Terrib3Towel said:

Adorecream said:

For real, is this like 1954?

Why is it that you use someone you detest as having to be gay. Is being a homosexual like the lowest of the low in your mind. I am amazed that the moderators on the org still allow this thinly disguised homophobic hate speech to get through. To me as a proud gay man, I find this response homophobic and offensive. It is alos very childish. Its clearly obvious the org is not as gay friendly as it once was. Hate is not just a race based thing.

Sweetheart, if you haven't noticed I'm as gay as they come. I'm BLACK and gay, okay? I grew up in a conservative Christian household and I thought "gay" was bad before I even knew I was gay. I could literally write pages about how difficult my life is just because of my sexual orientation, but I'm pretty sure you already know the struggle. I'll admit I still have a bad habit of attributing something "bad" as being "gay" but it's a hard habit to break once it's been beaten into your head for so long. I know I have a long way to go before I can truly be comfortable with myself. And as far as my OP, you have to be able to laugh at yourself sometimes. Sorry if I offended you, it wasn't intentional.

Well first of all grow up and get over, being gay yourself does not excuse self hatred. Second you also call me sweetheart, is there like some sort of effeminate vernacular I am suppose to conform to. I am a proudly male gay, I do not call my partner sweetheart, darling, honey etc or use words like fabulous. I have no desire to dress up in womens clothes or wear make up because I am gay, and I am certainly not involved in a struggle, I find I have struggles in my life, but being mixed race or gay is not any part of them, being overqualified and underemployed is. It is actually possible to be a gay who does not have to dismiss anything naff or inferior or gay or suggest someone I really detest has to eat pole sausage (I mean really what a weak metaphor!!).

You excuse it a bit, but still to hear you are gay and using this shit, wow, it must be tough in the Christian heartland.

Still LOVE not hate is the answer, love who you are and others will love you too.

Justin Bieber

Taylor Swift

Hannah Montana and all her alias's

ok, dont kill me BUT.... The Beatles

tinaz said:

Justin Bieber

Taylor Swift

Hannah Montana and all her alias's

ok, dont kill me BUT.... The Beatles

Okay, this is an opinion, but I find it hard to understand how you can hate the Beatles? No love - I understand, but hate ........
And put them on par with Taylor Swift, Hannah Montana and Justin Bieber - insulting.

LiLi1992 said:

tinaz said:

Justin Bieber

Taylor Swift

Hannah Montana and all her alias's

ok, dont kill me BUT.... The Beatles

Okay, this is an opinion, but I find it hard to understand how you can hate the Beatles? No love - I understand, but hate ........
And put them on par with Taylor Swift, Hannah Montana and Justin Bieber - insulting.

I knew i was gonna get it!!

I have never liked their voices nor the music.. it seems "childish" to me... Not childish as in immature, but music made for children... I wouldnt say they are in the same category as the other 3 I listed, because lets face it, those 3 are ANNOYING AS HELL

Whenever a beatles song comes on it makes my body crinch... I know, I know, im probably the only oddball in the world who feels this way but GO ELVIS!!

Lemme try and redeem myself in your eyes..

Out of the 4 I listed if I HAD to only listen to one of them for the rest of my life, Id choose the Beatles

tinaz said:

I have never liked their voices nor the music.. it seems "childish" to me... Not childish as in immature, but music made for children... I wouldnt say they are in the same category as the other 3 I listed, because lets face it, those 3 are ANNOYING AS HELL

Whenever a beatles song comes on it makes my body crinch... I know, I know, im probably the only oddball in the world who feels this way but GO ELVIS!!

Not only, but you're on the wrong way.
The Beatles wrote many classic songs, their music ahead of time, and harmony are phenomenal. Voices ... yes, they were not the greatest singers, but I believe that their voices are not bad.
Elvis never wrote a hit for himself. He was an icon, perhaps the Greatest icon in music history, he had a good voice, but that is all I give him credit.

Out of the 4 I listed if I HAD to only listen to one of them for the rest of my life, Id choose the Beatles

If I had to choose only one artist whom I would have had to listen to the rest of my life - it would have been the Beatles!

LiLi1992 said:

tinaz said:

I have never liked their voices nor the music.. it seems "childish" to me... Not childish as in immature, but music made for children... I wouldnt say they are in the same category as the other 3 I listed, because lets face it, those 3 are ANNOYING AS HELL

Whenever a beatles song comes on it makes my body crinch... I know, I know, im probably the only oddball in the world who feels this way but GO ELVIS!!

Not only, but you're on the wrong way.
The Beatles wrote many classic songs, their music ahead of time, and harmony are phenomenal. Voices ... yes, they were not the greatest singers, but I believe that their voices are not bad.
Elvis never wrote a hit for himself. He was an icon, perhaps the Greatest icon in music history, he had a good voice, but that is all I give him credit.

