True gangsters do their thing in a boardroom.

Graycap23 said:

True gangsters do their thing in a boardroom.

Yes, like the Jesuits!

Oops, did I say THAT^?!?

TonyVanDam said:

dannyd5050 said:

The story is in one of the Beef episodes. If I remember correctly it wasn't Cypress Hill themselves but one of their fans/supporters that caught Ice Cube on the street, beat him up and stole his Westide (?) chain. Then Cypress Hill pulled out the chain in one of their concerts.

The "beat up" part is bullshit. But everything else in that story is 100% correct. One of Cypress Hill's fans snatch and stole Cube's gold chain during an all-out brawl that involved a lot of people.

YES! Cube didn't get his ass beat. That clip didn't say/show nothing but a damn chain. Anybody can snatch a chain after a sucker punch.

JoeyC said:

Things could have gotten real serious. Them Surenos(Hispanic gang members from southern california)started talking about doing real harm to Ice Cube. It started out as a rap beef but they(surenos) turned it into a racial thing(black vs mexican). The funny thing is B Real was from a blood gang and not a Sureno gang. Theres a lot of tension between some blacks and Hispanics in los Angeles. Its mainly between gang members but innocent people are getting killed as well. The Mexican Mafia controls most hispanic southern California gangs and they basically started a race war against blacks in LA. Theres more Surenos than Crips or Bloods in LA but they( C's and B's) are just as dangerous.

Snoop Dog also had some problems with this Sureno gang over some Rap lyrics. One dude from the gang posted a video on youtube. He was talking crazy about blacks, and Snoop Dog, while his homeboy was posted up with a shotgun.

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The thing I don't understand with regard to Cypress Hiil is their people are from Cuba and they part black anyway. How some Surenos gonna take up for half/mixed black and latinos against some American born blacks who don't look any different? Oh well. If Irish can hate on English or other Irish then I guess it doesn't really matter. Stupid is as stupid does.

way sad indeed. i've also felt a kinship to my latino brothers and sisters. too bad the surenos are preventing any real grass roots solidarity from taking place, at least in Cali. bangin' is SO played out, not that it was ever IN, but.... wow, grow the fuck up already!

JoeyC said:

TonyVanDam said:

The Mexicans were cool when 2pac used to mention them. But that was so 1994. Now in 2011, the Mexican gangmembers want San Diego AND Los Angeles all to themselves and are not ashamed to run the Bloods AND Crips the hell out!

They will never get Beverly Hills. EVER!

It's all about money and drugs. The hispanic gangs in Texas, California, New Mexico, Arizona, and to a lesser extent Nevada have the numbers, the drug connections(thru mexico)and the structure, therefore they are the dominate criminal group.

Over the last 20 years the hispanic population in general grew and with that, the hispanic gang population grew. A lot of the hispanic gangs in Southern California got bigger due to illegal immigration and that added to the problem.

I had a friend that got stabbed in the chest by a gang member, his lung collapsed and he almost died. The guy that stabbed him took off to Mexico and was gone for years. He finally came back to the States but he was never prosecuted. I also had a friend that got murdered in los Angeles by a gang (Florencia 13). They killed him and put his body in the trunk of his own car. This happened years ago but as far as i know no one was ever brought to justice. You hear a lot of stories about gang members killing someone and heading to Mexico so that's a problem that needs to be addressed. I'm not at all implying that illegal immigrants, immigrants in general or hispanics are bad because they're not. What i am saying is that gangs are a destructive force period, But hispanic gangs probably more so because they have more organisation than say Crips or Bloods.

As far as black gangs the Gangster Disciples seem to be the most organised and they are huge but they're not in California. Motorcycle gangs and some Japanese gangs are organised but they don't have the numbers that most street gangs do.

As far as the Racial stuff TonyVanDam is right. It didn't become a factor until the 1990's. Before that the Mexicans and Blacks (gangs)in Los Angeles got along good. That racial stuff is only a problem in Southern California. Up here in Northern California the dominate hispanic gang is the Nortenos and there is no tension between them and blacks. Thank god.

Another thing about about Hispanic gangs in California, los Angeles in particular, is that some of them have been around for a long time. One hispanic gang in LA, i thinks its called Dogpatch, has been around a little over 100 years and two other gangs(38 street, and White Fence)have been around close to 90 years. Black gangs started in LA around the 1950's but the Crips didn't start until around 1969 so the hispanic gangs have more history than the black gangs in California.

Its unfortunate that gangs have taken such a hold on society and it seems that it's only getting worse. The situation needs to be addressed by our goverment and society as a whole.

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One reason why is that Mexico will not extradite anyone facing the death penalty.

So for extradition from Mexico to the U.S., the U.S. has to agree that you will not be sentenced to death, so all you can get is life.

HotGritz said:

Wait so did Ice Cube get beat up by Cypress Hill and their homies over a damn song? I was talking shit about Joe Budden and a couple other rappers who write checks their asses can't cash and was told that my imaginary baby-daddy Ice Cube got the hell beat out of him by B-Real and his crew. This can't be right. Impossibly ghetto.

No, he didn't get beat up by Cypress Hill or a Cypress Hill "homie" or fan. The story is in Beef 2 that Cube got into a fight with Big Solo of Kam and Solo over financial issues since they were being managed by Cube at that time, it had nothing to do with Cypress Hill. Now in the documentary, Solo talked about how he whooped his ass, woke him up, and whooped his ass some more and what not, but Negroes love to exaggerate stories so I don't know how truthful that is, but the chain was either snatched, ripped off, or stolen by Solo, and it B-Real ended up taking pictures with it.