LiLi1992 said:

kitbradley said:

Because Britney and Madonna were not crammed downed our throats at every given opportunity (I can't even name one Britney Spears song). In the 80's, the media treated Micheal like he was a God! At that time, no other artist was put on a pedestal as much as he was (despite there being dozens of others artists who were far more talented and way better singers). I could not turn on the television, radio or read a magazine without him being thrusted upon me. Same thing with Beyonce, except I do believe she's more over-rated than he was. At least Jackson supposedly set some standards as far as being a live performer is concerned. I can't say the same for Beyonce. But, if you believe the hype, she's the best musical performer who ever lived, when, in reality, there is absolutely nothing about her alleged talent that puts her above any of these other young girls on the scene doing the exact same thing.

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I understand the artist's ubiquity annoying, but he had a talent and a lot of skills in different areas. In addition, World Love in the '80s and early '90s gave way to worldwide hatred in the last 15 years of his life. So he became underrated if we follow your logic?

And really, who are these @dozens of others artists who were far more talented@? Who at the same time the better singer, dancer and songwriter than MJ? Call the names, pls!
I know many better singers, I know better dancers (although among pop / rock artists is possible that he is the best), I know a lot of the better songwriters. But not many artists have the complete package like him.

As for Beyonce, it is one of the best live performers of the last decade.
I am absolutely not her fan, I like the whole no more than 10 songs, but she has the looks, voice and energy.

I feel the presence of Rihanna and Katy Perry everywhere is much stronger than Beyonce, although she is much better artist than they are. So they are better examples of overrated artists.

Only just noticed this

Did you know Halo is a cover ?

The original is a million times better and a million times more emotive , without the

annoying straining and oversinging imo

I don't think they ever properly released it though

I can't believe they sold this song to her

I think it's brilliant

(this is a demo , there's no official video clip)

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rialb said:

All right, that is enough. Gunshalen, ScarletScandal, no one is getting raped, stabbed or anything else violent. I want you two to bust out the acoustic guitars, snuggle down next to a roaring fire and engage in a sprited rendition of "Kumbaya."

Dewrede said:

Only just noticed this

Did you know Halo is a cover ?

The original is a million times better and a million times more emotive , without the

annoying straining and oversinging imo

I don't think they ever properly released it though

I can't believe they sold this song to her

I think it's brilliant

(this is a demo , there's no official video clip)

[Edited 12/2/11 12:09pm]

Tt was written by Ryan Tedder who probably did the demo of it for whomever was going to end up singing it. Also, songwriters hope to sell their songs to be big time stars. It's great publicity for someone and it's something awesome to put on your resume when you're looking to shop more songs around.

Husky said:

I see Tina,

It's fine with me... sometimes you personally dont have a connection with a certain band or artist at all.

For example, people seem to keep raving about Pink Floyd and Radiohead.. and they do nothing to me, so...

Me either!

tinaz said:

Husky said:

I see Tina,

It's fine with me... sometimes you personally dont have a connection with a certain band or artist at all.

For example, people seem to keep raving about Pink Floyd and Radiohead.. and they do nothing to me, so...

Me either!

Omg me too!

I can not stand Thom Yorke's wailing. It drives me up the wall. Pink Floyd is meh. I always feel that music should you move you in a positive way. Any music that moves me to cut if off is just not that good to me.

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Unholyalliance said:

tinaz said:

Me either!

Omg me too!

I can not stand Thom Yorke's wailing. It drives me up the wall. Pink Floyd is meh. I always feel that music should you move you in a positive way. Any music that moves me to cut if off is just not that good to me.

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Unholyalliance said:

Dewrede said:

Only just noticed this

Did you know Halo is a cover ?

The original is a million times better and a million times more emotive , without the

annoying straining and oversinging imo

I don't think they ever properly released it though

I can't believe they sold this song to her

I think it's brilliant

(this is a demo , there's no official video clip)

[Edited 12/2/11 12:09pm]

Tt was written by Ryan Tedder who probably did the demo of it for whomever was going to end up singing it. Also, songwriters hope to sell their songs to be big time stars. It's great publicity for someone and it's something awesome to put on your resume when you're looking to shop more songs around.

Yeah i just read he actually wrote it for Beyonce

He should've put the song out himself imo , such a waste

better sound

[Edited 12/2/11 12:35pm]

ScarletScandal said:

rialb said:

All right, that is enough. Gunshalen, ScarletScandal, no one is getting raped, stabbed or anything else violent. I want you two to bust out the acoustic guitars, snuggle down next to a roaring fire and engage in a sprited rendition of "Kumbaya."

