HuMpThAnG said:

Entertainer said:

musicjunky318 said:

Bionic didn't even top 300,000? My God...

Bionic was a flop of epic proprotions and sold even less WW and here whtiney is 30yrs deep in her career and her cd sold 2.5mil copies

haters won't admit that but she got receipts

whitney cd soldmore than mariah, janet, christina, britney, chris brown, mary j blige, kelly clarkson, monica, trey songz, r kelly, keri hilson, keysha cole i could go on on on

no way she broke and one step from homeless

Hell, she should have outsold them. It's because of her that they even have careers. And to still be around and even be mentioned in the middle of a list of snoozefest people like them just proves how dull she is. Anybody worth a damn has either retired or has got a good album out but it's not on the radio, you have to "search for it". Oh Lord I taste vomit in my throat everytime I say "you have to search for it".

The X Factor just fired Paula Abdul and Nicole from Pussycat Dolls.Whitney should just try to get that gig.That'll be money in the bank for her.

estelle81 said:

musicjunky318 said:

I think Christina's dwindling audience just illustrates Madonna's genius. She prides herself on being chameleon-like every time she wants to release an album but it comes across as contrived and phony as hell. She was bubblegum pop, then a white-soul singer, now she's singing over electronic beats. Who the hell do you want to be Floptina? The public is confused and your sales show it.

Yeah... except Christina is still able to bring in money...there's this little show called 'The Voice' that's not doing too shabby last I heard. What's Whitney been doing lately besides freaking out on planes? Soo sad to see where this amazing woman has ended up Whitney's not bringing in any REAL money for the lifestyle she likes to live and like many people know, she's never been a songwriter so she's not really getting much in the royalties department unfortunately.

I'll agree with you that Christina's constant changing image and sound has confused many people but her true fans know what's up and I for one can appreciate an artist who doesn't do the same sound album after album after album. Should she do a couple of albums that are the same genre of music before moving on to the next genre...absolutely but does it make her a bad artist...nope I don't believe it does but that's JMHO. I believe Burlesque had the title of highest opening musical film in that film category when it premiered so that's a feat even Madonna didn't hit with 'Evita'. Madonna has always been an extremely smart business woman and I believe that truly explains her 'chameleon-like' image changes through the years.

She's calculated and executed her image perfectly and that's why she'll always be the Queen of Pop...Britney, Beyonce, Lady Gaga, Rihanna don't have the level of 'smart' talent that Madonna has in her pinkie nail. Sure, Beyonce and Gaga have better voices and Britney and Rihanna have....well I'm still trying to figure out what they have to be honest but Madonna has always had those great business smarts to keep her in the game. The only female artist who has ever really been on Madonna's level (sometimes over her) is Ms. Janet Jackson...at least to me she is but that's just my At the end of the day, Christina still has one of the best voices in recent music history and not many of her peers can brag about that. Image is nothing, true talent is everything...just sayin

WTF u talking about! Freakin read the thread and stop making up shit!

Whitney's cd outsold both Christina's 'Bionic' an d'burlesque' by millions, get that millions.

Whitney's tour in 2010 brought in $40mil, get that $40mil, her show does not cost much to produce so she's bring home at least 35-40% of that.

She self manages herself along with her sister in law so she's not paying Azoff 10-15% like Christina and many other artists are doing

She's starring in and executive producing Sparkle movie and the soundtrack so I'm guessing she is gonna make more than Christina did for Burlesque

Right after that, she has Exhale 2 lined up and she's probably gonna do the soundtrack. That's a hell of a lot to do at 49yrs old from summer 2009-Jan 2012

Here she is and she looks fabulous for her age. Christina should take note no shade

[img:$uid]http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2012/news/120130/jordin-sparks-440.jpg[/img:$uid]

http://www.people.com/peo...18,00.html

Entertainer said:

estelle81 said:

Yeah... except Christina is still able to bring in money...there's this little show called 'The Voice' that's not doing too shabby last I heard. What's Whitney been doing lately besides freaking out on planes? Soo sad to see where this amazing woman has ended up Whitney's not bringing in any REAL money for the lifestyle she likes to live and like many people know, she's never been a songwriter so she's not really getting much in the royalties department unfortunately.

