Timmy84 said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

PARTIALLY??? You just can't be serious!

lol

Not everybody from my generation has bad taste either. It's just the ignorant ones are getting the most press, that's all.

You are a lot like I was at your age, I appreciated music from all genres and from all eras. Personally, I would not lump you in with the rest of your generation, any more than I fit in with the consensus of mine.

Nevertheless, what I saw presented on the BET Hip Hop Awards just left me seriously shaking my damned head, like: "Are they serious?" I wouldn't even bother downloading that shit for FREE, lol. The most exciting or interesting thing about those performances was the lighting, the computerized LED screens, and the pyrotechnics. Aside from that, most of the performers looked like they had just gotten out of prison, or were on their way in. And I assume those who were not there to accept their awards probably WERE in prison (...of those who were not on tour, like Chris Brown - who probably SHOULD be in prison). But they nearly all sounded and looked like trash! I just felt sad that this was the look and sound that is being held up as an example to children coming up as something to aspire toward.

And WHY are they STILL wearing their jeans down off their ass?!? Hasn't that played out by now?!? Do they not see the irony of trying to act so tough while at the same time putting their barely covered booty on display ? I realize this is another generational issue, but this is where it was really refreshing to see LL Cool J, Busta Rhymes, Heavy D, and Ludacris, who at least wear clothing that fits, lol. Plus, I REALLY like what LL had to say as he accepted his award. Thank God that show at least featured some level of maturity, albeit minimal.

Those prerecorded "Cypher" segments were slightly more interesting though, and seemed to involve more skill and talent. They could have just run those as the show (along with Mike Epps silly ass, lol), but then it would have only lasted about 8 minutes. Because like Busta was saying: "I don't know how it is they determine who gets an award for what".

Anyway, to bring it back on topic (...although the discussion of the Hip Hop award show never strayed far since it featured Heavy D's last performance - RIP) - can't wait to hear what it was Heavy D was working on right before his death. Just a few weeks before he passed away (...and before any of us could know we were about to lose him) I was cleaning up my CD collection while trying to arrange them in a more coherent fashion. I came across Heavy's "Waterbed Hev" and "Peaceful Journey" CD's and remembered how he said at the time "...as long as people continue to listen to my music, I'll continue to make it". I remember thinking to myself at that time "Well Hev, I've never stopped listening, so where's the new music?". I really hate the way the music industry is set up, favoring the young, vulnerable, less talented "artists" over the seasoned veterans. I'm sure the industry probably wasn't exactly waiting with open arms for Heavy's next project (...although I bet they can't wait to make a dollar off of his death now!).

PDogz said:

Timmy84 said:

lol

Not everybody from my generation has bad taste either. It's just the ignorant ones are getting the most press, that's all.

You are a lot like I was at your age, I appreciated music from all genres and from all eras. Personally, I would not lump you in with the rest of your generation, any more than I fit in with the consensus of mine.

Nevertheless, what I saw presented on the BET Hip Hop Awards just left me seriously shaking my damned head, like: "Are they serious?" I wouldn't even bother downloading that shit for FREE, lol. The most exciting or interesting thing about those performances was the lighting, the computerized LED screens, and the pyrotechnics. Aside from that, most of the performers looked like they had just gotten out of prison, or were on their way in. And I assume those who were not there to accept their awards probably WERE in prison (...of those who were not on tour, like Chris Brown - who probably SHOULD be in prison). But they nearly all sounded and looked like trash! I just felt sad that this was the look and sound that is being held up as an example to children coming up as something to aspire toward.

And WHY are they STILL wearing their jeans down off their ass?!? Hasn't that played out by now?!? Do they not see the irony of trying to act so tough while at the same time putting their barely covered booty on display ? I realize this is another generational issue, but this is where it was really refreshing to see LL Cool J, Busta Rhymes, Heavy D, and Ludacris, who at least wear clothing that fits, lol. Plus, I REALLY like what LL had to say as he accepted his award. Thank God that show at least featured some level of maturity, albeit minimal.

Those prerecorded "Cypher" segments were slightly more interesting though, and seemed to involve more skill and talent. They could have just run those as the show (along with Mike Epps silly ass, lol), but then it would have only lasted about 8 minutes. Because like Busta was saying: "I don't know how it is they determine who gets an award for what".

