Timmy84 said:

RKJCNE said:

Beyonce is the most popular "R&B" artist of the last decade. Does that mean she deserved those awards? Does that mean she bought them? Does that make her talented?

not necessarily is my answer to all of those questions. Put those awards in context and many won't seem that outrageous for her to win considering her hype.

Let's just remember how much these awards don't mean.

A better pic/gif for this would involve Homer throwing the Grammy down and then having the Grammy thrown back at him.

I couldn't find that one! Had to go for second best.

Clearly adele then all the bandwagoners will leave her for someone else as always.

RKJCNE said:

Timmy84 said:

A better pic/gif for this would involve Homer throwing the Grammy down and then having the Grammy thrown back at him.

I couldn't find that one! Had to go for second best.

I feel ya. There's this gif of Michael Jackson blinking and staring in dead silence (from his 1983 interview tape) and I can't find it on unreliable Google.

babybugz said:

Clearly adele then all the bandwagoners will leave her for someone else as always.

Those punks would leave once someone's momentum cools. Fuck them.

Timmy84 said:

RKJCNE said:

I couldn't find that one! Had to go for second best.

I feel ya. There's this gif of Michael Jackson blinking and staring in dead silence (from his 1983 interview tape) and I can't find it on unreliable Google.

There just needs to be a .gif search engine.

RKJCNE said:

Timmy84 said:

I feel ya. There's this gif of Michael Jackson blinking and staring in dead silence (from his 1983 interview tape) and I can't find it on unreliable Google.

There just needs to be a .gif search engine.

Right. It's hard to find the GIFs on TUMBLR since the tags are ridiculous.

Here's an article from Hits Daily Double about this year's possible Grammy nods:

Who'll be "Rolling" at this year's ceremony? The red-hot singer, who was voted Best New Artist three years ago, is a cinch to be in the running for Album, Record and Song of the Year.