I'll agree with you that Christina's constant changing image and sound has confused many people but her true fans know what's up and I for one can appreciate an artist who doesn't do the same sound album after album after album. Should she do a couple of albums that are the same genre of music before moving on to the next genre...absolutely but does it make her a bad artist...nope I don't believe it does but that's JMHO. I believe Burlesque had the title of highest opening musical film in that film category when it premiered so that's a feat even Madonna didn't hit with 'Evita'. Madonna has always been an extremely smart business woman and I believe that truly explains her 'chameleon-like' image changes through the years.

She's calculated and executed her image perfectly and that's why she'll always be the Queen of Pop...Britney, Beyonce, Lady Gaga, Rihanna don't have the level of 'smart' talent that Madonna has in her pinkie nail. Sure, Beyonce and Gaga have better voices and Britney and Rihanna have....well I'm still trying to figure out what they have to be honest but Madonna has always had those great business smarts to keep her in the game. The only female artist who has ever really been on Madonna's level (sometimes over her) is Ms. Janet Jackson...at least to me she is but that's just my At the end of the day, Christina still has one of the best voices in recent music history and not many of her peers can brag about that. Image is nothing, true talent is everything...just sayin

WTF u talking about! Freakin read the thread and stop making up shit!

Whitney's cd outsold both Christina's 'Bionic' an d'burlesque' by millions, get that millions.

Whitney's tour in 2010 brought in $40mil, get that $40mil, her show does not cost much to produce so she's bring home at least 35-40% of that.

She self manages herself along with her sister in law so she's not paying Azoff 10-15% like Christina and many other artists are doing

She's starring in and executive producing Sparkle movie and the soundtrack so I'm guessing she is gonna make more than Christina did for Burlesque

Right after that, she has Exhale 2 lined up and she's probably gonna do the soundtrack. That's a hell of a lot to do at 49yrs old from summer 2009-Jan 2012

Here she is and she looks fabulous for her age. Christina should take note no shade

[img:$uid]http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2012/news/120130/jordin-sparks-440.jpg[/img:$uid]

http://www.people.com/peo...18,00.html

Ummm, I'm trying to figure out what the point in your little rant was to be totally honest with you. It's like all you read were those 4 little sentences and skipped the rest of the reply completely....you also bypassed the part where I stated that it's sad to see where this 'AMAZING woman has ended up'...her career is nowhere near what it once was and that's a fact. You higlighted a part of my post that has nothing to really do with record sales at all. The poster I replied to made a comment about how Christina is a flop and I stated otherwise...still trying to figure out how Christina ended up in this thread to begin with but it wasn't I who initially brought her into this topic so proper blame placed in the proper place would be appreciated thank you kindly. EVERYBODY knows that Whitney has never actually written any of her hit songs...that's a fact sweetpea; album liner notes don't lie. She did have a freak out or 'Diva moment' on a plane recently; that was a media headline not to long ago:

http://www.huffingtonpost...08958.html

My reply is 98% about Madonna (again trying to figure out how she got into this topic but ) so again what is your beef with me...I only even mention Whitney in that first few sentences and briefly at that.

Anyone who has ever been on an airplane, commercial or private, knows you have to fasten your seatbelt prior to takeoff? She's not new to flying so WTF was that all about? Diva moment or tweaking out on something I don't know but she complied in the end after unnecessary drama so life goes on.

