Unholyalliance said:

Dewrede said:

Madonna , Bjork , Beyoncé , Muse , Boner , 50 Cent , Nickelback

Oh god listening to that woman sing is like the ULTIMATE torture. I don't know who is worse sometimes, her, Janelle Monae, or Taylor Swift. To think, all that technology out there and the last one still sounds horribly off.

she sounds like a psycho lunatic imo

Homogenic is one terrific album.

kitbradley said:

Terrib3Towel said:

I'm told all the time that I'm a 'professional hater.' What can I say, I like to shit on those I don't care for. LOL! I've said before that I don't like a lot of artists out there today, there may be a song on the radio I'll catch and I'll enjoy, but for the most part music nowadays suck. The industry cares more about image than actual TALENT. Anyways, let's direct all of our hate to artists we don't like in this thread. Let the hating begin!! I'll start:

Beyawnce - never could stand this chick. I hate her voice and her music. She's not that great of a vocalist, her voice is a dime dozen. She can't dance. If shaking your ass every chance you get is dancing, then hell yeah she can dance! Her crappy album sales are proof that her music sucks. People will still buy music they enjoy (Adele), but Miss Bey has only sold a miserable 11 million in the states since she went solo. Yeah, to the left to the left alright. She's the most overrated artist of the 21st century.

Drake - What's to not hate about this poser? I don't know whats worse his "singing" or his generic ass flow. I want him and the rest of the young money crew to jump off a bridge.

P. Diddy Puff-Diddy - whatever the fuck his name is. He's a horrible rapper and made his whole career from ripping off BIG. He's a punk, and probably has a thing for pole sausage

Aretha Franklin - In her early recordings, this woman could do no wrong. But her funky ass attitude makes me loathe her. Plus she hasn't put out anything of substance in over 30 years. She has an ego to matche her big fat ass. She needs to learn some humility. Her live performances have been reduced to howling messes.

Shitney Spears - Talentless white trash. She's living proof that no matter how much money you have, it won't change who you are at heart. (In her case trailer trash).

Madonna - I don't get hype. Sorry.

Every single artist that BET plays.

Who do you hate?

Really? The way the media and her fans fawn all over her like she's the second coming of Jesus Christ, I thought she had sold 11 million copies of each of her albums. Not only is she the most over-rated artist of the 21st century, IMO, she's the most over-rated artist in music history! It was Micheal Jackson until she came along.

Before Beyonce??? It`s late 90s? In this period MJ actually was the most hatred man in the world...

Honestly I do not understand how he could be overrated. It does not make sense in my mind.

I wonder that you think Beyonce and MJ are overrated, who have talent, but do not consider overrated Britney and Madonna, who obviously less talented, but have no less status and popularity. Explain your logic, please ...

I can not say that I hate at least one artist, I even have a neutral attitude to Rihanna, Bieber and Britney, but there is one artist who annoys me - Katy Perry. Yes, I believe that even Britney has more charisma and Bieber more talent. Yak!

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What's wrong with them ?

They may be a bit bland and unadventerous but i don't think they're bad

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purplethunder3121 said:

Homogenic is one terrific album.

I've tried

I hate my ex-dentist.

hate the world

fuck the world

eat fuck piss breath

die

LiLi1992 said:

kitbradley said:

Really? The way the media and her fans fawn all over her like she's the second coming of Jesus Christ, I thought she had sold 11 million copies of each of her albums. Not only is she the most over-rated artist of the 21st century, IMO, she's the most over-rated artist in music history! It was Micheal Jackson until she came along.

Before Beyonce??? It`s late 90s? In this period MJ actually was the most hatred man in the world...

Honestly I do not understand how he could be overrated. It does not make sense in my mind.

I wonder that you think Beyonce and MJ are overrated, who have talent, but do not consider overrated Britney and Madonna, who obviously less talented, but have no less status and popularity. Explain your logic, please ...

I can not say that I hate at least one artist, I even have a neutral attitude to Rihanna, Bieber and Britney, but there is one artist who annoys me - Katy Perry. Yes, I believe that even Britney has more charisma and Bieber more talent. Yak!

Because Britney and Madonna were not crammed downed our throats at every given opportunity (I can't even name one Britney Spears song). In the 80's, the media treated Micheal like he was a God! At that time, no other artist was put on a pedestal as much as he was (despite there being dozens of others artists who were far more talented and way better singers). I could not turn on the television, radio or read a magazine without him being thrusted upon me. Same thing with Beyonce, except I do believe she's more over-rated than he was. At least Jackson supposedly set some standards as far as being a live performer is concerned. I can't say the same for Beyonce. But, if you believe the hype, she's the best musical performer who ever lived, when, in reality, there is absolutely nothing about her alleged talent that puts her above any of these other young girls on the scene doing the exact same thing.