Anyway, to bring it back on topic (...although the discussion of the Hip Hop award show never strayed far since it featured Heavy D's last performance - RIP) - can't wait to hear what it was Heavy D was working on right before his death. Just a few weeks before he passed away (...and before any of us could know we were about to lose him) I was cleaning up my CD collection while trying to arrange them in a more coherent fashion. I came across Heavy's "Waterbed Hev" and "Peaceful Journey" CD's and remembered how he said at the time "...as long as people continue to listen to my music, I'll continue to make it". I remember thinking to myself at that time "Well Hev, I've never stopped listening, so where's the new music?". I really hate the way the music industry is set up, favoring the young, vulnerable, less talented "artists" over the seasoned veterans. I'm sure the industry probably wasn't exactly waiting with open arms for Heavy's next project (...although I bet they can't wait to make a dollar off of his death now!).

i think heavy d released a album online tho? i think i read that in this thread during a bio of him

L4OATheOriginal said:

PDogz said:

You are a lot like I was at your age, I appreciated music from all genres and from all eras. Personally, I would not lump you in with the rest of your generation, any more than I fit in with the consensus of mine.

Nevertheless, what I saw presented on the BET Hip Hop Awards just left me seriously shaking my damned head, like: "Are they serious?" I wouldn't even bother downloading that shit for FREE, lol. The most exciting or interesting thing about those performances was the lighting, the computerized LED screens, and the pyrotechnics. Aside from that, most of the performers looked like they had just gotten out of prison, or were on their way in. And I assume those who were not there to accept their awards probably WERE in prison (...of those who were not on tour, like Chris Brown - who probably SHOULD be in prison). But they nearly all sounded and looked like trash! I just felt sad that this was the look and sound that is being held up as an example to children coming up as something to aspire toward.

And WHY are they STILL wearing their jeans down off their ass?!? Hasn't that played out by now?!? Do they not see the irony of trying to act so tough while at the same time putting their barely covered booty on display ? I realize this is another generational issue, but this is where it was really refreshing to see LL Cool J, Busta Rhymes, Heavy D, and Ludacris, who at least wear clothing that fits, lol. Plus, I REALLY like what LL had to say as he accepted his award. Thank God that show at least featured some level of maturity, albeit minimal.

Those prerecorded "Cypher" segments were slightly more interesting though, and seemed to involve more skill and talent. They could have just run those as the show (along with Mike Epps silly ass, lol), but then it would have only lasted about 8 minutes. Because like Busta was saying: "I don't know how it is they determine who gets an award for what".

Anyway, to bring it back on topic (...although the discussion of the Hip Hop award show never strayed far since it featured Heavy D's last performance - RIP) - can't wait to hear what it was Heavy D was working on right before his death. Just a few weeks before he passed away (...and before any of us could know we were about to lose him) I was cleaning up my CD collection while trying to arrange them in a more coherent fashion. I came across Heavy's "Waterbed Hev" and "Peaceful Journey" CD's and remembered how he said at the time "...as long as people continue to listen to my music, I'll continue to make it". I remember thinking to myself at that time "Well Hev, I've never stopped listening, so where's the new music?". I really hate the way the music industry is set up, favoring the young, vulnerable, less talented "artists" over the seasoned veterans. I'm sure the industry probably wasn't exactly waiting with open arms for Heavy's next project (...although I bet they can't wait to make a dollar off of his death now!).

i think heavy d released a album online tho? i think i read that in this thread during a bio of him

I remember hearing a few cuts released on his MySpace page years subsequent to the "Waterbed Hev" album, like "Long Distance Girlfriend". While I applaud the new direction he seemed to be going in, I really wasn't that crazy about the few songs that I heard at that time. Although, I won't assume that the few newer songs that I heard were going to be indicative of the entire body of new material he had in store to be released, I'd still like to hear it.

And I swear, every time I see a picture of him, I can't believe he's gone. He represented so much of our youthful culture (...despite the days of "In Living Color" being so long ago now). Also, judging by his appearance on the BET award show, looks like he had gained a significant amount of the weight back that he had lost a few years ago. I'm assuming that was probably a factor contributing to his death. I hope Fat Joe is smelling the coffee & reading the wall. He's another talented big dude that I'd hate for the world of entertainment to lose so early. You'd think Big Pun would have been enough of a wake-up call.