The only legit MUSICAL Whitney has ever been in was 'Cinderella' with Brandy and it was never released to theaters. It was on ABC and premiered in 1997 to extremely high ratings and many EMMY nominations. 'Burlesque' was actually put into movie theaters and has made over $90 million dollars as of last March. 'Waiting to Exhale', 'The Bodyguard', and 'The Preacher's Wife' were not really musicals so again this is a pointless comparison and an even more pointless argument. Now if you had said 'Dreamgirls' or 'Evita' (like I had initially posted) than we'd have a legit musical film comparison to debate. Whitney's motion pictures just had AMAZING soundtracks but musicals they were not my dear. I never once compared the 'Burlesque' soundtrack to any of Whitney's motion picture soundtracks in my post so not understanding how you've managed to become all bent out of shape over a comparison that was never made but whateva

Whitney has been bringing in some money but it's not the amounts she was pulling before all the negatives entered her life. She is currently doing 'Sparkle' and has other film projects lined up that's true but nothing has been released yet so numbers can't really be compared in regards to the numbers 'Burlesque' has already brought in so there really shouldn't be any comparisons until 'Sparkle' has officially been released. I'm really hoping that Whitney succeeds in all her upcoming ventures because Whitney is the artist who truly made me fall in love with ballads and chose them over any other type of music. I was a die-hard Whitney fan and in denial about her drug addiction for years until she proved me wrong and broke my heart in the process.

Your argument with me is basically similar to the argument I had with the original poster...don't use the term 'flop' to describe or imply such a thing (which I never did if you re-read my post) to any celebrity who is still very much able to work and make money in the entertainment industry in some way, shape, or form . As much as I love Whitney, I have no problem stating that I will not support her if she's not truly clean and sober. I won't give my own sister money because she has a drug problem because I know where it's going to go and I'm not going to help her kill herself. I'll help her when she helps herself by regaining control over her life and kicking the drugs out of it.

All those numbers are all fine and dandy but high record sales, hit tours, and box office successes don't blind me to the fact that she's still very much a recovering addict who has not really conquered her demons...at least I don't think she has. A few years back, Courtney Love said she was clean and sober on Pamela Anderson's Roast but a week later she drug tested positive and her actions on that show could have told anyone the test really wasn't needed. That plane incident with Whitney happened in October of last year. Do I believe she was high when she refused to fasten her seatbelt prior to take off - no; do I think she was totally sober - no; but I'm not the one who reads the results of any drug tests she's taking so I can't confirm or deny if she's truly clean and sober and neither can any of her fans. I'm sorry but as much as I love this women; I will not support her drug habit.

I'd hate to see what would happen if a Mariah/Whitney comparison went down...that would be quite the debate for you right there. Now that would be one hellava debate.

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dayum Estelle! You wrote an entire essay...lol

estelle81 said:

I'd hate to see what would happen if a Mariah/Whitney comparison went down...that would be quite the debate for you right there. Now that would be one hellava debate.

[Edited 2/2/12 14:39pm]

Please! A Mimi vs. Nippy thread would be opening up a Pandora's box! That thread could last for months and would be very vicious and ugly. I wonder who's gonna start it?

How are you still saying Whitney is not bringing in money, didn't my ass just post her 2010 tour receipts? Didn't she just finish a movie, which she is executive producer of. Bobby, said in an interview a few years ago, that she makes 150k a month just off her past movies/music.

estelle81 said:

Entertainer said:

WTF u talking about! Freakin read the thread and stop making up shit!

Whitney's cd outsold both Christina's 'Bionic' an d'burlesque' by millions, get that millions.

Whitney's tour in 2010 brought in $40mil, get that $40mil, her show does not cost much to produce so she's bring home at least 35-40% of that.