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1. Justin Bieber - I don't get any of it.

2. Rihanna - Stank attitude.

3. Lil' Wayne - It amazes me how I hear greatest alongside this name.

4. Taylor Swift - LMAO

5. Trey Songz - Goat No Songz.

kitbradley said:

Because Britney and Madonna were not crammed downed our throats at every given opportunity (I can't even name one Britney Spears song). In the 80's, the media treated Micheal like he was a God! At that time, no other artist was put on a pedestal as much as he was (despite there being dozens of others artists who were far more talented and way better singers). I could not turn on the television, radio or read a magazine without him being thrusted upon me. Same thing with Beyonce, except I do believe she's more over-rated than he was. At least Jackson supposedly set some standards as far as being a live performer is concerned. I can't say the same for Beyonce. But, if you believe the hype, she's the best musical performer who ever lived, when, in reality, there is absolutely nothing about her alleged talent that puts her above any of these other young girls on the scene doing the exact same thing.

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I understand the artist's ubiquity annoying, but he had a talent and a lot of skills in different areas. In addition, World Love in the '80s and early '90s gave way to worldwide hatred in the last 15 years of his life. So he became underrated if we follow your logic?

And really, who are these @dozens of others artists who were far more talented@? Who at the same time the better singer, dancer and songwriter than MJ? Call the names, pls!
I know many better singers, I know better dancers (although among pop / rock artists is possible that he is the best), I know a lot of the better songwriters. But not many artists have the complete package like him.

I feel the presence of Rihanna and Katy Perry everywhere is much stronger than Beyonce, although she is much better artist than they are. So they are better examples of overrated artists.

musicjunky318 said:

1. Justin Bieber - I don't get any of it.

2. Rihanna - Stank attitude.

3. Lil' Wayne - It amazes me how I hear greatest alongside this name.

4. Taylor Swift - LMAO

5. Trey Songz - Goat No Songz.

Ohhhhh, yes.

Don`t hate, but strongly dislike!

LiLi1992 said:

kitbradley said:

Because Britney and Madonna were not crammed downed our throats at every given opportunity (I can't even name one Britney Spears song). In the 80's, the media treated Micheal like he was a God! At that time, no other artist was put on a pedestal as much as he was (despite there being dozens of others artists who were far more talented and way better singers). I could not turn on the television, radio or read a magazine without him being thrusted upon me. Same thing with Beyonce, except I do believe she's more over-rated than he was. At least Jackson supposedly set some standards as far as being a live performer is concerned. I can't say the same for Beyonce. But, if you believe the hype, she's the best musical performer who ever lived, when, in reality, there is absolutely nothing about her alleged talent that puts her above any of these other young girls on the scene doing the exact same thing.

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I understand the artist's ubiquity annoying, but he had a talent and a lot of skills in different areas. In addition, World Love in the '80s and early '90s gave way to worldwide hatred in the last 15 years of his life. So he became underrated if we follow your logic?

And really, who are these @dozens of others artists who were far more talented@? Who at the same time the better singer, dancer and songwriter than MJ? Call the names, pls!
I know many better singers, I know better dancers (although among pop / rock artists is possible that he is the best), I know a lot of the better songwriters. But not many artists have the complete package like him.

As for Beyonce, it is one of the best live performers of the last decade.
I am absolutely not her fan, I like the whole no more than 10 songs, but she has the looks, voice and energy.

I feel the presence of Rihanna and Katy Perry everywhere is much stronger than Beyonce, although she is much better artist than they are. So they are better examples of overrated artists.

You sound like a Beyonce fan(and there is nothing wrong with that)

Your missing a major point Kitbradely is making that is completely going over your head

First off being overrated has nothing to do with talent. Overrated simply means given more accolades more than what an artist deserves; being rated higher than what their talent really is...

What makes Beyonce overrated is she is rate higher, given artistic merit, labeled as original or an innovater, rated on the SAME level as an artist like MICHAEL JACKSON and MADONNA. When in REAL reality she is a fairly average artist. I dont even consider her to be an artist but their is nothing original or creative about anything that she does.

She is not an innovator

She doesnt write any of her music

She lies about the creativity and input she exactly has

She cant dance for shit

She cant act for shit

She does not make authentic or SPECTACULAR music worthy of 16 grammys when their are other artists of past as well as present MORE deserving

There is nothing original or groudbreaking about her

Her TALENT which is only boxed in as a vocalist can be easily duplicated... she isnt one of a kind or possess a God given talent like an artist like Billie Holiday or Stevie Wonder.

