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Sammy Hagar: "New Van Halen Record Is All Old Stuff"

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November 21, 2011

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Last week, Van Halen released a picture that proved beyond any doubt that they had signed to Interscope.

The photo showed them at an "undisclosed venue" in Los Angeles, but according to the Van Halen News Desk, it was at the Roxy in Los Angeles. They supposedly shot a video there.

We've been hearing for months that their first LP with David Lee Roth since 1984 is practically finished, but confirming anything when it comes to Van Halen is extraordinarily difficult. Needless to say, none of them are jumping on the phone for interviews.

Luckily, we happened to be checking in with Sammy Hagar last week – and he was more than happy to share his thoughts on the situation.

We're hearing that Van Halen signed to Interscope this week.


What? VH? Van Halen? I don't think . . . How long has it been since they did a record? And that last one doesn't count. You have to go back to 1995. For them to take that long to make a record, I don't think it's ever going to happen. If it does, it better be good. Oh man. It actually might be. I'm not dogging them. I don't understand why they couldn't do something by now. [Laughs] Though I kind of do understand.

This seems legit. I think they actually, for real, signed to Interscope.


I thought they signed to Sony. Hmmm . . . Interesting. I'll be the first guy waiting in line at the record store, if I could find one anymore. I'll be really curious. I think they owe the fans that. I would love to see them make a great record. They have some of the most loyal fans in rock, and they've been treated so, so bad these last 20 years. I'm a real fan friendly guy.

The fans aren't too happy that they threw Michael Anthony out of the band.


It didn't bother me when they threw me out. I'm a solo artist. I can start a new band. But Mike? He's the most loyal guy, and the best bass player in the world – and the best background singer on the planet. His vocal sound is as much a part of Van Halen as anyone's. When they threw him out, I just thought "WHY? This is so wrong. This is so damned wrong!" Then to go back to Dave, FINALLY – but they threw Mike out first.

Once again, it's not a fan friendly band. Eddie could have played a solo album with Wolfie. He could have produced it and gone on tour and played theaters with him. He could have done so many different things. He did not have to make Wolfie the bass player in Van Halen.

I find it interesting that David Lee Roth has barely made a peep in public since he rejoined the band. Before that, he wasn't exactly a press shy guy.


Yeah, this isn't very Dave-like. Obviously, he's trying to make it work. Look, I've been there. It's not an easy camp. It's gotten crazier and wackier, every day. I think that Dave has just learned that if he wants to make it work, he needs to shut up and hang in there and do what he can, and do what they say. It's a very strange situation.

Look, back in the day, Dave was the boss. He was running the damn show. When I came in, I was the boss. I was running the show, but I didn't want that job. It was always, "Well, what do you guys want to do?" They'd be like, "I don't know. What do you want to do?" Then all of a sudden, it became this wicked, freaking dictatorship – and nothing has happened since.

I think nothing would be more fascinating than a Some Kind of Monster-style documentary about the making of this new record. Can you even imagine?


I'd be curious to be a fly on that wall. I heard this record is old outtakes from the old days. I mean, stuff from before I even joined the band. I heard this five years ago though. Michael Anthony was curious if his background vocals would wind up on the album. I don't think it's a bad idea. It's kind of interesting. Bob Seger did it, and so did the Rolling Stones.

I think it's an interesting thing to do in your old age if you can't come up with fresh, good stuff – or you can't get along. Because from what I heard, they aren't working with new material. Ed and Dave didn't actually write new songs. They took old stuff from previous sessions, and then maybe Dave had to go in and add vocals because they just had scat vocals, or even no vocal part at all.

That's bizarre, because in the few interviews that he does, Ed is always talking about how many great new guitar parts he's written.


Ed talks really weird about all that stuff recently. He goes, "I have all this music! So much music . . . " Well, they really aren't songs [laughs]. They're really not. It was always easy for me to write songs with Ed. He had all these parts, and I had these ideas. I'd be like, "Oh, go to B over there for a bridge – write a bridge, Ed." He'd do it, and it would be some bad ass shit. But it wasn't like he wrote instrumentals and I just had to write lyrics over them, like I do now with Joe Satriani. Joe writes friggin' instrumentals. Ed doesn't have any songs. I'm sorry. I love the guy's guitar stuff, but play me a song, will you?


