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Thread started 02/21/03 2:10pm

DigitalLisa

Sick of everybody complaining about Justin......

Listen...
I am a big music fan, and I think it's fair to say I know the difference between real music a fake music. Most of what's played on the radio air waves are crap, but there is a few out there who's trying to make a change in that, we blame these music artist for bad taste in music, when really it's not there fault that bad music is getting put out there, it's the record company's fault for allowing it 2 be in the public hands. YOu know I'm getting really tired of everybody complaining about Justin Timberlake. Justin Timberlake has talent and his only fault is being apart of nysnc when his first few records where release, however. It's not Justin Timberlake's fault for coming out with this bubble gum pop statuts, all this dates back to the 70's when David Casidy was still apart of the Patridge Family.

Justin Timberlake is just a kid, in fact he's still in his twenties. What else kind of music, do you people expect for him to make? He's not gonna sit up here and create a jazz album, simply because you can't dance to it. Now I will be the first to critize when I hear some music that sucks, but Justin Timberlake's music doesn't suck, in fact I dig the whole album and think it's pretty cool and appropiate for a 20 yr old guy who use to date Britney Spears.Maybe as the yrs pass buy, Justin Timberlake will begin to become more of a musician down the road, but right now he's just trying to have fun. Like I said even if Justin Timberlake did create a album such as Prince did with The Rainbow Children, it'll never get any radio air play and Justin Timberlkae would never had a chance of making a solo career for him self. So you see the moral of this story is, we keep complaining about the music artist the this industry, but in all reality it's the record company's fault. Cuz they keep producing the same ol' Sh*T that's been working for the past 20 yrs instead of the taking the chance and releasing something new...

We need to understand that Peole like Ashanti, Justin Timberlake, 50 cents, Avirl Lavenge and so forth are still young. I wouldn't expect for them to truly understand the concept of true music just yet and even if they did, there's not much they can do it about it when some big time excutive producer is mainly in control of their careers.
Well I say, Stop complaining about Justin Timberlake's music, Go buy the album and listen to it, Give him a chance... this is only his debut album, in a few yrs from now he will evovl into his own sound and maybe this time he'll have just a little bit more freedom then what he has now... I think that's what alot people seem to forget that alot of these artist don't have the creative freedom in the way should... this is the reason why music is suffereing, this is the reason why we looose good artist such as Timberlake because of it :Sad:
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Reply #1 posted 02/21/03 3:39pm

EverlastingNow

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DigitalLisa said:

Listen...
I am a big music fan, and I think it's fair to say I know the difference between real music a fake music. Most of what's played on the radio air waves are crap, but there is a few out there who's trying to make a change in that, we blame these music artist for bad taste in music, when really it's not there fault that bad music is getting put out there, it's the record company's fault for allowing it 2 be in the public hands. YOu know I'm getting really tired of everybody complaining about Justin Timberlake. Justin Timberlake has talent and his only fault is being apart of nysnc when his first few records where release, however. It's not Justin Timberlake's fault for coming out with this bubble gum pop statuts, all this dates back to the 70's when David Casidy was still apart of the Patridge Family.

Justin Timberlake is just a kid, in fact he's still in his twenties. What else kind of music, do you people expect for him to make? He's not gonna sit up here and create a jazz album, simply because you can't dance to it. Now I will be the first to critize when I hear some music that sucks, but Justin Timberlake's music doesn't suck, in fact I dig the whole album and think it's pretty cool and appropiate for a 20 yr old guy who use to date Britney Spears.Maybe as the yrs pass buy, Justin Timberlake will begin to become more of a musician down the road, but right now he's just trying to have fun. Like I said even if Justin Timberlake did create a album such as Prince did with The Rainbow Children, it'll never get any radio air play and Justin Timberlkae would never had a chance of making a solo career for him self. So you see the moral of this story is, we keep complaining about the music artist the this industry, but in all reality it's the record company's fault. Cuz they keep producing the same ol' Sh*T that's been working for the past 20 yrs instead of the taking the chance and releasing something new...

