Europe, racist? No way.
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omg what? This can't be. Europeans aren't racist. Europe is practically a utopia.
The term ‘niggabitch’ came from America and we solely used it to describe a style of dress.
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Mr Paul Mooney - as just about always - knows what is up, even if he doesn't "publicly" say "nigga" anymore.
was Ms. Rihanna - as Paul would say - under the "illusion of inclusion"??
by the way - has Paul's latest dvd "it's the end of the world" - ever come out?? it was supposed to come out last year.. I'm still waiting for it!!
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Don't know about the DVD, but I have to agree that this man definitely knows what is up. The "nigga wake up call" and "1-800-blame a nigga" commentaries that he has made are some of the truest words ever spoken by a public figure. perfection is a fallacy of the imagination... | |
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Oh yes he does!! Saw him at the Improv last month. It's back in the show. | |
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I didn't excuse anybody. I wanted to evoke a discussion beyond the obvious racism and not ignore all subtleties.
I don't feel the need to excuse myself for anything Dutch traders did 300 years ago. Nor do I think the African tribal wars and culture of kidnapping people to use them for slavery.
I understand that the discussion has been settled now. The editor was wrong. She rightly resigned. And Europeans are racist and xenophobes.
Good that we got that one settled.
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I don't agree with Rihanna saying the 'n***a' came out in her, because iit sort of contradicts what she is upset about, but doesn't excuse the writer of the article for that comment. I also don't see her playing the race card, because she's speaking out and standing up against it. I'm glad she spoke out about it and not embrace it as if it is okay for anyone, regardless of their racial background to think it is okay to refer to an artist or anyone, in such a way. If Heidi Klum wore that outfit Rihanna is shown wearing in that artcle, she would have never been defined in such a way.
It is what it is;that writer called her that slur in print and there's no excuses for that type of reference. Let's just call it what it is. It was a racially-prejudiced, stereotype statement and offensive to more than just Rihanna, because that 'image' that writer speak of does not reflect or represent how all Black female artists or Black women/girls dress. I'm African-American and never heard of that term used to define a form of style in the way some Black females/Black female artists in America dress.
Now if we talk about how Beyonce and Rihanna dress, then what about Madonna who was way before Bey or Rihanna? Madonna was the one of the main and most popular female artist of the 80s for many young girls, from many racial backgrounds who adored her. When she first started I remember she was rolling around on the floor in a sexually, suggestive way, then down the line promoted sexual gestures in her dance moves, and many in the public embraced it as part of her image with no problem. Not all of course. Many young girls wanted to be Madonna and emulated her. Madonna had no problem grabbing her crotch on television and wearing sleazy clothes. I never heard anyone referring to Madonna in a racially, offensive manner, and her Madonna's dance movements were more sexually bold than Rihanna's and in your face.
So the way Bey, Rihanna and 'some' female artists dress today, does not represent every, Black female in America. Quite frankly, the half-naked, sexual image is what some record exes in the industry promote, and the customers of those artists support it. The problem is way beyond Bey and Ri, not to mention the 'images' in the model/fashion industry, which many young girls desire to look like. Parents need to take responsibility for what they expose their daughters to , and it is their job to guide them in the direction of role models that they feel are acceptable and positive images and role models for their daughters. Bottom line, let's call it what it is, and not make excuses..the writer was wrong for calling Rihanna that nasty, racially, offensive term, and people shouldn't make excuses for a racially, offensive term you wouldn't want someone to say to you.. That's all I got for now. [Edited 12/21/11 19:20pm] | |
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WHen she said the nigga came out of her, she was refering to the man at the hotel who insulted her. Not the magazine editor. | |
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Haha. I can TASTE the Sarcasm. I am reminded of all the problems with racism at Soccer matches particularly in Italy (or Shitaly as Peter Tosh famously called it). I must add though that I do not think white supremacy/Racism is better or worse in Europe or America, it is just different from place to place...and it is a global phenomena. On a related note I am just reading the book "Brainwashed" by Tom Burrell. Great book it deals with these stereotypes which several artists are using to sell music ( like women waring very little clothes..Rihanna are you listiening) but diminish themselves and black people in the process. In the book he references so many examples in popular culture it is scary.
http://www.amazon.com/Brainwashed-Challenging-Myth-Black-Inferiority/dp/1401925928/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1324528859&sr=8-1 [Edited 12/21/11 20:43pm] To All the Haters on the Internet
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Change it one more time.. | |
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WWWWHHHAAAAATTTTT?????
PAUL IS SAYING "NIGGA" AGAIN IN PUBLIC???
WHEN DID YOU SEE HIM?? WHERE??
he was here in the Denver area in early September.. but I couldn't get out to see him! Mr. Mooney ENLIGHTENED me about the word nigga. I'm not someone who says it every other word out of my mouth.. but I don't shy away from saying it either if I want to say it.. & I don't avoid saying it in the presence of caucasians or anyone else.
I still get a good laugh from his take on "the n word" on his cd "race" "make that nigger.. stop saying nigger..! I'm getting a nigger headache! you [white people] fucked up.. you shouldn't have made up the word nigger.. I say it 100 times every morning - it makes my teeth white"
then to touch on Arbwyth's comment.. I lived - I REALLY LOVED living in Europe: France & Italia. (in fact, I'm revving up to live over there again next year..) yeah, if you stay there long enough you'll likely come across some ignorant/evil/stupid people there too (me personally.. I did not experience it in France.. but I know several Africans in France told me about situations they were in.. )
I think the difference between caucasian Europeans & caucasian Americans is that in Europe, they don't live with/have the "direct stain" of SLAVERY like people here in the USA do.
granted, almost every European country did, in the past, do some version of the "colonialism thing" which indeed wreaked its own havoc in other parts of the world..
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As a Black woman I have to say that it would behoove Rihanna to stop referring to herself as ni&&a and bitch in public and then flipping out when folk call her the same words. It just smacks of hypocrisy. As for the racists, well....expect to get cussed out when acting like a racist. If anyone were to call me a ni&&abitch they would probably end up eating teeth. Even if hypocritical, what I call myself doesn't mean you get to call me the same thing. Too bad. A bit of common sense in this world would go so far.... | |
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No she was stating that she took on an 'attitude' of a 'n***a', when she was called one. That is what she meant. In other words it's like someone saying 'If you call me that, then I will show you what one is like'. It doesn't necessarily mean she thinks of herself as a 'n***a', Although the 'n' word was depicted as a racist slur by racists, mainly during slavery/post-slavery years and embraced by racists as ok to use, who in 'their own ignorance' used that term to associate with Blacks in order to demoralize/degrade them to make them feel less than human.
Not saying in anyway that you may not know how and why the term is used or what it means, but by Rihanna saying it that way, not everyone will understand what she meant, but think she admitted to being a 'n***a' by saying how she responded, which is why she should not have expressed it that way. As it will just be another excuse for someone to say she called herself one,, and iwll think the writer should then be excused for calling her one. | |
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ROTFL.... I knew when he may that vow ... it was NOT going to last for long...LOL | |
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I'm not arguing her semantics of nigga. All I'm saying is that her response was directed toward the racist she met in Portugal. | |
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I saw him November 19th at the Improv in Arlington, TX and he definitely used the "N" word all through the show. http://www.dallasblack.co...ooneyfunny [Edited 12/23/11 15:28pm] | |
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Oh yeah he was on it that night! I'm glad I got to see him. | |
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I think I love you. surviving on the thought of loving you, it's just like the water
I ain't felt this way in years... | |
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wow Wow WOW!!!! surviving on the thought of loving you, it's just like the water
I ain't felt this way in years... | |
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