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Reply #90 posted 12/01/11 11:47am

Timmy84

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"21" -- Adele

There really is no competition for "Album of The Year" this year. Releases like this do not happen very often. There have been years when an album like this gets snubbed, not this year.

Yeah that is a surefire thing.

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Reply #91 posted 12/01/11 11:53am

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thank god no beyonce this year, now we dont have to see her ultra sound incorporated into the performance

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Reply #92 posted 12/01/11 11:54am

Graycap23

V10LETBLUES said:

"21" -- Adele

There really is no competition for "Album of The Year" this year. Releases like this do not happen very often. There have been years when an album like this gets snubbed, not this year.

I'll take Mint Condition's "7" over that 9 times a week.

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Reply #93 posted 12/01/11 12:02pm

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Graycap23 said:

V10LETBLUES said:

"21" -- Adele

There really is no competition for "Album of The Year" this year. Releases like this do not happen very often. There have been years when an album like this gets snubbed, not this year.

I'll take Mint Condition's "7" over that 9 times a week.

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Reply #94 posted 12/01/11 12:54pm

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Best New Artist should be renamed Artists That We Just Discovered.

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Reply #95 posted 12/01/11 12:56pm

Timmy84

smoothcriminal12 said:

Best New Artist should be renamed Artists That We Just Discovered.

nod Bon Iver was out for four years lmao

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Reply #96 posted 12/01/11 1:02pm

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Timmy84 said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

Best New Artist should be renamed Artists That We Just Discovered.

nod Bon Iver was out for four years lmao

Remember Esperanza last year? smh.

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Reply #97 posted 12/01/11 1:06pm

Musicslave

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Best New Artist should be renamed Artists That We Just Discovered.

lol lol lol Ain't that the truth! I think they take in consideration when the artist becomes more known to the general public. I don't agree with it but I recall reading something pertaining to that years ago when another artist was questioned when they were already out previously.

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Reply #98 posted 12/01/11 1:07pm

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Graycap23 said:

V10LETBLUES said:

"21" -- Adele

There really is no competition for "Album of The Year" this year. Releases like this do not happen very often. There have been years when an album like this gets snubbed, not this year.

I'll take Mint Condition's "7" over that 9 times a week.

Well I would as well.

however... her album compared to her peers is more deserving of the award.... Yea it ran for 9 weeks but its a hell of alot better than most things that run for 9 weeks... just saying... Her genre as well as her material is something that is unheard of being nominated for something like the grammys.

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Reply #99 posted 12/01/11 1:11pm

Graycap23

mjscarousal said:

Graycap23 said:

I'll take Mint Condition's "7" over that 9 times a week.

Well I would as well.

however... her album compared to her peers is more deserving of the award.... Yea it ran for 9 weeks but its a hell of alot better than most things that run for 9 weeks... just saying... Her genre as well as her material is something that is unheard of being nominated for something like the grammys.

I'm not sure what u mean by "her peers"?

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Reply #100 posted 12/01/11 1:13pm

Timmy84

smoothcriminal12 said:

Timmy84 said:

nod Bon Iver was out for four years lmao

Remember Esperanza last year? smh.

Yes! lol

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Reply #101 posted 12/01/11 1:51pm

Musicslave

Was "Watch The Throne" CD packaging really something special?

I noticed that it's nominated for Best Recording Package:

60. Best Recording Package

Chickenfoot III

Todd Gallopo, art director (Chickenfoot)
[eOne Music]

Good Luck & True Love

Sarah Dodds & Shauna Dodds, art directors (Reckless Kelly)
[No Big Deal Records]

Rivers And Homes

Jonathan Dagan, art director (J.Viewz)
[Jorjia Music]

Scenes From The Suburbs

Vincent Morisset, art director (Arcade Fire)
[Merge Records]

Watch The Throne

Virgil Abloh, art director (Jay-Z & Kanye West)
[Def Jam]
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Reply #102 posted 12/01/11 2:23pm

mjscarousal

Graycap23 said:

mjscarousal said:

Well I would as well.

however... her album compared to her peers is more deserving of the award.... Yea it ran for 9 weeks but its a hell of alot better than most things that run for 9 weeks... just saying... Her genre as well as her material is something that is unheard of being nominated for something like the grammys.