We need to understand that Peole like Ashanti, Justin Timberlake, 50 cents, Avirl Lavenge and so forth are still young. I wouldn't expect for them to truly understand the concept of true music just yet and even if they did, there's not much they can do it about it when some big time excutive producer is mainly in control of their careers.
Well I say, Stop complaining about Justin Timberlake's music, Go buy the album and listen to it, Give him a chance... this is only his debut album, in a few yrs from now he will evovl into his own sound and maybe this time he'll have just a little bit more freedom then what he has now... I think that's what alot people seem to forget that alot of these artist don't have the creative freedom in the way should... this is the reason why music is suffereing, this is the reason why we looose good artist such as Timberlake because of it :Sad:


I TOTALLY agree with you!!! Justin is very talented and I love his album.
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Reply #2 posted 02/21/03 4:05pm

mrdespues

He was and always will be the epitome of shit.
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Reply #3 posted 02/21/03 4:12pm

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um, what instruments does he play? when has he produced his material? why does he imitate, and badly at that, the only two Jacksons that matter? Don't get me wrong...he daces better than i ever could. But he copies his image from everyone who came before him. The best thing he's got going for him, career wise, is his appearance. Do you think if he was a little less attractive that he would be nearly as marketable? If the industry didn't pay to play his records over and over again and stopped forcing his image on every mag cover, chances are no one would really care about him. He has an incredible p.r. firm!
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Reply #4 posted 02/21/03 4:21pm

Starmist7

Ginuwine Anytime...
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Reply #5 posted 02/21/03 4:23pm

DavidEye

Justin Timberlake sucks! He's just a second-rate Michael Jackson clone.His vocals are dry and soul-less.He works with all the "hot" R&B and hip-hop producers,trying to gain street credibility.There is nothing unique,artistic or creative about him and his bland,run-of-the-mill music.His over-rehearsed dance moves are pathetic.


But hey,I admire your courage to come on this site and stick up for him smile
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Reply #6 posted 02/21/03 4:26pm

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Justin, on his own, isn't so bad. He's not good, but he's not wretched, either. It's the spin behind him that's disgusting. He is NOT the next Michael Jackson, he's not the next Janet Jackson. Hell, he still has a way to go before he's even the next Tito Jackson, it's just not there. People have hyped him up to be the great white hope, and he's really not that good. And I don't buy the excuse that he's young - he's old enough. Michael Jackson composed Workin' Day And Night, Get On The Floor and Don't Stop To You Get Enough, which are infinitely better than any of the material Justin has put out, when he was young, too. You either have it, or you don't, and Justin simply doesn't have it.
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Reply #7 posted 02/21/03 4:36pm

thedoorkeeper

He reminds me of Pat Boone.
And in the long run Justin Timberlake will have had as much impact on music as Pat Boone.
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Reply #8 posted 02/21/03 5:00pm

mistermaxxx

thedoorkeeper said:

He reminds me of Pat Boone.
And in the long run Justin Timberlake will have had as much impact on music as Pat Boone.
ET Ouch&You Might be on to something there?
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Reply #9 posted 02/21/03 5:01pm

mistermaxxx

Michael at 12 Blew that fool away Period.Hell Tevin Campbell would Smear Justin at the same age why you jivin'.unless Justin can pull out a George Michael "Faith" than I ain't trying to hear it.
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Reply #10 posted 02/21/03 5:16pm

papaa

MODERATORS! PLEASE LOCK THIS TOPIC.

It's a wannabe MJ thread in disguise.

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Reply #11 posted 02/21/03 5:22pm

mistermaxxx

papaa said:

MODERATORS! PLEASE LOCK THIS TOPIC.

It's a wannabe MJ thread in disguise.

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HA HA!!!
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Reply #12 posted 02/21/03 5:39pm

DigitalLisa

Jsutin Timberlake does play insturments and he writes his own lyrics... like I said before , you won't even get your stuff played on the radio unless you working with a hott producer, cuz people don't want to take chances on something new. Let us just all face the fact that the music business is different from what it was 20 yrs ago, you can just make a good album and expect to be a the top. If that was the case... We would still be hearing Prince on the radio. The way the music business now is, unless you working with some hot producer chances are you'll have any success with your career. That's Why Emenim is working with Dr.Dre and Ashanti Working with Jarule, it's not nesscarily that these people have talent, it's the fact that they're working with good producers, Justin Timberlake on the other hand does have talent, but if he wasn't working with hot producers such as the neptunes he wouldn't have a chance making it on his own. I don't blame him for that, I blame the record companies for it. That's why You might here a good artist who have the potential of making it far, but if they don't hook up with somebody like the neptunes, murder inc,rockfella or any other production team they ain't gonna make it, despite how talented they might be... I don't like the fact that it's like this but that's just the way it is these dayz.

I mean Just think about, LL cool hasn't had a hit in so many years and it wasn't because it wasn't making any records it was because he didn't hook up with the right producers and as soon as he hooked up with the neptunes for his hit "love u better" LL career was revived. So all I'm saying is, if you wanna be a artist that makes it to top, you either gotta be a producer or hook up with a really good one and that's just what Justin Timberlake did, Maybe down the line after making a couple a records he'll follow his own league like Missy Ellot did, but I don't know some people not even given him the chance to do so...

I just wish him the best of luck smile
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Reply #13 posted 02/21/03 5:42pm

mistermaxxx

I've seen Justin Play&I Know He knows something about Music Making,etc.. but He just doesn't really impress me with the Kind of Hype He gets.I know that the Business doesn't showcase Properly because the Brother that was the Lead Singer of Silk Plays like 14 Instruments.yeah it's about Formula.Justin is Aight but I have heard Far Better Blue-Eyed SOul Singers&Darryl Hall,George Michael,Michael Mcdonald&Bobby Caldwell Justin Ain't.
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Reply #14 posted 02/21/03 7:41pm

Janeau

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I Agree, his cd is very good.
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Reply #15 posted 02/21/03 8:22pm

lovebizzare

He doesn't really impress me, but his c.d. is okay.
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Reply #16 posted 02/22/03 2:57am

Rhondab

wow@the hatred. Justin is ok and with time may improve.
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Reply #17 posted 02/22/03 3:20am

Essence

mistermaxxx said:

Michael at 12 Blew that fool away Period.Hell Tevin Campbell would Smear Justin at the same age why you jivin'.unless Justin can pull out a George Michael "Faith" than I ain't trying to hear it.


Usher even could cream him vocally and for dance moves. The guy is the ultimate in commercial cynicism that Lisa talks against, I bet his album was the most expensive since MJ's Invincible what with all the cash his label threw at the hottest producers (and their hottest tracks) of the moment.
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Reply #18 posted 02/22/03 1:11pm

Rhondab

interesting enough J.C from N'sync is the better singer and songwriter but shrug
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Reply #19 posted 02/22/03 1:18pm

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i'm with you DigitalLisa. George Michael came from Wham, and he's managed to gain respect through his evolution over the years. He's a good singer, a good dancer, and his songs are great. On that latter point, what more do people want from pop music, other than great songs?

You're kidding yourself i you think pop music (in its widest, all-encompassing defintion) should be about anything more.
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Reply #20 posted 02/22/03 3:57pm

mrdespues

AaronUnlimited said:

i'm with you DigitalLisa. George Michael came from Wham, and he's managed to gain respect through his evolution over the years. He's a good singer, a good dancer, and his songs are great. On that latter point, what more do people want from pop music, other than great songs?

You're kidding yourself i you think pop music (in its widest, all-encompassing defintion) should be about anything more.


Please don't compare Justin Timberlake to George Michael again. Justin Timberlake is an ugly, talentless, soulless (musically), whiny shit who thinks he is every woman's dream come true. His attitude about himself is positively sickening. And as I was probably a woman in a former life at some time or other, I can tell you he is very unnattractive. And shit. Did I mention that? His musical product is shit. Who gives a fuck that the Neptunes produced it? It's still shit. It's got HIS horrible 13 year old sounding voice on it, which makes it shit. Bleeargh. Kindly fuck off, Justin.

Now how's that on the hate-ometer? I hope I win. He's shit.

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[This message was edited Sat Feb 22 15:59:02 PST 2003 by mrdespues]
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Reply #21 posted 02/22/03 4:01pm

DigitalLisa

mrdespues said:

AaronUnlimited said:

i'm with you DigitalLisa. George Michael came from Wham, and he's managed to gain respect through his evolution over the years. He's a good singer, a good dancer, and his songs are great. On that latter point, what more do people want from pop music, other than great songs?

You're kidding yourself i you think pop music (in its widest, all-encompassing defintion) should be about anything more.


Please don't compare Justin Timberlake to George Michael again. Justin Timberlake is an ugly, talentless, soulless (musically), whiny shit who thinks he is every woman's dream come true. His attitude about himself is positively sickening. And as I was probably a woman in a former life at some time or other, I can tell you he is very unnattractive. And shit. Did I mention that? His musical product is shit. Who gives a fuck that the Neptunes produced it? It's still shit. It's got HIS horrible 13 year old sounding voice on it, which makes it shit. Bleeargh. Kindly fuck off, Justin.

Now how's that on the hate-ometer? I hope I win. He's shit.

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[This message was edited Sat Feb 22 15:59:02 PST 2003 by mrdespues]


mad mad Ur wearing my patience thin lol
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Reply #22 posted 02/22/03 4:07pm

Ellie

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I wouldn't complain about Justin if he'd just straight up admit that he's not and never will be the next MJ, Stevie Wonder, Donny Hathaway or whatever. The way he was talking about his album when it was first released was like it was a present day Off The Wall or something - so Timbaland and the Neptunes really brought something "different" and "fresh" to the formula, did they? As I predeicted a year ago, the Neptunes are good but got tired due to working with anyone and everyone. What has Justin done with them to justify calling his album anything more than another teen fad?

There;s one track on the album that I heard and I thought it was a bad 80s Stevie Wonder B-side reject, only sung badly.
[This message was edited Sat Feb 22 16:10:25 PST 2003 by Ellie]
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Reply #23 posted 02/22/03 4:35pm

Starmist7

OKAY, YES...Neptunes and Timbaland have worked with Justin, but, for instance, Timbaland has been working with Aaliyah and Ginuwine for years...and a big thing was never made about them, only after the tragedy of Aaliyah, did a lot of people take notice, even though she was up and coming already...it's like, some people don't notice something good until it's gone...

Ginuwine moves just like Timbaland, just as Usher does, or probably even better, but we know that's all in a trend now, but he also has a whole album produced by Timbaland that sounds like that song Timberlake did, "Cry me a River", and that sounds like Ginuwine's kind of music, because Timbaland produced it, and where is Mr. Ginuwine? How far he is from Justin? Is he all over the newspapers with those albums, especially with 100% Ginuwine, which was a really Good album?!...

That's why I don't like Justin, and he in fact turns me off, because they make a big shi* about him, as they don't with everyone else who's doing the same thing...otherwise, I KNOW what's it's about...they act like Justin is going to be the 'next best thing to Elvis', or something, give me a friggin' break, please...rolleyes
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Reply #24 posted 02/22/03 7:49pm

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mrdespues said:

AaronUnlimited said:

i'm with you DigitalLisa. George Michael came from Wham, and he's managed to gain respect through his evolution over the years. He's a good singer, a good dancer, and his songs are great. On that latter point, what more do people want from pop music, other than great songs?

You're kidding yourself i you think pop music (in its widest, all-encompassing defintion) should be about anything more.