ADELE ABOVE ALL AT THIS YEAR’S GRAMMYS Our Resident Grammy Expert Paul Grein Says U.K. Pop Diva Looks Like a Lock, but There’s Still Plenty of Action to Come November 21, 2011 by Paul Grein We all know that Adele will dominate the nominations for the 54th annual Grammy Awards, which will be announced Wednesday, Nov. 30, on the nationally televised CBS special. The red-hot singer, who was voted Best New Artist three years ago, is a cinch to be in the running for Album, Record and Song of the Year. But who is Adele likely to square off against in those marquee categories? That’s harder to say, but I’ve taken some educated guesses. It’s not easy to predict the Grammy nominations, largely because there are so many entries. This year, 854 recordings are competing for Record of the Year. Also, there’s a complicated, two-step process for selecting the nominees in the top four categories. First, the broad membership of the Recording Academy has a chance to vote. Then, a committee selects the final nominees from lists of the top vote-getters. ALBUM OF THE YEAR Adele’s 21 is all but certain to be nominated. Paul Simon’s So Beautiful or So What and Nicki Minaj’s Pink Friday also have a very good chance. This would be Simon’s eighth nomination in this category. Minaj would be the first female rapper to make the finals since Missy Elliott in 2002. Lady Gaga was nominated the last two years with The Fame and The Fame Monster. Born This Way could easily put her in the finals for the third year in a row, something no artist has done since the Beatles were nominated five years in a row from 1965 through 1969. But there’s a complicating factor: A widely publicized 99-cent sale on Born This Way tarnished the album’s image. A Country album has made the finals in four of the last five years. This year’s strongest candidate is Jason Aldean’s My Kinda Party, which is the year’s best-selling country album. (Aldean and Gaga were the first performers announced for the TV special on which the nominations will be revealed. That doesn’t mean they’re automatic nominees, but it suggests the Grammy winds are blowing their way.) Taylor Swift, who won this award with her previous album, Fearless, may return to the finals with Speak Now. The only hitch: follow-ups to Album of the Year winners generally have a hard time making the finals. Swift will probably just miss, especially if the panel follows the lead of the Country Music Assn., which selected Aldean over Swift for their Album of the Year award. Kanye West, who was nominated in this category with his first three albums, has two albums in the running: My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy and Watch the Throne, his collaboration with Jay-Z. They’ll probably cancel each other out in the voting. Other leading candidates include Tony Bennett’s Duets II, Lil Wayne’s Tha Carter IV, Foo Fighters’ Wasting Light, Rihanna’s Loud, Jill Scott’s The Light of the Sun, The Civil Wars’ Barton Hallow, Foster the People’s Torches and Glen Campbell’s Ghost on the Canvas. RECORD OF THE YEAR Adele was nominated in this category three years ago with “Chasing Pavements.” She’s sure to be back in the finals with “Rolling in the Deep.” (“Someone Like You” wasn’t entered, so there’s no chance of her splitting her votes.) Three other slots will probably be filled by Nicki Minaj’s “Super Bass,” Katy Perry’s “Firework” and “Moves Like Jagger” by Maroon 5 featuring Christina Aguilera. Three tracks are leading contenders for the fifth and final slot: Lady Gaga’s “You and I,” Foster the People’s “Pumped Up Kicks” and Christina Perri’s “Jar of Hearts.” Other possibilities include Mumford & Sons’ “The Cave,” Paul Simon’s “So Beautiful or So What,” Coldplay’s “Paradise,” Wiz Khalifa’s “Black and Yellow” and five collaborations: “I Need A Doctor” by Dr. Dre featuring Eminem & Skyler Gray; “We Found Love” by Rihanna featuring Calvin Harris; “Stereo Hearts” by Gym Class Heroes featuring Adam Levine; “Give Me Everything” by Pitbull featuring Ne-Yo, Afrojack & Nayer; and “5 O’Clock” by T-Pain featuring Wiz Khalifa and Lily Allen. The Band Perry’s country crossover smash “If I Die Young” would have had a good chance at a nomination, but it was released before the start of the eligibility period (Oct. 1, 2010 through Sept. 30, 2011). SONG OF THE YEAR Three of the likely Record of the Year nominees are likely to show up in this songwriter’s category: “Rolling in the Deep” (which Adele co-wrote with Paul Epworth); “Firework” (which Katy Perry co-wrote with Ester Dean, Mikkel Ericksen, Tor Erik Hermansen and Sandy Wilhelm); and Nicki Minaj’s “Super Bass” (written by Ester Dean). Seven songs are leading contenders for the two remaining spots. Lady Gaga’s “You and I,” Paul Simon’s “So Beautiful or So What,” “Jar of Hearts” (which Christina Perri co-wrote with Drew Lawrence and Barrett Yeretsian); Mumford & Sons’ “The Cave” (which was written by the four band members); Foster the People’s “Pumped Up Kicks” (written by group leader Mark Foster); Pink’s “F**kin’ Perfect” (which she co-wrote with Max Martin and Shellback); and “Moves Like Jagger” (which Adam Levine co-wrote with Benjamin Levin, Ammar Malik and Shellback). Other possibilities include Coldplay’s “Paradise” (written by the band); Rihanna featuring Calvin Harris’ “We Found Love” (written by Harris); Glen Campbell’s “Ghost on the Canvas” (written by Paul Westerberg); Sara Evans’ “A Little Bit Stronger” (written by Luke Laird, Hillary Lindsey and Hillary Scott); and Wiz Khalifa’s “Black and Yellow” (which he co-wrote with Mikkel Ericksen and Tor Erik Hermansen). BEST NEW ARTIST Nicki Minaj has an excellent chance of becoming the first Rap artist to win in this category since Arrested Development took the prize for 1992. Look for her competitors to include Foster the People, The Band Perry and Christina Perri. Gospel singer Le’Andria Johnson, Americana duo The Civil Wars and rapper Wiz Khalifa are the leading candidates for the fifth slot. Other possibilities include Jackie Evancho, J. Cole, Hot Chelle Rae, Miguel, Bon Iver, the Cataracs, Thompson Square and Andy Grammer. Paul Grein writes the weekly Chart Watch blogs for Yahoo.com. He has a keen understanding of the Grammy mindset, but don’t ask him to explain how Esperanza Spalding won last year.

I think Tony Bennett's "Duets II", Kanye's "My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy" and Adele's "21" are likely to be nominated for the AOTY. That's all I got. They may try to throw in some other nods from different genres to appear cool and in touch. They always do that and then vote for the Tony Bennett's of the industry. They're bias like the Oscars when it comes the recognizing modern talent. I don't believe in the "making up for the past" awards. But that's another story.

Here's the real question though: Who's has the better album, Kanye or Adele? Just on artistic merits. Forget about Kanye's past tantrums and douchebagness, forget about Adele being a top seller this year and releasing two great singles that dominated sales and radio.

Musicslave said:

I think Tony Bennett's "Duets II", Kanye's "My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy" and Adele's "21" are likely to be nominated for the AOTY. That's all I got. They may try to throw in some other nods from different genres to appear cool and in touch. They always do that and then vote for the Tony Bennett's of the industry. They're bias like the Oscars when it comes the recognizing modern talent. I don't believe in the "making up for the past" awards. But that's another story.

Here's the real question though: Who's has the better album, Kanye or Adele? Just on artistic merits. Forget about Kanye's past tantrums and douchebagness, forget about Adele being a top seller this year and releasing two great singles that dominated sales and radio.

The Grammys are VERY biased... nobody takes that shit seriously who has a brain AND to answer your question unbiasedly.... Adele...

I was not impressed at all by Kanye. I dont think Adeles music is a masterpiece either but compared to what her peers puts out and usually puts out her music was like fresh... never thought a song like Rolling In The Deep would be so popular... there is nothing pop about it at all... if were speaking in artistic terms...

Musicslave said:

I think Tony Bennett's "Duets II", Kanye's "My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy" and Adele's "21" are likely to be nominated for the AOTY. That's all I got. They may try to throw in some other nods from different genres to appear cool and in touch. They always do that and then vote for the Tony Bennett's of the industry. They're bias like the Oscars when it comes the recognizing modern talent. I don't believe in the "making up for the past" awards. But that's another story.

Here's the real question though: Who's has the better album, Kanye or Adele? Just on artistic merits. Forget about Kanye's past tantrums and douchebagness, forget about Adele being a top seller this year and releasing two great singles that dominated sales and radio.

I forgot about Kanye's album, it definitely stands a chance for a nod. Kanye may have just as many nods as Adele... Gaga possibly won't. Nicki, I can definitely see, getting a BNA nod...

mjscarousal said:

Musicslave said:

I think Tony Bennett's "Duets II", Kanye's "My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy" and Adele's "21" are likely to be nominated for the AOTY. That's all I got. They may try to throw in some other nods from different genres to appear cool and in touch. They always do that and then vote for the Tony Bennett's of the industry. They're bias like the Oscars when it comes the recognizing modern talent. I don't believe in the "making up for the past" awards. But that's another story.

Here's the real question though: Who's has the better album, Kanye or Adele? Just on artistic merits. Forget about Kanye's past tantrums and douchebagness, forget about Adele being a top seller this year and releasing two great singles that dominated sales and radio.

The Grammys are VERY biased... nobody takes that shit seriously who has a brain AND to answer your question unbiasedly.... Adele...

I was not impressed at all by Kanye. I dont think Adeles music is a masterpiece either but compared to what her peers puts out and usually puts out her music was like fresh... never thought a song like Rolling In The Deep would be so popular... there is nothing pop about it at all... if were speaking in artistic terms...

Cool. Thanks for your opinion. Yeah, I think most music lovers don't take the Grammys seriously. I do think Adele success is great but an anomaly in such a corrupt industry.

Musicslave said:

mjscarousal said:

The Grammys are VERY biased... nobody takes that shit seriously who has a brain AND to answer your question unbiasedly.... Adele...