Yes she can sing but there are ALOT of singers of this generation that sing a hell of alot better. ex. Jill Scott, Janelle Monae, Stokley etc... Oversinging, yelling aint singing but if you like it then thats you...

Also, she doesnt have an ounce of soul or emotion in her body when she performs.. she is beyond overrated in that aspect. She has stage presence but she is horrible with connecting with audiences.. I think there are far better performances and dancers.

The fact that she has more grammys than Prince, Michael Jackson, Marvin Gaye, James Brown ETC in similiar categories that they were nominated and can EASILY win them because she is GIVEN those accolades just because of her popularity and NOT the quality of her music shows just how much this industry has fallen

Its unfair when their are really great artists that make better music but dont get the attention because their not stipping but naked, shaking their ass, trying to sell sex and making pop generic shit...

So yes...

Beyonce is overrated.... just because she can sing and Brittany Spears and Rihanna cant doesnt justify that... Brittany Spears and Rihanna are not being labeled as icons, they are not given a ton accolades as Beyonce has been given or compared to Michael Jackson... They have not been given prestigeous awards like Beyawnce as been given. And that MTV award Spears received doesnt count.. thats probably the ONLY fake award she has been given.. Beyonce has a whole room of them and the sad part is they mean nothing

The fact that people argue this and limit themselves to Kate Perry, Beyawnce, Rihanna, Brittany shows the lack of taste they have in music there are BIG selection of MUCH BETTER artists of this generation if you TURN OFF THE RADIO

that is all

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Why the fuck to you people waste so much time posting this bullshit.

Get. A. Life.

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Paris9748430 said:

Why the fuck to you people waste so much time posting this bullshit.

Get. A. Life.

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So says the person posting in this thread as well.

I don't have a life. Shitting on celebrities on message boards is my life. I go to class, study, and then spend the rest of my time visiting about 6 message boards until its time to sleep. I know, pathetic much?

And that Beyonce performance wasn't all that great, I could pull up almost any Whitney performance and shit all over that hoe. But you're right, that probably is one of the best live performance of the decade, there's not a lot of great live performers out there today. So good job to Beyonce for being the Queen of Shit!

LiLi1992 said:

I understand the artist's ubiquity annoying, but he had a talent and a lot of skills in different areas. In addition, World Love in the '80s and early '90s gave way to worldwide hatred in the last 15 years of his life. So he became underrated if we follow your logic?

And really, who are these @dozens of others artists who were far more talented@? Who at the same time the better singer, dancer and songwriter than MJ? Call the names, pls!
I know many better singers, I know better dancers (although among pop / rock artists is possible that he is the best), I know a lot of the better songwriters. But not many artists have the complete package like him.

As for Beyonce, it is one of the best live performers of the last decade.
I am absolutely not her fan, I like the whole no more than 10 songs, but she has the looks, voice and energy.

I feel the presence of Rihanna and Katy Perry everywhere is much stronger than Beyonce, although she is much better artist than they are. So they are better examples of overrated artists.

I disagree. And that performance you posted was a piece of shit! Whether or not a person has talent and whether they are over-rated is a matter of personal opinion, I suppose. I don't know anything about Katy Perry and I HATE Rhianna but I don't think neither is nearly as over-rated and over-exposed as Beyonce.

And as far as me naming singers who I considered better than Michael Jackson, sorry, the list is just too long for me to type. Although I was never a fan, I always gave Micheal his props for being one hell of a dancer and live entertainer. But a singer? No. There were way better male vocalists out there. They just never received the same attention because they were SINGERS rather than ENTERTAINERS like he was.

Paris9748430 said:

Why the fuck to you people waste so much time posting this bullshit.

Get. A. Life.

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Uh, because it's a HATE thread. And it's a hell of a lot of fun!

^

I take great pleasure out of spwewing hatred

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kitbradley said:

hey just never received the same attention because they were SINGERS rather than ENTERTAINERS like he was.

Umm...don't singers/instrumentalist/musicians have to entertain people when they perform? I mean...if they're not then what is the point?

=/

kitbradley said:

LiLi1992 said:

As for Beyonce, it is one of the best live performers of the last decade.
I am absolutely not her fan, I like the whole no more than 10 songs, but she has the looks, voice and energy.

I feel the presence of Rihanna and Katy Perry everywhere is much stronger than Beyonce, although she is much better artist than they are. So they are better examples of overrated artists.