Please don't compare Justin Timberlake to George Michael again. Justin Timberlake is an ugly, talentless, soulless (musically), whiny shit who thinks he is every woman's dream come true. His attitude about himself is positively sickening. And as I was probably a woman in a former life at some time or other, I can tell you he is very unnattractive. And shit. Did I mention that? His musical product is shit. Who gives a fuck that the Neptunes produced it? It's still shit. It's got HIS horrible 13 year old sounding voice on it, which makes it shit. Bleeargh. Kindly fuck off, Justin.

Now how's that on the hate-ometer? I hope I win. He's shit.

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[This message was edited Sat Feb 22 15:59:02 PST 2003 by mrdespues]



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Reply #25 posted 02/24/03 3:27am

DavidEye

mrdespues said:

AaronUnlimited said:

i'm with you DigitalLisa. George Michael came from Wham, and he's managed to gain respect through his evolution over the years. He's a good singer, a good dancer, and his songs are great. On that latter point, what more do people want from pop music, other than great songs?

You're kidding yourself i you think pop music (in its widest, all-encompassing defintion) should be about anything more.


Please don't compare Justin Timberlake to George Michael again. Justin Timberlake is an ugly, talentless, soulless (musically), whiny shit who thinks he is every woman's dream come true. His attitude about himself is positively sickening. And as I was probably a woman in a former life at some time or other, I can tell you he is very unnattractive. And shit. Did I mention that? His musical product is shit. Who gives a fuck that the Neptunes produced it? It's still shit. It's got HIS horrible 13 year old sounding voice on it, which makes it shit. Bleeargh. Kindly fuck off, Justin.

Now how's that on the hate-ometer? I hope I win. He's shit.




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I agree,the comparisons to George Michael are ridiculous.Unlike Justin,George actually has talent,a soulful voice,and at 16 years old,he wrote "Careless Whisper".Nuff said.
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Reply #26 posted 02/24/03 7:39am

Universaluv

Justin's definitely better solo that he was with N'Sync. Granted that's not really sayin much. His cd definitely has a couple of good tunes, but nothing great.
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Reply #27 posted 02/24/03 10:10am

DigitalLisa

I honestly think that Justin Timberlake has alot of potential and if he works with the right people, he really could make it far. The only thing I don't like about Justin Timberlake is how he takes everything so seriously, I mean I know he wants to make a good record and everything, but in the same music is supposed to be fun, I think he tries to hard to be cool, but that goes along with Christina Aguelria and Britney Spears also. I think if Justin Timberlake just chill out for a second, be cool, lighten up up and hook up with a couple of great musicians who will show a trick or take, I gurantee Justin will go down in history books smile

I should be his manager lol
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Reply #28 posted 02/24/03 1:12pm

AaronUnlimited

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DavidEye said:

mrdespues said:

AaronUnlimited said:

i'm with you DigitalLisa. George Michael came from Wham, and he's managed to gain respect through his evolution over the years. He's a good singer, a good dancer, and his songs are great. On that latter point, what more do people want from pop music, other than great songs?

You're kidding yourself i you think pop music (in its widest, all-encompassing defintion) should be about anything more.


Please don't compare Justin Timberlake to George Michael again. Justin Timberlake is an ugly, talentless, soulless (musically), whiny shit who thinks he is every woman's dream come true. His attitude about himself is positively sickening. And as I was probably a woman in a former life at some time or other, I can tell you he is very unnattractive. And shit. Did I mention that? His musical product is shit. Who gives a fuck that the Neptunes produced it? It's still shit. It's got HIS horrible 13 year old sounding voice on it, which makes it shit. Bleeargh. Kindly fuck off, Justin.

Now how's that on the hate-ometer? I hope I win. He's shit.




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I agree,the comparisons to George Michael are ridiculous.Unlike Justin,George actually has talent,a soulful voice,and at 16 years old,he wrote "Careless Whisper".Nuff said.



He also sang "Wake Me Up Before You Go Go" and Justin does have a nice voice also. I'm sure you could tell what a great singer GM was when "Wham Rap" came out huh? rolleyes
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