PDogz said:

Timmy84 said:

lol

Not everybody from my generation has bad taste either. It's just the ignorant ones are getting the most press, that's all.

You are a lot like I was at your age, I appreciated music from all genres and from all eras. Personally, I would not lump you in with the rest of your generation, any more than I fit in with the consensus of mine.

Nevertheless, what I saw presented on the BET Hip Hop Awards just left me seriously shaking my damned head, like: "Are they serious?" I wouldn't even bother downloading that shit for FREE, lol. The most exciting or interesting thing about those performances was the lighting, the computerized LED screens, and the pyrotechnics. Aside from that, most of the performers looked like they had just gotten out of prison, or were on their way in. And I assume those who were not there to accept their awards probably WERE in prison (...of those who were not on tour, like Chris Brown - who probably SHOULD be in prison). But they nearly all sounded and looked like trash! I just felt sad that this was the look and sound that is being held up as an example to children coming up as something to aspire toward.

And WHY are they STILL wearing their jeans down off their ass?!? Hasn't that played out by now?!? Do they not see the irony of trying to act so tough while at the same time putting their barely covered booty on display ? I realize this is another generational issue, but this is where it was really refreshing to see LL Cool J, Busta Rhymes, Heavy D, and Ludacris, who at least wear clothing that fits, lol. Plus, I REALLY like what LL had to say as he accepted his award. Thank God that show at least featured some level of maturity, albeit minimal.

Those prerecorded "Cypher" segments were slightly more interesting though, and seemed to involve more skill and talent. They could have just run those as the show (along with Mike Epps silly ass, lol), but then it would have only lasted about 8 minutes. Because like Busta was saying: "I don't know how it is they determine who gets an award for what".

Anyway, to bring it back on topic (...although the discussion of the Hip Hop award show never strayed far since it featured Heavy D's last performance - RIP) - can't wait to hear what it was Heavy D was working on right before his death. Just a few weeks before he passed away (...and before any of us could know we were about to lose him) I was cleaning up my CD collection while trying to arrange them in a more coherent fashion. I came across Heavy's "Waterbed Hev" and "Peaceful Journey" CD's and remembered how he said at the time "...as long as people continue to listen to my music, I'll continue to make it". I remember thinking to myself at that time "Well Hev, I've never stopped listening, so where's the new music?". I really hate the way the music industry is set up, favoring the young, vulnerable, less talented "artists" over the seasoned veterans. I'm sure the industry probably wasn't exactly waiting with open arms for Heavy's next project (...although I bet they can't wait to make a dollar off of his death now!).

I wonder too what he left behind for us.

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Oh Sh**************** No ....Damn ...Sh*t .....No .........F***K Me ....

Heavy D gone to soon brother ..... RIP..... just shocked busy not logged on to the org for weeks ...then bam....

Heart goes out to family and friends ..... Black Coffee! is the Jam!

here is my favorite Heavy D track-

http://www.youtube.com/wa...NvXoQFUqLA

[Edited 11/17/11 10:14am]

banks said:

Funeral Services for Heavy D to be Streamed Live at Remember HeavyD.com November 17, 2011 Leave a Comment Musical tributes will be performed by R&B stars Anthony Hamilton, Johnny Gill and gospel singers Yolanda Adams and Kim Burrell. 0*Because of high public interest, the funeral service on – Friday, November 18 at 11am – for rapper/actor/producer Heavy D will be streamed LIVE via the website www.RememberHeavyD.com Grace Baptist Church in Mt. Vernon, NY. Rapper/producer/actor Heavy D, best known as the “Overweight Lover”, died of complications from pneumonia at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center in Los Angeles, CA on Tuesday, November 8th 2011 according to Heavy D’s brother, Floyd Myers. He was 44. Rev. Dr. W. Franklyn Richardson, senior pastor of Grace Baptist Church, will officiate and deliver the eulogy, and words of greeting will be presented by Mount Vernon Mayor Clinton I. Young and Mount Vernon Mayor Elect Ernie Davis. Words of comfort will be presented by Rev. Al Sharpton and Rev. W. Darin Moore, pastor of Greater Centennial AMEZ Church; and words of tribute by Sean “Diddy” Combs. Musical tributes will be performed by R&B stars Anthony Hamilton, Johnny Gill and gospel singers Yolanda Adams and Kim Burrell.

