica's music is really too "urban" to really have crossover appeal.

musicjunky318 said:

mjscarousal said:

Nah Brandy is a much better dancer than Beyonce but I agree with all the other points you made. Beyonce is similiar to Madonna as far as dancing goes. They are both mediocre dancers but have their good or okay moments. Most of the time their backup dancers outshine them thats why they have them.

And I do agree with the oversaturation/pimping out of how she was marketed is how she was able to last.

I think Monica has a very strong voice and alot of her 90s material is good but I guess Brandy has a stronger catalogue she exactly has classics. I Wanna Be Down comes to mind instantly... Full Moon was a really good criminally underrated R&B album. If I am not mistaken I dont think neither one of them have ever tried going the pop route with their music...

But I think out of that 90s bunch as far as female DANCERS goes Mya is better than all of them and Aaliyah comes second. Mya is a very underrated dancer.

Britney, Janet, Paula Abdul, Mya, and Jennifer Lopez were/are dancers. There's a difference between what they did and what the rest do. I don't put Aaliyah alongside them. She wasn't that strong.

If You listed Britney Spears as a "true dancer" then why not Aaliyah?

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Pressure said:

Terrib3Towel said:

Poor Brandy and Monica. They both have the same problem, they were both in the game waay too young and peaked too early. Neither one of these are taken serious as an artist these days. Monica was getting good airplay back when "Everything To Me' was hot, but that's about it. And how many ablums have Brandy released since trying to become more "adult?" That hasn't really worked out for her LOL. I feel kinda bad for them, they're so young yet can't catch a break. Beyonce is basically the same age as them and the little kiddies can't get enough of her.

Because Brandy was always portrayed as "America's little sweetheart" and miss "innocent" when she first came out. So it was hard for her to transition from Teen innocent to adult star.

Monica's music is really too "urban" to really have crossover appeal.

In regards to that image: I remember when she got pregnant and how terrible she and her management handled it. That might have been the beginning of her downfall. Didn't she lie about being married at the time and got caught in the lie? I guess they didn't want to be seen as another person having a kid out of wedlock. I think Atlantic Records knew her image or "brand" was damaged, and didn't want to invest in heavy promotion for "Full Moon". Which is a shame, because I believed it contained she and Rodney's best work together. Her motherhood was the transition into adulthood whether her audience was ready for it or not.

Pressure said:

musicjunky318 said:

Britney, Janet, Paula Abdul, Mya, and Jennifer Lopez were/are dancers. There's a difference between what they did and what the rest do. I don't put Aaliyah alongside them. She wasn't that strong.

If You listed Britney Spears as a "true dancer" then why not Aaliyah?

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Exacty... I never thought Brittany was much of a dancer but once again alot better than Beyonce and Gaga..

I wouldnt mention them in the same likes as Janet, Paula and Jennifer. They are real dancers. They all started out as dancers.

musicjunky318 said:

I love Beyonce but she has got to be one of the worst singer-turned-actors ever. She has no on-screen presence, everything is monotone, can't deliver one single line with emotion. I remember going to see Obsessed. I was cringing all the way through. Mariah's even out-done her now because of Precious.

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She is a very very very bad actress. Its mind blowing Clint would even consider to do a movie or anyone would want to do a movie with her the only reason would be for publicity. Besides her voice, I just find her to be overrated in general.

Pressure said:

Terrib3Towel said:

Poor Brandy and Monica. They both have the same problem, they were both in the game waay too young and peaked too early. Neither one of these are taken serious as an artist these days. Monica was getting good airplay back when "Everything To Me' was hot, but that's about it. And how many ablums have Brandy released since trying to become more "adult?" That hasn't really worked out for her LOL. I feel kinda bad for them, they're so young yet can't catch a break. Beyonce is basically the same age as them and the little kiddies can't get enough of her.

Because Brandy was always portrayed as "America's little sweetheart" and miss "innocent" when she first came out. So it was hard for her to transition from Teen innocent to adult star.

Monica's music is really too "urban" to really have crossover appeal.

When she first came out she made the same kind music that was similiar to Mary J... whoes of young black girl etc...If Mary J can cross over so could should she... generally I think in order to cross over you have to make pop that seems to have more appeal then R&b

mjscarousal said:

musicjunky318 said:

I love Beyonce but she has got to be one of the worst singer-turned-actors ever. She has no on-screen presence, everything is monotone, can't deliver one single line with emotion. I remember going to see Obsessed. I was cringing all the way through. Mariah's even out-done her now because of Precious.

