Europe, racist? No way.

ScarletScandal said:

NIGGA WAKE UP CALL!!!!

omg what? This can't be. Europeans aren't racist. Europe is practically a utopia.

The term ‘niggabitch’ came from America and we solely used it to describe a style of dress.

Fuck off, bitch.

ScarletScandal said:

NIGGA WAKE UP CALL!!!!

Mr Paul Mooney - as just about always - knows what is up,

even if he doesn't "publicly" say "nigga" anymore.

was Ms. Rihanna - as Paul would say - under the "illusion of inclusion"??

by the way - has Paul's latest dvd "it's the end of the world" - ever come out??

it was supposed to come out last year.. I'm still waiting for it!!

mltijchr said:

ScarletScandal said:

NIGGA WAKE UP CALL!!!!

Mr Paul Mooney - as just about always - knows what is up,

even if he doesn't "publicly" say "nigga" anymore.

was Ms. Rihanna - as Paul would say - under the "illusion of inclusion"??

by the way - has Paul's latest dvd "it's the end of the world" - ever come out??

it was supposed to come out last year.. I'm still waiting for it!!

Don't know about the DVD, but I have to agree that this man definitely knows what is up. The "nigga wake up call" and "1-800-blame a nigga" commentaries that he has made are some of the truest words ever spoken by a public figure.

mltijchr said:

ScarletScandal said:

NIGGA WAKE UP CALL!!!!

Mr Paul Mooney - as just about always - knows what is up,

even if he doesn't "publicly" say "nigga" anymore.

was Ms. Rihanna - as Paul would say - under the "illusion of inclusion"??

by the way - has Paul's latest dvd "it's the end of the world" - ever come out??

it was supposed to come out last year.. I'm still waiting for it!!

Oh yes he does!! Saw him at the Improv last month. It's back in the show.

Arbwyth said:

dJJ said:

I agree she is only 23 and still needs to grow up. However, she does take the money as an adult and sings about adult play. Then, why not be hold accountable as an adult?

You do realize it's possible to hold somebody accountable for their actions without being racist and misogynist, right? Honestly, NOTHING about that article struck me as a woman trying to hold Rihanna accountable for her image (which, as mjscarousel rightly noted, is not just Rihanna). It was just a sad, racist, out-of-touch editor trying to sound cool and edgy. What people like her don't realize is that the second you resort to bigotry to make your point, your point is lost.

bellanoche said:

Additionally, I am sick of Europeans feigning innocence or naivety when it comes to racism against blacks/people of African descent.

YES. I've lived in Germany and Amsterdam, and was in Amsterdam during 9/11. You would not believe how all kinds of ugly broke out there afterwards. Anybody who doubts it should just Google Pim Fortuyn. I don't think Europeans are any more or less racist than Americans -- that's a frankly useless and unwinnable discussion -- but it is obnoxious how in denial Europeans are about the racism within their own borders. Yes, I realize that they view racism as a U.S. thing and Europeans would understandably rather not be associated with a lot of the stupidity that goes on here, but sometimes you gotta put your pride aside and face facts. So you have something unpleasant in common with the United States. It doesn't mean you share all our other flaws, damn.

Also, the Dutch are more familiar with American culture than any other place I've traveled, and your average Dutch person speaks perfect English. I shit you not, I met many Dutch people who speak better English than some Americans I know. American slang is easily and frequently adopted into Dutch, and most Dutch I met understood the nuances of our slang terms quite well. As an example, shortly after arriving in Amsterdam one of my Dutch friends explained to me that their version of the word "cunt" is not nearly as forbidden as ours, and can be used in all sorts of situations, such as stubbing one's toe, waking up late to work, etc. So the ignorance argument is really some bullshit. And then you add in Holland's colonial history -- I mean, let's not forget for a second that this is the country that inititially colonized South Africa, and their descendants were the most enthusiastic about apartheid. You can't just sit and play dumb about racism when you have the type of history that Holland has in South Africa, Indonesia, and Surinaam. Also, isn't it kind of a well-known fact that Europeans often know American history better than Americans? So, how are you gonna argue ignorance on the topic of racism in American history? I KNOW those European history books didn't skip slavery because Europeans love to pull it out any time they need to make a point about our racist history, but then when they say something racist about a black American they suddenly don't know aaaaaanything about U.S. history. Damn. So many transparent excuses on this topic....