Out of the 4 I listed if I HAD to only listen to one of them for the rest of my life, Id choose the Beatles

If I had to choose only one artist whom I would have had to listen to the rest of my life - it would have been the Beatles!

I wont deny their place in musical history, I will agree they do harmonize nicely, but... they just dont do it for me..

My only beef is I think groups like Led Zeppelin blow the Beatles out of the water, and while they are well liked they dont have Beatle status... I just have never understood the love they get...

If we get stranded on a dessert island together and only have 1 ipod and its filled with Beatle music, I would let you have it

sp edit

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DIGITAL MUSIC!!!!!

lazycrockett said:

I cant wait for Madonna's death so I can walk into the local gay bar with a Cheshire smile on my face.

You and I will probably kick the bucket way before she does. =/

^I dont know bout you but I live off of piss and vinegar and there's plenty of that around so I ain't going nowhere.

People I can't stand but don't necessarily hate:

Beyonce: I mean, I love her DC stuff and some of her solo work. But just lately...I'm sick of the that damn blond weave she's wearing. Girl, you are not a white girl. You and Shakira need a chill pill, fo'real. And I just wish the girl would slow down and do something worthwhile. Her music is utter crap as of recent. Girls Who Run The World is the biggest earsore I've heard in ages.

Lady Gaga: Little "monsters", you can all kiss my ass. I don't hate her, but she's a complete and utter poser. And anyone who says she's so innovative, she invented all that shit, get fucking real. She STOLE (not borrowed) STOLE from every other successful artist. And to top it off, her sense of self-importance makes me want to vomit. I mean, her cult following make MJ stans look sane. She has talent, but decides to waste it on making crap music and worhtless music videos. Judas is the biggest culprit. Oh, and stop covering the classics.

Ne-Yo: get outta hurr!!!

Patti Labelle: Really I can't stand her outbursts. Someone needs to hand that woman a percocet. Seriously. But she's talented, so I have no musical qualms with her.

Kanye muthafuckin' West: Oh you arrogant prick. Do you do anything but fucking steal from Michael Jackson and then call it your own shit? Fucka get outta hurr!!! That giant inflatable head of MJ scared the fuck outta me.

Usher: Get your own act, muhfugga. Michael Jackson is not a genre of music. Stop jacking his swagger please.

Chris Brown: Refer to Usher.

Drake: Total Poser. Nuff said. Him and that other mofo Trey Songz.

Rhianna: Your music is absolute noise. Please quit and become a model. At least you can still make a living without opening your mouth.

Xtina: Oversinging does not equal soul. So please stop.

That's all I can think of for now.

i dont hate beyonce but she has to be at least top 3 of the most overrated pop stars of all time. i dont think she has a great voice but she is a pretty good entertainer. yes she sing better than rhianna and others but she dont make better songs. matter fact one of the things that piss me off about her is the dumbass songs she makes and the 50 videos she release per-album. now her husband is a different story, i really hate him. lets see who else i hate...justin timberfake, eminim,lil wayne,drake,niki menage, im sure theres more i just cant think of them right now

tinaz said:

Justin Bieber

Taylor Swift

Hannah Montana and all her alias's

ok, dont kill me BUT.... The Beatles

Same here. I'm not a fan of them at ALL. ALL their songs bore me and put me to sleep. I don't know why everybody rides their dicks so hard.

ThruTheEyesOfWonder said:

Drake: Total Poser. Nuff said. Him and that other mofo Trey Songz.

lol Everytime I think of Drake I remember this:

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ScarletScandal said:

tinaz said:

ok, dont kill me BUT.... The Beatles

Same here. I'm not a fan of them at ALL. ALL their songs bore me and put me to sleep. I don't know why everybody rides their dicks so hard.

Yeah I have to agree with the both of you. I don't really understand why everyone overrates the hell out of them either. They do have some great songs, but to classify them above and beyond everyone else ever?

Nope.

To me it's just hardcore baby boomer nostalgia.

( I am aware of a lot of their achievements and just what they have done for music, but in terms of just listening to their music, as is, is what I mean.)

ScarletScandal said:

tinaz said:

Justin Bieber

Taylor Swift

Hannah Montana and all her alias's

ok, dont kill me BUT.... The Beatles

Same here. I'm not a fan of them at ALL. ALL their songs bore me and put me to sleep. I don't know why everybody rides their dicks so hard.

Scarlet knows i'm fucking with him

But as a Beatles fan myself, some people do ride there dicks hard, get off on the station & come back for more. That's how i feel about Grateful Dead fans to

I think there one of the dumbest bands ever... i can't stand them. Listened to 3 of there albums, and it sounds like there just trying to make stoner music for themselves

FINALLY i know other people who feel as I do about the Beatles!! Ive always thought i was the oddball loner!

