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Thread started 02/01/12 8:04pm

smoothcriminal
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Did D'Angelo miss his time?

Honestly? I'm starting to believe that he missed his time. 12 years ago Voodoo came out, and people started realizing that this guy could change music. Brown Sugar was something new in a time where Biggie and Tupac were dominating radio. I really felt that D could've done something back then. Voodoo confirmed his potential as a heir to the greats.

But then he fell off the mark. Getting caught up with the popo multiple times. 12 years later and this guy is just coming back. Don't get me wrong, I love Charade, Another Life, and Sugah Daddy. I just kind of have this...feeling in the back of my mind that perhaps it's too late. That he missed his mark. If the follow up to Voodoo had come out in 2005 we would've been fine. But 2012 and just now this cat is coming back? Still with no sign of an album? I don't know man...I'm not sure what to think.

Thoughts?

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Reply #1 posted 02/01/12 8:18pm

scriptgirl

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There is no time limit on good music. D will be fine, because he is a very, very rare artist. He can still change music and he will do damn well when that album drops, if only in Europe-they love him there.

"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
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Reply #2 posted 02/01/12 8:20pm

CynicKill

I'm not so sure either. Of course I'll buy it, but I have the feeling that NO ONE ELSE is waiting for this album. Radio is in an atrocious state and I doubt any current DJ has even heard of D'Angelo. And if they did I can already hear them saying he's old hat (Prince's "Black Sweat").

The thing is in the interum(sp) of his sabattical VooDoo became even more of a classic, to the point where some reviewers had to tweak their initial reviews. Then he put on a tour that is so fondly remembered by anyone who saw it or was around at the time to feel the hype of this thing (He was a big deal) that he just became intensely thought of since! Everyone remembers those shows. Robert Christgua christened him the R&B Jesus!

Now he has this new tour that people insist isn't as good as VooDoo (What is? What has been in the past 10 years?)

So unless there really is a case of perfect timing with this release he just might have missed his opportunity. I'm ready though. I think it'll be great.

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Reply #3 posted 02/01/12 8:23pm

Timmy84

All D need to focus on is the ALBUM. There is urban AC that will possibly play him. Right now, his focus shouldn't be on singles...

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Reply #4 posted 02/01/12 8:26pm

smoothcriminal
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scriptgirl said:

There is no time limit on good music. D will be fine, because he is a very, very rare artist. He can still change music and he will do damn well when that album drops, if only in Europe-they love him there.

That may be true, but twelve years? Prince's best music was released within a decade - how do we know that we haven't missed D'Angelo's classic period?

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Reply #5 posted 02/01/12 8:27pm

alphastreet

What if he released a double album? He couldn't have stopped working on music

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Reply #6 posted 02/01/12 8:29pm

CynicKill

Timmy84 said:

All D need to focus on is the ALBUM. There is urban AC that will possibly play him. Right now, his focus shouldn't be on singles...

True. Singles didn't seem to be the focus on VooDoo.

There was the case of that damn video though...

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Reply #7 posted 02/01/12 8:30pm

CynicKill

smoothcriminal12 said:

scriptgirl said:

There is no time limit on good music. D will be fine, because he is a very, very rare artist. He can still change music and he will do damn well when that album drops, if only in Europe-they love him there.

That may be true, but twelve years? Prince's best music was released within a decade - how do we know that we haven't missed D'Angelo's classic period?

Well he hasn't exactly burned through material.

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Reply #8 posted 02/01/12 8:30pm

smoothcriminal
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CynicKill said:

Timmy84 said:

All D need to focus on is the ALBUM. There is urban AC that will possibly play him. Right now, his focus shouldn't be on singles...

True. Singles didn't seem to be the focus on VooDoo.

There was the case of that damn video though...

I heard that was the reason for his 12 year absence. If so then that is incredibly pathetic. lol

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Reply #9 posted 02/01/12 8:34pm

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I have faith it will be ok. D will be fine and I think he still has IT

"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
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Reply #10 posted 02/01/12 8:36pm

CynicKill

smoothcriminal12 said:

CynicKill said:

True. Singles didn't seem to be the focus on VooDoo.

There was the case of that damn video though...

I heard that was the reason for his 12 year absence. If so then that is incredibly pathetic. lol

I bet it was a culmination of things. The video I understand played a big part. He somehow felt that people were into him more for his body then his music. And he was trying to do something special that was being ignored. Plus I think the whole God of Neo Soul R&B Jesus this guy will be the savior of R&B thing probably got to him. And we all know fame is a funny thing. Everyone thinks they can handle it until it happens to them. I can only imagine how intense that spotlight (especially if you're acclaimed) can get.

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Reply #11 posted 02/01/12 8:43pm

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Yes. All he'll ever be now is an A/C artist, which isn't a bad thing. Had he continued to do music, he would still be relevant in the modern R&B and A/C world. I'm not that big on D, but from my understanding he had some personal issues that derailed his career. Sadly, his best days are behind him.

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Reply #12 posted 02/01/12 8:46pm

CynicKill

Terrib3Towel said:

Yes. All he'll ever be now is an A/C artist, which isn't a bad thing. Had he continued to do music, he would still be relevant in the modern R&B and A/C world. I'm not that big on D, but from my understanding he had some personal issues that derailed his career. Sadly, his best days are behind him.

I must admit that whole Soultronics era was fire!

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Reply #13 posted 02/01/12 8:48pm

smoothcriminal
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CynicKill said:

Terrib3Towel said:

Yes. All he'll ever be now is an A/C artist, which isn't a bad thing. Had he continued to do music, he would still be relevant in the modern R&B and A/C world. I'm not that big on D, but from my understanding he had some personal issues that derailed his career. Sadly, his best days are behind him.