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She is a very very very bad actress. Its mind blowing Clint would even consider to do a movie or anyone would want to do a movie with her the only reason would be for publicity. Besides her voice, I just find her to be overrated in general.

Clint thinks he's slick. He just wants the opportunity to stare at her through his lens everyday.

Seriously though, he's lauded as a good director so, we'll see if he can pull something real out of her or not. I'm about as curious to see what he does with her as I am with Christopher Nolan making Ms. "Princess Diaries" herself, Catwoman. I don't see it Sometimes directors see things the average person don't see.

I know one thing; it's one hell of a break for Beyonce to work with someone of his stature. If he gets a decent performance out of her, she'll have even more scripts galore to consider. Personally I haven't been impressed with her work on screen yet but that's just how it goes. If she can put butts in seats at the theatre and get rave reviews from critics, it's a no-brainer.

Musicslave said:

mjscarousal said:

She is a very very very bad actress. Its mind blowing Clint would even consider to do a movie or anyone would want to do a movie with her the only reason would be for publicity. Besides her voice, I just find her to be overrated in general.

Clint thinks he's slick. He just wants the opportunity to stare at her through his lens everyday.

Seriously though, he's lauded as a good director so, we'll see if he can pull something real out of her or not. I'm about as curious to see what he does with her as I am with Christopher Nolan making Ms. "Princess Diaries" herself, Catwoman. I don't see it Sometimes directors see things the average person don't see.

I know one thing; it's one hell of a break for Beyonce to work with someone of his stature. If he gets a decent performance out of her, she'll have even more scripts galore to consider. Personally I haven't been impressed with her work on screen yet but that's just how it goes. If she can put butts in seats at the theatre and get rave reviews from critics, it's a no-brainer.

Thats what I am saying.

She is going to get scripts thrown at her because of who she is regardless of her acting skills or not. Todays generation of "hollywood" is lazy. Why should a director have to pull something out of a so called natural actress? Like seriously, some people are meant to JUST act while some are meant to JUST sing... period everyone is not good at everything. I dont think Clint sees something different in Beyonce. I think he just sees an opportunity to get big promotion, publicity and money because of who she is... Clint is old but he isnt senile nor dumb.

I am not interested at all in the remake and just like her last movies wont be seeing them. I am not a believer in pulling some talent out of someone who does not possess the talent at all.. Not going to waste my good hard earning money on some bullshit... People who are about the bullshit will go see it.. theyll go see whatever is shoved in their face... dumb fucks.

mjscarousal said:

Musicslave said:

Clint thinks he's slick. He just wants the opportunity to stare at her through his lens everyday.

Seriously though, he's lauded as a good director so, we'll see if he can pull something real out of her or not. I'm about as curious to see what he does with her as I am with Christopher Nolan making Ms. "Princess Diaries" herself, Catwoman. I don't see it Sometimes directors see things the average person don't see.

I know one thing; it's one hell of a break for Beyonce to work with someone of his stature. If he gets a decent performance out of her, she'll have even more scripts galore to consider. Personally I haven't been impressed with her work on screen yet but that's just how it goes. If she can put butts in seats at the theatre and get rave reviews from critics, it's a no-brainer.

Thats what I am saying.

She is going to get scripts thrown at her because of who she is regardless of her acting skills or not. Todays generation of "hollywood" is lazy. Why should a director have to pull something out of a so called natural actress? Like seriously, some people are meant to JUST act while some are meant to JUST sing... period everyone is not good at everything. I dont think Clint sees something different in Beyonce. I think he just sees an opportunity to get big promotion, publicity and money because of who she is... Clint is old but he isnt senile nor dumb.

I am not interested at all in the remake and just like her last movies wont be seeing them. I am not a believer in pulling some talent out of someone who does not possess the talent at all.. Not going to waste my good hard earning money on some bullshit... People who are about the bullshit will go see it.. theyll go see whatever is shoved in their face... dumb fucks.

Why don't you tell us how you really feel

I'm surprised that no one has called Beyonce out on the fact that she plays the same roles EVERYTIME she acts. She;s always playing a singer. What's the point of acting if you are playing something similar to yourself?

Carmen

Fighting Temptations

Pink Panther

Dream Girls

Caddilac Records

A Star is Born

Like come on...

Pressure said:

I'm surprised that no one has called Beyonce out on the fact that she plays the same roles EVERYTIME she acts. She;s always playing a singer. What's the point of acting if you are playing something similar to yourself?

Carmen

Fighting Temptations

Pink Panther

Dream Girls

Caddilac Records

A Star is Born

Like come on...

I was really disappointed in her role as Etta James in Cadillac Records.

Musicslave said:

mjscarousal said:

Thats what I am saying.