She self manages herself along with her sister in law so she's not paying Azoff 10-15% like Christina and many other artists are doing

She's starring in and executive producing Sparkle movie and the soundtrack so I'm guessing she is gonna make more than Christina did for Burlesque

Right after that, she has Exhale 2 lined up and she's probably gonna do the soundtrack. That's a hell of a lot to do at 49yrs old from summer 2009-Jan 2012

Here she is and she looks fabulous for her age. Christina should take note no shade

[img:$uid]http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2012/news/120130/jordin-sparks-440.jpg[/img:$uid]

http://www.people.com/peo...18,00.html

Ummm, I'm trying to figure out what the point in your little rant was to be totally honest with you. It's like all you read were those 4 little sentences and skipped the rest of the reply completely....you also bypassed the part where I stated that it's sad to see where this 'AMAZING woman has ended up'...her career is nowhere near what it once was and that's a fact. You higlighted a part of my post that has nothing to really do with record sales at all. The poster I replied to made a comment about how Christina is a flop and I stated otherwise...still trying to figure out how Christina ended up in this thread to begin with but it wasn't I who initially brought her into this topic so proper blame placed in the proper place would be appreciated thank you kindly. EVERYBODY knows that Whitney has never actually written any of her hit songs...that's a fact sweetpea; album liner notes don't lie. She did have a freak out or 'Diva moment' on a plane recently; that was a media headline not to long ago:

http://www.huffingtonpost...08958.html

My reply is 98% about Madonna (again trying to figure out how she got into this topic but ) so again what is your beef with me...I only even mention Whitney in that first few sentences and briefly at that.

Anyone who has ever been on an airplane, commercial or private, knows you have to fasten your seatbelt prior to takeoff? She's not new to flying so WTF was that all about? Diva moment or tweaking out on something I don't know but she complied in the end after unnecessary drama so life goes on.

The only legit MUSICAL Whitney has ever been in was 'Cinderella' with Brandy and it was never released to theaters. It was on ABC and premiered in 1997 to extremely high ratings and many EMMY nominations. 'Burlesque' was actually put into movie theaters and has made over $90 million dollars as of last March. 'Waiting to Exhale', 'The Bodyguard', and 'The Preacher's Wife' were not really musicals so again this is a pointless comparison and an even more pointless argument. Now if you had said 'Dreamgirls' or 'Evita' (like I had initially posted) than we'd have a legit musical film comparison to debate. Whitney's motion pictures just had AMAZING soundtracks but musicals they were not my dear. I never once compared the 'Burlesque' soundtrack to any of Whitney's motion picture soundtracks in my post so not understanding how you've managed to become all bent out of shape over a comparison that was never made but whateva

Whitney has been bringing in some money but it's not the amounts she was pulling before all the negatives entered her life. She is currently doing 'Sparkle' and has other film projects lined up that's true but nothing has been released yet so numbers can't really be compared in regards to the numbers 'Burlesque' has already brought in so there really shouldn't be any comparisons until 'Sparkle' has officially been released. I'm really hoping that Whitney succeeds in all her upcoming ventures because Whitney is the artist who truly made me fall in love with ballads and chose them over any other type of music. I was a die-hard Whitney fan and in denial about her drug addiction for years until she proved me wrong and broke my heart in the process.

Your argument with me is basically similar to the argument I had with the original poster...don't use the term 'flop' to describe or imply such a thing (which I never did if you re-read my post) to any celebrity who is still very much able to work and make money in the entertainment industry in some way, shape, or form . As much as I love Whitney, I have no problem stating that I will not support her if she's not truly clean and sober. I won't give my own sister money because she has a drug problem because I know where it's going to go and I'm not going to help her kill herself. I'll help her when she helps herself by regaining control over her life and kicking the drugs out of it.

All those numbers are all fine and dandy but high record sales, hit tours, and box office successes don't blind me to the fact that she's still very much a recovering addict who has not really conquered her demons...at least I don't think she has. A few years back, Courtney Love said she was clean and sober on Pamela Anderson's Roast but a week later she drug tested positive and her actions on that show could have told anyone the test really wasn't needed. That plane incident with Whitney happened in October of last year. Do I believe she was high when she refused to fasten her seatbelt prior to take off - no; do I think she was totally sober - no; but I'm not the one who reads the results of any drug tests she's taking so I can't confirm or deny if she's truly clean and sober and neither can any of her fans. I'm sorry but as much as I love this women; I will not support her drug habit.