[Edited 12/20/11 19:42pm]

[Edited 12/20/11 19:44pm]

I didn't excuse anybody. I wanted to evoke a discussion beyond the obvious racism and not ignore all subtleties.

I don't feel the need to excuse myself for anything Dutch traders did 300 years ago. Nor do I think the African tribal wars and culture of kidnapping people to use them for slavery.

I understand that the discussion has been settled now. The editor was wrong. She rightly resigned. And Europeans are racist and xenophobes.

Good that we got that one settled.

dJJ said:

MidniteMagnet said:

Rihanna encounters some racist asshole who hates blacks so she brings her "nigga" out. I'm not even sure what that means, but the guy probably had all of his racist notions confirmed when she pulled her "nigga" out. And then she's upset when a magazine refers to her as a niggabitch "who displays it proudly." She seemed proud on Twitter! Does she find the word nigga offensive or not and is she one??

I'm pretty sure Rihanna interpreted the 'niggab**ch' in a Dutch magazine not the way it was intended. The article is for mothers faced with young daughters who want to dress just like Rihanna (Or Beyonce or any of the other one in a dozen marketing stars) and call themselves bitches. These little girls copy style and words from their favorite singers. And mothers need to find a way to negotiate with their kids how to dress in that style in the winter and not get yelled at by their children as they learn from these videoclips. This artical was sarcastically refering to those negotiations with your daughter. Little kids who have no idea about the American racial issues, will yell out terms as bitch and niggabitch. I don't understand why it is suddenly shocking that these terms now are commonly used. Not only by Afro American singers, but also in the general media.

Kids are adopting the "cool Afro American style" displayed in hiphop video clips and dressing style of some female Afro American artists in video's, along with the lyrics they sing. The music is marketed at little kids. In Holland Beyonce, Rihanna etcetera generally are considered girls that are run by the marketing machines.

Fortunately, when kids grow up, they get interested in musicians with their own style and ideas. They will be sick of having to adore an empty shell like Beyonce. They will look for musicians who connect with their fans in stead of just want to be adored by them. Musicians who actuallly have ideas of their own about their music and style. Females like Erikah, Pink and Dutch singers as Caro Emerald, Anouk, Glennis Grace or Nina have an older fanbase.

However, little girls love the fake Disney style and Beyonce and Rihanna are examples of that. I like Rihannas voice and sexy songs. However, I do think she is making money by making music for little kids. When she stops making music by a format and develops her own identity, she might be appealing to older girls. Then she will not be mentioned in an article directed at moms on how to deal with your 8 year old who is copying you and wants to go out in extremely short dresses and use that kind of language. And when there is a sarcastic article about that, and she is playing the race card, I doubt if she understands what kind of impact she has on little kids that try to be as 'filthy' as her.

I don't agree with Rihanna saying the 'n***a' came out in her, because iit sort of contradicts what she is upset about, but doesn't excuse the writer of the article for that comment. I also don't see her playing the race card, because she's speaking out and standing up against it. I'm glad she spoke out about it and not embrace it as if it is okay for anyone, regardless of their racial background to think it is okay to refer to an artist or anyone, in such a way. If Heidi Klum wore that outfit Rihanna is shown wearing in that artcle, she would have never been defined in such a way.

It is what it is;that writer called her that slur in print and there's no excuses for that type of reference. Let's just call it what it is. It was a racially-prejudiced, stereotype statement and offensive to more than just Rihanna, because that 'image' that writer speak of does not reflect or represent how all Black female artists or Black women/girls dress. I'm African-American and never heard of that term used to define a form of style in the way some Black females/Black female artists in America dress.

Now if we talk about how Beyonce and Rihanna dress, then what about Madonna who was way before Bey or Rihanna? Madonna was the one of the main and most popular female artist of the 80s for many young girls, from many racial backgrounds who adored her. When she first started I remember she was rolling around on the floor in a sexually, suggestive way, then down the line promoted sexual gestures in her dance moves, and many in the public embraced it as part of her image with no problem. Not all of course. Many young girls wanted to be Madonna and emulated her. Madonna had no problem grabbing her crotch on television and wearing sleazy clothes. I never heard anyone referring to Madonna in a racially, offensive manner, and her Madonna's dance movements were more sexually bold than Rihanna's and in your face.

