Shango said:

he gotta discuss his pre-solo days

WTF is it !!!!!

kitbradley said:

Why is it when a woman loses weight, she is congratulated but when a man loses weight, people start whisipering? Folks, being overweight it very unhealthy, especially for a man because of where we carry the bulk of our weight. We'll see, but, based on what I've heard, Freddie lost the weight because he just didn't want to be overweight any more.

Brother please. I got a problem when a woman lose more weight than she should. Jennifer Hudson and Janet (sometimes) scare me when they lose weight. So it ain't no double standard with me.

TD3 said:

scriptgirl said:

Maybe you should read. I asked SHANGO, not you.

I never bought Jackson album or record but I didn't change the radio dial if one of his songs came on either. I had the impression, they were trying to make him the next Peabo Bryson.

Mr. Jackson isn't unsung either... boy, that series.

I'm kinda under the impression that most of these Unsungs especially from the first season on ain't as much about "unsung" than about telling the stories of artists whose lives we've known little about and could also be used as promotion for their latest projects much like Behind the Music has done. Just my thoughts.

Well I think Millie Jackson and Ray Parker Jr fit the unsung profile, as did Vesta and Womack's messy ass

Timmy84 said:

kitbradley said:

Why is it when a woman loses weight, she is congratulated but when a man loses weight, people start whisipering? Folks, being overweight it very unhealthy, especially for a man because of where we carry the bulk of our weight. We'll see, but, based on what I've heard, Freddie lost the weight because he just didn't want to be overweight any more.

Brother please. I got a problem when a woman lose more weight than she should. Jennifer Hudson and Janet (sometimes) scare me when they lose weight. So it ain't no double standard with me.

And I don't get why people are down on Jennifer. I've seen her on several shows over the past couple of weeks and she looks absolutely BEAUTIFUL and HEALTHY!!! She is in no way skinny. She's at a healthy, normal weight.

But, my point is, even though a lot of people have been down on Jennifer for losing weight, no one has accused her of being sick or being ill. But, when a man loses alot of weight, often times, people will say there must be something wrong with him.

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scriptgirl said:

Well I think Millie Jackson and Ray Parker Jr fit the unsung profile, as did Vesta and Womack's messy ass

Bobby is not so unsung as far as R&B history goes, maybe in pop/rock history he is, but not R&B. Vesta is definitely unsung because she didn't get pushed properly. Ray Parker, Jr. has performed so many genres I can see why it'll be hard to establish him. Millie has been under the meter for so long in R&B.

kitbradley said:

Timmy84 said:

Brother please. I got a problem when a woman lose more weight than she should. Jennifer Hudson and Janet (sometimes) scare me when they lose weight. So it ain't no double standard with me.

And I don't get why people are down on Jennifer. I've seen her on several shows over the past couple of weeks and she looks absolutely BEAUTIFUL and HEALTHY!!! She is in no way skinny. She's at a healthy, normal weight.

Maybe to you, but I don't see it. But hey, if that's how you see it, hey. I don't think it is though.

Timmy84 said:

TD3 said:

I never bought Jackson album or record but I didn't change the radio dial if one of his songs came on either. I had the impression, they were trying to make him the next Peabo Bryson.

Mr. Jackson isn't unsung either... boy, that series.

I'm kinda under the impression that most of these Unsungs especially from the first season on ain't as much about "unsung" than about telling the stories of artists whose lives we've known little about and could also be used as promotion for their latest projects much like Behind the Music has done. Just my thoughts.

Well, you know my issues with this Series and its title.

As far as these artist lives, I don't give hoot but you know that too.

Didn't I say a couple of threads ago I'd about that series, the flesh is weak.

TD3 said:

Timmy84 said:

I'm kinda under the impression that most of these Unsungs especially from the first season on ain't as much about "unsung" than about telling the stories of artists whose lives we've known little about and could also be used as promotion for their latest projects much like Behind the Music has done. Just my thoughts.

Well, you know my issues with this Series and its title.

As far as these artist lives, I don't give hoot but you know that too.

Didn't I say a couple of threads ago I'd about that series, the flesh is weak.

And you was doing soooo well.

Unsung needs to cover War, Brothers Johnson, Average White Band and Bobby Caldwell and Nona Hendryx and 5 Star and Lisa Stansfield and Slave

Timmy84 said:

TD3 said:

Well, you know my issues with this Series and its title.

As far as these artist lives, I don't give hoot but you know that too.

Didn't I say a couple of threads ago I'd about that series, the flesh is weak.

And you was doing soooo well.

yeah... I was, wasn't I?

it's all script's fault, she started the thread.

Lol @ Ms Trina

Here is the preview of the ep:

http://www.youtube.com/wa...Af6Is8BqSo

Shango said:

he gotta discuss his pre-solo days

WTF??

scriptgirl said:

Thank you, Uncle Grandpa. I think the bigger reason Merlin didn't take off is that the band's name sounded like a kid's show

and what about those costumes?? that is what slayed me.

scriptgirl said:

Well I think Millie Jackson and Ray Parker Jr fit the unsung profile, as did Vesta and Womack's messy ass

Yeah, those costumes were a bit much even by 80s standards.