I must admit that whole Soultronics era was fire!

The Soulquarians were also throwing it down then!

Like Water For Chocolate, Mama's Gun, Things Fall Apart, Voodoo, Electric Circus...

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Reply #14 posted 02/01/12 8:56pm

CynicKill

smoothcriminal12 said:

CynicKill said:

I must admit that whole Soultronics era was fire!

The Soulquarians were also throwing it down then!

Like Water For Chocolate, Mama's Gun, Things Fall Apart, Voodoo, Electric Circus...

Oh the days....

Then D spazzed out and Erykah got wierd and with the foundation defective the whole scene fell apart.

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Reply #15 posted 02/01/12 8:58pm

smoothcriminal
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CynicKill said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

The Soulquarians were also throwing it down then!

Like Water For Chocolate, Mama's Gun, Things Fall Apart, Voodoo, Electric Circus...

Oh the days....

Then D spazzed out and Erykah got wierd and with the foundation defective the whole scene fell apart.

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D'Angelo BEST do something this year.

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Reply #16 posted 02/01/12 9:05pm

babybugz

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Everyone I seen is only interested in his body being the same. It was a segment on the wendy williams show the other day about that . I felt kind of bad for him..

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Reply #17 posted 02/01/12 9:08pm

smoothcriminal
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babybugz said:

Everyone I seen is only interested in his body being the same. It was a segment on the wendy williams show the other day about that . I felt kind of bad for him..

I hate to say it, but if you're gonna do a video like that...

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Reply #18 posted 02/01/12 9:09pm

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smoothcriminal12 said:

babybugz said:

Everyone I seen is only interested in his body being the same. It was a segment on the wendy williams show the other day about that . I felt kind of bad for him..

I hate to say it, but if you're gonna do a video like that...

Exactly.

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Reply #19 posted 02/01/12 9:13pm

getxxxx

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And the debbie downers doubters continues again. Sade and her crew takes extended breaks so why cant others do this?
Nick Ashford was someone I greatly admired, had the honor of knowing, and was the real-life inspiration for Cowboy Curtis' hair. RIP Nick. - Pee Wee Herman
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Reply #20 posted 02/01/12 9:14pm

smoothcriminal
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getxxxx said:

debbie downers doubters

falloff

I'm ANYTHING but that.

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Reply #21 posted 02/01/12 9:20pm

CynicKill

Then again we have to realize that he probably didn't think much of it at the time. He probably just thought it'd be the perfect promotion for a sexy single.

What he didn't count on was that women would be so stupid, treating a concert like a strip show. He underestimated the intelligence of the general public he was trying to reach.

If he were more of a "professional" musician like Justin Timberlake or Beyonce this wouldn't even be an issue. They know their place. But he sorta got talked into it and just thought it was a goof at the time.

Now he's got to deal with gossip from Wendy and her ilk, someone who's never done anything artistic or seems uninterested in artistic endeavors.

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Reply #22 posted 02/01/12 9:21pm

CynicKill

getxxxx said:

And the debbie downers doubters continues again. Sade and her crew takes extended breaks so why cant others do this?

We're pretty fanatical here. LOL

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Reply #23 posted 02/01/12 10:50pm

Dren5

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smoothcriminal12 said:

Honestly? I'm starting to believe that he missed his time. 12 years ago Voodoo came out, and people started realizing that this guy could change music. Brown Sugar was something new in a time where Biggie and Tupac were dominating radio. I really felt that D could've done something back then. Voodoo confirmed his potential as a heir to the greats.

But then he fell off the mark. Getting caught up with the popo multiple times. 12 years later and this guy is just coming back. Don't get me wrong, I love Charade, Another Life, and Sugah Daddy. I just kind of have this...feeling in the back of my mind that perhaps it's too late. That he missed his mark. If the follow up to Voodoo had come out in 2005 we would've been fine. But 2012 and just now this cat is coming back? Still with no sign of an album? I don't know man...I'm not sure what to think.

Thoughts?

If you mean in the sense of mainstream, pop-type success, then sure that's possible, because we all know the general public has the attention span of a gnat.

I don't think that means he's necessarily too late period, though. If the music is good there's always going to be some people who want to hear more and will keep up with his work, even if the rest of the music buying public has moved on.

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Reply #24 posted 02/01/12 11:14pm

KCOOLMUZIQ

Its called divine intervention that stepped in. Nothing happens by accident. He is back when he is suppose 2 b......

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Reply #25 posted 02/01/12 11:15pm

Timmy84

I give you a hint he's not past it: Sade. Girl didn't release a record in ten years. All I'm saying if she did it and if he gets some real muscle behind the project, then there's hope for D'Angelo least album sales wise.

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Reply #26 posted 02/01/12 11:53pm

rialb

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I think to a degree he did miss his time. Even at the very slow rate of an album every five years the cat should be working on his fifth album by now. Twelve years between albums is positively Guns 'N Roses-esque!

I would not go as far as saying that I feel cheated but I can't help thinking about all of the music that he could have released. With D'Angelo there is an awful lot of unfulfilled potential.

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Reply #27 posted 02/02/12 12:14am

MattyJam

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Changing music? Nobody cares about D'angelo or even remembers him except a few thousand hardcore fans at the most.

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Reply #28 posted 02/02/12 12:18am

KCOOLMUZIQ

MattyJam said:

Changing music? Nobody cares about D'angelo or even remembers him except a few thousand hardcore fans at the most.

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Reply #29 posted 02/02/12 12:29am

neonlights

MattyJam said:

Changing music? Nobody cares about D'angelo or even remembers him except a few thousand hardcore fans at the most.

Exactly. His time passed long ago.

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