I'm not sure what u mean by "her peers"?

Good point... with this particular album, she became a pop star and she became a peer of the niche of pop stars ex. Rihana, Beyonce, Katy Perry etc The amount of fame and success she received with her second album changed her status and she now competes with other commercial artists..that might change with her next album...

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Reply #103 posted 12/01/11 2:25pm

Timmy84

^ Her next album is supposed to go left-field... I'm actually excited about it.

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Reply #104 posted 12/01/11 3:35pm

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Reply #105 posted 12/01/11 3:40pm

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"Hate On Me" singer Jill Scott, who copped a Soul Train Award for Best Female R&B and Soul Artist last month, has some ish to say about the 2011 Grammy nominations that were just revealed last night. Mainly about the fact that neither she nor her homie Miguel got one.

She tweeted just hours ago:

0 nominations. I'm speechless. Cover of Billboard, #1 cd in the country, tied/broke the record for Urban radio. Ok...so...ok. Wow.....

I don't need a Grammy. I deserve it & I'm clear on that. The Light of the Sun was/is magical . We were lifted & filled w/ truth. I ❤ it.

No Miguel?!?!? Huh!!!? Again appalled.

excuse me?!?!? No "Love on Top"? This can't be right...

After responding to uplifting messages from her fans, she said she's keeping it moving, and happy for her friends who did grab nods:

My head is up. My son is healthy, my family is loving & so are my fans. God is real. Disappointments too still I come thru like a Kung foo.

Thank you all for ur kind words of encouragement. It's fine. I had a moment of wtf...

At least my girls were nominated. Congrats Ledisi and Marsha

That Light of the Sun album did go hard though...

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Reply #106 posted 12/01/11 3:56pm

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LMFAOOOO at miguel and jill scott thinking they was going to get nominated. I love miguel album and jill is cool but I didn't like her recent album. They are not out there in the public so they should not be surprised it's clear the grammy's are going with a popularity contest. But like I said before they pick who we don't expect and even with adele nominated for album of the year I would not be surprised if she don't get that one I want her to but I won't be shocked. The grammy's are usually left field with the album of the year winner eek

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Reply #107 posted 12/01/11 4:04pm

Timmy84

babybugz said:

LMFAOOOO at miguel and jill scott thinking they was going to get nominated. I love miguel album and jill is cool but I didn't like her recent album. They are not out there in the public so they should not be surprised it's clear the grammy's are going with a popularity concert. But like I said before they pick who we don't expect and even with adele nominated for album of the year I would not be surprised if she don't get that one I want her to but I won't be shocked. The grammy's are usually left field with the album of the year winner eek

Yeah it seem like it's been that way since 1990.

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Reply #108 posted 12/01/11 4:08pm

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Timmy84 said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

Remember Esperanza last year? smh.

Yes! lol

The Best New Artist category is something the grammy's either should abandon, or learn it properly because they screw it up every freaking year, ever since they disqualified a sure winner in Richard Marx because he recorded a song a year ealier on a soundtrack for "Nothing in Common" which no one heard but RIchard Marx and myself, for a movie that very few even saw. And then nominates Cyndi Lauper years before despite her being in Blue Angel who had released an album prior years. They love to cherry pick this category.

Ad for the rest of the nods, the Grammy's are so industry its fucking nuts, but its always been that way, just now its so much more polarized, even THE TRENDY artists like Bon Iver and others are see through with the nominations, the grammys want to appear to be "down" its all label BS, as For Jill Scott thinking she deserved an award, grow up! And yes I FELT Prince needed to grow up when he said it bothered him losing to U2, its not like U lost to Justin Beiber, it was U fucking 2.


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Reply #109 posted 12/01/11 4:25pm

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It was bolded when I copied and past

Grammy Snubs: Beyonce And Britney Were Robbed, Kanye West And Lady Gaga Should Have Gotten Even More Love.