Well I saw Freddie live. He was touring with Najee and Me'lissa Morgan.

Freddie was the headliner. when he took the stage, the first 2 rows were empty. Some Asians who I think were smooth jazz enthusiast had filled the first 2 rows and when Najee's set was over, they booked.

So I'm sure that didn't sit too well for Freddie. And then quite frankly after listening to him for 30 minutes, I was ready to go also.

sorry but Freddie's voice was very shaky and tremulous. And he did a lot of swooping.

You are my Lady... a favorite song of mine sounded like it was being sung by the advanced adult women's choir. In other words sung by a bunch of old church ladies.

Not a good show at all.

How long ago was this?

prodigalfan said:

Shango said:

he gotta discuss his pre-solo days

WTF??

They look like Lakeside on crack.

On a serious note the i dug the music. I would say i enjoy this music

moreso than a lot of Freddie's solo material.

Prodigal fan, when was that performance of Freddie's that you attended?

I am wondering because it sounds like it was after the peak periods of his career.

His music was extremely popular on Chicago radio, particularly on the quiet storm shows

and top 8 at 8 PM shows.

He did a classly job, similar to his classy music, when he was a co-anchor of

BET news.

prodigalfan said:

scriptgirl said:

Thank you, Uncle Grandpa. I think the bigger reason Merlin didn't take off is that the band's name sounded like a kid's show

and what about those costumes?? that is what slayed me.

As phunkdaddy already mentioned about Lakeside. At that time the costume concept was still active. Lakeside did the genie-outfits around those years and kept on changing their themes with every new album after that (Mob/Gangsters, Raiders Of The Lost Ark, Patrol Army, etc). Flashy costumes with rhinestones and all that were still worn at 80's live shows from various artists. Prince was one that brought some change in the scene with the new-wave look, Vanity/Apollonia 6 exposed the burlesque theme and The Time rocked the zoot suits, stetsons and Stacy Adams.

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Timmy84 said:

TD3 said:

I never bought Jackson album or record but I didn't change the radio dial if one of his songs came on either. I had the impression, they were trying to make him the next Peabo Bryson.

Mr. Jackson isn't unsung either... boy, that series.

I'm kinda under the impression that most of these Unsungs especially from the first season on ain't as much about "unsung" than about telling the stories of artists whose lives we've known little about and could also be used as promotion for their latest projects much like Behind the Music has done. Just my thoughts.

I agree with you on that Timmy84. Many are not "unsung" but I do enjoy seeing stories about them that I knew nothing about. They are always interesting to me!

Freddie lost all that weight so long ago that I hadn't thought much about it lately. I admit my first thought back then was that he had been or was ill as well. Meanwhile, it didn't help his appearance at all! I know people who are overweight don't want to hear that they looked better when they were big, but Freddie......

NewPowerSista said:

Freddie lost all that weight so long ago that I hadn't thought much about it lately. I admit my first thought back then was that he had been or was ill as well. Meanwhile, it didn't help his appearance at all! I know people who are overweight don't want to hear that they looked better when they were big, but Freddie......

I know right?

kitbradley said:

Timmy84 said:

Brother please. I got a problem when a woman lose more weight than she should. Jennifer Hudson and Janet (sometimes) scare me when they lose weight. So it ain't no double standard with me.

And I don't get why people are down on Jennifer. I've seen her on several shows over the past couple of weeks and she looks absolutely BEAUTIFUL and HEALTHY!!! She is in no way skinny. She's at a healthy, normal weight.

But, my point is, even though a lot of people have been down on Jennifer for losing weight, no one has accused her of being sick or being ill. But, when a man loses alot of weight, often times, people will say there must be something wrong with him.

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But Freddie just looks sickly. One thing if he lost weight and looked healthy.

Some people are not meant to be small. Freddie is one of those

Something unfortunate possibly happened when he lost weight, but you can't wish for someone to live an obese life with all the health risks.

scriptgirl said:

Some people are not meant to be small. Freddie is one of those

I bet his doctors disagree. Doesn't matter about looks. Being obese is unhealthy, period.

lyecry said:

kitbradley said:

And I don't get why people are down on Jennifer. I've seen her on several shows over the past couple of weeks and she looks absolutely BEAUTIFUL and HEALTHY!!! She is in no way skinny. She's at a healthy, normal weight.

But, my point is, even though a lot of people have been down on Jennifer for losing weight, no one has accused her of being sick or being ill. But, when a man loses alot of weight, often times, people will say there must be something wrong with him.

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But Freddie just looks sickly. One thing if he lost weight and looked healthy.

He'd look worse lying in a coffin because he died from obesity-related health issues. Guys, we need to move past he or she doesn't look right after weight loss. Of course someone is going to look different after years of obesity. But, we are talking about saving lives and being healthty. I've lost too many people (especially men) to obesity-related illnesses than any thing else. This is a very serious issue to me.