I'd hate to see what would happen if a Mariah/Whitney comparison went down...that would be quite the debate for you right there. Now that would be one hellava debate.

[Edited 2/2/12 14:39pm]

50k lines of bullshit does not negate the erroneous statement you made which was that Christina was still making money and actively doing projects by being on the Voice and that Whitney wasn't doing anything execpt freaking out on planes.

My response was to show you that she was being extremely busy

After her tour, she executived produced Sparkle, starred in it and is currently working with R Kelly, Claude Kelly and as we speak Harvey Mason Jr on the soundtrack. Exhale 2 is right around the corner.

I don't care about all that bull you just wrote because it has nothing to do with the erroneous statement you made. If you don't think she is currently clean, then don't support her, who cares but don't make up stuff that she is n't doing anything. That's bull!

All the reports about her on Delta said she was not drunk or high but exhausted. There were no claims, pictures, tweets or reports otherwise. She flew to Detroit and resumed filming.

I don't care how much money she bringing in, the point is she ain't broke or near homeless or begging folks for $100s!

Whitney's tour which wasn't received well still made her bank. Someone posted this link, click it if you dare

http://www.pollstarpro.co...tTours.pdf

says she grossed $36.3mil and her tour was the #35 top grossing worldwide tour that year. I'd say that she netted about $14mil and about $1mil from tshirts and stuff sold

I'm guessing she made about $20mil just from her tour and cd from 2009 to 2010 where do you think $20mil went to in one year. Plus she did a private show in Europe in 2010, 2 shows in Moscow that isn't factored in cuz they were done in Dec 2009 where she grossed around $8mil, and an appearance which she was most likely compensated summer of 2011 for Prince Bruneil birthday party. Broke my left foot! Her lifestyle is very, very simple! She does not floss at all!

Haters stay on their job but can't produce receitps. Well here is her receipt!

Here she is now in Beverly Hills last night out to dinner wiht her family

They were spotted stepping out for a bite to eat with their daughter Bobbi Kristina.

[Edited 2/2/12 20:28pm]

For all the mess she's been through, she still looks great and that is san makeup, just lipstick! Whispers is that she will be attending Clive Davis' Pre-Grammy party!!

HarveyMasonJr one of the producers for Sparkle soundtrack just tweeted a pic of Whitney in the studio with him now working on Sparkle soundtrack again. That is twice she has been in the studio with him this week to record. She's already recorded 2 gospel songs with him for the movie in Oct.

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still talking mess about not doing much huh! BTW, she looks great.

Harvey Mason, Jr.@HarveyMasonjr

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@itsRealJoker_ not sure how many tracks. Sorrypic.twitter.com/FYqGfvd8

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kitbradley said:

estelle81 said:

I'd hate to see what would happen if a Mariah/Whitney comparison went down...that would be quite the debate for you right there. Now that would be one hellava debate.

Please! A Mimi vs. Nippy thread would be opening up a Pandora's box! That thread could last for months and would be very vicious and ugly. I wonder who's gonna start it?

SoulAlive said:

dayum Estelle! You wrote an entire essay...lol

Received an essay so had to return an essay...sometimes a sentence just won't do.

Entertainer said:

estelle81 said:

Ummm, I'm trying to figure out what the point in your little rant was to be totally honest with you. It's like all you read were those 4 little sentences and skipped the rest of the reply completely....you also bypassed the part where I stated that it's sad to see where this 'AMAZING woman has ended up'...her career is nowhere near what it once was and that's a fact. You higlighted a part of my post that has nothing to really do with record sales at all. The poster I replied to made a comment about how Christina is a flop and I stated otherwise...still trying to figure out how Christina ended up in this thread to begin with but it wasn't I who initially brought her into this topic so proper blame placed in the proper place would be appreciated thank you kindly. EVERYBODY knows that Whitney has never actually written any of her hit songs...that's a fact sweetpea; album liner notes don't lie. She did have a freak out or 'Diva moment' on a plane recently; that was a media headline not to long ago:

http://www.huffingtonpost...08958.html

My reply is 98% about Madonna (again trying to figure out how she got into this topic but ) so again what is your beef with me...I only even mention Whitney in that first few sentences and briefly at that.