Last night's announcement of the nominees for the 2012 Grammys came with them few surprises: Kanye West earned a leading seven nominations for his solo work on My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy and the Jay-Z collaboration Watch the Throne and Adele's mega-selling 21 and its ubiquitous lead single "Rolling in the Deep" dominated the top categories. There were, however, several notable snubs among the nominations, the most glaring of which we've cataloged below

Kanye West's My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy, Album of the Year

How Kanye West could score the most nominations, including Best Song for "All of the Lights," and not see his critically adored Fantasy nominated for Album of the Year is beyond us. The set enjoys a 94 out of 100 rating on album review aggregator Metacritic, a full 18 points better than the highest-rated album to make the Grammy cut (Adele's 21 with a 76).

Lady Gaga's "The Edge of Glory," Song of the Year

Lady Gaga has released so many singles off her hit album Born This Way that we sometimes lose track, but the one track that has really stuck is "The Edge of Glory." Lyrically inspired by the death of her grandfather, the song features soaring hooks and the most anthemic chorus to hit Top 40 radio this year. That the Academy chose to honor only four songs with nominations in this category rather than the usual five while overlooking the highlight of an album it chose to award a nomination for Album of the Year is silly business.

Read on for more.


Beyonce's 4, Best R&B Album

Perhaps the Recording Academy thinks Beyonce has enough Grammys? It would be easy enough to make a case that 4 should be a contender for Album of the Year – it's Metacritic rating of 73 is better than four of the nominated albums, and while music critics are far from definitive, consensus acclaim shouldn't be overlooked– but we would have settled for Best R&B Album because, well, it's the perfect R&B album. On 4 Beyonce eschewed club bangers for soulful and complex ballads and insanely catchy mid-tempo jams (like "Love on Top" and "Countdown"). In its review, New York Magazine commented on the album's throw-back vibe, writing, "There’s a streak of nostalgia running through the sound, whether it’s the kind of traditionalist R&B that sells Adele albums or the cheery funk of a track like 'Love on Top,' which feels as cozy as seventies Stevie Wonder or eighties Michael Jackson." And when it comes to R&B, does a higher compliment exist than a comparison to seventies Stevie Wonder and eighties Michael Jackson?

Britney Spears' "Till The World Ends," Best Dance Recording

Britney Spears' Femme Fatale album brought her the best reviews of her career, earning the pop superstar the same Metacritic rating as Rihanna's Album of the Year-nominated Loud, and became the first album of Spears' 12-year multi-platinum career to yield three top-ten hits ("Till The World Ends," "I Wanna Go," and the #1 "Hold It Against Me"). "Till The World Ends" was one of the year's biggest radio hits, giving Spears the largest weekly audience of her career in mid-May, and topped Billboard's Hot Dance Club Play chart the week of May 28. Spears' sole Grammy win came in the Best Dance Recording category in 2005 for "Toxic," and she should have scored a nod in the same category this year because, as Rolling Stone said in its three-and-a-half star review, "You want a party song, call a partier. Written by Ke$ha (with Max Martin and Dr. Luke), the second single from Femme Fatale is ginormously pumping uber-Euro uber-disco: sky-sucking synth streaks, a beat that sounds like blimps f**king and a thousand shirtless drunken sailors chanting along on the chorus." In dance music language, that's a pretty huge compliment.

Taylor Swift's Speak Now, Album of the Year
Taylor Swift may have caught a case of the Beyonces. Swift swept through the 2009 Grammys and took home the Album of the Year prize for Fearless, in addition to three other prizes in the country categories. With that win, she became the first female country soloist to win the top prize at the Grammys. And, sure, Speak is up for a number of country-centric prizes this year and that's nothing to scoff at. But the acclaimed set failed to receive a nod for Album of the Year, despite widespread and near-universal praise. Perhaps the Academy missed all of the subtleties that the New York Times picked up on in its rave review. "It’s [Speak Now] the most savage of her career, and also the most musically diverse. And it’s excellent too, possibly her best," the Times writes. "In these new songs relationships are no longer fantasies, or neutered; they’re lived-in places, where bodies share space."

http://newsroom.mtv.com/2011/12/01/g...aga-more-love/

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Reply #110 posted 12/01/11 4:36pm

Timmy84

I was actually surprised Taylor didn't get an AOTY nod...