Aww, did I miss it?

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

banks said:

Funeral Services for Heavy D to be Streamed Live at Remember HeavyD.com November 17, 2011 Leave a Comment Musical tributes will be performed by R&B stars Anthony Hamilton, Johnny Gill and gospel singers Yolanda Adams and Kim Burrell. 0*Because of high public interest, the funeral service on – Friday, November 18 at 11am – for rapper/actor/producer Heavy D will be streamed LIVE via the website www.RememberHeavyD.com Grace Baptist Church in Mt. Vernon, NY. Rapper/producer/actor Heavy D, best known as the “Overweight Lover”, died of complications from pneumonia at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center in Los Angeles, CA on Tuesday, November 8th 2011 according to Heavy D’s brother, Floyd Myers. He was 44. Rev. Dr. W. Franklyn Richardson, senior pastor of Grace Baptist Church, will officiate and deliver the eulogy, and words of greeting will be presented by Mount Vernon Mayor Clinton I. Young and Mount Vernon Mayor Elect Ernie Davis. Words of comfort will be presented by Rev. Al Sharpton and Rev. W. Darin Moore, pastor of Greater Centennial AMEZ Church; and words of tribute by Sean “Diddy” Combs. Musical tributes will be performed by R&B stars Anthony Hamilton, Johnny Gill and gospel singers Yolanda Adams and Kim Burrell.

Aww, did I miss it?

banks said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

Aww, did I miss it?

I think they started late it's 1:05pm here in nyc and i just saw Yolanda sing

I'm on the site but I don't see any video.

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

banks said:

I think they started late it's 1:05pm here in nyc and i just saw Yolanda sing

I'm on the site but I don't see any video.

nothing is coming up now... i thinks it's over

http://www.billboard.com/...4172.story

Heavy D Funeral Attracts Family, Stars & a Letter From Obama

by Mesfin Fekadu, AP | November 18, 2011 3:15 EST

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Hip-hop star Heavy D was remembered through laughter and tears at a funeral service Friday that included anecdotes from longtime friend Diddy and words of encouragement for his young daughter, delivered in a letter from President Barack Obama.

"We extend our heartfelt condolences at this difficult time. He will be remembered for his infectious optimism and many contributions to American music. Please know that you and your family will be in our thoughts and prayers," read the Obama note, according to the Rev. Al Sharpton, who quoted from it during the service.

Heavy D's Top 10 Billboard Hits | Photos: Heavy D and Friends

Xea Myers, Heavy D's 11-year-old daughter, told the audience that her father was "still here, not in the flesh, but in the spirit."

Heavy D, whose real name was Dwight Myers, was influential in the development of rap as it grew into phenomenon in the late 1980s and 1990s.

His hits included "Now That We've Found Love" and "Nuttin' But Love"; much of his music marked the "New Jack Swing" era in urban music, and he stood out from the pack with his rhymes, typified by a positive vibe and a lightheartedness that endeared him to so many.

Grace Baptist Church was so crowded that an overflow area was set up. Among those in attendance were Usher, Queen Latifah, Don King, Q-Tip, John Legend and Rosie Perez. A wake held on Thursday attracted famous friends including Chris Rock, Flavor Flav and Russell Simmons.

Heavy D died last week in Los Angeles at the age of 44. His family said the death was due to complications from pneumonia.

The self-proclaimed "Overweight Lover" was born in Jamaica but reared in Mount Vernon, where the service was held. He dubbed the city "Money Earnin' Mount Vernon," and it was also the home of Sean "Diddy" Combs.

Through jokes, Combs talked about how Heavy D helped give him his start in the music industry, and how their decades-long friendship continued until Heavy D's death.

Singer Johnny Gill was tearful, saying: "Just want to say to Heavy: Job well done." He later gave a powerful rendition the gospel hit "Never Would Have Made It."