Gunsnhalen said:

ScarletScandal said:

Same here. I'm not a fan of them at ALL. ALL their songs bore me and put me to sleep. I don't know why everybody rides their dicks so hard.

Actually..

ScarletScandal said:

Gunsnhalen said:

Actually..

Gunsnhalen said:

ScarletScandal said:

Actually..

I like the Beatles but I am not a rabid fan and I think it is obvious why they are so revered. They managed to combine commercial and artistic success in a way that few, if any, other artists ever managed. They were huge pop stars while at the same time they were very experimental and pushed the boundaries of what a four piece rock band could do.

Now, of course their music is not going to appeal to everyone and it is fine for people to dislike them but it is hard to argue with the success that they achieved, both commercially and artistically.

ScarletScandal said:

Gunsnhalen said:

rialb said:

I like the Beatles but I am not a rabid fan and I think it is obvious why they are so revered. They managed to combine commercial and artistic success in a way that few, if any, other artists ever managed. They were huge pop stars while at the same time they were very experimental and pushed the boundaries of what a four piece rock band could do.

Now, of course their music is not going to appeal to everyone and it is fine for people to dislike them but it is hard to argue with the success that they achieved, both commercially and artistically.

Especially the experimentation the did, it was and still is amazing. Especially on stuff like The White Album & Revolver

I sometimes wonder if people who say they 'hate' the Beatles only know their more simple, straightforward songs from their early years? You know the period of the black-and-white material, with the screaming girls and song titles like 'I want to hold your hand' and 'love me do'.

Indeed: these songs might sound childish and naive on surface, but EVEN then they were allready doing something 'fresh' with rock and roll. They were using the more rythmic, blues-based elements of 'american' rock and roll, and mixing it with a more 'european' sense of melody and harmony.

In fact, i think when you really look at it, those earlier albums were probably more influential on pop-music in general, then those later, more experimental albums. They were the ones that made the Verse-chorus-verse-chorus-bridge-chorus-chorus structure the norm in todays popmusic.

And indeed, when you think the Beatles are too 'childish', maybe you should indeed listen to later, more experimental or mature work like Strawberry fields forever, Eleanor Rigby or The medley on Abbey Road.

I agree with Rialb here: The Beatles are surely not my personally favourite band, but i can definitely acknowledge how much they meant for popular music and therefore i won't never say i 'hate' them.

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Husky said:

I sometimes wonder if people who say they 'hate' the Beatles only know their more simple, straightforward songs from their early years? You know the period of the black-and-white material, with the screaming girls and song titles like 'I want to hold your hand' and 'love me do'.

Indeed: these songs might sound childish and naive on surface, but EVEN then they were allready doing something 'fresh' with rock and roll. They were using the more rythmic, blues-based elements of 'american' rock and roll, and mixing it with a more 'european' sense of melody and harmony.

In fact, i think when you really look at it, those earlier albums were probably more influential on pop-music in general, then those later, more experimental albums. They were the ones that made the Verse-chorus-verse-chorus-bridge-chorus-chorus structure the norm in todays popmusic.

And indeed, when you think the Beatles are too 'childish', maybe you should indeed listen to later, more experimental or mature work like Strawberry fields forever, Eleanor Rigby or The medley on Abbey Road.

I agree with Rialb here: The Beatles are surely not my personally favourite band, but i can definitely acknowledge how much they meant for popular music and therefore i won't never say i 'hate' them.

[Edited 12/2/11 10:38am]

Nope... I have listened to it all... My daughter is a beatles FREAK, I have heard every album and every song... Still dont like them...

But your whole post is probably half the reason I dont like them... Its like a christian zealot trying to convert me to their religion...

Only song I can tolerate leaving on the radio when it comes on is Live and Let die, and thats a Paul MCcartney and Wings song sooooooo I just dont like em....

Lemme also add, I never denied them their place in being influental in musical history...

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[Edited 12/2/11 10:50am]

I see Tina,

It's fine with me... sometimes you personally dont have a connection with a certain band or artist at all.

For example, people seem to keep raving about Pink Floyd and Radiohead.. and they do nothing to me, so...

Gunsnhalen said:

ScarletScandal said:

All right, that is enough. Gunshalen, ScarletScandal, no one is getting raped, stabbed or anything else violent. I want you two to bust out the acoustic guitars, snuggle down next to a roaring fire and engage in a sprited rendition of "Kumbaya."

rialb said:

All right, that is enough. Gunshalen, ScarletScandal, no one is getting raped, stabbed or anything else violent. I want you two to bust out the acoustic guitars, snuggle down next to a roaring fire and engage in a sprited rendition of "Kumbaya."

Well i play instruments, he sings. i guess this could be done