So the way Bey, Rihanna and 'some' female artists dress today, does not represent every, Black female in America. Quite frankly, the half-naked, sexual image is what some record exes in the industry promote, and the customers of those artists support it. The problem is way beyond Bey and Ri, not to mention the 'images' in the model/fashion industry, which many young girls desire to look like. Parents need to take responsibility for what they expose their daughters to , and it is their job to guide them in the direction of role models that they feel are acceptable and positive images and role models for their daughters. Bottom line, let's call it what it is, and not make excuses..the writer was wrong for calling Rihanna that nasty, racially, offensive term, and people shouldn't make excuses for a racially, offensive term you wouldn't want someone to say to you.. That's all I got for now.

[Edited 12/21/11 19:20pm]

2elijah said:

dJJ said:

I'm pretty sure Rihanna interpreted the 'niggab**ch' in a Dutch magazine not the way it was intended. The article is for mothers faced with young daughters who want to dress just like Rihanna (Or Beyonce or any of the other one in a dozen marketing stars) and call themselves bitches. These little girls copy style and words from their favorite singers. And mothers need to find a way to negotiate with their kids how to dress in that style in the winter and not get yelled at by their children as they learn from these videoclips. This artical was sarcastically refering to those negotiations with your daughter. Little kids who have no idea about the American racial issues, will yell out terms as bitch and niggabitch. I don't understand why it is suddenly shocking that these terms now are commonly used. Not only by Afro American singers, but also in the general media.

Kids are adopting the "cool Afro American style" displayed in hiphop video clips and dressing style of some female Afro American artists in video's, along with the lyrics they sing. The music is marketed at little kids. In Holland Beyonce, Rihanna etcetera generally are considered girls that are run by the marketing machines.

Fortunately, when kids grow up, they get interested in musicians with their own style and ideas. They will be sick of having to adore an empty shell like Beyonce. They will look for musicians who connect with their fans in stead of just want to be adored by them. Musicians who actuallly have ideas of their own about their music and style. Females like Erikah, Pink and Dutch singers as Caro Emerald, Anouk, Glennis Grace or Nina have an older fanbase.

However, little girls love the fake Disney style and Beyonce and Rihanna are examples of that. I like Rihannas voice and sexy songs. However, I do think she is making money by making music for little kids. When she stops making music by a format and develops her own identity, she might be appealing to older girls. Then she will not be mentioned in an article directed at moms on how to deal with your 8 year old who is copying you and wants to go out in extremely short dresses and use that kind of language. And when there is a sarcastic article about that, and she is playing the race card, I doubt if she understands what kind of impact she has on little kids that try to be as 'filthy' as her.

I don't agree with Rihanna saying the 'n***a' came out in her, because iit sort of contradicts what she is upset about, but doesn't excuse the writer of the article for that comment. I also don't see her playing the race card, because she's speaking out and standing up against it. I'm glad she spoke out about it and not embrace it as if it is okay for anyone, regardless of their racial background to think it is okay to refer to an artist or anyone, in such a way. If Heidi Klum wore that outfit Rihanna is shown wearing in that artcle, she would have never been defined in such a way.

It is what it is;that writer called her that slur in print and there's no excuses for that type of reference. Let's just call it what it is. It was a racially-prejudiced, stereotype statement and offensive to more than just Rihanna, because that 'image' that writer speak of does not reflect or represent how all Black female artists or Black women/girls dress. I'm African-American and never heard of that term used to define a form of style in the way some Black females/Black female artists in America dress.

Now if we talk about how Beyonce and Rihanna dress, then what about Madonna who was way before Bey or Rihanna? Madonna was the one of the main and most popular female artist of the 80s for many young girls, from many racial backgrounds who adored her. When she first started I remember she was rolling around on the floor in a sexually, suggestive way, then down the line promoted sexual gestures in her dance moves, and many in the public embraced it as part of her image with no problem. Not all of course. Many young girls wanted to be Madonna and emulated her. Madonna had no problem grabbing her crotch on television and wearing sleazy clothes. I never heard anyone referring to Madonna in a racially, offensive manner, and her Madonna's dance movements were more sexually bold than Rihanna's and in your face.

