Release Fiona Apple's Fourth Album!

On November 23, 2011, an online article from a well known blogger quoted an exchange between Apple and Jon Brion during a show at the Largo Coronet in Los Angeles. When a member of the audience requested Apple to perform new material, the singer announced to the crowd, "I can't remember [how to play] any of my new songs because they've been done for a fucking year," to which Brion was quoted as replying, "[It's] not her fault!" Source Wikipedia.

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again? they want her to go back with another producer again? they dont hear a single or something?

I NEED A NEW FIONA ALBUM

she should go back with Andrew Slater, who produced the first record. Damn, was that good stuff.

rdhull said:

again? they want her to go back with another producer again? they dont hear a single or something?

Record company BS is all...

Timmy84 said:

The above EXACTLY.

In today's age, where the advent of technology allows for one to release an

album independently, there really is no need for a record label anymore.

I like Fiona Apple; the sonicscape of pop culture needs her talents in order

to buttress the stupidity of Beyonces, Lady Gagas, Katy Perrys and the like.

But if she wishes to release music, she oughta wise up and follow Louis CK's

business model: bypass the fat cats and do it yerself.

duccichucka said:

Timmy84 said:

The above EXACTLY.

In today's age, where the advent of technology allows for one to release an

album independently, there really is no need for a record label anymore.

I like Fiona Apple; the sonicscape of pop culture needs her talents in order

to buttress the stupidity of Beyonces, Lady Gagas, Katy Perrys and the like.

But if she wishes to release music, she oughta wise up and follow Louis CK's

business model: bypass the fat cats and do it yerself.

I'm guessing it's a similar situation to Van Hunt's Popular where the record label owns the recordings and refuses to give them back to her. (That was why Popular was never officially released, right?)

duccichucka said:

Timmy84 said:

The above EXACTLY.

In today's age, where the advent of technology allows for one to release an

album independently, there really is no need for a record label anymore.

I like Fiona Apple; the sonicscape of pop culture needs her talents in order

to buttress the stupidity of Beyonces, Lady Gagas, Katy Perrys and the like.

But if she wishes to release music, she oughta wise up and follow Louis CK's

business model: bypass the fat cats and do it yerself.

Yeah least have people get your album on your site or something. It's silly that artists know how they get ripped off from labels but act like they're weak to do anything about it. Sure the powers-that-be can fuck you up but that's where you fucked up yourself.

That girl needs to get dropped by her label and go independent.

sextonseven said:

duccichucka said:

The above EXACTLY.

In today's age, where the advent of technology allows for one to release an

album independently, there really is no need for a record label anymore.

I like Fiona Apple; the sonicscape of pop culture needs her talents in order

to buttress the stupidity of Beyonces, Lady Gagas, Katy Perrys and the like.

But if she wishes to release music, she oughta wise up and follow Louis CK's

business model: bypass the fat cats and do it yerself.

I'm guessing it's a similar situation to Van Hunt's Popular where the record label owns the recordings and refuses to give them back to her. (That was why Popular was never officially released, right?)

I'm not quite sure. Blue Note didn't know how to market Popular so they dropped him.

When they asked for their advance back Hunt was unwilling to assent to this

demand so they shelved the record (they owned the master's and I guess Hunt here

too was unwilling to pay for them).

You'd have to ask lastdecember about this fiasco, however. He spelled out the particulars

but this was probably three or four years ago.

Ummm... didn't her fans do this for her last album too? And she told them to calm the fuck down because there was no issue other than the fact that she wasnt' ready to put it out?

errant said:

Ummm... didn't her fans do this for her last album too? And she told them to calm the fuck down because there was no issue other than the fact that she wasnt' ready to put it out?

Yeah if I recall correctly...

and if they've been done for a year, shouldn't she have had plenty of time to memorize and practice them?

errant said:

and if they've been done for a year, shouldn't she have had plenty of time to memorize and practice them?

That's what kills me, she had it done for about a year and she claims the reason she don't know them because the label is holding it from her? How long has she been with her label? 17 years or something?

someone needs to tell her management this PR stunt didnt translate into 1 million copies last time, why would it work this time??

badujunkie said:

someone needs to tell her management this PR stunt didnt translate into 1 million copies last time, why would it work this time??

...If you seriously think Fiona is the 'publicity stunt' type, then you know nothing about her work.

Honestly she just has rabid-ass fans who heard about a new cd, thought her company shelved it, so they went buckwild to get it released.

As far as comments that she should just release it on her own - I'm assuming that the record company could come after her legally and ruin her if she did something like that. Truth is, her hands probably ARE tied, here.

I just hope it gets to see the light of day in a way that doesn't fuck her up in the process. I love her work and she's one of my favorites. Lyrically and vocally, she's a beast.

Dren5 said:

badujunkie said:

someone needs to tell her management this PR stunt didnt translate into 1 million copies last time, why would it work this time??