Anyone who has ever been on an airplane, commercial or private, knows you have to fasten your seatbelt prior to takeoff? She's not new to flying so WTF was that all about? Diva moment or tweaking out on something I don't know but she complied in the end after unnecessary drama so life goes on.

The only legit MUSICAL Whitney has ever been in was 'Cinderella' with Brandy and it was never released to theaters. It was on ABC and premiered in 1997 to extremely high ratings and many EMMY nominations. 'Burlesque' was actually put into movie theaters and has made over $90 million dollars as of last March. 'Waiting to Exhale', 'The Bodyguard', and 'The Preacher's Wife' were not really musicals so again this is a pointless comparison and an even more pointless argument. Now if you had said 'Dreamgirls' or 'Evita' (like I had initially posted) than we'd have a legit musical film comparison to debate. Whitney's motion pictures just had AMAZING soundtracks but musicals they were not my dear. I never once compared the 'Burlesque' soundtrack to any of Whitney's motion picture soundtracks in my post so not understanding how you've managed to become all bent out of shape over a comparison that was never made but whateva

Whitney has been bringing in some money but it's not the amounts she was pulling before all the negatives entered her life. She is currently doing 'Sparkle' and has other film projects lined up that's true but nothing has been released yet so numbers can't really be compared in regards to the numbers 'Burlesque' has already brought in so there really shouldn't be any comparisons until 'Sparkle' has officially been released. I'm really hoping that Whitney succeeds in all her upcoming ventures because Whitney is the artist who truly made me fall in love with ballads and chose them over any other type of music. I was a die-hard Whitney fan and in denial about her drug addiction for years until she proved me wrong and broke my heart in the process.

Your argument with me is basically similar to the argument I had with the original poster...don't use the term 'flop' to describe or imply such a thing (which I never did if you re-read my post) to any celebrity who is still very much able to work and make money in the entertainment industry in some way, shape, or form . As much as I love Whitney, I have no problem stating that I will not support her if she's not truly clean and sober. I won't give my own sister money because she has a drug problem because I know where it's going to go and I'm not going to help her kill herself. I'll help her when she helps herself by regaining control over her life and kicking the drugs out of it.

All those numbers are all fine and dandy but high record sales, hit tours, and box office successes don't blind me to the fact that she's still very much a recovering addict who has not really conquered her demons...at least I don't think she has. A few years back, Courtney Love said she was clean and sober on Pamela Anderson's Roast but a week later she drug tested positive and her actions on that show could have told anyone the test really wasn't needed. That plane incident with Whitney happened in October of last year. Do I believe she was high when she refused to fasten her seatbelt prior to take off - no; do I think she was totally sober - no; but I'm not the one who reads the results of any drug tests she's taking so I can't confirm or deny if she's truly clean and sober and neither can any of her fans. I'm sorry but as much as I love this women; I will not support her drug habit.

I'd hate to see what would happen if a Mariah/Whitney comparison went down...that would be quite the debate for you right there. Now that would be one hellava debate.

[Edited 2/2/12 14:39pm]

50k lines of bullshit does not negate the erroneous statement you made which was that Christina was still making money and actively doing projects by being on the Voice and that Whitney wasn't doing anything execpt freaking out on planes.

My response was to show you that she was being extremely busy

After her tour, she executived produced Sparkle, starred in it and is currently working with R Kelly, Claude Kelly and as we speak Harvey Mason Jr on the soundtrack. Exhale 2 is right around the corner.

