Militant said:

You go outside of the big cities in the US and it's pretty much ALL they listen to, lol.

Wrong..

tinaz said:

Militant said:

You go outside of the big cities in the US and it's pretty much ALL they listen to, lol.

Wrong..

That's pretty much ALL they play in South Carolina

aardvark15 said:

tinaz said:

Wrong..

That's pretty much ALL they play in South Carolina

South carolina doesnt count...

For real country music fans, this was the best country song of the last decade.

728huey said:

For real country music fans, this was the best country song of the last decade.

Absolutely!

MickyDolenz said:

sextonseven said:

You said you don't see the point in getting a cellphone because they cost too much. I'm telling you they don't.

I said I don't see the point of texting and that people should send a telegram instead and Vainandy said they should just call the person and tell them what they want. I don't want or need a cell phone. I barely use the house phone.

There's also the old-fashioned concept of sending someone an e-mail instead of texting. Anyone, remember that?

My mom lives in NC and where she lives, country is not popular

MickyDolenz said:

sextonseven said:

You said you don't see the point in getting a cellphone because they cost too much. I'm telling you they don't.

I said I don't see the point of texting and that people should send a telegram instead and Vainandy said they should just call the person and tell them what they want. I don't want or need a cell phone. I barely use the house phone.

You said:

MickyDolenz said:

People pay hundreds of dollars a month for a tiny phone and type stuff that's probably impossible to read, like a CD booklet.

I'm saying cellphones don't have to cost that much at all.

sextonseven said:

MickyDolenz said:

You said:

MickyDolenz said:

People pay hundreds of dollars a month for a tiny phone and type stuff that's probably impossible to read, like a CD booklet.

I'm saying cellphones don't have to cost that much at all.

That was a statement about people who pay a lot of money for cell phone service. The people I've come across all have high bills. I didn't say that was my reason for not getting a phone. You must have misread the comment. I don't care if a cell phone was free and using it is free, I still don't want one. Just like I don't download music, pay or illegal. It's not for me.

MickyDolenz said:

I don't care if a cell phone was free and using it is free, I still don't want one.

This is what you should have said in the first place instead of going on about how cellphones are expensive.

00s country is a disgrace

sextonseven said:

MickyDolenz said:

I don't care if a cell phone was free and using it is free, I still don't want one.

This is what you should have said in the first place instead of going on about how cellphones are expensive.

I didn't use the word "expensive", you did. I said people spend hundreds of dollars to use a phone, which is true. I only said that once, you started saying that phones are not expensive, which has nothing to do with me saying that people spend hundreds of dollars for phone service. I didn't say everybody who has a cell phone pays that. Which is why I replied that both Goodwill and Neiman Marcus sell clothes. I initially responded to someone saying they never owned a cell phone, and said I've never owned one, nor a beeper. I never gave a reason why I didn't have a phone, so I don't know why you made a big deal over nothing.

JoeTyler said:

00s country is a disgrace

It really is. I'm ashamed to say it's country. It's not. Like I said, people are leading the blind.

MickyDolenz said:

sextonseven said:

This is what you should have said in the first place instead of going on about how cellphones are expensive.

I didn't use the word "expensive", you did. I said people spend hundreds of dollars to use a phone, which is true. I only said that once, you started saying that phones are not expensive, which has nothing to do with me saying that people spend hundreds of dollars for phone service. I didn't say everybody who has a cell phone pays that. Which is why I replied that both Goodwill and Neiman Marcus sell clothes. I initially responded to someone saying they never owned a cell phone, and said I've never owned one, nor a beeper. I never gave a reason why I didn't have a phone, so I don't know why you made a big deal over nothing.

You didn't say people spend hundreds of dollars on cellphone bills once, you said it twice. So of course people are going to think that's why you don't have a cellphone even though you never said what your specific reason was.

NDRU said:

Are people really saying country music is only popular where people don't have the internet? And if they had the internet they would stop listening to Taylor Swift & Keith Urban and listen to, what, Rhianna and Lil Wayne instead--and that that would make more sense?!

You know? The more I hear this, the more I think it's a myth! I guess some folks are like "well country fans are dumb to know what the internet is." Y'all some biased motherfuckers.

I know this thread is about country music, but the side discussion about cell phones is cracking me up .. It's like watching a couple deaf old ladies argue on a park bench.

Timmy84 said:

NDRU said:

Are people really saying country music is only popular where people don't have the internet? And if they had the internet they would stop listening to Taylor Swift & Keith Urban and listen to, what, Rhianna and Lil Wayne instead--and that that would make more sense?!

You know? The more I hear this, the more I think it's a myth! I guess some folks are like "well country fans are dumb to know what the internet is." Y'all some biased motherfuckers.

