Kurt's band was done for

His marriage was on the rocks and a Divorce was the last thing he wanted

he found his stomach issues could only be numbed by heroin

He had no plans to be sober and every indicator in the world that he was suicidal.

the guy had mental problems

the guy was depressed

the guy was a great songwriter but he was crazy

the guy was a drug addict

the guy had destroyed his brain with hard drugs

the guy hated himself

the guy hated his fans

the guy hated the industry

the guy hated the world

the guy didn't believe in anything

the guy had financial problems

the guy had no real friends

the guy was insecure

the guy married an unsupportive, crazy bitch

the guy maybe thought he had said it all

the guy maybe thought his time was the early-90s, no need to go beyond that

the guy was the original emo

the guy maybe thought he would be ok in other dimension

the guy blew his brains off

FACE IT

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Kurt felt the entire world hate him. Not surprised he would blow his brains off.

TonyVanDam said:

Gunsnhalen said:

Tony, some people have issues. And some people take there lives... not everyone who dies was killed, or had Illuminati ties. I don't believe everything the media tells me, but Kurt had issues... and he was a Heroin addict.

Yes, Kurt was a drug addict. But he was going to do something about it and get somber, hence why he filed for divorce from Courtney.

He never made it to rehab.

He left a rehab(early) in LA and flew back to Seattle a few days before he was found dead. They say he had enough heroin in him to kill him instantly, there is no way he could have pulled the trigger. I read a book about it and it was pretty convincing that he was murdered. They say even Courtney's father thinks she had something to do with it.

rmartin70 said:

TonyVanDam said:

Yes, Kurt was a drug addict. But he was going to do something about it and get somber, hence why he filed for divorce from Courtney.

He never made it to rehab.

He left a rehab(early) in LA and flew back to Seattle a few days before he was found dead. They say he had enough heroin in him to kill him instantly, there is no way he could have pulled the trigger. I read a book about it and it was pretty convincing that he was murdered. They say even Courtney's father thinks she had something to do with it.

Interesting.

nursev said:

She's always had a creepy, crazy vibe. She didn't kill him, but I think her mentalness contributed to his.

I agree. It sure didn't make his instability stable. In fact, it made him even crazier. Crazy folks mixing together don't always work well together...

Timmy84 said:

nursev said:

She's always had a creepy, crazy vibe. She didn't kill him, but I think her mentalness contributed to his.

I agree. It sure didn't make his instability stable. In fact, it made him even crazier. Crazy folks mixing together don't always work well together...

Courtney's a sweetheart when she's clean. It's just the drugs & booze.

Kurt was crazy as hell.

She may have contributed to his state of mind at the time, but I highly doubt she had anything to do with his death otherwise.

Having said that, I DO believe that she benefitted from unreleased Nirvana/Kurt Cobain songs that she rebranded as Hole songs. Her band had a creative peak in the years following Kurt's death.

Se7en said:

She may have contributed to his state of mind at the time, but I highly doubt she had anything to do with his death otherwise.

Having said that, I DO believe that she benefitted from unreleased Nirvana/Kurt Cobain songs that she rebranded as Hole songs. Her band had a creative peak in the years following Kurt's death.

It is not true the Hole songs were written by Kurt Cobain and Nirvana. Whatever you think about Courtney, this is insulting to the other members of Hole. Eric Erlandson, the guitarist was a brilliant musician and songwriter who wrote a lot of the best Hole stuff. Some of the songs on Live Through This have a Nirvana like sound, but on Celebrity Skin who is Hole's best selling album and very acclaimed, the songs have more of a mainstream pop/rock sound echoing Fleetwood Mac (nothing like Nirvana). It's not like Kurt is the only one who can write loud/soft rock songs. Many people have written in that same style since. Yes, the fact that Kurt died and that was highly publicized got the media to pay more attention to Hole's music, but Hole's songs are not unreleased Nirvana songs written by Kurt. They were written collectively by all the members of Hole.

musicjunky318 said:

Timmy84 said:

I agree. It sure didn't make his instability stable. In fact, it made him even crazier. Crazy folks mixing together don't always work well together...