She is going to get scripts thrown at her because of who she is regardless of her acting skills or not. Todays generation of "hollywood" is lazy. Why should a director have to pull something out of a so called natural actress? Like seriously, some people are meant to JUST act while some are meant to JUST sing... period everyone is not good at everything. I dont think Clint sees something different in Beyonce. I think he just sees an opportunity to get big promotion, publicity and money because of who she is... Clint is old but he isnt senile nor dumb.

I am not interested at all in the remake and just like her last movies wont be seeing them. I am not a believer in pulling some talent out of someone who does not possess the talent at all.. Not going to waste my good hard earning money on some bullshit... People who are about the bullshit will go see it.. theyll go see whatever is shoved in their face... dumb fucks.

Why don't you tell us how you really feel

Pressure said:

musicjunky318 said:

Britney, Janet, Paula Abdul, Mya, and Jennifer Lopez were/are dancers. There's a difference between what they did and what the rest do. I don't put Aaliyah alongside them. She wasn't that strong.

If You listed Britney Spears as a "true dancer" then why not Aaliyah?

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Because she was much stronger than Aaliyah was?

musicjunky318 said:

Pressure said:

If You listed Britney Spears as a "true dancer" then why not Aaliyah?

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Because she was much stronger than Aaliyah was?

In terms of what?

Pressure said:

musicjunky318 said:

Because she was much stronger than Aaliyah was?

In terms of what?

Post Aaliyah's top three best performances and I bet Britney's dwarf them.

musicjunky318 said:

Pressure said:

In terms of what?

Post Aaliyah's top three best performances and I bet Britney's dwarf them.

The original arguement was not comparing Aaliyah to Brittany though it was comparing Aaliyah to Beyonce and compared to Beyonce Aaliyah IS a better dancer.

To be COMPLETELY honest Aaliyah nor Brittany dont hold a candle to Janet or Paula on the dance floor which is why it blows my mind how people bunch them together...

mjscarousal said:

musicjunky318 said:

Post Aaliyah's top three best performances and I bet Britney's dwarf them.

The original arguement was not comparing Aaliyah to Brittany though it was comparing Aaliyah to Beyonce and compared to Beyonce Aaliyah IS a better dancer.

To be COMPLETELY honest Aaliyah nor Brittany dont hold a candle to Janet or Paula on the dance floor which is why it blows my mind how people bunch them together...

Prime Britney was just as good. People forget how she used to own stages.

musicjunky318 said:

Pressure said:

In terms of what?

Post Aaliyah's top three best performances and I bet Britney's dwarf them.

When Aaliyah performed, she sung more than she danced.

When Britney performs, she lip syncs and dances all the way through.

But judging by their videos and dance breaks, Aaliyah shown a more natural ability, at least to me. Britney was a gymnast faking it as a dancer. Britney used to always look like she was counting her steps, and even sometimes she would look back at her backup dancers for quick reference. Not saying Britney was horrible, but she wasn't all that.

Pressure said:

musicjunky318 said:

Post Aaliyah's top three best performances and I bet Britney's dwarf them.

When Aaliyah performed, she sung more than she danced.

When Britney performs, she lip syncs and dances all the way through.

But judging by their videos and dance breaks, Aaliyah shown a more natural ability, at least to me. Britney was a gymnast faking it as a dancer. Britney used to always look like she was counting her steps, and even sometimes she would look back at her backup dancers for quick reference. Not saying Britney was horrible, but she wasn't all that.

Post Aaliyah's top three best performances and I bet Britney's dwarf them.

musicjunky318 said:

mjscarousal said:

The original arguement was not comparing Aaliyah to Brittany though it was comparing Aaliyah to Beyonce and compared to Beyonce Aaliyah IS a better dancer.

To be COMPLETELY honest Aaliyah nor Brittany dont hold a candle to Janet or Paula on the dance floor which is why it blows my mind how people bunch them together...

Prime Britney was just as good. People forget how she used to own stages.

Oh HELL NO. YOU ARE OUT OF YOUR FUCKIN MIND if you think Brittany is on the SAME level of dancing as JANET...

musicjunky318 said:

Pressure said:

When Aaliyah performed, she sung more than she danced.

When Britney performs, she lip syncs and dances all the way through.

But judging by their videos and dance breaks, Aaliyah shown a more natural ability, at least to me. Britney was a gymnast faking it as a dancer. Britney used to always look like she was counting her steps, and even sometimes she would look back at her backup dancers for quick reference. Not saying Britney was horrible, but she wasn't all that.

Post Aaliyah's top three best performances and I bet Britney's dwarf them.

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