meh i dotn know how many reports i have heard this go out to...somebody always broke

rdhull said:

TD3 said:

She did invest, in crack.

No receipts to prove it.

I just walked all up into that one. The punch line that's never going away

if that piece of bullshit journalism was true the real deal is would u be willing 2 help her in jesus name in anyway or bash her 4 every stone u could?? yall people make my asshole sick all u do is trash people and find a way 2 bash them unless its wendy or lisa who yall claim made prince but couldnt do a damn thang for their own solo career hmmmm

I was just talking to a friend of mine about this. It's amazing. Madonna, the one with the least amount of raw talent compared to her contemporaries, the one that was originally written off as a one-hit wonder ends up with the most green and the greatest career. How? By being smart as hell.

It's the choices we make people. It's the choices we make.

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Touring is one way to generate alot of income but sadly,Whitney won't even be able to do that.Her last tour was a disaster,showing her fans how much she has destroyed her once-mighty voice.

Ehhh I agree with that to an extent but most major stars have ups and downs. Madonna was taking a back seat to Whitney, Janet and Mariah during her "Erotica" "Bedtime Stories" and "Something to Remember" years. She rebounded and was a competitior during "Ray of Light" Janet was on top when "All For You" came out and the next year Whitney, Mariah bombed with "Charmbracelet", "Just Whitney" and then the next year Madonna's "AMerican Life" sold the least out of the bunch. Mariah was on top during "Emancipation of Mimi" followed closely by Madonna "Confessions". And despite the media attack Whitney's "I Look to You" wiped the floor in sales with "Discipline", "Memoirs" and sold more than Hard Candy. I think Whitney will be giving her peers a run for their money during the "Sparkle" era and Forest and Terry both tweeted that the Waiting to Exhale 2 script was greenlighted two weeks ago and i'm sure that will be a modest success. I love all four of them Janet, Whitney, Mariah and Madonna but they all take turns running things between themselves.

kitbradley said:

All jokes aside, a lot of these Entertainers aren't as rich as we think they are. People tend to think they are pocketing all of these millions of revenue dollars from music and film project but what we often fail to realize is they often have several business/financial managers and large staffs that they have to pay. And for a singer, it's even worse because they have to pay musicians, backgroud singers, road/tour managers, tour buses, hotel stays, etc. And they also have to reimburse the label for certain expenses. So, no, alot of these singers are not all that well off. I believe filthy rich singers are more the exceptional than the norm. That's where songwriting and very highly successful tours come into play. That's where the serious bread is.

So true,and that's why so many of these artists have other business ventures besides just making music.They have their own perfumes,their own clothing brands,etc.Madonna even opened up her own line of gyms.

kenkamken said:

She probably single handedly snorted/smoked enough to fund a cartel war. She should have run the other way when she first saw that Bobby Brown. Maybe she was the one who corrupted him, but they were definitely toxic together.

I agree.

jsluva said:

Ehhh I agree with that to an extent but most major stars have ups and downs. Madonna was taking a back seat to Whitney, Janet and Mariah during her "Erotica" "Bedtime Stories" and "Something to Remember" years. She rebounded and was a competitior during "Ray of Light" Janet was on top when "All For You" came out and the next year Whitney, Mariah bombed with "Charmbracelet", "Just Whitney" and then the next year Madonna's "AMerican Life" sold the least out of the bunch. Mariah was on top during "Emancipation of Mimi" followed closely by Madonna "Confessions". And despite the media attack Whitney's "I Look to You" wiped the floor in sales with "Discipline", "Memoirs" and sold more than Hard Candy. I think Whitney will be giving her peers a run for their money during the "Sparkle" era and Forest and Terry both tweeted that the Waiting to Exhale 2 script was greenlighted two weeks ago and i'm sure that will be a modest success. I love all four of them Janet, Whitney, Mariah and Madonna but they all take turns running things between themselves.

M, JJ, and MC all have much more songwriting credit, and M especially makes such a killing off touring...Whitney never established herself properly as a songwriter with publishing and writing royalties the way the others did, imo

SoulAlive said:

Touring is one way to generate alot of income but sadly,Whitney won't even be able to do that.Her last tour was a disaster,showing her fans how much she has destroyed her once-mighty voice.

She got paid in Europe, though! She still got PAID...

