Justin does a short medley of his hits with Kylie joining him for a cover of Blondie's Rapture.

Kylie, sure it gets you exposure in the USA, but Justin Timberlake?!! LOL
[This message was edited Thu Feb 20 11:38:30 PST 2003 by MiaBocca]

MiaBocca said:

Where did you hear about Rapture? I just finished reading that they're going to do Neneh Cherry's "Buffalo Stance".

Kylie doing a rapping snippet of a Blondie song. What a special treat that duet was.

This all said man of the moment Justin Timberlake will probably prove the performance of the night (along with Coldplay) and could take out the embarassing Blue jokers one by one (or collectively) any day of the week.

Kylie outshone Justin! His "Rapture" singing was HILARIOUS. Ms. Dynamite and George Michael's non-appearnce was my fav performance.

MiaBocca said:

he's got more cred in the US than she'll ever dream of. the jury's still out here on whether or not she'll be a repeat one-hit-wonder.

AaronUnlimited said:

who cares!
in Australia she is loved,her albums sell like crazy in OZ & UK,she sells out more than half a dozen shows in each Aussie city.
her singles do huge success here & in the UK.
America isnt the only marketplace in the world...
when will people ever realise this?

Joshy84au said:

"who cares!"

going platinum in the UK *AND* Australia combined doesn't even qualify you as having a hit album in the US. the numbers needed to be successful in those countries are miniscule.

AaronUnlimited said:

Justin Timberlake has more credibility than Kylie Minogue?

And you're wrong- "Love At First Sight" was a hit as well.

Moonbeam said:

i thought it wouldn't take you long to find this thread

Kylie's cool ... and i've not listened to justin's music ...so no comment there

AaronUnlimited said:

The US will be missing out then. It doesn't have the best taste in music as a nation anyway. The fact that something as infectious as "Spinning Around," as moving as "Confide in Me" or as artsy as "Where the Wild Roses Grow" fell on deaf ears here just shows how idiotic American taste is as a whole.

AaronUnlimited said:

where did you get your information from, punk?

AaronUnlimited said:

Well the USA isn't exactly a landscape of taste where music is concerned - the segregated attitude towards music sucks - and there doesn't seem to be much mainstream support for dance/pop acts.

Kylie has been around since 1987, and constantly evolved as an act and as an artist - probably her only rival in those stakes is the Queen of re-invention, Madonna.

MiaBocca said:

her only rival? you mean her model.


but hey kids. sorry, but you haven't made it until you've made it in America.

look at the charts & the crap that is out in america.
i dont think being in the same company as those crap acts is exactly flattering.

why is success in the USA the be all & end all anyway?
i would think being loved & revered in your home country would be the most important thing.

Joshy84au said:

this from a guy from the country that gave us Air Supply, Kylie Minogue, Savage Garden, and Natalie Imbruglia




you'd think, but it's not. i'll say it again: you haven't made it until you've made it in America.

Apparently Justin nobbed Danni Minogue after the BritsAward party.

AaronUnlimited said:

The reason that is true, is not because the USA is a country of good taste or superior critical ability - It's because it is the single biggest English language market and anyone who cracks America is guaranteed big bucks. Deal with it.
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Kylie =
Justin =

MiaBocca said:

yes, that's exactly what i was saying. thank you.

people in markets outside the US have some sort of inferiority complex about their countries. "our country is just is important as yours" when it comes to music sales, when they obviously are not. after all, David Hasselhoff and Frank Stalone are pop stars in Germany

AaronUnlimited said:

So your saying countries other than the USA have an inferiority complex about music sales? I don't think that's an inferiority complex, it's just a case of population figures.

Germany is never gonna sell as many units as America due to a smaller population.

MiaBocca said:

no, i agree with that. the inferiority complex comes in when someone says that a platinum record in the UK or Australia is just as important as one in the US.

AaronUnlimited said:

Go to detention, Mister! Kylie IS credible.

AaronUnlimited said:

Okie, although I don't see how a platinum record in the USA is more important than one in the UK - other than the fact that the USA award presumably means more sales - which again is a factor of population.

As always sales figures have no baring to anyone other than the people who are paid.

A platinum album in the UK is 300,000 copies. This represents a higher ratio of the population in the UK than 1,000,000 does in the US, so it's a more "important" feat.

Ellie said:

as far as impact, sure. if you go platinum in the UK, you should feel important to the UK. but you shouldn't feel the UK is as important to you as the US if you have a US platinum album.

which would you rather sell? 300,000 copies of an album? or a million?

The USA is the most important market in the world thanks to its size (although i heard that the Japanese market is bigger). However as far as the musical taste of the americans are concerned well I would say that the american market is of a much lower quality than most of the european (and maybe the australian as well). I'm a big fan of R&B and hip-hop so I'm thankfull i can listen to the US charts because the look more and more like R&B/Hip Hop charts however:
a)the fact that the UK charts are moving much faster than the american gives them more credibility because in that way more musical styles and acts are getting known and promoted
b)It's almost impossible to chart in america if the song is not english. That's not the case with european markets. So the US is losing big time on great acts from around the world (alizee, vanessa paradis, panjabi mc, tarkan, mylene farmer, manu chao etc etc
c)experimental music is not popular in the USA unlike europe. In that sense new trends in music are popularised mainly in europe (bjork for example)
d)the fact that an artist doesn't make it in the states is irrelevant as far as his international sales are concerned. THere are many artists which are huge in every country around the world but the states (kylie, oasis, sugababes etc) and many who are huge in the states but nowhere else (dixie cheeks, faith hill etc)
e)the american charts are anyway manipulated thanks to the fact that airplay counts more than actual single sales (i[m not talking about the album charts)
Taking into acount all these one can claim that the markets of europe is more important than the US in terms of quality and size (the european market as a whole is bigger than the american and in a greaat extent it is a musical common market as most big hits are charting all across the continent. THe importance of the US is only due to the fact that it has the greatest music production of any country or region.