If you replaced country with ghetto, this thread would be one hell of a hot mess. Its amazing how stereotypes play out on here sometimes.

Maybe country music is selling so much is cause those hillbillies they keep buying the disc thinking something is wrong with the phonograph they be puttin them on.

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lazycrockett said:

Timmy84 said:

You know? The more I hear this, the more I think it's a myth! I guess some folks are like "well country fans are dumb to know what the internet is." Y'all some biased motherfuckers.

If you replaced country with ghetto, this thread would be one hell of a hot mess. Its amazing how stereotypes play out on here sometimes.

Maybe country music is selling so much is cause those hillbillies they keep buying the disc thinking something is wrong with the phonograph they be puttin them on.

[Edited 12/1/11 21:26pm]

I was waiting for someone to call that. I was reading these responses thinking how it play if you replaced one stereotype for another.

I grew up on Disco, R&B, and Adult Contemporary music. I wasn't introduced to Country until I was 20 years old. I live in a large city, I have a cell phone and a computer, and I don't shop at Walmart or Kmart. I love Country music because of the lyrics, just like any other song from any other genre. If the lyrics strike me, then I relate. It's as simple as that. Doesn't mean I'm some hillbilly idiot who has no money or whatever the fuck some of these people are saying. This is the bullshit that goes on here at good old prince.org. The most racist things can be said about white people and nobody does a damned thing about it.

Country seems to be the music that most people listen to here or there, but on the sly. Even most black folks I know have a favorite country song regardless of what else they listen to. So yes, country is MAD popular, and as a country artist myself, I couldn't be happier about it!

YES! LOVE me some Hayes Carll! "She Left Me For Jesus" was the first i heard, but just about every song is great.

And for those of you who think that only folks who live out in the sticks listen to country music, read this article: www.bizjournals.com/nashv...s-the.html The tl;dr jist of it is that country music sells better in NYC than it does in Nashville.

Timmy84 said: Could you really call it country music though? It's kinda like some albums typecasted as R&B but they really ain't. Shania Twain to me wasn't country, she's a pop-rock artist in a country label. That's what country purists used to argue about her and Garth Brooks and I'm seeing their point. The original country was the best country. Shania Twain, Garth Brooks, Rascal Flatts (yuck) and Taylor Swift (double yuck) give country a bad name. Same with psuedo redneck Toby Keith and pop savant Keith Urban. Calling any of them country acts puts a big bad hole in country music. I think those who buy it expecting REAL country should be disappointed in the results so I can't explain why they keep getting bought. Oh yeah you can get the albums for a discount price of $7.99 at your local Walmart. Silly me.

But what is "real country music?" And why is it people who rarely listen to country anyway that go on about it? Why is is okay for other genres to co-opt different sounds, like rock co-opting rap, rap co=opting club music, or jazz co=opting bossa music in the 60's, but it's not okay for rock sounds to find their way into country music (especially now that the generation of musicians and producers making the music are at an age where they grew up on rock as well as country?)

I've got news for you, country-pop has existed since the dawn of the genre. Hank Williams, Johnny Cash, Loretta Lynn, THEY WERE ALL POP SINGERS. A hell of a lot more pop than Bill Joe Creamcheese and the Sisterfuckers making bluegrass music in their shacks. Country music has ALWAYS co-opted pop sounds, and to pretend otherwise is not knowing the history of the music.

And Keith Urban is amazing. I bet if I put on a DVD of one of his tours, pretty much anyone in this thread would sit down and watch it, because he's a great singer, player, entertainer. He's the total package. Not so much most of hte other folks you mentioned, but leave Keith alone!! D-:<

Timmy84 said: Are people really saying country music is only popular where people don't have the internet? And if they had the internet they would stop listening to Taylor Swift & Keith Urban and listen to, what, Rhianna and Lil Wayne instead--and that that would make more sense?! You know? The more I hear this, the more I think it's a myth! I guess some folks are like "well country fans are dumb to know what the internet is." Y'all some biased motherfuckers.

I was gonna say what Lazy and GetAway said. There's some serious ignorance going on here and it makes me kind of sad to see, especially here on the Org which usually seems to be a bastion of thought here in this ol' interwebz of ours.

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lazycrockett said:

Timmy84 said:

You know? The more I hear this, the more I think it's a myth! I guess some folks are like "well country fans are dumb to know what the internet is." Y'all some biased motherfuckers.

If you replaced country with ghetto, this thread would be one hell of a hot mess. Its amazing how stereotypes play out on here sometimes.

Maybe country music is selling so much is cause those hillbillies they keep buying the disc thinking something is wrong with the phonograph they be puttin them on.