...If you seriously think Fiona is the 'publicity stunt' type, then you know nothing about her work.

Honestly she just has rabid-ass fans who heard about a new cd, thought her company shelved it, so they went buckwild to get it released.

As far as comments that she should just release it on her own - I'm assuming that the record company could come after her legally and ruin her if she did something like that. Truth is, her hands probably ARE tied, here.

I just hope it gets to see the light of day in a way that doesn't fuck her up in the process. I love her work and she's one of my favorites. Lyrically and vocally, she's a beast.

actually i know every single song and b-side

do you read english? i said her MANAGEMENT

badujunkie said:

Dren5 said:

...If you seriously think Fiona is the 'publicity stunt' type, then you know nothing about her work.

Honestly she just has rabid-ass fans who heard about a new cd, thought her company shelved it, so they went buckwild to get it released.

As far as comments that she should just release it on her own - I'm assuming that the record company could come after her legally and ruin her if she did something like that. Truth is, her hands probably ARE tied, here.

I just hope it gets to see the light of day in a way that doesn't fuck her up in the process. I love her work and she's one of my favorites. Lyrically and vocally, she's a beast.

actually i know every single song and b-side

do you read english? i said her MANAGEMENT

I read English fine. I'm just not very fluent in Bullshit.

I stand by what I said. Neither Fiona nor her management has ever - EVER - before in the past, pulled any publicity stunts. That's just not her 'bag'. At all.

And if you'd really listened to her work and read interviews she's done you wouldn't have to have other people come in and teach you this shit.

Just because you listened to a few tracks off of "Tidal", doesn't make you an expert.

Dren5 said:

badujunkie said:

actually i know every single song and b-side

do you read english? i said her MANAGEMENT

I read English fine. I'm just not very fluent in Bullshit.

I stand by what I said. Neither Fiona nor her management has ever - EVER - before in the past, pulled any publicity stunts. That's just not her 'bag'. At all.

And if you'd really listened to her work and read interviews she's done you wouldn't have to have other people come in and teach you this shit.

Just because you listened to a few tracks off of "Tidal", doesn't make you an expert.

Right. The "Free Fiona" campain for EM was totally organic and non-corporate in every way. No stunts pulled there.

Neither was her "Criminal" video featuring her in a teenage orgy meant to be a stunt to help push Tidal multiplatinum.

Neither was her acceptance speech about "this world" being "bullshit" (I guess she's fluent in bullshit) at the VMAs.

Neither was slamming Janeane Garofalo in Rolling Stone by re-writing "Sleep to Dream" about her calling her a 'bitch.'

Neither was calling Tori Amos the "poster girl for rape."

Neither was dating a prominent Hollywood director.

I love her, her music, her songwriting skills, but you betray your lack of knowledge of how the business works - all artists are famewhores to a certain degree or else they would all be happy working at Kmart during the day and playing in coffee shops by night. Sad that you think you know much at all...

badujunkie said:

Dren5 said:

I read English fine. I'm just not very fluent in Bullshit.

I stand by what I said. Neither Fiona nor her management has ever - EVER - before in the past, pulled any publicity stunts. That's just not her 'bag'. At all.

And if you'd really listened to her work and read interviews she's done you wouldn't have to have other people come in and teach you this shit.

Just because you listened to a few tracks off of "Tidal", doesn't make you an expert.

Right. The "Free Fiona" campain for EM was totally organic and non-corporate in every way. No stunts pulled there.

Neither was her "Criminal" video featuring her in a teenage orgy meant to be a stunt to help push Tidal multiplatinum.

Neither was her acceptance speech about "this world" being "bullshit" (I guess she's fluent in bullshit) at the VMAs.

Neither was slamming Janeane Garofalo in Rolling Stone by re-writing "Sleep to Dream" about her calling her a 'bitch.'

Neither was calling Tori Amos the "poster girl for rape."

Neither was dating a prominent Hollywood director.

I love her, her music, her songwriting skills, but you betray your lack of knowledge of how the business works - all artists are famewhores to a certain degree or else they would all be happy working at Kmart during the day and playing in coffee shops by night. Sad that you think you know much at all...

Oh my damn....

STOP THE PRESSES!

New Fiona Apple Music Imminent

"Coming in the next few weeks," says Epic Records chair L.A. Reid

By

Jenn Pelly

on January 23, 2012 at 11:04 p.m.

Source: Pitchfork Media

That's exciting, if it's true.

last album blew. first 2 are classic.

badujunkie said:

last album blew. first 2 are classic.

I disagree, I think she's gotten better with each album.

RKJCNE said:

badujunkie said:

last album blew. first 2 are classic.

I disagree, I think she's gotten better with each album.

im in the minority that thinks that when the pawn is still her finest moment i guess

Hell yeah!

RKJCNE said:

Hey. It was late. I swear I checked the thread first, too.