So the way Bey, Rihanna and 'some' female artists dress today, does not represent every, Black female in America. Quite frankly, the half-naked, sexual image is what some record exes in the industry promote, and the customers of those artists support it. The problem is way beyond Bey and Ri, not to mention the 'images' in the model/fashion industry, which many young girls desire to look like. Parents need to take responsibility for what they expose their daughters to , and it is their job to guide them in the direction of role models that they feel are acceptable and positive images and role models for their daughters. Bottom line, let's call it what it is, and not make excuses..the writer was wrong for calling Rihanna that nasty, racially, offensive term, and people shouldn't make excuses for a racially, offensive term you wouldn't want someone to say to you.. That's all I got for now.

[Edited 12/21/11 19:20pm]

WHen she said the nigga came out of her, she was refering to the man at the hotel who insulted her. Not the magazine editor.

RRA said:

Europe, racist? No way.

Haha. I can TASTE the Sarcasm. I am reminded of all the problems with racism at Soccer matches particularly in Italy (or Shitaly as Peter Tosh famously called it). I must add though that I do not think white supremacy/Racism is better or worse in Europe or America, it is just different from place to place...and it is a global phenomena. On a related note I am just reading the book "Brainwashed" by Tom Burrell. Great book it deals with these stereotypes which several artists are using to sell music ( like women waring very little clothes..Rihanna are you listiening) but diminish themselves and black people in the process. In the book he references so many examples in popular culture it is scary.

http://www.amazon.com/Brainwashed-Challenging-Myth-Black-Inferiority/dp/1401925928/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1324528859&sr=8-1

[Edited 12/21/11 20:43pm]

Layzie said:

WHen she said the nigga came out of her, she was refering to the man at the hotel...

dannyd5050 said:

mltijchr said:

Mr Paul Mooney - as just about always - knows what is up,

even if he doesn't "publicly" say "nigga" anymore.

was Ms. Rihanna - as Paul would say - under the "illusion of inclusion"??

by the way - has Paul's latest dvd "it's the end of the world" - ever come out??

it was supposed to come out last year.. I'm still waiting for it!!

Oh yes he does!! Saw him at the Improv last month. It's back in the show.

WWWWHHHAAAAATTTTT?????

PAUL IS SAYING "NIGGA" AGAIN IN PUBLIC???

WHEN DID YOU SEE HIM?? WHERE??

he was here in the Denver area in early September.. but I couldn't get out to see him!

Mr. Mooney ENLIGHTENED me about the word nigga. I'm not someone who says it every other word out of my mouth.. but I don't shy away from saying it either if I want to say it.. & I don't avoid saying it in the presence of caucasians or anyone else.

I still get a good laugh from his take on "the n word" on his cd "race"

"make that nigger.. stop saying nigger..!

I'm getting a nigger headache!

you [white people] fucked up.. you shouldn't have made up the word nigger..

I say it 100 times every morning - it makes my teeth white"

then to touch on Arbwyth's comment.. I lived - I REALLY LOVED living in Europe: France & Italia.

(in fact, I'm revving up to live over there again next year..)

yeah, if you stay there long enough you'll likely come across some ignorant/evil/stupid people there too

(me personally.. I did not experience it in France.. but I know several Africans in France told me about situations they were in.. )

I think the difference between caucasian Europeans & caucasian Americans is that in Europe, they don't live with/have the "direct stain" of SLAVERY like people here in the USA do.

granted, almost every European country did, in the past, do some version of the "colonialism thing" which indeed wreaked its own havoc in other parts of the world..

Layzie said:

2elijah said:

I don't agree with Rihanna saying the 'n***a' came out in her, because iit sort of contradicts what she is upset about, but doesn't excuse the writer of the article for that comment. I also don't see her playing the race card, because she's speaking out and standing up against it. I'm glad she spoke out about it and not embrace it as if it is okay for anyone, regardless of their racial background to think it is okay to refer to an artist or anyone, in such a way. If Heidi Klum wore that outfit Rihanna is shown wearing in that artcle, she would have never been defined in such a way.

It is what it is;that writer called her that slur in print and there's no excuses for that type of reference. Let's just call it what it is. It was a racially-prejudiced, stereotype statement and offensive to more than just Rihanna, because that 'image' that writer speak of does not reflect or represent how all Black female artists or Black women/girls dress. I'm African-American and never heard of that term used to define a form of style in the way some Black females/Black female artists in America dress.