I was not impressed at all by Kanye. I dont think Adeles music is a masterpiece either but compared to what her peers puts out and usually puts out her music was like fresh... never thought a song like Rolling In The Deep would be so popular... there is nothing pop about it at all... if were speaking in artistic terms...

Cool. Thanks for your opinion. Yeah, I think most music lovers don't take the Grammys seriously. I do think Adele success is great but an anomaly in such a corrupt industry.

Me too. I already know how the industry is, I just dig Adele...

Timmy84 said:

Musicslave said:

I think Tony Bennett's "Duets II", Kanye's "My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy" and Adele's "21" are likely to be nominated for the AOTY. That's all I got. They may try to throw in some other nods from different genres to appear cool and in touch. They always do that and then vote for the Tony Bennett's of the industry. They're bias like the Oscars when it comes the recognizing modern talent. I don't believe in the "making up for the past" awards. But that's another story.

Here's the real question though: Who's has the better album, Kanye or Adele? Just on artistic merits. Forget about Kanye's past tantrums and douchebagness, forget about Adele being a top seller this year and releasing two great singles that dominated sales and radio.

I forgot about Kanye's album, it definitely stands a chance for a nod. Kanye may have just as many nods as Adele... Gaga possibly won't. Nicki, I can definitely see, getting a BNA nod...

I doubt if he'll get as many as Adele (she's gonna be in every possible category) but he definitely deserves a few. Possibly, AOTY and Best Rap/Hip Hop Album.

Musicslave said:

Timmy84 said:

I forgot about Kanye's album, it definitely stands a chance for a nod. Kanye may have just as many nods as Adele... Gaga possibly won't. Nicki, I can definitely see, getting a BNA nod...

I doubt if he'll get as many as Adele (she's gonna be in every possible category) but he definitely deserves a few. Possibly, AOTY and Best Rap/Hip Hop Album.

I forgot: not too many rappers get ROTY/SOTY nods lol

So yeah, I definitely see AOTY, Best Rap Album, Best Rap Performance, blah blah blah. About five.

I'm interested to see the R&B nominees.

neonlights said:

I'm interested to see the R&B nominees.

Speaking of R&B, do you guys think Beyonce's "4" deserves to be nominated for Best R&B Album this year? No, I'm not being funny. I just realized yesterday that she literally always win it with every release.

Musicslave said:

neonlights said:

I'm interested to see the R&B nominees.

Speaking of R&B, do you guys think Beyonce's "4" deserves to be nominated for Best R&B Album this year? No, I'm not being funny. I just realized yesterday that she literally always win it with every release.

She gets away with the Contemporary R&B one. But she might have a hard time winning the actual R&B Album Grammy. That one she never wins.

Timmy84 said:

Musicslave said:

Speaking of R&B, do you guys think Beyonce's "4" deserves to be nominated for Best R&B Album this year? No, I'm not being funny. I just realized yesterday that she literally always win it with every release.

She gets away with the Contemporary R&B one. But she might have a hard time winning the actual R&B Album Grammy. That one she never wins.

Cool. But do you think its the best Contemporary R&B album out this year?

I think Marsha's joint "Late Night, Early Mornings" and Jill Scott's "The Light of the Sun" should be considered for best Contemporary R&B albums.

Musicslave said:

Timmy84 said:

She gets away with the Contemporary R&B one. But she might have a hard time winning the actual R&B Album Grammy. That one she never wins.

Cool. But do you think its the best Contemporary R&B album out this year?

I think Marsha's joint "Late Night, Early Mornings" and Jill Scott's "The Light of the Sun" should be considered for best Contemporary R&B albums.

Considering I didn't buy it I can't say but Marsha's album stands a good chance at winning.

Timmy84 said:

Musicslave said:

Cool. But do you think its the best Contemporary R&B album out this year?

I think Marsha's joint "Late Night, Early Mornings" and Jill Scott's "The Light of the Sun" should be considered for best Contemporary R&B albums.

Considering I didn't buy it I can't say but Marsha's album stands a good chance at winning.

I agree. We'll see.

Musicslave said:

neonlights said:

I'm interested to see the R&B nominees.

