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What's a good place to start for getting into Van Halen? Really liked the new song, the only other songs I know are Jump, Eruption and Runnin' With The Devil.
What would you say was the best couple of albums for someone who is new to the band?? | |
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The first album (Van Halen) and 1984 are their best sellers. Start with them and if you like 'em get the rest of the Dave era albums. | |
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Start with the album 1984. This is a masterpiece and already a classic. Tracklist: | |
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As with any newbie I would suggest, like Lili1992 above, Best Of Both Worlds compilation. Listen to all of it to see what you like and don't like. Then proceed from there with full albums. Though I'm biased, you can't go wrong with the first 6 albums with DLR. The classic 6 pack as it's known. Most, if not all, true VH fans would agree I'm sure. Glad to see you like the new song Matty and your interest in VH. Just in time for the new album. Fantasy is reality in the world today. But I'll keep hangin in there, that is the only way. | |
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As its been said, go with that compilation, its a great one, though a track here and there should have been included its basically a perfect collection of bothe Versions of VH. As for just albums it will really depend on who's style you like David or Sammy, its really a different feel with both, go with 1984 for sure and from Sammy i would suggest For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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I'm glad someone made this topic. I've loved Jump since I was a wee little one in the mid 80's, and David Lee Roth's California Girls/Just a Gigolo mashup video. I also remember a song Love Somebody in the mid 90's, but it was not the same without David though the melody was good.
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Their first album, Van Halen. You realize why VH was such a big damn deal back in the first place, why countless wannabe shredders in rock, metal, etc. all took to it. Plus that's my preference.
1984 is good too, but I don't like "Jump." Never did crap for me. "Hot for Teacher" is good fun. I need to re-listen to that record again, haven't spinned it in a good while.
I'll never forget that anecdote that Dimebag Darrell was buried with one of EVH's guitars (the one featured on the backcover of the VH2 album.)
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I Agree with the first album, it has a ton of there classics, and fan classics like Atomic Punk, Ice Cream Man, Little Dreamer etc. But also if you want to explorethe Sammy & David era for a start... Best Of Both Worlds isn't a bad start Pistols sounded like "Fuck off," wheras The Clash sounded like "Fuck Off, but here's why.."- Thedigitialgardener
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I started chronologically, I think that's what you should do IMO. JERKIN' EVERYTHING IN SIGHT!!!!! | |
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Sammy hater Pistols sounded like "Fuck off," wheras The Clash sounded like "Fuck Off, but here's why.."- Thedigitialgardener
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Ideally yes. Especially if you got the money and time. And if you are able to do that, make sure you spend time with each cd before moving to the next. If not, compilation first then proceed in what era moves you best. Let us know how it goes. Fantasy is reality in the world today. But I'll keep hangin in there, that is the only way. | |
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You say "hater," I say "realist." | |
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I...thought Van Halen II was pretty good too? *shrugs*
But yeah, start with VH first. The most essential album in their entire discography. Followed by 1984, but hey if by price or circumstances, you won't be failed by gong that one first.
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I'll never understand the Sammy hate, he brought out some good songwriting in the band, introduced a lot more piano, even some caribean sounds on songs like Feels So Good, yes he had to many love songs. But the musicianship in the band was top notch at the time & the melodies where great. Have you ever listened to the Sammy era albums or justs kimmed through the tracks
How can you say
Get Up Source Of Infection Pleasure Dome 5150
Are bad songs? those are powerhouse fast paced rockers up there with some of DLR best.
And what about some of the ballads & mellodies? Dreams Not Enough Love Walks In Don't Tell Me[What Love Can Do] Can't Stop Loving you Feels So Good
Come on, thos songs have some kickass melodies to them and some good singing by Sam
Or what about some weird experiments they did with Sammy?
The keyboard & sonic infused Inside? which was more of a dialogue between the band Apolitical Blues? Finish What Ya Started? adding strings to a lot of the songs on Balance
I love both eras, and yes DLR was the punk, the rock, the showmanship, the funk.
Sammy had the melodies, the expirements, the pianos, keyboards, strings.
There's no need to be scared of a band trying out new thing's Pistols sounded like "Fuck off," wheras The Clash sounded like "Fuck Off, but here's why.."- Thedigitialgardener
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Get the 1st 6 albums which is the David Lee Roth era especially Van Halen 1 which is a debut classic. I II Women & Children 1st Fair Warning Diver Down 1984 Classic VH! | |
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I would listen to them sequentially up through 1984, with a major study of VH1. That album is just peerless; interestingly it's heavy yet music fans of all tastes seem to adore it. I have a boot of Phish ripping into 'Runnin' With the Devil' and the crowd just goes apeshit.
And I would avoid the Sammy stuff until much later on (if you feel you must hear it at all). I can't blame them for taking him on after Roth bailed on them. But worthy of the Van Halen name, it was not. | |
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I don't hate the Sammy era, I've got all four of his albums with Van Halen, but to me they almost became a completely different band with him. For me they lost too much of the hard rock/heavy metal sound and became too poppy. Structurally, the songs also changed and started to get too long. The great thing about the Dave era was that the songs were fairly short and punchy. With Sammy five minute songs became the norm and they started to sound a bit bloated and uninspired. Maybe Dave was just there at the right time when Eddie was at his absolute peak? I just find that the songwriting really dipped when Sammy entered the picture.
Maybe a year ago I gave the Sammy albums a listen after not having heard them for quite a while and they were better than I remembered but they are still inferior to the earlier albums with Dave. Realistically I can not see recommending the Sammy era over the Dave era to a new listener. [Edited 1/13/12 4:00am] | |
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There's many an argument with Van Halen vs Van "Hagar". I grew up with CVH and stuck with then during the Hagar years. Did I still like them after the change? Yes. Do I still have the 4 Hagar led releases?. Yes. Do I listen to them much? Not really. Do I hate them? No. But when it comes to the CVH 6 pack, I just feel they don't compare. There's really nothing I cringe or skip on the 6 pack releases. There's a lot of the Hagar stuff that I downright cannot listen to today. That's just me though. Others will feel different. As others said, they really are 2 different bands. You listen, you decide. If you can, start chronologically. It will be more of a fun and interesting ride that way. Fantasy is reality in the world today. But I'll keep hangin in there, that is the only way. | |
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