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Would you say Maurice White is one of the greatest rnb singers of all time? Up there with Stevie and Marvin and Sam? "Lack of home training crosses all boundaries." | |
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Yes, but not as recognized. Maurice was known as a member of Earth Wind and Fire first.
Stevie and Marvin and Sam were basically always solo acts and thats were they found their greatest sucess.
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^^Sam wasn't always a solo act. He started out in the Highway QC's and the Soul Stirrers. You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton | |
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Perfect response elem.....
I always felt that Maurice could hold his own with some of the great vocalists, but because he was part of a group that had 2 lead singers, he would never be as well known as Stevie or Marvin or Sam because he was Earth Wind and Fire first and foremost before he was Maurice White....and so most people would not even know who he was...other than true music aficionados | |
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I would NOT say that. | |
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It depends on how you look at this. I can't see Maurice as an "r&b singer" because he's much more than just a singer or vocalist. He's definitely one of the great musician legends that's still living...though not completely healthy, but he's still with us. I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince. | |
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Maurice has MS, correct? so he no longer sings at all? Was Phillip Bailey the other lead singer of EWF? Also, did Maurice write all of EWF's songs? "Lack of home training crosses all boundaries." | |
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No he has Parkingson's disease. I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince. | |
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No, he cowrote the bulk of the band's catalog. | |
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Listen to the early EW&F tracks and you will hear a second falsetto layered under or matching phillip's vocals..that's not Phillip..thats Maurice. Phillip himself said that Maurice could hit any note vocally that he can. Maurice is one of the greatest vocalists of our time. One of the most underrated ever. "I wasn't invited to shake hands with Hitler, but I wasn't invited to the White House to shake hands with the President, either" ~ Jesse Owens | |
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I thought that was Jessica Cleaves doing the harmonies with Phillip. You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton | |
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MickyDolenz said:
I thought that was Jessica Cleaves doing the harmonies with Phillip. She is on a few..but on most like Keep your head to the sky..Maurice is up there. "I wasn't invited to shake hands with Hitler, but I wasn't invited to the White House to shake hands with the President, either" ~ Jesse Owens | |
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who is jessica cleaves "Lack of home training crosses all boundaries." | |
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Maurice definately had a set of pipes on him. Although I love Phillip's voice, the overwhelming majority of my favorite EW&F songs had Maurice doing the lead vocals. "It's not nice to fuck with K.B.! All you haters will see!" - Kitbradley
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yup. lord knows i loves me some 'reasons', 'fantasy' and 'i'll write a song', but i also loves me some 'love's holiday', 'it's all about love', 'shining star', 'that's the way of the world' and on and on.
maurice could put it down, too. | |
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Phillip's voice was too high for me "Lack of home training crosses all boundaries." | |
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He's one of the greats that's for sure, but I think sam cooke has everybody beat when it comes to voices period. His voice can make you cry its so beautiful. | |
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It's funny. I've NEVER thought of EW&F as R&B. | |
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What do you consider Mighty Mighty, Yearnin Learnin, Lover's Holiday, Kalimba Story, All About Love, Keep Your Head to the Sky, Reasons? Don't laugh at my funk
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Honestly............I considered those as pop songs. EW&F is a pop group in my opinion. I've never considered them anything but that. Especially when the music was new. When thier best stuff came out, I was 10 to 16 years old.
2 me............that was "pop". Funk was the Ohio Players, P-funk. R&B was the Isley's and others. | |
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She was an early member of the group. She's singing lead on this song. If you click on the link, there is a performance by the group. Jessica is the woman wearing the light blue dress. You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton | |
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you think 'mighty mighty' is a pop hit? according to wiki, it was their first top 30 pop hit. before that 'evil' and 'keep your head to the sky' charted in the top 30 on the r&b charts, but only hovered around the top 60 on the pop charts. i don't understand how you can say that ew&f was a pop group and then turn around and say the isleys were r&b, when like ew&f, they were an r&b group who sometimes crossed over to the pop charts. again, according to wiki, 'it's your thang' was at the top of both the pop and r&b charts. | |
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EWF could get funky, but they were far from Parliament "Lack of home training crosses all boundaries." | |
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Wow. WOW. To me, this is like someone saying Led Zeppelin is a pop group, not rock.
Come on now, you know pop is nothing more than music white folks/ majority America likes and listens to. Whatever 'category' or culture it originates in, if mainstream white folks also dig it in large enough numbers, the song "crosses over" (from where? to where? ...A ha!) and becomes pop. You do remember when even Michael Jackson went multi-platinum but could only be Best Soul/R&B Male. Now Don't Stop Til You Get Enough is widely considered a pop/r&b song. Different times.
EW&F was funk horns, r&b rhythms and soulful vocals, African-inspired rhythms and instrumentation that also had "pop accessibility." I always shake my head at that phrase...accessible to who? lol
The 'Latin Explosion' with Ricky Martin is the same deal, right? Mainstream white audience isn't listening anymore so his stuff is just Latin now, not Latin pop; cracks me up.
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Just out of curiousity, in their heyday, was EWF a crossover act? "Lack of home training crosses all boundaries." | |
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Hindsight is 20 20. When I was 10.....it was pop. | |
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Wow. When Maurice did his thing on the Kalimba you considered that pop. The Phoenix horns. The funky interludes in between songs. Cmon Gray. I could count on one hand songs by EWF i would consider pop and that's mainly After The Love is Gone, Fantasy, and In The Stone. You could check out the majority of EWF's audience during their heyday and you could tell they were an r&b band.
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scriptgirl said: Just out of curiousity, in their heyday, was EWF a crossover act? Yes, I would say they definitely were. Some would say they were like "the Black "Beatles", & Parliament-Funkadelic were like The Rolling Stones. And I love 'em both... EWF arguably stands as the most successful "black" band of all-time, & unfortunately one of the last ones, so far, anyway. The argument would be The Isley Bros. were more successful, but for many years, they were considered a singing group as opposed to the mighty band they were during the 70s & early 80s. Maurice White is truly one of the most underrated vocalists,songwriters & producers of all-time, seriously. He should be just as honored as some of his peers of that period. But the industry's unrecognition/rejection of bands of color since the early 80s seems to have stopped this from happening. Exiles of the Nation
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I'm not arguing that it is not R&b or funk. I'm saying when the materail came out back in the 1970's.......and I heard it, R&B was NOT what came 2 my mind and it was NOT what I was feeling. Did I dig the music? Yes. Did I buy the music? Yes. Was it R&B 2 me? No.
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