I disagree. And that performance you posted was a piece of shit! Whether or not a person has talent and whether they are over-rated is a matter of personal opinion, I suppose. I don't know anything about Katy Perry and I HATE Rhianna but I don't think neither is nearly as over-rated and over-exposed as Beyonce.

And as far as me naming singers who I considered better than Michael Jackson, sorry, the list is just too long for me to type. Although I was never a fan, I always gave Micheal his props for being one hell of a dancer and live entertainer. But a singer? No. There were way better male vocalists out there. They just never received the same attention because they were SINGERS rather than ENTERTAINERS like he was.

MJ was great in the fact that he did, and specifically in its niche (entertainment) was the best.
Oh, I know a lot of singers who sing better than MJ.
From the obvious: Freddie Mercury, Klaus Meine, Robert Plant, Marvin Gaye, etc. If you carefully read my post, I meant that MJ is not the best in singing, songwriting and dance (although I know the better dancers among the professional dancers, in fact, among the pop / rock artists MJ likely number 1), but he is a complete package, a lot of different abilities. And I asked to name the artists who have more skills on this or higher level that Jackson (sing-dance-writing songs), and I doubt very much that your list is long.

Who is actually better, and deserves the status and place in the show-meringue Jackson?
Be overrated - it means that behind the particular artist there is the crowd of artists who better in the same style.

You discriminate against Beyonce. I'm not her fan, I like not many artists outside of rock music actually, but Beyonce is a good artist, much better than Britney, Rihanna, Katy Perry, and most artists mainstream.

^

No , her singing style is really annoying

I like Freddie Mercury just as much as the next guy and I love his singing, but sometimes...I tend to think that when he sings...he had a hard time controlling his voice no? Like it seems to me that he couldn't do that so well. I guess it was really rough is a good way to describe it? Like, it didn't seem really fluid to me. I think that him and MJ are in the same boat when it comes to being vocalists in some ways. They weren't the best that ever graced music, but they had something special that could connect with the audience while managing to sound decent. Though, they do sound 100X better than half of the shit on that Rolling Stones list.

I also love me some Marvin, but I feel that he's the only one rock fans ever mention. Ever...

Unholyalliance said:

I like Freddie Mercury just as much as the next guy and I love his singing, but sometimes...I tend to think that when he sings...he had a hard time controlling his voice no? Like it seems to me that he couldn't do that so well. I guess it was really rough is a good way to describe it? Like, it didn't seem really fluid to me. I think that him and MJ are in the same boat when it comes to being vocalists in some ways. They weren't the best that ever graced music, but they had something special that could connect with the audience while managing to sound decent. Though, they do sound 100X better than half of the shit on that Rolling Stones list.

I also love me some Marvin, but I feel that he's the only one rock fans ever mention. Ever...

Blasphemy !!!!!
Freddie - a wonderful vocalist. One of the best of all time!

I'm sure that Michael stopped writing and recording songs with Freddie and communicate with him too just because Freddie just eclipsed him on their duet songs. I do not believe the official story (employment of artists), Freddie wanted to work with Michael, I read many books on FM, he respected Michael and he called MJ among his favorite artists.
Michael sounds are usually better in all duets (Paul, Stevie, Mick), but not with Freddie because he is a much better singer.

^ MJ is one of the best vocalists ever IMO though my tastes are even more broad than in the past now. But when I first saw Freddie sing and perform too on Behind The Music, I was like and was afraid to keep watching cause I thought I might like him better than MJ if I keep watching, this was years ago, but now I don't care, they were both great and I'm glad they worked together even if it was just minimal and I can't wait to hear the releases, I loved the State of Shock demo. MJ always outsings whoever he duets with, but you may be right about worrying about their recording together though I think they would have harmonized well.

alphastreet said:

^ MJ is one of the best vocalists ever IMO though my tastes are even more broad than in the past now. But when I first saw Freddie sing and perform too on Behind The Music, I was like and was afraid to keep watching cause I thought I might like him better than MJ if I keep watching, this was years ago, but now I don't care, they were both great and I'm glad they worked together even if it was just minimal and I can't wait to hear the releases, I loved the State of Shock demo. MJ always outsings whoever he duets with, but you may be right about worrying about their recording together though I think they would have harmonized well.

I always thought that Freddie - vocalist No. 1 in the pop / rock music. He's just incredible. My parents were fans of Queen, so I grew up on their songs, but I have to admit that I more often listen to MJ and I have more favorite songs in his repertoire, I can even say that I love their voices about the same, but I can not put them at par on vocals, Freddie is much better as a vocalist: More range, more power, better intonation, more versatility. Although MJ is a good singer, it's true, but not at the level of Fred.