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Reply #111 posted 12/01/11 4:51pm

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Reply #112 posted 12/01/11 7:30pm

mjscarousal

babybugz said:

LMFAOOOO at miguel and jill scott thinking they was going to get nominated. I love miguel album and jill is cool but I didn't like her recent album. They are not out there in the public so they should not be surprised it's clear the grammy's are going with a popularity concert. But like I said before they pick who we don't expect and even with adele nominated for album of the year I would not be surprised if she don't get that one I want her to but I won't be shocked. The grammy's are usually left field with the album of the year winner eek

I agree with that HOWEVER.... if the grammys are going to nominate R.Kelly and especially Raphael then they could have DEFINITLY AT LEAST gave Jill or Miguel a nod... Miguel as well as Jill have equally done way better than Raphael on the radio... I mean I aint mad at the nod... I love Raphael but based on this years nominations it seems the Grammys are going for popularity and to pist people off as usual

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Reply #113 posted 12/01/11 8:02pm

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mjscarousal said:

babybugz said:

LMFAOOOO at miguel and jill scott thinking they was going to get nominated. I love miguel album and jill is cool but I didn't like her recent album. They are not out there in the public so they should not be surprised it's clear the grammy's are going with a popularity concert. But like I said before they pick who we don't expect and even with adele nominated for album of the year I would not be surprised if she don't get that one I want her to but I won't be shocked. The grammy's are usually left field with the album of the year winner eek

I agree with that HOWEVER.... if the grammys are going to nominate R.Kelly and especially Raphael then they could have DEFINITLY AT LEAST gave Jill or Miguel a nod... Miguel as well as Jill have equally done way better than Raphael on the radio... I mean I aint mad at the nod... I love Raphael but based on this years nominations it seems the Grammys are going for popularity and to pist people off as usual

Well DUH lol.

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Reply #114 posted 12/01/11 8:56pm

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Identity said:

Clearly missjillschott has no concept of the industry she was in, if she thought a bunch of awards were about to fall in her lap, then she has no damn sense.

2012: The Queen Returns
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Reply #115 posted 12/01/11 9:17pm

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People need to think before they twitter, cause both of these 2 come off as self centered asses before their PR team made them clean up their mess.

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Reply #116 posted 12/01/11 9:31pm

Timmy84

RKJCNE said:

Identity said:

Clearly missjillschott has no concept of the industry she was in, if she thought a bunch of awards were about to fall in her lap, then she has no damn sense.

Yeah and then gonna act like that didn't affect her later on. You know she's still bitter lol

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Reply #117 posted 12/02/11 7:28am

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Timmy84 said:

RKJCNE said:

Clearly missjillschott has no concept of the industry she was in, if she thought a bunch of awards were about to fall in her lap, then she has no damn sense.

Yeah and then gonna act like that didn't affect her later on. You know she's still bitter lol

And what do all those accomplishments even mean? Taylor Swift sold a million in a week, Kanye has universal critical acclaim, Foster The People were the hyped up band of the year. Where are their album nods?

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Reply #118 posted 12/02/11 9:24am

Timmy84

RKJCNE said:

Timmy84 said:

Yeah and then gonna act like that didn't affect her later on. You know she's still bitter lol

And what do all those accomplishments even mean? Taylor Swift sold a million in a week, Kanye has universal critical acclaim, Foster The People were the hyped up band of the year. Where are their album nods?

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Taylor and Kanye are up for country and rap album of the year but yeah good point.

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Reply #119 posted 12/02/11 10:30am

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Timmy84 said:

RKJCNE said:

Clearly missjillschott has no concept of the industry she was in, if she thought a bunch of awards were about to fall in her lap, then she has no damn sense.

Yeah and then gonna act like that didn't affect her later on. You know she's still bitter lol

Jill is becoming the female Kanye with her attitude, but i think she's worse. I used to be subscribed to her... but all she does it whine. She needs to grow up and get over it lol

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