President Obama wrote a letter of encouragement to the family and friends of the late rapper, which was read aloud by Rev. Al Sharpton:

“We extend our heartfelt condolences at this difficult time. He will be remembered for his infectious optimism and many contributions to American music. Please know that you and your family will be in our thoughts and prayers.” [Source]

My hometown of Mount Vernon, NY is only 4 by 4 square miles, but I'll be damned if Heavy D didn't put it on the map in a big way. And although Mount Vernon is up in Westchester County, between Yonkers and White Plains, it's like Heavy D made us the 6th Borough of New York City by dubbing us "Money Earnin' Mount Vernon". What a huge loss for the little town that could!

Is that Kid as one of the pallbearers?

I was luck to catch the VH1 Soul feature on Heavy D. last week.

On his own songs and when he performed as a guest on

R&B/New Jack Swing tunes he had very smooth flow

and interesting lyrics, usually friendly to young children's sensitivities.

He did a fantastic job on "Just Coolin" and the radio version of "Alright" by Janet Jackson

as well as "Self Destruction".

Definitely a treasure from that period in Rap and R&B.

He should easily be in the R&B or Soul Train Hall Fame

if that could exist.

DJK said:

I was luck to catch the VH1 Soul feature on Heavy D. last week.

On his own songs and when he performed as a guest on

R&B/New Jack Swing tunes he had very smooth flow

and interesting lyrics, usually friendly to young children's sensitivities.

He did a fantastic job on "Just Coolin" and the radio version of "Alright" by Janet Jackson

as well as "Self Destruction".

Definitely a treasure from that period in Rap and R&B.

He should easily be in the R&B or Soul Train Hall Fame

if that could exist.

He was one of the last remaining POSITIVE voices in the Rap/Hip-Hop genre. His music was always light-hearted, breezy, positive, and fun.

banks said:

Is that Jay-Z?

aardvark15 said:

banks said:

Is that Jay-Z?

Yeah, who else would it be?

So sad.. its nice that all those celebs came ...

smoothcriminal12 said:

aardvark15 said:

Is that Jay-Z?

Yeah, who else would it be?

I didn't think he would come

PDogz said:

My hometown of Mount Vernon, NY is only 4 by 4 square miles, but I'll be damned if Heavy D didn't put it on the map in a big way. And although Mount Vernon is up in Westchester County, between Yonkers and White Plains, it's like Heavy D made us the 6th Borough of New York City by dubbing us "Money Earnin' Mount Vernon". What a huge loss for the little town that could!

yo P i didn't know u were from Money Earning. I'm from the WP area nice 2 see another from the 914

Sean "Diddy" Combs pays tribute to hip hop star Heavy D during his funeral at Grace Baptist Church in Mount Vernon New York Friday, Nov. 18, 2011. Diddy talked about how Heavy D helped give him his start in the music industry, and how their decades-long friendship continued up until Heavy D's death. Heavy D, the rapper, producer and actor, died on Nov. 8, in Los Angeles.

The Rev. Al Sharpton, right, reads a letter from President Barack Obama to Xea Myers 11-year-old daughter of Dwight Errington Myers, later known as Heavy D, during his funeral at Grace Baptist Church in Mount Vernon, N.Y., Friday, Nov. 18, 2011.

Xea Myers, daughter of hip hop artist Heavy D, speaks during his funeral at Grace Baptist Church in Mount Vernon, N.Y., Friday, Nov. 18, 2011. Heavy D's real name was Dwight Myers.

[Edited 11/20/11 11:17am]

L4OATheOriginal said:

PDogz said:

My hometown of Mount Vernon, NY is only 4 by 4 square miles, but I'll be damned if Heavy D didn't put it on the map in a big way. And although Mount Vernon is up in Westchester County, between Yonkers and White Plains, it's like Heavy D made us the 6th Borough of New York City by dubbing us "Money Earnin' Mount Vernon". What a huge loss for the little town that could!

yo P i didn't know u were from Money Earning. I'm from the WP area nice 2 see another from the 914

Yup, grew up on Sandford Blvd. & 2nd Ave. Used to play in Brush Park & Memorial Field all the time. Went to Mt. Vernon High School, albeit between the years that Denzel & Heavy D attended. We used to go shopping in White Plains, when we weren't shopping on 4th Ave. in Mt. Vernon. As I remember it, White Plains had the first mall. It was called "The Mall", lol. It was such a new thing to be able to shop at so many stores indoors and all under the same roof, lol. And in the Summertime, it was all about PLAYLAND up in Rye. Got MAD LOVE for the 914.

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