I don't care about all that bull you just wrote because it has nothing to do with the erroneous statement you made. If you don't think she is currently clean, then don't support her, who cares but don't make up stuff that she is n't doing anything. That's bull!

All the reports about her on Delta said she was not drunk or high but exhausted. There were no claims, pictures, tweets or reports otherwise. She flew to Detroit and resumed filming.

I don't care how much money she bringing in, the point is she ain't broke or near homeless or begging folks for $100s!

Whitney's tour which wasn't received well still made her bank. Someone posted this link, click it if you dare

http://www.pollstarpro.co...tTours.pdf

says she grossed $36.3mil and her tour was the #35 top grossing worldwide tour that year. I'd say that she netted about $14mil and about $1mil from tshirts and stuff sold

I'm guessing she made about $20mil just from her tour and cd from 2009 to 2010 where do you think $20mil went to in one year. Plus she did a private show in Europe in 2010, 2 shows in Moscow that isn't factored in cuz they were done in Dec 2009 where she grossed around $8mil, and an appearance which she was most likely compensated summer of 2011 for Prince Bruneil birthday party. Broke my left foot! Her lifestyle is very, very simple! She does not floss at all!

Haters stay on their job but can't produce receitps. Well here is her receipt!

Here she is now in Beverly Hills last night out to dinner wiht her family

They were spotted stepping out for a bite to eat with their daughter Bobbi Kristina.

[Edited 2/2/12 20:28pm]

I definitely don't believe she's homeless and borrowing money....but I don't think her finances are where they once were. I've never just defined 'broke' to only mean penniless and/or homeless. I often define it to mean that you can't support the lifestyle you are accustomed to any longer due to a substantial decrease in finances. She's making money obviously, but she's not bringing in the money she once did before all the negatives entered her life...many of which the media like to highlight over the positives she is doing at the same time. That is where my 'erronous statement' came from. I honestly had idea she was working on any legit projects until reading this thread because that was the only story I'd seen on her until now. I have no problem apologizing if you took my statement to be a malicious jab at Whitney because of my lack of research into her current business ventures...my apologies. I'm hoping that she makes an amazing comeback (have been for quite some time) and I've never stopped believing that she is one of the most beautiful women in the entertainment industry even during the bad times. I may have pointed out a negative but I never discredited her achievements and talents which is how you made it seem based off of that one point that was not untrue at all...that weird incident did happen. Thanks for informing me that Whitney is back on track and focused...that's awesome and exciting news indeed. Here's to her continuing in a positive direction.

estelle81 said:

Entertainer said:

50k lines of bullshit does not negate the erroneous statement you made which was that Christina was still making money and actively doing projects by being on the Voice and that Whitney wasn't doing anything execpt freaking out on planes.

My response was to show you that she was being extremely busy

After her tour, she executived produced Sparkle, starred in it and is currently working with R Kelly, Claude Kelly and as we speak Harvey Mason Jr on the soundtrack. Exhale 2 is right around the corner.

I don't care about all that bull you just wrote because it has nothing to do with the erroneous statement you made. If you don't think she is currently clean, then don't support her, who cares but don't make up stuff that she is n't doing anything. That's bull!

All the reports about her on Delta said she was not drunk or high but exhausted. There were no claims, pictures, tweets or reports otherwise. She flew to Detroit and resumed filming.

I don't care how much money she bringing in, the point is she ain't broke or near homeless or begging folks for $100s!

Whitney's tour which wasn't received well still made her bank. Someone posted this link, click it if you dare

http://www.pollstarpro.co...tTours.pdf

says she grossed $36.3mil and her tour was the #35 top grossing worldwide tour that year. I'd say that she netted about $14mil and about $1mil from tshirts and stuff sold

I'm guessing she made about $20mil just from her tour and cd from 2009 to 2010 where do you think $20mil went to in one year. Plus she did a private show in Europe in 2010, 2 shows in Moscow that isn't factored in cuz they were done in Dec 2009 where she grossed around $8mil, and an appearance which she was most likely compensated summer of 2011 for Prince Bruneil birthday party. Broke my left foot! Her lifestyle is very, very simple! She does not floss at all!