And because our theme is about hate, I hate it when fans MJ specially lowered and humiliated vocals Freddie, because they understand that he is a worthy opponent and stronger of the two of them.
Is it really so hard to admit?

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By the way, I remembered I really dislike Avril Lavigne.

In my childhood she was very, I mean VERY popular. The average music, repetitive images, colored strands of hair, fake cool rocker .... boring.
Irritated by her voice, her songs, her mannerisms, her style. But she was everywhere and there was no escape. Fortunately, I now see her less often.

MJ fans bashed Freddie? Oh no they didn't!!! I'm not a huge Queen fan, but from what I know, I respect them a lot and my dad really likes them, so that's how I knew their music and then through VH1.

LiLi1992 said:

Blasphemy !!!!!

Freddie - a wonderful vocalist. One of the best of all time!

I'm sure that Michael stopped writing and recording songs with Freddie and communicate with him too just because Freddie just eclipsed him on their duet songs. I do not believe the official story (employment of artists), Freddie wanted to work with Michael, I read many books on FM, he respected Michael and he called MJ among his favorite artists.
Michael sounds are usually better in all duets (Paul, Stevie, Mick), but not with Freddie because he is a much better singer.

I actually got that impression as well.

I do think that Freddie's voice is way more powerful, but I think that, out of the both of them, MJ could control his voice better. At the end of the day, they both were great vocalists, but each of them had their own strengths and weaknesses. The one ability they did share was to be able to connect with their audiences so fondly. At least Freddie isn't anything like JM in that respect. That would be beyond horrifying.

I do agree that MJ sounded way better than everyone else that did a duet with, especially Paul McCartney.

LiLi1992 said:

kitbradley said:

I disagree. And that performance you posted was a piece of shit! Whether or not a person has talent and whether they are over-rated is a matter of personal opinion, I suppose. I don't know anything about Katy Perry and I HATE Rhianna but I don't think neither is nearly as over-rated and over-exposed as Beyonce.

And as far as me naming singers who I considered better than Michael Jackson, sorry, the list is just too long for me to type. Although I was never a fan, I always gave Micheal his props for being one hell of a dancer and live entertainer. But a singer? No. There were way better male vocalists out there. They just never received the same attention because they were SINGERS rather than ENTERTAINERS like he was.

MJ was great in the fact that he did, and specifically in its niche (entertainment) was the best.
Oh, I know a lot of singers who sing better than MJ.
From the obvious: Freddie Mercury, Klaus Meine, Robert Plant, Marvin Gaye, etc. If you carefully read my post, I meant that MJ is not the best in singing, songwriting and dance (although I know the better dancers among the professional dancers, in fact, among the pop / rock artists MJ likely number 1), but he is a complete package, a lot of different abilities. And I asked to name the artists who have more skills on this or higher level that Jackson (sing-dance-writing songs), and I doubt very much that your list is long.

Who is actually better, and deserves the status and place in the show-meringue Jackson?
Be overrated - it means that behind the particular artist there is the crowd of artists who better in the same style.

You discriminate against Beyonce. I'm not her fan, I like not many artists outside of rock music actually, but Beyonce is a good artist, much better than Britney, Rihanna, Katy Perry, and most artists mainstream.

I wish you stop saying your not Beyonce fan because you have already PROVEN that you are...LOL

I think everyone in here said that she is a much better singer than Brittany, Rihanna, Perry (which has been your ONLY silly arguement) but your blinded fandom for some odd reason keeps skipping over MAJOR critical points in what makes her overrated but Ive come to the conclusion that you purposely just rather ignore those facts because "you not a fan" ... BUT OKAY its a free country

ON MICHAEL JACKSON:

Ive held back from commenting on the MJ portion of this thread because I just dont have the energy to type out long ass essays refuting some of these ridiculous claims LOL

Alot of you summed it up pretty well though on what makes Michael great. His talent is beyond being just a singer and entertainer. His achievements, innovations and contributions has alot to do with the praise and well deserved accolades that he has achieved. Of course their are better singers but Michael was a great singer.. All singers have strong and weak areas. He was a EXCEPTIONAL dancer in a variety of different areas and what makes that even more special is the fact that he was never trained... Great live performer, Fast as well as slow songs able to CONNECT, CONVEY sincere EMOTION something that is rare and is something that lacks in TODAYS crop of POP entertainers mostly ALL of them and for a pop singer a great songwriter that made good pop songs..innovator, etc must I go on cause I can go for days???

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provened ?