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Reply #1 posted 11/21/11 6:27pm

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Interesting.

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #2 posted 11/21/11 6:31pm

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I had a hunch lol

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Reply #3 posted 01/03/12 6:04pm

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I wonder if Sam has heard it yet.

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #4 posted 01/03/12 6:16pm

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Honestly I believe Sammy he nailed every fact of this band in that short interview, basically Eddie doesn't know how to run things, and if shit goes wrong he throws u under the bus, ask Gary Cherone how cool Eddie is.

"We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F
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Reply #5 posted 01/03/12 8:38pm

sunlite

I smell some "chickenshit" in the air!

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Reply #6 posted 01/04/12 3:04am

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"I'm sorry. I love the guy's guitar stuff, but play me a song, will you?!"

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

https://youtu.be/CVwv9LZMah0
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Reply #7 posted 01/09/12 2:14pm

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All eyes and ears have been on Van Halen recently! First there was confirmation of a new album, then its title was revealed, tour dates announced, and finally a special small club show in New York. Now, thanks to MelodicRock.com, we have the what is reportedly the track listing for the long-awaited new album.

‘A Different Kind Of Truth’ is Van Halen’s 12th studio album, their first in more than 13 years (since the Gary Cherone-fronted ‘Van Halen 3′), and most importantly, it’s the first with David Lee Roth since ’1984′. ADKOT was recorded at Eddie Van Halen’s 5150 studio and was produced by Eddie along with John Shanks and Ross Hogarth.

According to a “world exclusive” report from MelodicRock.com, the final track listing is:

1. ‘Tattoo’
2. ‘She’s The Woman’
3. ‘You and Your Blues’
4. ‘China Town’
5. ‘Blood and Fire’
6. ‘Bullethead’
7. ‘As Is’
8. ‘Honeybabysweetiedoll’
9. ‘The Trouble With Never’
10. ‘Outta Space’
11. ‘Stay Frosty’
12. ‘Big River’
13. ‘Beats Workin”

So what can we expect from Van Halen in 2012? Judging from the snippet of the song ‘Tattoo’, it sounds pretty much like prime Halen action! ’She’s The Woman’ and ‘Bullethead’ both date back to the band’s earliest days playing the Whiskey-A-Go-Go. An early version of ‘She’s The Woman’ actually appeared on their original 1977 Warner Bros. demo — at the Cafe Wha? club show in NYC this week, they played ‘She’s The Woman’ for what may have been the first time since the mid ’70s! We’re not sure if ‘Outta Space’ is a cover of the old Billy Preston song, but we’re guessing it’s probably not. Then again, Kool & The Gang are opening up the tour, so who knows, maybe the boys have been feeling the funk as of late.

After more than 30 years with Warner Bros., the new album will be released Feb. 7 via their new deal with Interscope Records and will come in a regular edition, as well as a deluxe package that includes a DVD with four acoustic performance videos titled ‘The Downtown Sessions.’ Those songs are: ‘Panama,’ ‘You And Your Blues,’ ‘You Really Got Me’ and ‘Beautiful Girls.’

It seems safe to say that Van Halen are back, and ready to roll out the party once again. Now if they can hold it all together, it really will be a different kind of truth indeed.

Ultimate Classic Rock

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #8 posted 01/09/12 2:52pm

sunlite

Yeah and so what Sammy? "Right Now" instrumental was used in the movie "Wildlife in the early 80's. Then it was recycled and became a huge hit in the 90's. So why talk trash? Never did care for the watered down sound of Van Hagar.

Prince does this also. So who cares? Ed is prolific, but everything he writes doesn't always fit the classic Van Halen sound. That is obviously what they're going for with this record. Spammy's hatin' because he knows that this record is more anticapted than anything he's ever been a part of.

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