Courtney's a sweetheart when she's clean. It's just the drugs & booze.

Kurt was crazy as hell.

This can apply to anyone, famous or not.

Glindathegood said:

Se7en said:

She may have contributed to his state of mind at the time, but I highly doubt she had anything to do with his death otherwise.

Having said that, I DO believe that she benefitted from unreleased Nirvana/Kurt Cobain songs that she rebranded as Hole songs. Her band had a creative peak in the years following Kurt's death.

Eric Erlandson, the guitarist was a brilliant musician and songwriter who wrote a lot of the best Hole stuff.

He is great.

TheDigitalGardener said:

musicjunky318 said:

Courtney's a sweetheart when she's clean. It's just the drugs & booze.

Kurt was crazy as hell.

This can apply to anyone, famous or not.

JoeTyler said:

the guy had mental problems

the guy was depressed

the guy was a great songwriter but he was crazy

the guy was a drug addict

the guy had destroyed his brain with hard drugs

the guy hated himself

the guy hated his fans

the guy hated the industry

the guy hated the world

the guy didn't believe in anything

the guy had financial problems

the guy had no real friends

the guy was insecure

the guy married an unsupportive, crazy bitch

the guy maybe thought he had said it all

the guy maybe thought his time was the early-90s, no need to go beyond that

the guy was the original emo

the guy maybe thought he would be ok in other dimension

the guy blew his brains off

FACE IT

[Edited 12/17/11 15:40pm]

wtf. lol.

Some must be forgetting this same man tried to demap himself in Rome not long before he blew his head off. And lets face it, it would've been way more simple to pump Kurt full of dope than to put a shotgun in his hand, dont you reckon, cause NO ONE would've questioned kurt cobain ODing again. Though there's nothing worse than trying to kill yourself with drugs and have some dogooder revive you time after time. Blow your head off and no one can put humpty dumpty together again.

Here's Kurt filmed on Feb 6th 94 chatting to the Buzzcock's backstage. Sad.

musicjunky318 said:

intothelight said:

committed suicide and left no prints? yeah right. There WAS NO INVESTIGATION AT ALL! They presumed straight away it was suicide. Have you seen smackheads? Their hands are filthy, greasy and leave prints everywhere. The shotgun would of been FULL of them yet NOTHING. Explain that one.

Watch the documentary Kurt and courtney. The guy who said she offered him 50gs to top Kurt PASSED lie detector test and was found dead 3 weeks after going on camera. I study Body language and i am SURE he was being truthful. His vid may be on youtube. He says 'i know who did it' then oh no i cant say more. The bl shows NO deceipt.

NEVER beileve what you are told by media or PRESUME anything. Study any celeb death if you are interested in what really happened.

Why would she want her husband and the father of her daughter dead?

[Edited 12/16/11 12:30pm]

She was said by some to be afraid that Kurt would divulge that he really wrote most of the material she was going to be releasing in the next few years.

And she had to be thinking twice a day that he was growing tired of her self-indulgent ways and was about to leave her...

...and take the money. And prestige - "where is my crown bitches?"

musicjunky318 said:

Why would she want her husband and the father of her daughter dead?

[Edited 12/16/11 12:30pm]

i dont know that she wanted him dead but they were both looking into divorce proceedings. i think thats why alot of people think she had him killed; if they divorce her share is limited, if he's dead she gets everything like she has done.

wavesofbliss said:

i dont know that she wanted him dead but they were both looking into divorce proceedings. i think thats why alot of people think she had him killed; if they divorce her share is limited, if he's dead she gets everything like she has done.

I did read that the both of them had reached the end of their rope as far as their marriage went. I can believe that the reason people believe she played a part was because Courtney decided to wait until Kurt was dead to receive everything.