[Edited 1/25/12 6:51am]

badujunkie said:

Dren5 said:

I read English fine. I'm just not very fluent in Bullshit.

I stand by what I said. Neither Fiona nor her management has ever - EVER - before in the past, pulled any publicity stunts. That's just not her 'bag'. At all.

And if you'd really listened to her work and read interviews she's done you wouldn't have to have other people come in and teach you this shit.

Just because you listened to a few tracks off of "Tidal", doesn't make you an expert.

Right. The "Free Fiona" campain for EM was totally organic and non-corporate in every way. No stunts pulled there.

Neither was her "Criminal" video featuring her in a teenage orgy meant to be a stunt to help push Tidal multiplatinum.

Neither was her acceptance speech about "this world" being "bullshit" (I guess she's fluent in bullshit) at the VMAs.

Neither was slamming Janeane Garofalo in Rolling Stone by re-writing "Sleep to Dream" about her calling her a 'bitch.'

Neither was calling Tori Amos the "poster girl for rape."

Neither was dating a prominent Hollywood director.

I love her, her music, her songwriting skills, but you betray your lack of knowledge of how the business works - all artists are famewhores to a certain degree or else they would all be happy working at Kmart during the day and playing in coffee shops by night. Sad that you think you know much at all...

No, actually there weren't any stunts pulled with the Fiona campaign on her end, especially since...she had no fucking idea they were even doing it in the first place until long after the thing was underway and they'd successfully pushed the record company to release the disc. Go back and read some articles about the whole thing and the people who actually put it together. None of which were Fiona Apple or her management, or even actually knew Fiona. They were just fans.

The entire "Criminal" finished product came about when the director talked Fiona into disrobing on cam using flattery and a bunch of manipulative bullshit. You have to remember that Fiona was damned young when she started out. Young girls are impressionable and easily manipulated and she said later that she regretted she went along with it.

And maybe she does think the entertainment world is bullshit. Hell, I do too; so do lots of people. And again, she was young. Give a young, impulsive outspoken person who really has shit on their mindt, access to a microphone and yeah, they're liable to say exactly what they think in that moment, even if it shocks a lot of people and isn't to their (or your) liking. And she's entitled to her views. If you can't deal with it it's basically your fucking problem, not hers.

And Garofalo did a whole skit (which was malicious in nature) slagging off Fiona. Again - you have to remember too that Fiona was young and wasn't really used to handling press either and didn't know that commenting on it would only stir up more shit. Garofalo said fucked up things that hurt her, it came up during the course of the interview and Fiona shat on her for it. I don't blame her and would've done the same thing. That doesn't mean it was premeditated. And frankly since Garofalo was being an asshole toward her, she deserved any and all comments Fiona made about her. If you want respect you have to give it.

The 'poster girl for rape' comment was taken out of context - which, if you had two working brain cells, you would know the media does all the time, to try and exaggerate things and create drama and get people's attention in order to sell more copies. If you'd actually read the article in full you'd see that, but you've already shown that you're pretty good at running your mouth when you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

And...maybe she just liked the guy and he asked her out and she said yes. She didn't turn around and start appearing in a shitload of movies after that so I doubt she was screwing him to try and become a big star or get a role. People meet and hit it off all the time and it makes sense that...she bumps into someone who works in the same general field as her...and they become interested in one another. Do you get worked up into a lather like this when you hear about a doctor and a nurse going out? GTFOOHWTBS.

I know how showbusiness works. I know plenty of musicians do resort to publicity stunts and shock tactics (MJ; Lady Gaga's entire career). Having said that it's absolutely dimwitted of you to paint them all with the same brush. There's tons of artists known for their reticence and private natures, who genuinely don't want to be splashed all over every magazine. They sing, they go onstage and do their thing and then they go home and live their lives. If Fiona were an attention whore and the type that's desperate for fame she could've had more easily by going along with the pop trend that was going on back then, performing in revealing clothes and doing racy dance routines and stuff. She had the looks, she could've gone that route if she chose. But she didn't because she wasn't about that, it was always about music for her and that's it. Thing is, that she was very opinionated by nature and wasn't the type to mince words, which the media picked up on and used against her. Doesn't mean that this stuff was all calculated on her part, especially if you factor in just how young she was when most of the stuff you named off above, occurred. Everybody is impulsive at that age.

Really if anything all your post does is show how dimwitted you are and just how jaded you are. Maybe all your favorite artists will whore themselves out for press, that doesn't mean that everybody out there is like them. And the fact that you used as 'evidence', a bunch of random headlines and soundbites proves you aren't anything more than a very casual fan, because a serious fan wouldn't have to have all this shit explained to them because they'd have already read these interviews in-depth on their own and already know that all the stuff you rattled off above is bullshit.

You're a fucking moron. Next time you want to talk shit make sure you actually know something about the subject at hand otherwise you just come off looking like a jackass.