[Edited 12/1/11 21:26pm]

I agree! I like some country too. I hate that it's even associated as something we ain't supposed to listen to. Fuck that.

guitarslinger44 said:

Country seems to be the music that most people listen to here or there, but on the sly. Even most black folks I know have a favorite country song regardless of what else they listen to. So yes, country is MAD popular, and as a country artist myself, I couldn't be happier about it!

lazycrockett said: Everyone is saying that the "country" doesnt have internet access, well according to what Ive researched thats just not right. http://upload.wikimedia.o...Ch3e3d.png Now I don't know how many households dont have internet, but its there for the taking. Plus being a huge true country fan, I blame Garth Brooks for the desctrution of true country. Thank god Hayes Carll is out there making great country tunage. [Edited 11/29/11 17:54pm]

YES! LOVE me some Hayes Carll! "She Left Me For Jesus" was the first i heard, but just about every song is great.

And for those of you who think that only folks who live out in the sticks listen to country music, read this article: www.bizjournals.com/nashv...s-the.html The tl;dr jist of it is that country music sells better in NYC than it does in Nashville.

But what is "real country music?" And why is it people who rarely listen to country anyway that go on about it? Why is is okay for other genres to co-opt different sounds, like rock co-opting rap, rap co=opting club music, or jazz co=opting bossa music in the 60's, but it's not okay for rock sounds to find their way into country music (especially now that the generation of musicians and producers making the music are at an age where they grew up on rock as well as country?)

I've got news for you, country-pop has existed since the dawn of the genre. Hank Williams, Johnny Cash, Loretta Lynn, THEY WERE ALL POP SINGERS. A hell of a lot more pop than Bill Joe Creamcheese and the Sisterfuckers making bluegrass music in their shacks. Country music has ALWAYS co-opted pop sounds, and to pretend otherwise is not knowing the history of the music.

And Keith Urban is amazing. I bet if I put on a DVD of one of his tours, pretty much anyone in this thread would sit down and watch it, because he's a great singer, player, entertainer. He's the total package. Not so much most of hte other folks you mentioned, but leave Keith alone!! D-:<

Timmy84 said: Are people really saying country music is only popular where people don't have the internet? And if they had the internet they would stop listening to Taylor Swift & Keith Urban and listen to, what, Rhianna and Lil Wayne instead--and that that would make more sense?! You know? The more I hear this, the more I think it's a myth! I guess some folks are like "well country fans are dumb to know what the internet is." Y'all some biased motherfuckers.

I was gonna say what Lazy and GetAway said. There's some serious ignorance going on here and it makes me kind of sad to see, especially here on the Org which usually seems to be a bastion of thought here in this ol' interwebz of ours.

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Yeah I agree with the last part. I do see the legends you list as having some pop influences but to me they kept the spirit of country going and brought it to the masses.

Projecting much?

Maybe wattered down country-pop is to the bible belt, what the mixture of hitparade R and B and dance is to people in the cities?

You both listen to shallow, designer-pop and blame eachother for that?

Taylor Swift = the white Rihanna

Rihanna = the black Taylor Swift

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http://www.youtube.com/wa...MdH3PSlzY0

RodeoSchro said:

ThreadBare said:

Yes, country REALLY is that popular. Its biggest fans practically make a hajj to Nashville every year for something called Fan Fair. They hear and meet their favorite stars, attend the CMAS. Blew me away when I first moved here, because they FILL the downtown area. And foe some of them, it's the only vacation they'll take in a year. They save their money all year to go. If someone were to make the claim that rap is most popular with blacks who lack libraries and schools, it might make clearer the absurdity of the implication that country is most popular with whites who lack cells and PC's. And, yes, Purple Rain IS country. If P made another good country ballad on another commercial album, he'd be No. 1 at the bank again.

you're high on crack

PR is ROCK

unless you are sayin' that rock is basically country

do you think that Stairway to Heaven is also country??? just curious...

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purplethunder3121 said:

728huey said:

For real country music fans, this was the best country song of the last decade.

Absolutely!

I wonder if any of the country fans know about the original NIN version of "Hurt"?

JoeTyler said:

ThreadBare said:

JoeTyler said:

you're high on crack

PR is ROCK

unless you are sayin' that rock is basically country

do you think that Stairway to Heaven is also country??? just curious...

[Edited 12/3/11 5:06am]

I know country and rock. Trust me: it's a country song. Prince's delivery is church in parts. But the breaks, the chords, the BGVs, the vamp -- all country. I'll compromise and say country rock, friend.

ok, let's say a soul/rock arena hymn influenced by country-rock and Bob Seger, lol