Gunshalen seems to be onboard, how about you meet me halfway. Maybe "Kumbaya" was a bad idea, consider it off the table. How about this:

But what now if i say i dont give a lot about Janet Jackson?

She seems to be one of the most favourite artists on 'Music - non Prince' but all i hear is a thin-voiced singer without any character, that once was succesfull thanks to Jam and Lewis, but who seems to be overhyped on here for the last couple of yours.

She is first of all a shallow entertainer (lypsyncher, dancer), but she aint no artist or real musician.

Am i allowed to say that in here, while i show my dislike of Radiohead and Pink Floyd?

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Husky said:

But what now if i say i dont give a lot about Janet Jackson?

She seems to be one of the most favourite artists on 'Music - non Prince' but all i hear is a thin-voiced singer without any character, that once was succesfull thanks to Jam and Lewis, but who seems to be overhyped on here for the last couple of yours.

She is first of all a shallow entertainer (lypsyncher, dancer), but she aint no artist or real musician.

Am i allowed to say that in here, while i show my dislike of Radiohead and Pink Floyd?

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I partially agree with you. I quite enjoy a fair bit of her music but had she never met and worked with Jam and Lewis I suspect we would have heard very little from her over the last 25 years.

Janet is one of thse artists I'm indifferent to. I never got into her for some reason. I can honestly say "All For You" is the only complete Janet song I've heard and it's an okay song. I've heard bits and pieces of Control and Rythm Nation, but I wasn't that interested. Usually if I'm really into an artist, I'll youtube the crap out of them. That's how I became such a big fan of Whitney and Luther, they have tons of youtube videos. I've never 'youtubed' Janet before.

WAIT!! I take that Back! "What's It Gonna Be" with Busta Rhymes featuring Janet is my fucking shit! LOVE that song!

Well, i sometimes feel like when i am critical of Janet Jackson in here: i attack president Obama, the bible, the human existence, all thats good in life, and to me its plain nonsense, to be honest, to me Janet Jackson belong in the category of Rihanna and Katy Perry, sorry, nothing more.

Classic case of a band that is maybe not technically bad, but still just plain awful.

Even the cliche WordNumber name that everyone wore out in the 90's (Matchbox 20, Blink 182, Eve 6, Sum 41...) drives me nuts.

And now this "moowoowoowooves like Jaggar" shit

When will someone punch them?

Thats right, isnt it:

If you dare to put any questionmark in here on Janet Jackson, El Debarge or Rick James, you will be seen as a blasphemist.

As if its still 1985?

Well yes, if you only listen to worn out disco and R and B, how can I take you serious? Stuck in life as a thirty-something?

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NDRU said:

Classic case of a band that is maybe not technically bad, but still just plain awful.

Even the cliche WordNumber name that everyone wore out in the 90's (Matchbox 20, Blink 182, Eve 6, Sum 41...) drives me nuts.

And now this "moowoowoowooves like Jaggar" shit

When will someone punch them?

Blame the Jackson 5.

I was fine with janet till every song she sang was bout her pussy and that god damn whispering shit.

NDRU said:

Classic case of a band that is maybe not technically bad, but still just plain awful.

Even the cliche WordNumber name that everyone wore out in the 90's (Matchbox 20, Blink 182, Eve 6, Sum 41...) drives me nuts.

And now this "moowoowoowooves like Jaggar" shit

When will someone punch them?

I like a few songs by them,but I can't bring myself to buy an entire album by them.Their albums always have only one or two good songs on it,imo.

SoulAlive said:

NDRU said:

Classic case of a band that is maybe not technically bad, but still just plain awful.

Even the cliche WordNumber name that everyone wore out in the 90's (Matchbox 20, Blink 182, Eve 6, Sum 41...) drives me nuts.

And now this "moowoowoowooves like Jaggar" shit

When will someone punch them?

I like a few songs by them,but I can't bring myself to buy an entire album by them.Their albums always have only one or two good songs on it,imo.

that's the thing. Technically I can't say that their music or their songs are bad or that they are a bad band. I just don't like them

Oh how could i forget them

That dude's voice is annoying as hell

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Beyonce - Overrated. Lies about writing music. I also hate the fact that her father crushed and destroyed dreams to ensure that his daughter became a star.

Lady Gaga - Hilariously pretentious. You're a pop singer, you're not saving the world.

Lil Wayne - Colorstruck asshole. He almost ruined Take Care for me.

