Forget about the talkbox. That's a Model D in front of him.

One of my fave vidoes, he seemed lik he was having a helluva time.

Roger was a majr talent.

Every time I think about what happened 2 him, I get angry.

^^In one of the Original 7ven interviews, Jesse said that Larry pulled out a gun on him, Morris, & Jerome.

MickyDolenz said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:

MickyDolenz said:

^^In one of the Original 7ven interviews, Jesse said that Larry pulled out a gun on him, Morris, & Jerome.

Lol what?

It's here. I think it's about halfway through the video. Jesse starts talking about a tour The Time did with Zapp in the early 1980's.

Original 7ven

Time was not on Roger's side, and us getting tired of "that sound" (...as Donnie suggested might happen) never came to be. May Roger be resting peacefully.

MickyDolenz said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:

MickyDolenz said: Lol what?

It's here. I think it's about halfway through the video. Jesse starts talking about a tour The Time did with Zapp in the early 1980's.

Original 7ven

LOL at Jesse and Morris "Same gun." So wrong but had to laugh.

LittleBLUECorvette said:

MickyDolenz said:

It's here. I think it's about halfway through the video. Jesse starts talking about a tour The Time did with Zapp in the early 1980's.

Original 7ven

LOL at Jesse and Morris "Same gun." So wrong but had to laugh.

It's around the 15 minute mark when they start talking about it. Damn that was wrong and they was laughing their asses off too. But I don't think they meant it like that though. But it was funny.

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missfee said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:

LOL at Jesse and Morris "Same gun." So wrong but had to laugh.

Hmm interview is kind of long, do you guys know the specific minute they say this so I scroll to it?

Maybe around the 12 minute mark.

LittleBLUECorvette said:

missfee said:

Hmm interview is kind of long, do you guys know the specific minute they say this so I scroll to it?

Maybe around the 12 minute mark.

Thanks. I just buckled down and found it.

Graycap23 said:

Roger was a majr talent.

Every time I think about what happened 2 him, I get angry.

I do too because it still makes no sense what happened. Even all these years later. Some major details it seems to me have been left out...but SOMEBODY does know what happened and what was going on either between the brothers or whatever Larry was going through that escalated.

missfee said:

Graycap23 said:

Roger was a majr talent.

Every time I think about what happened 2 him, I get angry.

I do too because it still makes no sense what happened. Even all these years later. Some major details it seems to me have been left out...but SOMEBODY does know what happened and what was going on either between the brothers or whatever Larry was going through that escalated.

I never felt like it was anything more than a matter of pure jealousy. Coupled with the fact that Larry's heart & mind just weren't "right" from the beginning, I think he just felt that Roger was getting too much credit for the success of Zapp as the charismatic front man, and was probably on some "you're nothing without me" type shit. As brothers, I always felt it was just a crime of passion, particularly in the way Larry shot Roger first, then turned around and took his own life. There Roger was; in the studio working his ass off for another hit and determined to blow-up once again (...with or without Larry), and there Larry was lurking in the shadows; probably feeling like a giant slice of Shit Cake. My feeling has always been that Larry probably felt like if he wasn't going to be equally recognized for his contribution to Roger's success, then he wasn't about to let Roger continue on without him. Twisted?: Yes! Certainly a sad and tragic loss of two very creative & talented souls. As much as I hate what Larry did, I somehow hope there's room in the universe for him to have found forgiveness, and that the two of them may be resting peacefully in the spirit of brotherly love, after all.

PDogz said:

missfee said:

I do too because it still makes no sense what happened. Even all these years later. Some major details it seems to me have been left out...but SOMEBODY does know what happened and what was going on either between the brothers or whatever Larry was going through that escalated.

I never felt like it was anything more than a matter of pure jealousy. Coupled with the fact that Larry's heart & mind just weren't "right" from the beginning, I think he just felt that Roger was getting too much credit for the success of Zapp as the charismatic front man, and was probably on some "you're nothing without me" type shit. As brothers, I always felt it was just a crime of passion, particularly in the way Larry shot Roger first, then turned around and took his own life. There Roger was; in the studio working his ass off for another hit and determined to blow-up once again (...with or without Larry), and there Larry was lurking in the shadows; probably feeling like a giant slice of Shit Cake. My feeling has always been that Larry probably felt like if he wasn't going to be equally recognized for his contribution to Roger's success, then he wasn't about to let Roger continue on without him. Twisted?: Yes! Certainly a sad and tragic loss of two very creative & talented souls. As much as I hate what Larry did, I somehow hope there's room in the universe for him to have found forgiveness, and that the two of them may be resting peacefully in the spirit of brotherly love, after all.

Interesting view on it.

1sotrue said:

Can't watch this video just watched Unsung Zapp episode very sad. Roget Troutman >>> creative genius

That Unsung episode was so hard to watch. Very, very sad indeed.

missfee said:

PDogz said:

I never felt like it was anything more than a matter of pure jealousy. Coupled with the fact that Larry's heart & mind just weren't "right" from the beginning, I think he just felt that Roger was getting too much credit for the success of Zapp as the charismatic front man, and was probably on some "you're nothing without me" type shit. As brothers, I always felt it was just a crime of passion, particularly in the way Larry shot Roger first, then turned around and took his own life. There Roger was; in the studio working his ass off for another hit and determined to blow-up once again (...with or without Larry), and there Larry was lurking in the shadows; probably feeling like a giant slice of Shit Cake. My feeling has always been that Larry probably felt like if he wasn't going to be equally recognized for his contribution to Roger's success, then he wasn't about to let Roger continue on without him. Twisted?: Yes! Certainly a sad and tragic loss of two very creative & talented souls. As much as I hate what Larry did, I somehow hope there's room in the universe for him to have found forgiveness, and that the two of them may be resting peacefully in the spirit of brotherly love, after all.

Interesting view on it.

Yeah, instead of killing his more successful brother, Larry should have taken a page from the Catfish/Bootsy playbook (two funky brothers that I'm certain the Troutman's were more than familiar with).

PDogz said:

missfee said:

I do too because it still makes no sense what happened. Even all these years later. Some major details it seems to me have been left out...but SOMEBODY does know what happened and what was going on either between the brothers or whatever Larry was going through that escalated.

I never felt like it was anything more than a matter of pure jealousy. Coupled with the fact that Larry's heart & mind just weren't "right" from the beginning, I think he just felt that Roger was getting too much credit for the success of Zapp as the charismatic front man, and was probably on some "you're nothing without me" type shit. As brothers, I always felt it was just a crime of passion, particularly in the way Larry shot Roger first, then turned around and took his own life. There Roger was; in the studio working his ass off for another hit and determined to blow-up once again (...with or without Larry), and there Larry was lurking in the shadows; probably feeling like a giant slice of Shit Cake. My feeling has always been that Larry probably felt like if he wasn't going to be equally recognized for his contribution to Roger's success, then he wasn't about to let Roger continue on without him. Twisted?: Yes! Certainly a sad and tragic loss of two very creative & talented souls. As much as I hate what Larry did, I somehow hope there's room in the universe for him to have found forgiveness, and that the two of them may be resting peacefully in the spirit of brotherly love, after all.

Probably true. There was a guy that played 4 one of Bulls Championship teams named Bison Dele (original name was Brian Williams). He brother did something similiar. I was writing a movie script about this but never got around 2 finishing it.