Haters stay on their job but can't produce receitps. Well here is her receipt!

Here she is now in Beverly Hills last night out to dinner wiht her family

They were spotted stepping out for a bite to eat with their daughter Bobbi Kristina.

[Edited 2/2/12 20:28pm]

I definitely don't believe she's homeless and borrowing money....but I don't think her finances are where they once were. I've never just defined 'broke' to only mean penniless and/or homeless. I often define it to mean that you can't support the lifestyle you are accustomed to any longer due to a substantial decrease in finances. She's making money obviously, but she's not bringing in the money she once did before all the negatives entered her life...many of which the media like to highlight over the positives she is doing at the same time. That is where my 'erronous statement' came from. I honestly had idea she was working on any legit projects until reading this thread because that was the only story I'd seen on her until now. I have no problem apologizing if you took my statement to be a malicious jab at Whitney because of my lack of research into her current business ventures...my apologies. I'm hoping that she makes an amazing comeback (have been for quite some time) and I've never stopped believing that she is one of the most beautiful women in the entertainment industry even during the bad times. I may have pointed out a negative but I never discredited her achievements and talents which is how you made it seem based off of that one point that was not untrue at all...that weird incident did happen. Thanks for informing me that Whitney is back on track and focused...that's awesome and exciting news indeed. Here's to her continuing in a positive direction.

Wow, I've never seen someone do almost a 360 on the org when presented with accurate info that dispels what they were thinking. That's impressive! You're a stand up person,not many would have the guts or courage to write what you did.

Yes, here's to hoping continued health and success for Nippy. I thin it's right around the corner for her.

Adorecream said:

What a tragedy, atoothless old crack ho she is now and 20 years ago the most famous singer around, non stop number ones, an astounding voice and the best songs ever made. This is why some people can not handle fame, and unfortunately balck artists handle it less well than anyone else. (I just watched the Frankie Lymon story). Look at all the talents who died broke, or near broke or worn out prematurely before their time. Frankie Lymon, Marvin Gaye, Jackie Wilson, Paul Williams (Temptations), Florence Ballad, David Ruffin to name a few and even Michael (He was apparently nearly broke when he died and was doing the 50 shows for some moolah).

Whitney Houston's downfall is a tragedy we can all learn from and it should serve to alert people to the dangers of drugs. I honestly see her dying before her 55th birthday and possibly even her 50th, she is sad.

Boy was I on the money with this one. Still a very pyrrhic victory. RIP Whitney

Adorecream said:

Adorecream said:

What a tragedy, atoothless old crack ho she is now and 20 years ago the most famous singer around, non stop number ones, an astounding voice and the best songs ever made. This is why some people can not handle fame, and unfortunately balck artists handle it less well than anyone else. (I just watched the Frankie Lymon story). Look at all the talents who died broke, or near broke or worn out prematurely before their time. Frankie Lymon, Marvin Gaye, Jackie Wilson, Paul Williams (Temptations), Florence Ballad, David Ruffin to name a few and even Michael (He was apparently nearly broke when he died and was doing the 50 shows for some moolah).

Whitney Houston's downfall is a tragedy we can all learn from and it should serve to alert people to the dangers of drugs. I honestly see her dying before her 55th birthday and possibly even her 50th, she is sad.

Boy was I on the money with this one. Still a very pyrrhic victory. RIP Whitney

The fact that you called her a toothless old crack ho...

ViintageJunkiie said:

Adorecream said:

Boy was I on the money with this one. Still a very pyrrhic victory. RIP Whitney

The fact that you called her a toothless old crack ho...

I wasn't the only one, there was a lot of venom here before my comments. She dies and all of a sudden shes a tragic victim. We all run with the foxes and hunt with the hounds here.