Im taking this one with a grain of salt. People forget I Look to You did pretty well stateside...plus she's in 2 of the biggest blockbusters of the 90s that are always on cable...plus she is on the highest selling soundtrack of all time...I kind of doubt she's THAT broke. Bobby, yes...Adina Howard, yes...T Boz, yes...Whitney? nah

badujunkie said:

jsluva said:

Ehhh I agree with that to an extent but most major stars have ups and downs. Madonna was taking a back seat to Whitney, Janet and Mariah during her "Erotica" "Bedtime Stories" and "Something to Remember" years. She rebounded and was a competitior during "Ray of Light" Janet was on top when "All For You" came out and the next year Whitney, Mariah bombed with "Charmbracelet", "Just Whitney" and then the next year Madonna's "AMerican Life" sold the least out of the bunch. Mariah was on top during "Emancipation of Mimi" followed closely by Madonna "Confessions". And despite the media attack Whitney's "I Look to You" wiped the floor in sales with "Discipline", "Memoirs" and sold more than Hard Candy. I think Whitney will be giving her peers a run for their money during the "Sparkle" era and Forest and Terry both tweeted that the Waiting to Exhale 2 script was greenlighted two weeks ago and i'm sure that will be a modest success. I love all four of them Janet, Whitney, Mariah and Madonna but they all take turns running things between themselves.

M, JJ, and MC all have much more songwriting credit, and M especially makes such a killing off touring...Whitney never established herself properly as a songwriter with publishing and writing royalties the way the others did, imo

Has Whitney ever written any of her songs? I know alot of her biggest hits are actually remakes.

musicjunky318 said:

I was just talking to a friend of mine about this. It's amazing. Madonna, the one with the least amount of raw talent compared to her contemporaries, the one that was originally written off as a one-hit wonder ends up with the most green and the greatest career. How? By being smart as hell.It's the choices we make people. It's the choices we make.

I've always said that Madonna is the smartest person in pop music.She should write a book on maintaining longevity in the music business.

badujunkie said:

SoulAlive said:

Touring is one way to generate alot of income but sadly,Whitney won't even be able to do that.Her last tour was a disaster,showing her fans how much she has destroyed her once-mighty voice.

She got paid in Europe, though! She still got PAID...

Im taking this one with a grain of salt. People forget I Look to You did pretty well stateside...plus she's in 2 of the biggest blockbusters of the 90s that are always on cable...plus she is on the highest selling soundtrack of all time...I kind of doubt she's THAT broke. Bobby, yes...Adina Howard, yes...T Boz, yes...Whitney? nah

I'd definitely agree she has no reason to be broke, but if Mike Tyson & Michael Jackson can be broke then Whitney can too

SoulAlive said:

musicjunky318 said:

I was just talking to a friend of mine about this. It's amazing. Madonna, the one with the least amount of raw talent compared to her contemporaries, the one that was originally written off as a one-hit wonder ends up with the most green and the greatest career. How? By being smart as hell.It's the choices we make people. It's the choices we make.

I've always said that Madonna is the smartest person in pop music.She should write a book on maintaining longevity in the music business.

She played the game like nobody had ever done, before or since.

jsluva said:

Ehhh I agree with that to an extent but most major stars have ups and downs. Madonna was taking a back seat to Whitney, Janet and Mariah during her "Erotica" "Bedtime Stories" and "Something to Remember" years. She rebounded and was a competitior during "Ray of Light" Janet was on top when "All For You" came out and the next year Whitney, Mariah bombed with "Charmbracelet", "Just Whitney" and then the next year Madonna's "AMerican Life" sold the least out of the bunch. Mariah was on top during "Emancipation of Mimi" followed closely by Madonna "Confessions". And despite the media attack Whitney's "I Look to You" wiped the floor in sales with "Discipline", "Memoirs" and sold more than Hard Candy. I think Whitney will be giving her peers a run for their money during the "Sparkle" era and Forest and Terry both tweeted that the Waiting to Exhale 2 script was greenlighted two weeks ago and i'm sure that will be a modest success. I love all four of them Janet, Whitney, Mariah and Madonna but they all take turns running things between themselves.

Madonna never took a backseat to any of them. '92 was the year she signed that deal with Time Warner and launched Maverick. I believe her royalty rate was something like 20%. Erotica and Bedtime Stories may have not sold like the Janet album or Music Box but she was still making more dough...which again says something about her business sense. Plus all of her tours have been incredibly successful. I think her latest one, Sticky & Sweet made over $400 million.

musicjunky318 said:

jsluva said:

Ehhh I agree with that to an extent but most major stars have ups and downs. Madonna was taking a back seat to Whitney, Janet and Mariah during her "Erotica" "Bedtime Stories" and "Something to Remember" years. She rebounded and was a competitior during "Ray of Light" Janet was on top when "All For You" came out and the next year Whitney, Mariah bombed with "Charmbracelet", "Just Whitney" and then the next year Madonna's "AMerican Life" sold the least out of the bunch. Mariah was on top during "Emancipation of Mimi" followed closely by Madonna "Confessions". And despite the media attack Whitney's "I Look to You" wiped the floor in sales with "Discipline", "Memoirs" and sold more than Hard Candy. I think Whitney will be giving her peers a run for their money during the "Sparkle" era and Forest and Terry both tweeted that the Waiting to Exhale 2 script was greenlighted two weeks ago and i'm sure that will be a modest success. I love all four of them Janet, Whitney, Mariah and Madonna but they all take turns running things between themselves.

