and the Fact that He can Make two types of Songs Speaks alot about the Cat's Talents because alot of acts can't make half of one solidly let alone 2.give it Up to the Modern Day R&B King Of SOUL R.Kelly

mistermaxxx said:

He Bridged a Gap of R&B,Pop,Hip/Hop&made it all work.[/quote]


yeah, that was some huge gap. it must've taken a musical genius to bridge 3 relatively similar genres like that.

AaronUnlimited said:

yeah, that was some huge gap. it must've taken a musical genius to bridge 3 relatively similar genres like that.[/quote]MJ&Prince couldn't pull what R.Kelly did with All Styles working at Once&Getting Props at all 3 at once.what that Cat has Pulled off thus Far is Right ON Time!!R&B is hard to maintain props in once you go Pop&Hip-Hop is Selective at who gets in&R.Kelly knocked all 3 Doors down.I'm not putting Him up with MJ&Prince for a Career because He has a Ways to go Yet,but if I go By the last Decade til Now He is Leading the Way as a Artist&still getting Props.

AaronUnlimited said:

Is there such thing called Pop-Rock??? And who was that said that someone was a genius for bridging that kind of a gap???

R&B

is totally different from

POP...and
'
'R&B POP', is similar, but different to

HIP-HOP, which includes RAP music AND R&B...

so they could be similar, but VERY different in many other ways...
[This message was edited Fri Feb 21 17:40:43 PST 2003 by Starmist7]

mistermaxxx said:

Of course I've heard of them, no need to be facetious. However I don't feel they are relevant to modern R&B or modern pop music in general.

R. Kelly's own songs (not talking about stuff he has written for others) all sound the same to me... soul-by-numbers formulaic power ballads with some weedy vocals, unconvincing lyrics and a cheesy choral background. He has never ever had anything interesting to say in his music. To call him a "king of soul" - when that title in earlier days would have been applied to people like Marvin Gaye, Al Green, Curtis Mayfield, Stevie Wonder etc - is just ridiculous. He may be prolific, but he sure puts out a lot of shit.

His real talent lies in knowing who are the hottest people to work with. But he isn't half as talented as he seems to believe he is.

ian said:

Like I said you Never have Heard of Michael Jackson,Quincy Jones&Ronald Isley because if you have you'd know they have given Him Much Props as a Writer&Producer.Peabo Bryson said He wasn't much of a Fan of R.Kelly's Singing but Said that the Cat is Gifted as a Writer&Producer.Bet you haven't heard of Peabo Bryson???King of Modern Day SOul.I Never said the 60's,70's,80's,.you can Hate all you Want but when Major Players give it Up for the Man who Looks like the Hater&who looks like they are on Point??

R Kelly is not what I would call an artist.

His main objective when making music looks and sounds like it is to get paid.

The production Rkelly is doing know is the same shit Jodeci was doing almost a decade ago.

Sorry, Rkelly has not shown me much as far as being a musical artist or even a muscian.

Im still waiting for rkelly to mic some things up, but everytime he just sticks to that formula.

He reminds me of the 6 ft 11 guy that can't dunk a basketball. On the court we call those guys, a waste of talent.

Rkelly is a waste of talent.

It sounds like he is holding back, besides how in the world can any mature sain person listen to his lyrics post his high school love affairs?

Shit is sickening.

As far as his music goes, it is average.

His success only reflects the people's lack of ability to critically examine a piece of music.

It is like fat fucks wondering why they fat and all they do is eat MCdonalds all day.


Junk music, and just like junk food people want it.

XLBubba said:

You thought alot of Him to say all of that? what Artist of any Musical Weight doesn't have a Formula for Success?? Please Do Share?

DavidEye said:

I don't have an attachment either way, if he was silly enough to commit crimes that go against the country and state he's in then it's likely punishment of some form will beckon. This said the details of the case are sketchy to say the least, the media doesn't even know the girl's exact age or details as yet and it goes to court March apparently. A bootleg video available to the public would seem the only damning evidence if he pays off the girl not to testify when called. We'll see... you may well get your pound of flesh.

mistermaxxx said:

A point to add is both his vocals and lyrics have came on leaps and bounds over the years and this is evident on the current album. He's still not Shakespeare but the sometimes corny lyrics are kept to a minimum on this new LP while the composition and vibe is truly on point.

Essence said:

YES INDEED!!!

His lyrics have not leaped anywhere.

Sure his vocals are better, but that is do the advance in recording technologies.

Rkelly has the potential to be considered a great artist, but he will go done as one that could not tap into his talents. All his music sounds the same since 12 play.

He has not evolved or really tried anything new. Boring.

If you have heard 12 play, you have heard all of Rkelly's albums.

R. Kelly is a very emotional singer. He should stop perpetrating and get back to his roots -- gospel. That is where his true calling is. Until he goes back to gospel, his life is going to continue to be effed up.

XLBubba said:

for you&a few others.but in the Rest of the World We are Digging R.Kelly&His SOulful Self.R.Kelly is the Man in R&B nowadays in a Breeze.

ian said:

You don't got that vibe. She has.

R. Kelly has Mariah disease...keeps making the same album...over and over...could probably write a decent song but rarely exerts the effort...he knows he can coast along on repetition...fun but forgettable r+b/pop

Dag man, if there's any kind of bullshi* pop music that I would had EVER, or have to call 'GOOD' OR EXCELLENT AT ANYTIME, R.KELLY WILL ALWAYS BE ON TOP OF MY LIST.
[This message was edited Sun Feb 23 14:12:18 PST 2003 by Starmist7]

What was the last song by R.Kelly that i really liked? hmmm let's see...oh yeah it was "She's Got That Vibe". Actually i don't like him and i think he wastes whatever talent he's got in pointless ballads that sound just the same with the occasional R&B club song which usually don't sound any good either.

R.Kelly Is Da baddest Cat out there Now&has the Baddest Set out there now!

mistermaxxx said:

Can you be objective?

XLBubba said:

Yes I Can.I wasn't all that Crazy about His TP.Com&The Album with Jay Z was kinda Corny IMHO.but He came back this time.what's up with you? You act like R.Kelly took your American Dreamm or something??

XLBubba said:

Can it really be a waste if he doesn't have talent to begin with?

mistermaxxx said:

It's not "hate", it's called "having a fucking opinion". And why would I give a shit what MJ, Quincy, or Isley say about R. Kelly? Why would that alter my own opinion of the man? I stand by what I said. If you have a point to make, then make it, otherwise give this dumb overcapitalised shit a rest please.

Missthundercat said:

Good point.
[This message was edited Thu Feb 27 18:19:50 PST 2003 by Starmist7]

Starmist7 said:

I will agree about that, Rkelly has the potential.

XLBubba said:

Make up your Mind do You hate R.Kelly or Do you Like Him? you Flip-Flop more than a Politcian.

mistermaxxx said:

Well, I am glad to see you are learning how to type.

Now, if you could learn how to develop meaning from what you read, then the earth would move.

It is not about liking or hating Rkelly.

It is about muscians that have abilities to re-define music, but yet they would rather stay in that comfort zone they have created, namely RKelly.

He reminds me of that 6 ft 11 guy that can dunk.

XLBubba said:

You think alot of the Man to Constantly to try Make a Point of Knocking Him.

How else would I be able to make any valid statements about his music if I did not have an in dept listening of his music?

mistermaxxx said: