I'd say so.

We could talk about the greats all day [J Dilla, Pete Rock, DJ Premier, Dr. Dre, DJ Quik, Flying Lotus, RZA etc...]

But how the hell has this guy become so big off of the very little talent he has? He has a few classics [don't get me wrong], but damn, the guy's production is almost laughable imho....

Who else would you consider a horrible hip hop producer [or producer in general]....Lex Luger, Diddy?

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Soulja Boy is far worse.

Remember, Soulja started off as his own producer AND beatmaker. And his debut track Crank That (Soulja Boy) is THE definite example of shit-hop & rhythmless bullshit (r&b).

Four kids, four women, got Alicia, something's in his kool-aid.

i like swizz beatz i like what he did with dmx, the loxxs, eve,alicia keys and beyonce his beats r crazy to me. i wouldnt concider soulja boya producer but i give the kids his props he is out there trying to make his way and 4 what music is now i cant shit on him

UncleGrandpa said:

Four kids, four women, got Alicia, something's in his kool-aid.

He pictures me as a flighty person, when it comes to women, but that's my opinion.

I was going to comment about him and the lawsuit From Casio in 1999 about stealing beats from their equipment and claiming it as his own but with the help of search engines and comprehension, I found out that this was a rumor. There's noting really distinct about his style, Timbaland had a sound you recognize as did J Dilla, with the exception of Ruff Ryders Anthem there's nothing I like of his sound.

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no , that would be p doodie

I'm gonna have to say NO.

On To The Next One

Tambourine is my jam!

TonyVanDam said:

Soulja Boy is far worse.

Remember, Soulja started off as his own producer AND beatmaker. And his debut track Crank That (Soulja Boy) is THE definite example of shit-hop & rhythmless bullshit (r&b).

Co-mutha-funkin'-sign!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dude has 0 skillz.

Yet he somehow managed to sell a bunch of ringtones.

So class, what have we learned today?

You don't have to have talent to sell music.

What does that mean?

Charts don't equal talent.

Class dismissed.

im not familiar with j dilla, what are some of the hits he's produced?

lowkey said:

im not familiar with j dilla, what are some of the hits he's produced?

http://www.stonesthrow.co...iscography

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BlaqueKnight said:

lowkey said:

im not familiar with j dilla, what are some of the hits he's produced?

http://www.stonesthrow.co...iscography

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thanks, so he dont have any real mainstream hits.

lowkey said:

BlaqueKnight said:

http://www.stonesthrow.co...iscography

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thanks, so he dont have any real mainstream hits.

Here's more J Dilla Productions for you...There's tons of them on youtube....

BlaqueKnight said:

I'm gonna have to say NO.

he's no better or worse than Pharrell by himself. lol.

Mdizzles said:

he's no better or worse than Pharrell by himself. lol.

imho, Pharrell is better. How many Swizz Beatz track actually have melodies???

Tittypants said:

Mdizzles said:

he's no better or worse than Pharrell by himself. lol.

imho, Pharrell is better. How many Swizz Beatz track actually have melodies???

touche.

BlaqueKnight said:

TonyVanDam said:

Soulja Boy is far worse.

Remember, Soulja started off as his own producer AND beatmaker. And his debut track Crank That (Soulja Boy) is THE definite example of shit-hop & rhythmless bullshit (r&b).

Co-mutha-funkin'-sign!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dude has 0 skillz.

Yet he somehow managed to sell a bunch of ringtones.

So class, what have we learned today?

You don't have to have talent to sell music.

What does that mean?

Charts don't equal talent.

Class dismissed.

Exactly.

TonyVanDam said:

BlaqueKnight said:

Co-mutha-funkin'-sign!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dude has 0 skillz.

Yet he somehow managed to sell a bunch of ringtones.

So class, what have we learned today?

You don't have to have talent to sell music.

What does that mean?

Charts don't equal talent.

Class dismissed.

Exactly.

I can't front, I've never really been able to get through a whole Soulja Boy track to judge....

No Puffy post-Biggie/Mary J was. And he hardly produced Faith's albums anyway.

Timmy84 said:

No Puffy post-Biggie/Mary J was. And he hardly produced Faith's albums anyway.

I don't believe Puffy has ever truly produced any songs....

I've heard far too many stories about him getting credit for some of the dumbest stuff....

Tittypants said:

Timmy84 said:

No Puffy post-Biggie/Mary J was. And he hardly produced Faith's albums anyway.

I don't believe Puffy has ever truly produced any songs....

I've heard far too many stories about him getting credit for some of the dumbest stuff....

I noticed he did a lot of sampling. How much creativity can you gain from that? It worked, though.

angel345 said:

Tittypants said:

I don't believe Puffy has ever truly produced any songs....

I've heard far too many stories about him getting credit for some of the dumbest stuff....

I noticed he did a lot of sampling. How much creativity can you gain from that? It worked, though.

It's about how you sample, not if you sample

Puffy had a bunch of other producers doing the work that he got credit for...the way he "sampled" was pretty much the laziest form of sampling. That's why it's so hard to respect imho...

Tittypants said:

angel345 said:

I noticed he did a lot of sampling. How much creativity can you gain from that? It worked, though.

It's about how you sample, not if you sample

Puffy had a bunch of other producers doing the work that he got credit for...the way he "sampled" was pretty much the laziest form of sampling. That's why it's so hard to respect imho...

He don't deserve respect. In fact he hardly produced Mary's most famous albums.

Swizz is wack as fuck, minus a few joints here and there.

Dilla is so overrated as well. Championing his shit is an often used tactic to gain credibility within hiphop circles on the internet.

minneapolisFunq said:

Swizz is wack as fuck, minus a few joints here and there.

Dilla is so overrated as well. Championing his shit is an often used tactic to gain credibility within hiphop circles on the internet.

Funny you say that because I'm from Detroit & I've been a fan '98 ...[nearly met him too]

It's funny some clowns don't know how dope his flipping skill were, or where how so many other producer use drums he made, sampled & used first...

Tittypants said:

angel345 said:

I noticed he did a lot of sampling. How much creativity can you gain from that? It worked, though.

It's about how you sample, not if you sample

Puffy had a bunch of other producers doing the work that he got credit for...the way he "sampled" was pretty much the laziest form of sampling. That's why it's so hard to respect imho...

True, it's how you sample, and to my understanding, sampling is economical and live musicians are costly. That's why producers do this nowadays.

angel345 said:

Tittypants said:

It's about how you sample, not if you sample

Puffy had a bunch of other producers doing the work that he got credit for...the way he "sampled" was pretty much the laziest form of sampling. That's why it's so hard to respect imho...

True, it's how you sample, and to my understanding, sampling is economical and live musicians are costly. That's why producers do this nowadays.

But, all of the producers that are doing it these days are rich.