Now if we talk about how Beyonce and Rihanna dress, then what about Madonna who was way before Bey or Rihanna? Madonna was the one of the main and most popular female artist of the 80s for many young girls, from many racial backgrounds who adored her. When she first started I remember she was rolling around on the floor in a sexually, suggestive way, then down the line promoted sexual gestures in her dance moves, and many in the public embraced it as part of her image with no problem. Not all of course. Many young girls wanted to be Madonna and emulated her. Madonna had no problem grabbing her crotch on television and wearing sleazy clothes. I never heard anyone referring to Madonna in a racially, offensive manner, and her Madonna's dance movements were more sexually bold than Rihanna's and in your face.

So the way Bey, Rihanna and 'some' female artists dress today, does not represent every, Black female in America. Quite frankly, the half-naked, sexual image is what some record exes in the industry promote, and the customers of those artists support it. The problem is way beyond Bey and Ri, not to mention the 'images' in the model/fashion industry, which many young girls desire to look like. Parents need to take responsibility for what they expose their daughters to , and it is their job to guide them in the direction of role models that they feel are acceptable and positive images and role models for their daughters. Bottom line, let's call it what it is, and not make excuses..the writer was wrong for calling Rihanna that nasty, racially, offensive term, and people shouldn't make excuses for a racially, offensive term you wouldn't want someone to say to you.. That's all I got for now.

[Edited 12/21/11 19:20pm]

WHen she said the nigga came out of her, she was refering to the man at the hotel who insulted her. Not the magazine editor.

No she was stating that she took on an 'attitude' of a 'n***a', when she was called one. That is what she meant. In other words it's like someone saying 'If you call me that, then I will show you what one is like'. It doesn't necessarily mean she thinks of herself as a 'n***a', Although the 'n' word was depicted as a racist slur by racists, mainly during slavery/post-slavery years and embraced by racists as ok to use, who in 'their own ignorance' used that term to associate with Blacks in order to demoralize/degrade them to make them feel less than human.

Not saying in anyway that you may not know how and why the term is used or what it means, but by Rihanna saying it that way, not everyone will understand what she meant, but think she admitted to being a 'n***a' by saying how she responded, which is why she should not have expressed it that way. As it will just be another excuse for someone to say she called herself one,, and iwll think the writer should then be excused for calling her one.

dannyd5050 said:

mltijchr said:

Mr Paul Mooney - as just about always - knows what is up,

even if he doesn't "publicly" say "nigga" anymore.

was Ms. Rihanna - as Paul would say - under the "illusion of inclusion"??

by the way - has Paul's latest dvd "it's the end of the world" - ever come out??

it was supposed to come out last year.. I'm still waiting for it!!

Oh yes he does!! Saw him at the Improv last month. It's back in the show.

ROTFL.... I knew when he may that vow ... it was NOT going to last for long...LOL

2elijah said:

Layzie said:

WHen she said the nigga came out of her, she was refering to the man at the hotel who insulted her. Not the magazine editor.

No she was stating that she took on an 'attitude' of a 'n***a', when she was called one. That is what she meant. In other words it's like someone saying 'If you call me that, then I will show you what one is like'. It doesn't necessarily mean she thinks of herself as a 'n***a', Although the 'n' word was depicted as a racist slur by racists, mainly during slavery/post-slavery years and embraced by racists as ok to use, who in 'their own ignorance' used that term to associate with Blacks in order to demoralize/degrade them to make them feel less than human.

Not saying in anyway that you may not know how and why the term is used or what it means, but by Rihanna saying it that way, not everyone will understand what she meant, but think she admitted to being a 'n***a' by saying how she responded, which is why she should not have expressed it that way. As it will just be another excuse for someone to say she called herself one,, and iwll think the writer should then be excused for calling her one.

I'm not arguing her semantics of nigga. All I'm saying is that her response was directed toward the racist she met in Portugal.

mltijchr said:

dannyd5050 said:

Oh yes he does!! Saw him at the Improv last month. It's back in the show.

WWWWHHHAAAAATTTTT?????

PAUL IS SAYING "NIGGA" AGAIN IN PUBLIC???

WHEN DID YOU SEE HIM?? WHERE??

I saw him November 19th at the Improv in Arlington, TX and he definitely used the "N" word all through the show. http://www.dallasblack.co...ooneyfunny

[Edited 12/23/11 15:28pm]

mjscarousal said:

dannyd5050 said:

Oh yes he does!! Saw him at the Improv last month. It's back in the show.

ROTFL.... I knew when he may that vow ... it was NOT going to last for long...LOL

Oh yeah he was on it that night! I'm glad I got to see him.