Nicki Minaj - This girl is straight up garbage. If I were her, I'd thank God every night that the industry is sexist and typically doesn't give female rappers a chance. I believe that if there were more female rappers out, almost no one would know that she existed.

MJ haters - Ok, I undertsand that you might not enjoy his music, but jfc come up with something new. Stop using the same tired ass arguments that have been constantly shot-down to belittle his talents and impact.

The kardashians - I know that they're not musicians, but this family is so tragic. I can't even imagine getting famous off of my own/daughter's/sister's sex tape. I'm convined that their mother, Kris, is the devil.

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NDRU said:

Classic case of a band that is maybe not technically bad, but still just plain awful.

Even the cliche WordNumber name that everyone wore out in the 90's (Matchbox 20, Blink 182, Eve 6, Sum 41...) drives me nuts.

And now this "moowoowoowooves like Jaggar" shit

When will someone punch them?

OH GOD. How could I forget about them!! I ABSOLUTELY HATE THEM!! I hate them individually even though I don't know they. They are ear terrorists. I wish they would go to hell, hung upside down and whipped while listening to Jughead backwards, and all night, little baby demon Hitlers stomp on their nuts

Layzie said:

Beyonce - Overrated. Lies about writing music. I also hate the fact that her father crushed and destroyed dreams to ensure that his daughter became a star.

Lady Gaga - Hilariously pretentious. You're a pop singer, you're not saving the world.

Lil Wayne - Colorstruck asshole. He almost ruined Take Care for me.

Nicki Minaj - This girl is straight up garbage. If I were her, I'd thank God every night that the industry is sexist and typically doesn't give female rappers a chance. I believe that if there were more female rappers out, almost no one would know that she existed.

MJ haters - Ok, I undertsand that you might not enjoy his music, but jfc come up with something new. Stop using the same tired ass arguments that have been constantly shot-down to belittle his talents and impact.

The kardashians - I know that they're not musicians, but this family is so tragic. I can't even imagine getting famous off of my own/daughter's/sister's sex tape. I'm convined that their mother, Kris, is the devil.

[Edited 12/2/11 15:07pm]

ScarletScandal said:

NDRU said:

Classic case of a band that is maybe not technically bad, but still just plain awful.

Even the cliche WordNumber name that everyone wore out in the 90's (Matchbox 20, Blink 182, Eve 6, Sum 41...) drives me nuts.

And now this "moowoowoowooves like Jaggar" shit

When will someone punch them?

OH GOD. How could I forget about them!! I ABSOLUTELY HATE THEM!! I hate them individually even though I don't know they. They are ear terrorists. I wish they would go to hell, hung upside down and whipped while listening to Jughead backwards, and all night, little baby demon Hitlers stomp on their nuts

Gunsnhalen said:

ScarletScandal said:

OH GOD. How could I forget about them!! I ABSOLUTELY HATE THEM!! I hate them individually even though I don't know they. They are ear terrorists. I wish they would go to hell, hung upside down and whipped while listening to Jughead backwards, and all night, little baby demon Hitlers stomp on their nuts

Husky said:

Thats right, isnt it:

If you dare to put any questionmark in here on Janet Jackson, El Debarge or Rick James, you will be seen as a blasphemist.

As if its still 1985?

Well yes, if you only listen to worn out disco and R and B, how can I take you serious? Stuck in life as a thirty-something?

[Edited 12/2/11 13:39pm]

this is a hate thread, if you hate janet just go on and say it. i didnt see nobody come at you for your comments, you seem to have some other agenda or trying to bait janet fans.

ScarletScandal said:

Gunsnhalen said:

Oh my Chao! my ex husband.... he needs to pay child support for that baby we had.

tinaz said:

Lemme try and redeem myself in your eyes..

Out of the 4 I listed if I HAD to only listen to one of them for the rest of my life, Id choose the Beatles

Sorry Tina....there is no redemption. Your post has been reported to the music police and a summons has been mailed out to you.

PurpleJedi said:

tinaz said:

Lemme try and redeem myself in your eyes..

Out of the 4 I listed if I HAD to only listen to one of them for the rest of my life, Id choose the Beatles

Sorry Tina....there is no redemption. Your post has been reported to the music police and a summons has been mailed out to you.

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tinaz said:

PurpleJedi said:

Sorry Tina....there is no redemption. Your post has been reported to the music police and a summons has been mailed out to you.

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Secret Santa hint for Tinaz;

PurpleJedi said:

tinaz said:

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Secret Santa hint for Tinaz;

I seriously just LOL'ED for real!!!