Speaking of R&B, do you guys think Beyonce's "4" deserves to be nominated for Best R&B Album this year? No, I'm not being funny. I just realized yesterday that she literally always win it with every release.

No, but unfortunately there's a possibility that she will be nominated given her past with the Grammys.

There's no longer a 'Best Contemporary R&B album' catagory. The Grammys reduced the R&B field to 4 categories - Best R&B Song, Best R&B Album, Best R&B Performance and Best Traditional R&B Performance.

neonlights said:

Musicslave said:

Speaking of R&B, do you guys think Beyonce's "4" deserves to be nominated for Best R&B Album this year? No, I'm not being funny. I just realized yesterday that she literally always win it with every release.

No, but unfortunately there's a possibility that she will be nominated given her past with the Grammys.

Agreed. I can see Jill, Marsha, R. Kelly, and Raphael Saadiq being serious contenders. But you know for sure that they are gonna put Beyonce in there, but she is not completely deserving of it.

Jill Scott - The Light of the Sun

Marsha Ambrosius - Late Nights and Early Mornings

R. Kelly - Love Letter

Raphael Saadiq - Stone Rollin'

Other possible contenders:

Mint Condition - 7

Ledisi - Pieces of Me

Beyonce - 4

Kelly Rowland - Here I Am

Chris Brown - F.A.M.E.

Kem - Intimacy

Musiq - Magiqinthemusiq

Bootsy Collins - Tha Funk Capital of the World

Aretha Franklin - A Woman Falling Out of Love (Seriously doubt this one!)

Aloe Blacc - Good Things

silverchild said:

neonlights said:

No, but unfortunately there's a possibility that she will be nominated given her past with the Grammys.

Agreed. I can see Jill, Marsha, R. Kelly, and Raphael Saadiq being serious contenders. But you know for sure that they are gonna put Beyonce in there, but she is not completely deserving of it.

Jill Scott - The Light of the Sun

Marsha Ambrosius - Late Nights and Early Mornings

R. Kelly - Love Letter

Raphael Saadiq - Stone Rollin'

Other possible contenders:

Mint Condition - 7

Ledisi - Pieces of Me

Beyonce - 4

Kelly Rowland - Here I Am

Chris Brown - F.A.M.E.

Kem - Intimacy

Musiq - Magiqinthemusiq

Bootsy Collins - Tha Funk Capital of the World

Aretha Franklin - A Woman Falling Out of Love (Seriously doubt this one!)

Aloe Blacc - Good Things

ReeRee will be nominated for Best Traditional R&B Vocal Performance. That's the only category where she may be a contender nowadays.

Timmy84 said:

Musicslave said:

I doubt if he'll get as many as Adele (she's gonna be in every possible category) but he definitely deserves a few. Possibly, AOTY and Best Rap/Hip Hop Album.

I forgot: not too many rappers get ROTY/SOTY nods lol

So yeah, I definitely see AOTY, Best Rap Album, Best Rap Performance, blah blah blah. About five.

The AOTY award is definitely gonna be locked with Kanye, Adele and Tony...

Kanye is gonna be a top contender for more nominations than Adele, considering that two albums: My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy and Watch The Thorne were big albums and released under Kanye. Kanye is easily gonna be a top winner in the Rap/Hip-Hop category. They just need to give him the Grammy for Best Rap Album for MBDTF.

But Adele is gonna demolish all of the big categories easily (Album of the Year, Song of the Year and Record of the Year). I can see Kanye getting a nom for Record of the Year for "All of the Lights" or "Runaway."

silverchild said:

Timmy84 said:

I forgot: not too many rappers get ROTY/SOTY nods lol

So yeah, I definitely see AOTY, Best Rap Album, Best Rap Performance, blah blah blah. About five.

The AOTY award is definitely gonna be locked with Kanye, Adele and Tony...

Kanye is gonna be a top contender for more nominations than Adele, considering that two albums: My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy and Watch The Thorne were big albums and released under Kanye. Kanye is easily gonna be a top winner in the Rap/Hip-Hop category. They just need to give him the Grammy for Best Rap Album for MBDTF.