2elijah said:

dJJ said:

I'm pretty sure Rihanna interpreted the 'niggab**ch' in a Dutch magazine not the way it was intended. The article is for mothers faced with young daughters who want to dress just like Rihanna (Or Beyonce or any of the other one in a dozen marketing stars) and call themselves bitches. These little girls copy style and words from their favorite singers. And mothers need to find a way to negotiate with their kids how to dress in that style in the winter and not get yelled at by their children as they learn from these videoclips. This artical was sarcastically refering to those negotiations with your daughter. Little kids who have no idea about the American racial issues, will yell out terms as bitch and niggabitch. I don't understand why it is suddenly shocking that these terms now are commonly used. Not only by Afro American singers, but also in the general media.

Kids are adopting the "cool Afro American style" displayed in hiphop video clips and dressing style of some female Afro American artists in video's, along with the lyrics they sing. The music is marketed at little kids. In Holland Beyonce, Rihanna etcetera generally are considered girls that are run by the marketing machines.

Fortunately, when kids grow up, they get interested in musicians with their own style and ideas. They will be sick of having to adore an empty shell like Beyonce. They will look for musicians who connect with their fans in stead of just want to be adored by them. Musicians who actuallly have ideas of their own about their music and style. Females like Erikah, Pink and Dutch singers as Caro Emerald, Anouk, Glennis Grace or Nina have an older fanbase.

However, little girls love the fake Disney style and Beyonce and Rihanna are examples of that. I like Rihannas voice and sexy songs. However, I do think she is making money by making music for little kids. When she stops making music by a format and develops her own identity, she might be appealing to older girls. Then she will not be mentioned in an article directed at moms on how to deal with your 8 year old who is copying you and wants to go out in extremely short dresses and use that kind of language. And when there is a sarcastic article about that, and she is playing the race card, I doubt if she understands what kind of impact she has on little kids that try to be as 'filthy' as her.

I don't agree with Rihanna saying the 'n***a' came out in her, because iit sort of contradicts what she is upset about, but doesn't excuse the writer of the article for that comment. I also don't see her playing the race card, because she's speaking out and standing up against it. I'm glad she spoke out about it and not embrace it as if it is okay for anyone, regardless of their racial background to think it is okay to refer to an artist or anyone, in such a way. If Heidi Klum wore that outfit Rihanna is shown wearing in that artcle, she would have never been defined in such a way.

It is what it is;that writer called her that slur in print and there's no excuses for that type of reference. Let's just call it what it is. It was a racially-prejudiced, stereotype statement and offensive to more than just Rihanna, because that 'image' that writer speak of does not reflect or represent how all Black female artists or Black women/girls dress. I'm African-American and never heard of that term used to define a form of style in the way some Black females/Black female artists in America dress.

Now if we talk about how Beyonce and Rihanna dress, then what about Madonna who was way before Bey or Rihanna? Madonna was the one of the main and most popular female artist of the 80s for many young girls, from many racial backgrounds who adored her. When she first started I remember she was rolling around on the floor in a sexually, suggestive way, then down the line promoted sexual gestures in her dance moves, and many in the public embraced it as part of her image with no problem. Not all of course. Many young girls wanted to be Madonna and emulated her. Madonna had no problem grabbing her crotch on television and wearing sleazy clothes. I never heard anyone referring to Madonna in a racially, offensive manner, and her Madonna's dance movements were more sexually bold than Rihanna's and in your face.

So the way Bey, Rihanna and 'some' female artists dress today, does not represent every, Black female in America. Quite frankly, the half-naked, sexual image is what some record exes in the industry promote, and the customers of those artists support it. The problem is way beyond Bey and Ri, not to mention the 'images' in the model/fashion industry, which many young girls desire to look like. Parents need to take responsibility for what they expose their daughters to , and it is their job to guide them in the direction of role models that they feel are acceptable and positive images and role models for their daughters. Bottom line, let's call it what it is, and not make excuses..the writer was wrong for calling Rihanna that nasty, racially, offensive term, and people shouldn't make excuses for a racially, offensive term you wouldn't want someone to say to you.. That's all I got for now.

[Edited 12/21/11 19:20pm]

I think I love you.

ScarletScandal said:

Unholyalliance said:

So...if it was just, for example, black people looting it would be a race thing?

wow Wow WOW!!!!

"You might have the cash, but you can't cash in your face" - Stevie Wonder