Madonna never took a backseat to any of them. '92 was the year she signed that deal with Time Warner and launched Maverick. I believe her royalty rate was something like 20%. Erotica and Bedtime Stories may have not sold like the Janet album or Music Box but she was still making more dough...which again says something about her business sense. Plus all of her tours have been incredibly successful. I think her latest one, Sticky & Sweet made over $400 million.

Didn't Janet re-up after 1814 for an unprecedented amount at the time? She had game too.

sosgemini said:

musicjunky318 said:

Madonna never took a backseat to any of them. '92 was the year she signed that deal with Time Warner and launched Maverick. I believe her royalty rate was something like 20%. Erotica and Bedtime Stories may have not sold like the Janet album or Music Box but she was still making more dough...which again says something about her business sense. Plus all of her tours have been incredibly successful. I think her latest one, Sticky & Sweet made over $400 million.

Didn't Janet re-up after 1814 for an unprecedented amount at the time? She had game too.

Yes. I don't think it was as high as Madonna's or her brother's though.

musicjunky318 said:

sosgemini said:

Didn't Janet re-up after 1814 for an unprecedented amount at the time? She had game too.

Yes. I don't think it was as high as Madonna's or her brother's though.

At the time, I thought it was the highest for any artist and then everyone chased to re-up and beat it, including Prince...no? That's how I remember it. LOL

LOL. I'm starting to think Whitney's camp is doing this shit on purpose. Less than two years ago Whitney made like $17 million off her tour alone.

..come on now. Bobby is the broke one. When they divorced he got shit.

Didn't her mother take over her estate at one time?

musicjunky318 said:

sosgemini said:

Didn't Janet re-up after 1814 for an unprecedented amount at the time? She had game too.

Yes. I don't think it was as high as Madonna's or her brother's though.

Janet deal at the time was MORE than anybody in the business.... Even her brother! Mariah signed a deal years later that was more than Janet's only to be dropped after Glitter failed... but Michael and Madonna eventually ended up with bigger deals than Janet..

janet signed a deal with Virgin for 35 mill after 1814 and after Janet renegoiated the deal and signed for 85 mill and that was the biggest deal at the time..

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Not surprised everybody mentions Whitneys biggest hit but Dolly made the biggest bucks from that song.Maybe Whitney will have to do some Vegas shows like Gladys, Tina etc

Ah, nothing like a good ol' fashioned human natured dose of Schadenfreude.

shellyk84 said:

Not surprised everybody mentions Whitneys biggest hit but Dolly made the biggest bucks from that song.Maybe Whitney will have to do some Vegas shows like Gladys, Tina etc

If her voice wasn't in such bad shape,she could easily get one of those lucrative Vegas residency deals,like Celine Dion.

SoulAlive said:

shellyk84 said:

Not surprised everybody mentions Whitneys biggest hit but Dolly made the biggest bucks from that song.Maybe Whitney will have to do some Vegas shows like Gladys, Tina etc

If her voice wasn't in such bad shape,she could easily get one of those lucrative Vegas residency deals,like Celine Dion.

Your right I suppose knowbody wants to hear a well know singer's voice crack

(no pun intended)

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Whitney wrote a few songs but she made up for it by executive producing her albums which she started with I'm Your Baby Tonight, which was smart on her end since she knew she wasn't a writer. Bobby's family are out to get her, they were the ones who sold her out back in 06 after she left him. It makes no sense that literally after every positive story a negative one follows days after. It's been the trend since she left him. Anyways, the bottom line is the girl aint broke. She executive produces her albums, executive produced Princess Diaries 1&2 last decade http://www.imdb.com/title...edits#cast which combined made $250 million, that doesn't count dvd sales, she also executive produced Cheetah Girls franchise. She's no dummy, she was smart enough to make sure Bobby didn't get any of her money during their divorce. She's not broke, I just showed you all earlier that her 2010 Tour grossed $36 million, I'm sure she walked away with a nice chunk of that $5-10 million of it.

badujunkie said:

SoulAlive said:

Touring is one way to generate alot of income but sadly,Whitney won't even be able to do that.Her last tour was a disaster,showing her fans how much she has destroyed her once-mighty voice.

She got paid in Europe, though! She still got PAID...

Im taking this one with a grain of salt. People forget I Look to You did pretty well stateside...plus she's in 2 of the biggest blockbusters of the 90s that are always on cable...plus she is on the highest selling soundtrack of all time...I kind of doubt she's THAT broke. Bobby, yes...Adina Howard, yes...T Boz, yes...Whitney? nah

How quickly people forget.

shellyk84 said:

SoulAlive said:

If her voice wasn't in such bad shape,she could easily get one of those lucrative Vegas residency deals,like Celine Dion.

Your right I suppose knowbody wants to hear a well know singer's voice crack

(no pun intended)

there's a reason why she didn't bring her last tour to America.She would have gotten crucified by US critics and fans.

Michael had the biggest deal. He beat Janet a couple weeks later. I just looked it up.