But Adele is gonna demolish all of the big categories easily (Album of the Year, Song of the Year and Record of the Year). I can see Kanye getting a nom for Record of the Year for "All of the Lights" or "Runaway."

Kanye and Jay may have a nod in the Best Rap Performance with Collabo category. Not sure about others but his stance is looking real good right now.

Timmy84 said:

silverchild said:

Agreed. I can see Jill, Marsha, R. Kelly, and Raphael Saadiq being serious contenders. But you know for sure that they are gonna put Beyonce in there, but she is not completely deserving of it.

Jill Scott - The Light of the Sun

Marsha Ambrosius - Late Nights and Early Mornings

R. Kelly - Love Letter

Raphael Saadiq - Stone Rollin'

Other possible contenders:

Mint Condition - 7

Ledisi - Pieces of Me

Beyonce - 4

Kelly Rowland - Here I Am

Chris Brown - F.A.M.E.

Kem - Intimacy

Musiq - Magiqinthemusiq

Bootsy Collins - Tha Funk Capital of the World

Aretha Franklin - A Woman Falling Out of Love (Seriously doubt this one!)

Aloe Blacc - Good Things

ReeRee will be nominated for Best Traditional R&B Vocal Performance. That's the only category where she may be a contender nowadays.

Yep. Even though I didn't hear or buy any of her new album. All I remember was the controversy it received. Aretha's voice was still there.

silverchild said:

Timmy84 said:

ReeRee will be nominated for Best Traditional R&B Vocal Performance. That's the only category where she may be a contender nowadays.

Yep. Even though I didn't hear or buy any of her new album. All I remember was the controversy it received. Aretha's voice was still there.

And that's probably the bottom line anyway.

Timmy84 said:

silverchild said:

The AOTY award is definitely gonna be locked with Kanye, Adele and Tony...

Kanye is gonna be a top contender for more nominations than Adele, considering that two albums: My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy and Watch The Thorne were big albums and released under Kanye. Kanye is easily gonna be a top winner in the Rap/Hip-Hop category. They just need to give him the Grammy for Best Rap Album for MBDTF.

But Adele is gonna demolish all of the big categories easily (Album of the Year, Song of the Year and Record of the Year). I can see Kanye getting a nom for Record of the Year for "All of the Lights" or "Runaway."

Kanye and Jay may have a nod in the Best Rap Performance with Collabo category. Not sure about others but his stance is looking real good right now.

Anything with Jay-Z on it is gonna be nominated in the Hip-Hop/Rap categories. Kanye is gonna have two albums in the Best Rap Album category...mark my word. One was mediocre (Watch the Throne), the other was a quality release (My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy). This is gonna be Kanye's year. I can see him getting at least 8-10 nominations (being one of the biggest nominees with the most noms), but walking away with probably 4. I'm just only interested in that tough race for Album of the Year right album now.

Does anyone think that Lady Gaga will get possible nods in the top categories (other than the pop and dance categories)? Not that I care though, but I'm wondering...

silverchild said:

Timmy84 said:

Kanye and Jay may have a nod in the Best Rap Performance with Collabo category. Not sure about others but his stance is looking real good right now.

Anything with Jay-Z on it is gonna be nominated in the Hip-Hop/Rap categories. Kanye is gonna have two albums in the Best Rap Album category...mark my word. One was mediocre (Watch the Throne), the other was a quality release (My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy). This is gonna be Kanye's year. I can see him getting at least 8-10 nominations (being one of the biggest nominees with the most noms), but walking away with probably 4. I'm just only interested in that tough race for Album of the Year right album now.

Does anyone think that Lady Gaga will get possible nods in the top categories (other than the pop and dance categories)? Not that I care though, but I'm wondering...

I honestly don't know. To be honest, the album doesn't really require an AOTY nod. And if any of the songs have a better chance of being nominated, it would be "Born This Way". I can't see them nominating "Judas" or "The Edge of Glory" or "You & I". Her nods will be interesting.